Samsung 6.5kg.

How much the front loader you bought? I know sometimes you like to take higher end front loader to compare to an old school top loader, just to show how superior your front loader are.
But I know how to survey also, a rm3+++ electrolux(8KG) using about 7l per KG, which a rm14++ Panasonic(13KG) also doing the same.

There really isn't a need to get personal here. The front loading washer isn't working for you,supersound, but it's working for kimsim. No one's strictly wrong or right. There are clear differences between the two types and they serve different needs for different individuals living in different environments.

This post has been edited by OneMoreDay: Oct 6 2014, 01:06 AM

Not lah.. I am compared it model top loaded, I dun think will be cheaper than front loaded.

1st why I will invest for top loaded?
Top loaded mostly is lady owner cause she is fully control of the day, put a cloths and put detergent then completed washed n follow by unloaded cloths for put out side cloths racks.

Bigger door was easier for them right?
Actually I'm a bit regretted after replace my 4 old samsung 7kg top loaded, the design is prefect to us n just a bit smaller size only, so after replaced with electrolux we can't find that will be too good than samsung design and even filter tray like samsung is used micro net on stainless steel filter for collected all those micro dust and unlike electrolux still used normal filter for center inlet filter.

Why bought a front loaded n still got my electrolux for our reason was in singapore water price can be more an expansive than electric bill n then that is the best choice for samsung again.



This post has been edited by kimsim: Oct 6 2014, 05:54 AM

Because he is misleading people over here. So need to clear this. Now a decent top loader can safe more water and clean better than front loader.
Difference between me and him is I'm providing objective numbers while he is providing subjective view.

No problem, difference people has difference usage.. for your cloths n depend how much do you budget to buy a better WM front loader or Top loader, from experience of usage front loader had 100% satisfied an over top loader.

just imaging the heavy cloths after mixed with water and carry up see how heavy of it.. if rotating in front loaded then the cloths can be turned 360 degree to washed internal side and unlike top loaded just at bottom side only.

This post has been edited by kimsim: Oct 6 2014, 02:23 PM

Yup agreed with kimsim. All them wet clothes plus water bearing down on the drive system - not very efficient.
Front loaders uses gravity - FOC

Top loaders got two kinds nowadays - the normal ones with the agitator in the middle and high efficiency ones. The normal ones uses 3 times more water than front loaders. Those HE top loaders uses less water and works pretty much the same way as Front loaders. It also needs low suds washing detergent like the Front loaders. You probably have to pay more for this "new technology" which front loaders has been enjoying all these time. Also you have to evenly distribute your clothes around the drum/basket.

One more thing, does the newer top loaders have hot water? Front loaders do.

Anyway, I'm in the front loader camp. Less wear and tear on the clothes, less water, more dry, washes more cleanly. If your only arguement is that top loaders cost less, then you win lor....

ha ha my working long pant, mostly has left some tissue paper inside of my pant wallet.. if previous using top loaded then died already kena scold for my wife.. the tissue paper chip become smaller pieces and sticks whole WM and mixed with other cloths else.. after used front loader has not an issue the tissue paper become stick inside my wallet and still whole piece and never broken at all..

technology wise front loaded was win...

This post has been edited by kimsim: Oct 6 2014, 02:55 PM

Bro Kimsim, beside the door problem, any others reason? Ecobubble or design look cool~~
Because now I comparing between samsung ww8000 and hitachi BD-W85TV .....ww8000 more noise then BD-W85TV

As samsung customer service reply for the dB:
With regards to your query, the noise level for the wash and spin cycles (WW12H8420EW) are 52 dB and 72 dB respectively.

For hitachi BD-W85TV :
Noise Level (dB: Wash)46
Noise Level (dB: Spin)67

Beside that, I still thinking about the Ecobubble wash cool for Samsung or hot water for Hitachi.......

Bro and sifu sifu here can give some suggestion?
Thanks

All WM when used > 2 years will be noisier especially everyday high load.

Now I understand why I need to wash my laundry twice if using quickwash and once if using other option that need 2 hours, because it is not efficient at all, thanks to enlighten me on this

Not sure hitachi how good of it..

Ecobubble can save more water n much cleaner.

noise wise :
wash = quiet
input water = a bit noisy
drain out discharge = noisy from water pump
spin = very quiet cause built-in VRT-Plus for vibration n reduction

You welcome...

Front loader quick wash, is not a full fledged wash cycle. On my Panasonic there is a rapid 15 min wash for 2kg of clothes only (Although the machine is rated for 10kg) and the quick 50 mins wash cycle is for 5kg of clothes only. Different cycle has different capacity, you need to read the manual of your washing machine to understand.

So far we have had nothing but front loaders, and never had much issue with them. The 1st machine own by my parents lasted for about 15 years before the bearing died, and their replacement machine lasted for 11 years when the mechanical timer died and the motor was starting to seize up (this machine was well abused throughout its lifespan as we mostly overloaded it than its rated capacity of 5.5kg) and finally I purchased the Panasonic to replace the last front loader.

The Panasonic and Hitachi were among the first to come out with large diameter opening front loaders, for easier loading and unloading of clothes and this machine definitely cleaned better than the previous two machines we had.

Top loaders do finish the laundry cycles faster, but at the same time they can be very rough and not necessarily clean. Water savings was not the only reason I got a front loader but due to the availability of hot water wash as well, which comes in handy when you want to wash bath / tea towels in hot water.

I am comparing the wash cycle to my brother's Electrolux top loader (which is not all that fast either and has clunky noises while operating) and also a Sharp (very fast wash cycles but tangles up clothes and makes it difficult to unload, damages undergarments due to overstretched while washing) top loader which I used while I was renting.

Early Samsung front loading machine were problematic, not sure if they still are though but so far I am happy with the Panasonic FL. Buying a front loading machine just for the sake of saving water is not a valid reason but in the long run it saves me from buying new clothes very so often, and inverter motor in top loading / front loading machines makes a very big difference in the washing ability of the machine.

Yup, maybe, but for this 4 months of using front loader on the various functions and timing the water usage, this Samsung 6.5KG that only wash half load is using way more than my old school 10KG Hitachi 10KG when on full load after average out. Samsung using about 120l of water for 2KG wash since I need to wash it twice using quick wash, while my Hitachi uses about 240l of water for 8KG wash. So 1KG = 30l of water while Samsung 1KG = 60l of water.
BTW, this Samsung also generate tissue debris when using quick wash, unlike someone mention it never.

I see.....for spin, Hitachi is using Direct Drive so shall not cause much noice....
For Hitachi max just 8.5kg but samsung WW8000 is 12kg
For price hitachi W85TV is around RM2800 and samsung WW8000 is around RM3500.....hard to choose

Wanna ask bro kimsim, for WW8000 can use hot water for washing? or only cool water available?

Samsung can used hot water up to 40 degree, Ecobubble for cold water and the result was like used hot water, the idea was save more electric.

Samsung also direct drive design and less vibration and noise.

Get WW8000 you never regret, big door and the door hinge was used stainless steel and used cold water for power saving the result is better than used hot water only.

But also depend your budget lah.

Spin noise


This post has been edited by kimsim: Oct 6 2014, 05:47 PM

I find anywhere in web but cannot find anything about Samsung WM is Direct Drive.....just find that is Digital Inverter Motor with low noise only.....
For the VRT plus, I saw a video mention about the VRT is something control/reduce the vibration while spin.

For the budget problem, I just worry spend that much but no worth it only......maybe can spend less a bit and get something almost same or better....

More or less, nowadays if spend over 3k has many choices.

for me on WW8000 is worth it.. cause in s'pore dun have it model, but they have WW9000 the price would be over kill.

Wow new Samsung condenser dryer, will be in my wishlist.
http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/home-ap.../DV80H4200CW/SP