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andrekua2
post Nov 8 2022, 03:28 PM

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Guys,

What's the energy usage like for say 500L fridge? Was considering whether or not I should change mine. My current one from more than 10 years ago using about 3kwh per day.
andrekua2
post Nov 8 2022, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 8 2022, 07:08 PM)
maybe can take a look at electrical store, find the model that you looking for and see if they have the ST star rating sticker. It will have the annual consumption figure there. Do your own maths using that
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I'm trying to buy online. I can't find the figures on manufacturer website. I'm thinking to get a rough estimates to see whether it's worth getting a fridge.
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post Nov 8 2022, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 8 2022, 10:38 PM)
Can still survey in store first before buying online mah

Anyway few days ago I went and see a 465L Panasonic bottom freezer fridge. Its rated 4 stars and the consumption according to the label is average 407 kwh per year. Top freezer model should be more efficient

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Thanks bro... That should be sufficient. I guess I'm well over since I think my current fridge will go over 100kwh per month. Better dump it.
andrekua2
post Nov 9 2022, 04:01 PM

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Went to JH Home today to survey fridge since it;s nearby. Apparently side-by-side fridge dont have energy rating. I guess I have to monitor my mom's fridge to see if it's worth it.

Surprisingly a Hitachi 565L 2 door top freezer rated at 340kWh annually. To think that my old fridge is doing 4kWh per day is absurd. Also managed to peek at aircond and get a nasty surprise. A R410a inverter ac energy rating almost double the power of a R32 inverter ac. No wonder my son room Samsung windfree only recorded usage between 1.7-2.3kWh per day while my old Samsung triangle inverter record at least 5-6kWh.

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post Nov 10 2022, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 10 2022, 06:20 PM)
Should have heeded your advice and avoid Samseng products like a plague.
Samsung products dont last, my Samsung RT21 fridge's freezer just gave problem after only 2 years, repaired yesterday n it costed rm400. My previous Mitsubishi & LG very lasting. Had bad experience with Samsung products 1st washing machine, then aircon, all didnt last. Bought the fridge cos like the features and size but really regret.
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My Samsung triangle from 10 8 years ago still works...

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post Nov 10 2022, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Nov 10 2022, 07:41 PM)
Inverter or non inverter?
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Inverter

Update:
Recalculated.. perhaps not 10 years but around 8

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andrekua2
post Nov 12 2022, 11:59 PM

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Well, I went against the flow and ordered a Hisense RQ568N4AWU from Onking for RM2,399. Their shop wont match the price offered online saying different department. My cousin intro me Haier IM525 but cost RM3k. I'm gonna give it a try and see how it fares after a couple of years. I dont cook much thus only using it to store cakes, drinks, milk, ice-cream and also nuggets etc.

Anyway, fridges looks almost the same across the board, it's hard to choose. I did shortlist a few namely Sharp and Hitachi 4 doors, both also around RM3k (Sharp got offer price since SIL work there). Was interested with the Hitachi because my mom 4 doors from 7 or 8 years ago still working fine and consume just 2.5kwh/day but saw a fella posted this freezer (I shortlisted) have ice buildup so gave up. Sharp also taken over by Foxconn.

I also tried to google about different compressor and found out that Hitachi already transfer their compressor factory in Thai to Midea in 2020 while Panasonic closed down its compressor factory in Singapore and now makes them in Melaka. I think judging from the similarities with all these fridge, chances are many of them are OEM now.

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post Nov 14 2022, 06:08 PM

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Onking is really fast, received my fridge.

Just powered on after 4hours wait (delivery guy told me 2hours). I'm so glad to find the power consumption is much better than my old fridge. Old fridge at 170-200w, now just at half before inverter even kicked in.

Remove the graph while waiting for power draw curve to stabilize. Maxing out at 150w. Probably cooling just started.

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post Nov 14 2022, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Nov 14 2022, 07:37 PM)
Wow. You really monitor the power consumption.
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I just happened to have the meter changed last week. The old one (black) already 35 years so I would say it is inaccurate. I also had a couple Tapo P110 with energy monitoring. The old one just sap too much (4.5Kwh daily) which prompt me to purchase a new one after measuring my mom 8 years old inverter fridge using just 2.7kwh daily.
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post Nov 15 2022, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Nov 14 2022, 09:22 PM)
Wow! Nice find...
Imagine old people, haizz. Can use ma then continue use lo.
Just like air conditioner. Still can use then continue use lo.
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I think the fridge finally cool down. Kinda satisfied with the power draw. It has been a miserable week without fridge.

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post Nov 26 2022, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(nanan75 @ Nov 26 2022, 06:23 PM)
What hardware and app you use to monitor these consumption?
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Tapo P110

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post Nov 26 2022, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(dudester @ Nov 17 2022, 10:53 AM)
Anyone using Hisense multi door big fridge? Are they as good as the traditional Japanese brands like panasonic, hitachi, sharp in terms of reliability and energy efficiency?
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Just bought a RQ568 4 doors for RM2,399 during 11.11 sales.

I only used it for ice cream, cakes, drinks, steamboat cold ingredients, milk etc.

Energy consumption is pretty good. Daily about 1.2-1.4kwh.

My mom is using a 8 years old hitachi 4 doors and I also did a check on her fridge (not sure the series, probably 700l or so). Her fridge used 1.7kwh per day and her fridge get open more frequent because she cooks.

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post Nov 26 2022, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Nov 18 2022, 12:29 AM)
Inverter (for motors) Hitachi and Pana also sell (for commercial/industrial use).
Rest don't make inverter in their respective group.
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You sure Hitachi still make fridge compressor?

https://www.coolingpost.com/world-news/hita...iness-to-midea/

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post Nov 29 2022, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(dudester @ Nov 29 2022, 11:17 AM)
Thanks. Are you using a smart adapter for consumption monitoring?
I ended up with a Panasonic....
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post Dec 16 2022, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Max @ Dec 8 2022, 10:44 PM)
At 1st looking for big fridge top (freezer)/ bottom.
But after some physical survey, side by side feels more 'premium'.
And budget also increase abit.. but feels more 'puas hati' with the side by side.
Btw, side by side, the freezer smaller in width, but u get more spaces vertically and much better organizing stuff.
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I think SBS easier to find things. I also bought french door, and coming from conventional 2doors, man, it does feel annoying when you kinda have to switch between left and right door. So you need to place things on either left or right side for easier access. Worse is when you placed them in the center and you kinda had to open the door wider in order to reach it.
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post Dec 16 2022, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Dec 16 2022, 02:31 PM)
Other brands like Hitachi or Sharp are OK.
Just dun get Samsung or Toshiba can already.
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Aiya, still discriminate based on country ah...come on la... Even iPhone is made in China.

Why is it that you're okay with Sharp (bought by Foxconn) but not okay with Toshiba (bought over by Midea)?
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post Dec 16 2022, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Dec 16 2022, 03:01 PM)
Dun ask me. ceo684 also approve Toshiba also bad.
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Well, I dont actually hate these "Japanese" brands but I think the premium for these brands are not worthy sometimes. Unless you can find them during warehouse sale for much much cheaper, otherwise I would rather buy a heavily discounted China branded appliances and replaced them in 4-5 years time (since some brands actually came with 3 years warranty compared to 1 year for Japanese branded) instead of relying on the reputation of Japanese engineered products and hope they last a decade.
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post Dec 16 2022, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Angry Clerk @ Dec 16 2022, 03:18 PM)
Thank you all, so far anyone got good/bad experience with LG fridge?

definitely won't get Samsung because my friend dad's (not in contact anymore) is operating a repair shop for fridge... his empty land always filled with Samsung 😂😂😂
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Which means people are not willing to repair them???? Or his dad lacked the know-how or parts to fixed these electronics filled fridges?

Recently I was given an old Elba fridge that was not working. So I google and pinpoint the fault down to the compressor with a faulty relay. Strange thing is the Elba fridge had a LG compressor. When I went to parts shop, they told me parts for LG need to quote and waiting time could take up to a month. After some thinking, went to nearby service center for Elba brand and they blasted me for saying it has a LG compressor and it was impossible. Finally managed to locate another parts shop and found a compatible relay for just RM9. Took the chance and got the fridge working again.


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post Dec 16 2022, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(noobfm @ Dec 16 2022, 04:19 PM)
that's too bad, wish my voucher was on dadada platform lol console.gif
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Well, if there is one thing I disliked about buying from shopee and lazada is the delivery fees. Only very few of them offer free shipping.


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post Dec 16 2022, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(bestgiler @ Dec 16 2022, 04:10 PM)
Got this last October at dadada. Same shop at ShitPee sell with RM300-500 higher price. 4 star inverter.
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This price can buy a 700L Sharp french door at Onking year end sale (that I just went to) with some change for groceries. French door dont have star rating but judging from my mom and my fridge, I would say it's comparable.

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