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ozak
post Feb 18 2014, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Quanta @ Feb 18 2014, 08:35 AM)
Hi @Ozak

I found out that the fridge information is not accurate. Like mine, I do have kill-a-watt meter to measure, the reading on the meter when the fridge compressor is running is 130-136 Watt, where else the sticker is stating 140-170 watt (1.4 Ampere). Since the compressor is not running all the time, it hard to average the fridge consumption per day by using the sticker information.

As for mine, I do found out that per day, the average consumption of my refrigerator is about 2.0-2.2 kWh. I think it is quite huge amount for 291 litre fridge.
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It is something like general information. But at least there is a information for us to know. The only way to check accurate consumption is like what you do. Use a kill a watt meter. As you know each household have his own habit to use fridge. So no way the manufacturing can measure it.

Another about accurate guide is those fridge really save, have 5star rating and state annual consumption. But it still subject to some standard guideline testing. That maybe very much different from your pattern of using.

I guess your fridge at least over 10yrs. It is quite high consumption per liter. The only way you can do is change. It is an old mechanism problem. Just like my 1. Over 16yrs, 292liter. Check with kill a watt meter - 13kwh/day, 56.6kwh/mth, RM1.86/day. sweat.gif

I m looking for a new fridge now. smile.gif
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post Feb 18 2014, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Quanta @ Feb 18 2014, 09:13 AM)
Hi @Ozak

Surprisingly, my fridge is just merely 6 yrs  ... just realize it recently when I monitor the TNB meter where it consume 8 units on 3 days with no ppl at home.

Anyway I also looking for inverter fridge and this link has some useful information on inverter fridge consumption
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1950729

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Than you have to look for a way to cut down the consumption. Check what wrong first. If you don't find the problem, a good new fridge won't save you either.

Thanks for the link.
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post Feb 18 2014, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 18 2014, 09:22 AM)
I know inverter air cond can cut electricity by 40% if you know how to use them. What about inverter fridge?
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It is same principal and usage as aircon. But the saving amount is vary but still there.

I m looking for inverter fridge too. And I lock down the choice criteria must be inverter. Nothing else. I m welcome any new technology that improve. Others consider is, size, type of seal, type of door, compartment arrangement and consumption per liter.
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post Feb 18 2014, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 18 2014, 10:10 AM)
Let's say a 700 liter fridge. How much in approx Ringgit term can be expect from inverter fridge?

For example, I think for a 13,000 BTU air cond for night use, it will reduce bill from RM100 to RM60.
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I really don't no. As you know, fridge actual consumption only can be measure by actual usage. My habit of usage is different from your habit usage too. Unless somebody have a experience to tell.

Take Quanta fridge consumption as an example. His usage is 2.2kwh for a 291liter. If he want to get a new fridge, he either get a fridge same liter but less than 2.2kwh consumption. Or same consumption but bigger than 291liter. From here you can see he have a guideline what fridge to looking at.

I recently went to HN at check some fridge spec. Some new technology inverter fridge have very low consumption per liter. I m eyeing on this fridge. brows.gif
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post Feb 18 2014, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(Quanta @ Feb 18 2014, 10:35 AM)
I have done that, check for leakage at the sealer, clean the compressor for dust .. still very heavy consumption
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Would it be the high usage? 1 day open/close many time? Can you hear the compressor running frequently? The freezer side have thick ice or dry cool? Draining water always? Setting freezer and fridge too high?
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post Feb 18 2014, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Quanta @ Feb 18 2014, 10:51 AM)
what puzzling me is that during CNY, the fridge itself consumed 8 units for 3 days when there were no ppl at home and no other electrical was on. Yes the compressor is kicking in quite frequenltly. Freezer side has no frost build up, water seems not much on the tray, freezer is set at 1.5 (total is 3 levels) and the fridge is set at Medium.
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Maybe got ghost. shocking.gif

You can try to isolated the problem. Plug your fridge to another wall socket. If same problem, than the fridge side is something wrong.

Set all the dial to minimum. Check with the kill a watt meter. Compare the low/medium setting consumption. Since no frost in the freezer side, that mean the seal is ok.

The drainage tray usually don't have water. It is only for defrost usage. I never see any water in the tray for whole yrs or many yrs.
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QUOTE(Galaxy Angel @ Feb 18 2014, 11:16 AM)
Hi Ozak:

Don't know what is the capacity you looking at, you can have a look this new BIG 2 Inverter Series from Hitachi.

http://hitachiconsumer.com.my/index.php/re...tor#product_298

http://hitachiconsumer.com.my/files/pdf/Re...g2_20140120.pdf

If you interested, can introduce you to my friend who is selling this.
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Thanks. The capacity is depend on my wife. Buy usually they want big 1. Give them house size fridge also not enough. biggrin.gif Throw all the rubbish inside.

My idea fridge is French door, compact yet big capacity, Multi compartment, save energy the most.

Hitachi is 1 of the best. Eying at the multi compartment type. sweat.gif
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post Feb 18 2014, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 18 2014, 11:26 AM)
I have a 700 liter and it says 1.2Amp. Or was it 600? Couldn't remember
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1.2amp with 700liter is already very good saving fridge. So what consumption perday?

Some new fridge can go as low as 0.8amp for 700liter. thumbup.gif
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post Feb 18 2014, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Galaxy Angel @ Feb 18 2014, 11:51 AM)
Welcome.  smile.gif
Just to share, if electrical usage or energy is the first concern when buying the fridge, than should go for 2 door series, French door or those fridge side by side definitely will consume more electric compare to normal 2 door fridge. Nowadays 2 doors fridge already have a model which can up to 600L or 700L net capacity.
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Not really 2door series is consume less. If it smaller capacity, it can be consume less. But not big capacity.

I found out the logic that big capacity with 2 door will consume more even if it state there save. For 2 door big capacity, the opening door is very big. Cool air is heavy. It will lost very fast everytime you open the door. So it doesn't save in the way of usage. If it separate out into smaller door like French door and multi compartment, you only open the door that you need. That less cool air travel out and loss. Big door require bigger front space to open too.

Side by side door fridge is a waste space fridge for me. The middle separate is add up the total wide size. It end up, the fridge look wide from the outside, but thin and long inside. Even it state 700l or 600l, but it doesn't look have big compartment inside. Not sure you can place a big birthday cake or a cooking ware inside.


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post Feb 18 2014, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 18 2014, 12:52 PM)
You sure about that?
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Tell me more. notworthy.gif
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post Feb 18 2014, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Quanta @ Feb 18 2014, 01:10 PM)
yeah maybe there is a ghost at my house using up the electricity to manifest ... and the ghost is a non-inverter ghost .. lol
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What fridge having in your mind now?
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post Feb 18 2014, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Feb 18 2014, 05:25 PM)
go see sharp's fridge, big enough space.
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See sharp fridge for what? I need more information what he find that probably disagree about side by side fridge.

Don't want so big lah. Wife like only. I don't like.
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post Feb 20 2014, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(Quanta @ Feb 20 2014, 08:13 AM)
Is this Samsung joking? What farking reason is that?

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YOUR REFRIGERATORS SUCK!!!! Never buy a samsung refrigerator!!!! after 7 months it started having problems and now they wont back the warranty because it was a floor model. Tell everyone you know!!! Their customer service blows. thanks for nothing justin from samsung customer servicE.YOUR A HORRIBLE COMPANY THAT DOES NOT BACK YOUR WARRANTY ON A BADLY DESIGNED REFRIGERATOR!!!!!!
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post Feb 20 2014, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Quanta @ Feb 20 2014, 08:19 AM)
Hitachi refrigerator feedback  (hot at one side)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2299889/all
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Should I avoid that model? Or the Hitachi brand?


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post Feb 20 2014, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Feb 20 2014, 09:34 AM)
My Hitachi fridge also loud sound, like boosting machine like that when pick up.
even can hear from far away.
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Is this normal? Have you check with the SC?

Or maybe your house still empty that the surrounding wall echo the noise louder.
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Quanta @ Feb 20 2014, 09:36 AM)
Hi sovietmah, which model are you using? Do you fee the side of the fridge is warm/hot?
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Side and top of the fridge hot is normal. It is because the condenser now is built into the fridge body. Have you notice that very old fridge have a black coil like mess behind? And the new fridge no more this. That is the condenser. Same function as the aircon outside unit. Dissipate heat.
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Quanta @ Feb 20 2014, 10:03 AM)
Hi Ozak

From the previous thread, the user claim the below. That's scare me
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Heat from below? hmm.gif

Below is a drainage pan for most of the fridge. And behind below is the compressor which certainly have heat. Don't use hand to touch the compressor. It run very hot.
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Quanta @ Feb 20 2014, 10:25 AM)
If the plastic change shape, that would be more than 70C? then I think my kitchen would be sauna right now.
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Not like sauna lah. Your kitchen is open and still got airflow from outside. But definitely hotter than others area. My fridge right side is empty space. Can see the compressor everything. Can feel the heat too.

Plastic also can change shape. Sure got problem liau.
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Quanta @ Feb 20 2014, 10:07 AM)
Hi supersound, which model do you recommend? Mine Panasonic also (Model: NR-B301M), 2 days = 4 units; 30 days, 60-64 units. For long term, I dun think it is good as by 2016/2017, tariff will be revised again.
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My Panasonic NR-b29t running 1.86kwh/day.(round it up 2kwh/day). With 730kwh/yrs, I probably can get a 600-700liter size fridge. Which is still can be lower down the consumption of my current fridge. Hunting, hunting.....
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QUOTE(Quanta @ Feb 20 2014, 10:45 AM)
yeap hunting hunting too. Samsung is out from my list.
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I never consider Korea brand at all. Kpop doesn't effect me. But I love their girl. brows.gif

But LG have a impressive linear inverter compressor. Different from all the brand fridge. But just don't like the side by side type. So LG out.

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