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silver88
post Oct 6 2014, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 6 2014, 10:15 PM)
More or less, nowadays if spend over 3k has many choices.

for me on WW8000 is worth it.. cause in s'pore dun have it model, but they have WW9000 the price would be over kill.  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Because of many choices so hard to choose the correct one.....WM if lucky need stay with me for 10-15 year so need to choose the suit one......
For ww9000 really look cool but the function plus minus only with ww8000 and the price double really kill

Just worry about samsung stuff look nice but not long lasting......
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post Oct 7 2014, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 6 2014, 11:52 PM)
Because of many choices so hard to choose the correct one.....WM if lucky need stay with me for 10-15 year so need to choose the suit one......
For ww9000 really look cool but the function plus minus only with ww8000 and the price double really kill

Just worry about samsung stuff look nice but not long lasting......
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Don't worry too much on Kimchi's stuffs, these recent few years they are proven to make a big hole on your wallet thumbup.gif
If you are going to use it close to its limit all the time, Japanese brands still the better brand to consider.
Like in Middle East, during this summer season, I'm turning on the air cond 7/24. All the air conds over here are changed once every 3 years as beyond repair. But the Japs brand last longer, about 5 years. Because of pricing different and in Middle East they are following Jib Gor's concept : I help you, you help me. So the "cheapest" buying price always come first.
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post Oct 7 2014, 05:26 AM

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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 6 2014, 11:52 PM)
Because of many choices so hard to choose the correct one.....WM if lucky need stay with me for 10-15 year so need to choose the suit one......
For ww9000 really look cool but the function plus minus only with ww8000 and the price double really kill

Just worry about samsung stuff look nice but not long lasting......
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Ha ha you still have choice to purchase and the warranty is full cover in M'sia only, for my case once bring it to s'pore is consider zero warranty in sg, cause over there dun have it model on WW8000.

I am not sure in kl selling WW9000 what is the price tag, Samsung for WM, LED TV really last me another 5 yrs.

Long lasting also depend how you usage of the day.
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post Oct 7 2014, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 7 2014, 01:20 AM)
Don't worry too much on Kimchi's stuffs, these recent few years they are proven to make a big hole on your wallet thumbup.gif
If you are going to use it close to its limit all the time, Japanese brands still the better brand to consider.
Like in Middle East, during this summer season, I'm turning on the air cond 7/24. All the air conds over here are changed once every 3 years as beyond repair. But the Japs brand last longer, about 5 years. Because of pricing different and in Middle East they are following Jib Gor's concept : I help you, you help me. So the "cheapest" buying price always come first.
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Thanks for ur advise bro biggrin.gif
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post Oct 7 2014, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 7 2014, 05:26 AM)
Ha ha you still have choice to purchase and the warranty is full cover in M'sia only, for my case once bring it to s'pore is consider zero warranty in sg, cause over there dun have it model on WW8000.

I am not sure in kl selling WW9000 what is the price tag, Samsung for WM, LED TV really last me another 5 yrs.

Long lasting also depend how you usage of the day.
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Still can get warranty with ur ww8000. When spoil bring back to Johor for warranty tongue.gif
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post Oct 7 2014, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 7 2014, 08:10 AM)
Still can get warranty with ur ww8000. When spoil bring back to Johor for warranty tongue.gif
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So heavy lah.. Malaysia tax again that is not worth wow
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post Oct 7 2014, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 6 2014, 02:56 PM)
Bro Kimsim, beside the door problem, any others reason? Ecobubble or design look cool~~
Because now I comparing between samsung ww8000 and hitachi BD-W85TV .....ww8000 more noise then BD-W85TV

As samsung customer service reply for the dB:
With regards to your query, the noise level for the wash and spin cycles (WW12H8420EW) are 52 dB and 72 dB respectively.

For hitachi BD-W85TV :
Noise Level (dB: Wash)46
Noise Level (dB: Spin)67

Beside that, I still thinking about the Ecobubble wash cool for Samsung or hot water for Hitachi.......

Bro and sifu sifu here can give some suggestion?
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You won't regret a Hitachi Big Drum front loader. Clothes washing wise, it fills the tub with water first to rinse then the it fills water into the soap dispenser. The wash comes out softer and dryer (lesser residual moisture). The added bonus is tub clean program.

The spin even at 67dB is not even a muffled air plane whine. It's more like low pitch 'mmmm' kind of sound that's not noticeable unless you're within 6ft in front. One of my favourite use is when coming back from overseas and then doing 3 loads in 45 mins using 15min quick wash and then drying everything up. All done within 1 hour.

If you use hot wash 60-90deg yes it will consume more energy for water heating. Most of my washes are at 40 degrees. But if cold wash then it avoids that but at the cost of a longer wash cycle. The inverter motor is quite up to task.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Oct 7 2014, 09:59 AM
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post Oct 7 2014, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Oct 7 2014, 09:58 AM)
You won't regret a Hitachi Big Drum front loader. Clothes washing wise, it fills the tub with water first to rinse then the it fills water into the soap dispenser. The wash comes out softer and dryer (lesser residual moisture). The added bonus is tub clean program.

The spin even at 67dB is not even a muffled air plane whine. It's more like low pitch 'mmmm' kind of sound that's not noticeable unless you're within 6ft in front. One of my favourite use is when coming back from overseas and then doing 3 loads in 45 mins using 15min quick wash and then drying everything up. All done within 1 hour.

If you use hot wash 60-90deg yes it will consume more energy for water heating. Most of my washes are at 40 degrees. But if cold wash then it avoids that but at the cost of a longer wash cycle. The inverter motor is quite up to task.
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Softer are because of detergent and softener used whistling.gif
Nothing to do much with WM.
If want to compare, use the fastest spin speed to wash. When I using the Samsung FL and spin at 400rpm, it do softer but not dry. If spin at 1000rpm, it is dryer but not soft.
Detergent not properly removed during wash also resulting to softer laundry.
Now the Samsung FL spin at max speed are at 85dB, standing 10ft away, 1ft away reaching 90-95dB depending on load. Not to mention it dance every now and then when the load is >50%.
Someone here mentioned that it is more gentle as gravity force pull the laundry down, but this is wrong thinking. It drop at the wrong time causing the whole WM to dance.
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post Oct 7 2014, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 7 2014, 11:44 AM)
Softer are because of detergent and softener used whistling.gif
Nothing to do much with WM.
If want to compare, use the fastest spin speed to wash. When I using the Samsung FL and spin at 400rpm, it do softer but not dry. If spin at 1000rpm, it is dryer but not soft.
Detergent not properly removed during wash also resulting to softer laundry.
Now the Samsung FL spin at max speed are at 85dB, standing 10ft away, 1ft away reaching 90-95dB depending on load. Not to mention it dance every now and then when the load is >50%.
Someone here mentioned that it is more gentle as gravity force pull the laundry down, but this is wrong thinking. It drop at the wrong time causing the whole WM to dance.
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imbalance load bro?
most front load doesnt comes with load sensor....

always experience this when washing many jeans together where they tied themselves in the WM, so goes the dancing WM. bedsheet, towel even pillows does this too laugh.gif
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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 7 2014, 11:44 AM)
Softer are because of detergent and softener used whistling.gif
Nothing to do much with WM.
If want to compare, use the fastest spin speed to wash. When I using the Samsung FL and spin at 400rpm, it do softer but not dry. If spin at 1000rpm, it is dryer but not soft.
Detergent not properly removed during wash also resulting to softer laundry.
Now the Samsung FL spin at max speed are at 85dB, standing 10ft away, 1ft away reaching 90-95dB depending on load. Not to mention it dance every now and then when the load is >50%.
Someone here mentioned that it is more gentle as gravity force pull the laundry down, but this is wrong thinking. It drop at the wrong time causing the whole WM to dance.
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Same detergent used on old and new. I notice the difference bro. And spun at 1400rpm. Drier and softer.
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post Oct 7 2014, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Oct 7 2014, 11:46 AM)
imbalance load bro?
most front load doesnt comes with load sensor....

always experience this when washing many jeans together where they tied themselves in the WM, so goes the dancing WM. bedsheet, towel even pillows does this too  laugh.gif
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Yup, that's right, front loader fails on heavy load washing. That's why we can send this company provided WM within 2 years to trash.
Washing normal T-shirt is ok. Put some jeans, bed sheet means we will go out for dinner first. Because it is too noisy and very irritating when it start jumping.
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post Oct 7 2014, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 7 2014, 11:53 AM)
Yup, that's right, front loader fails on heavy load washing. That's why we can send this company provided WM within 2 years to trash.
Washing normal T-shirt is ok. Put some jeans, bed sheet means we will go out for dinner first. Because it is too noisy and very irritating when it start jumping.
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TRUE STORY BRO.

first time wash small pillow. got shocked and straight pull plug. lol doh.gif doh.gif
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post Oct 7 2014, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Oct 7 2014, 11:46 AM)
imbalance load bro?
most front load doesnt comes with load sensor....

always experience this when washing many jeans together where they tied themselves in the WM, so goes the dancing WM. bedsheet, towel even pillows does this too  laugh.gif
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I had experience that with my older FL washer. what i tend to notice was the floor tiles used also. I made sure that it was non-slip and the chances of it happening [as in fl wm walking] was less when the machine was new but more evident after 4 years old. This is a known issue back then and that's why VRT and 4-ply load balancer on Samsung and Hitachi lessen that chances also. LG and Pana has their own innovation. So there's a strong chance that any FL washer manufactured after 2010 should have this feature built-in.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Oct 7 2014, 12:04 PM
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post Oct 7 2014, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Oct 7 2014, 11:57 AM)
TRUE STORY BRO.

first time wash small pillow. got shocked and straight pull plug. lol  doh.gif  doh.gif
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That's why I won't buy any FL for home usage. Cannot wash heavy load but have to pay premium price for it doh.gif
Is like buying a high end Lexus sedan and using it on desert. End up you need to push the car out from sand whistling.gif
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post Oct 8 2014, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 7 2014, 12:11 PM)
That's why I won't buy any FL for home usage. Cannot wash heavy load but have to pay premium price for it doh.gif
Is like buying a high end Lexus sedan and using it on desert. End up you need to push the car out from sand whistling.gif
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Personally, I still prefer FL tho... contradict right, yet FL do wash better. and uses less water.
So, i would not jam pack the washer laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Oct 8 2014, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Oct 8 2014, 01:20 AM)
Personally, I still prefer FL tho... contradict right, yet FL do wash better. and uses less water.
So, i would not jam pack the washer  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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For me, I buy something that should be fit for purpose, else I won't buy.
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post Oct 8 2014, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 8 2014, 01:22 AM)
For me, I buy something that should be fit for purpose, else I won't buy.
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Somehow my purpose is to wash nicely, and save water. laugh.gif
Just being logic, dont wash all heavy denim once is just a new laundry practice. That's it.
The benefits out weight the bads, IMO.

Just my two cents rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Oct 8 2014, 07:07 AM)
Somehow my purpose is to wash nicely, and save water.  laugh.gif
Just being logic, dont wash all heavy denim once is just a new laundry practice. That's it.
The benefits out weight the bads, IMO.

Just my two cents  rclxms.gif
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For me would be buy bigger capacity and wash slightly half size to save up over usage n running life.
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post Oct 8 2014, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 8 2014, 07:30 AM)
For me would be buy bigger capacity and wash slightly half size to save up over usage n running life.
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Used to think like that, yet in the end the SA tell me buy a normal sized one, so it's cheaper, yet run it more often.
Used to run WM every two days, now run everyday.
Still save on water usage tho drool.gif
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post Oct 8 2014, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Oct 8 2014, 07:07 AM)
Somehow my purpose is to wash nicely, and save water.  laugh.gif
Just being logic, dont wash all heavy denim once is just a new laundry practice. That's it.
The benefits out weight the bads, IMO.

Just my two cents  rclxms.gif
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I won't let a worker control what I like to do.

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