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dayalan86
post Dec 5 2018, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(brapa? @ Dec 2 2018, 01:03 AM)
I want to put my fridge at a place without power point. Is it ok if i pull a wire 25' long to the fridge ?
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What size is your fridge? Generally not recommended to use extension cord for refrigerator as this are high power consumption unit (especially when the compressor kicks in).

Best to get a electrician to run proper sized plug point with the right cable size, fit for your use.
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post Dec 7 2018, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(brapa? @ Dec 5 2018, 12:14 PM)
Its 200L size. I am staying in already & quite hassle to relocate kitchen items if electrician come do hacking. I am thinking to use the kettle type wire & join with electrical tape.
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This kind of jointing is not good for fridge and also for your family; it is a potential fire hazard.

There is no need to hack, can run the wire using the "white strip" plastic cable duct which can be installed on the wall. This will be permanent.

Even for electric kettle, jointing using tape is very bad as your electric kettle (not jug kettle) draws about 1kW of power albeit for a very short period. Over time, if there is oxidisation on the connectors; there will be very high chance of fire or electrocution.

That's why it is often recommended to replace the wire if its broken, temporary fix for one off use is ok but not continuous use.


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post Dec 10 2018, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Dec 5 2018, 03:08 PM)
No0b query.. empty fridge or fully-stocked fridge uses more electricity?
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A fully-stocked to rated capacity and not overloaded (ie stuffed to every nook and cranny) fridge is more energy saving.

Reason is, an empty fridge is nothing but a cold cabinet; once you open the door, automatically there is a very fast temperature difference happening; whereas, a fridge with items in it, will hold the temperature longer; since the items inside hold their temperature for awhile.

During a power failure, a good fridge can keep cool for quite long period of time provided the door is not opened. Hard to practice in practical terms, but if you have a planned power shutdown; then you can know how to plan smile.gif
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post Dec 11 2018, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Dec 11 2018, 09:06 AM)
Thanks! So to counter this, makes sense to put water in plastic bags and put in the fridge and refrigerator compartment?
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You can chill water, which can be used for drinking?

For freezer, you could freeze water bottle or containers with ice.

Is this fridge going to be hardly used? as in for airbnb? If it's going to be rarely opened on a daily basis, doesn't make much of a difference.
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post Dec 12 2018, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 12 2018, 01:02 PM)
2 weeks ago, TNB plan to shutdown power at 10am till 5pm. And on that day 11am, I have to travel holiday and only back a week later.  sweat.gif

As schedule, power down at 10.30am. The feeling of going out and don't no what will happen after a week coming back is killing.  sad.gif

I put my faith on TNB hopefully no trip after power restore.  notworthy.gif

Luckly fridge running fine and no trip when coming back. Phew!  sweat.gif

I have to think something how to keep the fridge running without worry when long holiday in future.
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You are using Hitachi with VIP insulation technology right? This can keep cool for more than 12 hours, if doors are left closed during power failure.

If leaving for extended hours, usually it is recommended to freeze water on a paper cup and put a coin on it; this way, if there is a power failure; you can gauge the extent of cooling loss and whether to toss the food away from your fridge.

Technically, as the water melts, the coin will move further downwards; should it reach the bottom; it means all your stuff in the freezer is already thawed and has been refreezed, when the power came up smile.gif

Our own personal experience, with Hitachi Big French 750FPMX; it can keep cool for about 5 to 6 hours with power loss (had to keep yelling at the maid not to touch the fridge during that period though, as it was unplanned shutdown)

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post Dec 12 2018, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 12 2018, 02:20 PM)
12hr? That is too fast for the cool air run away.

My experience kena trip and power down for the fridge is 3.5day. It trip at the evening after morning when out for a 4 day holiday.

I did put some gel ice, freeze some bottle water and alot of ice on the ice compartment. After 3.5day, it still maintain some coolness even everything melt away.

But mostly, all the meat will take out before holiday.

A week or 2 holiday ? Even the best super tech insulation won't be survive that long. I need to think something how to backup power after trip.
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Genset will be the best back up, 12 hours is good enough for our weather I guess, unless you can further insulate the fridge. Especially the door.
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post Jul 9 2019, 09:34 AM

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Our Hitachi Big French R-W750FPMX just broke down yesterday after 5 years of use. There is power and the main display functions and responds to temperature adjustments, but the freezer compartment and fridge compartment are both at normal room temperature.

Can hear the compressor running, but overall it is not cold. Expected it to last at least 10 years before a breakdown like this occur. Did anyone else face similar issue with Hitachi Fridge before?

I tried switching it off and on again, but still doesn't cool. I suspect the compressor relay or the compressor itself is faulty.
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post Jul 11 2019, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Jul 9 2019, 09:34 AM)
Our Hitachi Big French R-W750FPMX just broke down yesterday after 5 years of use. There is power and the main display functions and responds to temperature adjustments, but the freezer compartment and fridge compartment are both at normal room temperature.

Can hear the compressor running, but overall it is not cold. Expected it to last at least 10 years before a breakdown like this occur. Did anyone else face similar issue with Hitachi Fridge before?

I tried switching it off and on again, but still doesn't cool. I suspect the compressor relay or the compressor itself is faulty.
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To update, we managed to get our local repair guy to check; found the compressor tubing return line exploded and all of the cooling agent (R600A) has drained off; most likely due to poor material use and QC from the factory.

Bought this Fridge in 2014 new for RM 5299 and it is still on sale until now, Hitachi R-W750FPMX. This just happened 2 weeks out of my extended warranty. Compressor is under warranty replacement by Hitachi but all associated labour costs including gas refill is excluded.

This is the first time we have such a major issue in any of our refrigerators; my parents old Sharp fridge is still running well after 20 years (it had some minor issue with the defrost timer & sticky thermostat 5 years back). Quite disheartening, probably we were just unlucky to get a bad batch of fridge or the copper material used could be really of very low quality for it to completely explode and come off from the compressor.
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post Jul 20 2019, 10:14 AM

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[quote=voonmingloo,Jul 12 2019, 09:09 AM]
[quote=gshock_kaki,Jul 9 2019, 07:31 AM]
anyone face any spontaneous breakage of the hitachi glass door? mine suddenly break today after 3 years.. regretted the change of the fridge coz the normal metal discontinued that time...

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We also face the same problem last month after it was purchased few years back. Checked the door price, need at least 1k plus. So resorted using a transparent tint film (like the one use on car windscreen) tinted to it. Asked someone to help me doing it.

Don't press the broken glass hard as it will become powder n

won't stick to the broken glass so have to gently apply it.

Hope these helps.
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I'm wondering if you tried using other material, like patterned wrap or something. I believe since it is happening to a few people, probably you guys can file a claim with consumer tribunal as well.

I intend to file my case against Hitachi, because our fridge apparently has a major blockage in the cooling system which caused the compressor copper connection to explode. The Hitachi service rep dropped by yesterday to perform flushing prior to replacing the compressor and found that there is a major block.

Repair works if undertaken, will need a complete strip down of the fridge to replace the internal copper tubing; which will not be covered under warranty. Only the compressor itself is covered.

We are awaiting Hitachi's response. As our fridge is just over 5 years of use and was expecting it to last for at least 10 years without problems.

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post Aug 14 2019, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Aug 14 2019, 05:18 PM)
My big 11 years old LG had the same issue over the weekend night, premium ice cream bought on Sunday all melted, only discovered on Monday noon doh.gif

Serviceman came and confirmed the compressor is faulty, and it's sealed within the fridge, have to take the whole fridge back to open it up to replace the compressor and do some further checking  sad.gif

total damage RM650 inclusive of labor & parts
whereas my other workhorse, more than 30 years old National fridge still running strong...
no major issue all these years, but getting not so cold nowadays, I think it's time to retire it, as I'm told old fridges from yesteryears aren't electric bill friendly.
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Ours is confirmed beyond repair by Hitachi, decided to take Hitachi to consumer court as my fridge is just 5 years old and
the compressor is warranty is for 10 years. In this case, the faulty compressor caused the whole refrigerant line to be blocked and damage beyond repair. Hitachi wants us to pay 2.8k for the same exact model replacement.

Panasonic I guess is more reliable, your old national probably needs a new thermostat. Our old Sharp is also running well for the past 20 years, we did repair the defrost timer and thermostat.



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post Aug 28 2019, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(Chumpy @ Aug 26 2019, 04:23 PM)
Thanks bro. I'm aware at your problem. Hopefully its an isolated case. Still can't decide either Sharp or Panasonic. Both got good deal.
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I would say Panasonic, especially if you store vegetables. Somehow Sharp isn't too good with vegetables, otherwise I guess they are both good.

Panasonic after sales support is good too, similar to Sharp.

My parents 20 year old Sharp still cools as good as new except for louder compressor sound and heat generated to the surrounding, but then it is a non inverter type which tend to last longer than the energy efficient counterpart.

I have relative's using Panasonic inverter fridge and haven't had major issues with it either. Easily serviceable and spares can be obtained easily too, same for Sharp.

Stay away from Hitachi, due to dubious quality on their compressor and extremely poor after sales service. I'm pending a consumer tribunal hearing against Hitachi this week.

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post Sep 5 2019, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Sep 5 2019, 11:48 AM)
may i know which Hitachi fridge model did u buy?
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Hitachi Model RW750fpmx, 4 door big French

The compressor model with issues is WL16H10DAN

This compressor is fitted across different model of Hitachi fridge, and seems to be a well known issue to Hitachi as the failure which happened to us has happened to numerous other customers including those from Thailand, where this fridge is manufactured.

There seems to be a faulty batch of compressors for fridge manufactured from 2014 to 2016, which are only recently failing and along with it clogging the internal refrigerant line of the fridge; making it beyond repair.

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post Sep 5 2019, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(hpares @ Sep 5 2019, 01:20 PM)
My fridge nasional 1 door age almost 10 years. Is midea md232 rm 750 good enough? Purpose is actually to lower electrical bill. Heard from people old fridge consume more 75% electricity..
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If energy efficiency is what you are after; look for energy star rating and also the after sales reliability.

Usually we use Midea at our project site office, no issues whatsoever and we run it off genset at project site office.

For home use I personally prefer Samsung or Panasonic. If budget, probably Sharp. As I have personally experienced good after sales support from these 3 Brands.
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post Sep 22 2019, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(plax @ Sep 16 2019, 10:08 AM)
I have exactly the same problem now. My Hitachi Big French R-W720EM. Bought 2013

Refill gas and only lasting for 2 week and it happen again. The Hitachi service uncle said no point refill gas whatsoever as it will keep happening again and again. He also said no repair option as the problem is inside the line between the compressor or leaking inside smthing like that.

Was thinking Hitachi is the best brand for fridge, its obviously wrong.
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Did they offer you a 50% offer? You can try file case with consumer court for RM 5. Seems like Hitachi knows one whole batch or more faulty refrigerators are out there in people's home.

Yeah, better to go for Panasonic or Samsung. We bought a Samsung RL4323RBABS during the interim while fighting the case with Hitachi. This fridge is so much more silent than the Hitachi; don't even know when it is running except when the compressor is starting up after the defrost cycle; even then the noise is for about 10 seconds at most; which is barely audible.

Hitachi almost always has a weird buzzing kind of sound when it is on.
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post Sep 24 2019, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(jason5443 @ Sep 22 2019, 09:35 PM)
How much did you buy the Samsung
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I got it for RM 2699 with two year warranty

You can get it for RM2699 to 2899 with 5 year warranty from TBM as well.

Do have a look at Panasonic NR-BY608xS too which is similarly priced, it's a much bigger fridge with a slightly smaller freezer compartment. We didn't get the Panasonic as we personally don't find the chest drawer freezer practical for daily use.
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post Oct 1 2019, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ Oct 1 2019, 08:32 AM)
Overall OK, still functions well

One side door hinge "plastic" (dono how to describe, its a small piece of plastic that helps snap the fridge close and open) broke. But I still continue using as normal
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That part cost about RM 15 or so and labour charge about RM 50 to change.

Our now returned to Hitachi French Door fridge also had issues with the door stopper (that's the name for that plastic piece); the newer material seems to be more flexible. We had to replace both the left and right Freezer door stopper as it simply snapped by itself.
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post Oct 3 2019, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(blibala @ Oct 2 2019, 12:01 PM)
Any good chest freezer to reduce commend? Googled and found some non popular brand such as hisense, haier, morgan and etc.

Anyone has experience with chest freezer?
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My mom is using Morgan chest freezer, overall quality ok but they cut cost by not using anti mold gasket. Thus the gasket is a source of very heavy mould growth.

Do get a chest freezer with anti mold gasket
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post Oct 3 2019, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(myqd @ Oct 3 2019, 04:45 PM)
thanks for the info,so u settle with 700L ?
Hi,u mean ur fridege ,same model,also have the same issue ?
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I was using Hitachi RW750FPMX four door french model; the door stopper item is quite similar across the similar capacity larger size models for Hitachi (parts commonality) to keep costs low.

My Hitachi had a faulty compressor which caused the fridge to die just after 5 years of use; and rendered beyond repair as the internal piping got choked when the compressor failed.

Prior to the compressor fault, these door stopper part broke first after 3 years of use and 6 months apart for each door.

I filed a case against Hitachi at the consumer court and received a replacement fridge from Hitachi at no cost to us.

Hitachi seems to know the faulty compressor issue but never issued any recall; based on discussion with the service personnel and also the replacement fridge delivery person.

Very poor customer service, hence I would never ever recommend this brand to people again either for refrigerator or other appliances.

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post Oct 8 2019, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(waile @ Oct 8 2019, 08:13 AM)
Hmmm... I was planning to get Hitachi R-WB850P5M but after reading the feedbacks here, I am a bit worried. Is this model using that problematic compressor?

This model is not new, launched in early 2016.
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Hitachi gave us this fridge model as replacement, it is quite noisy but I couldn't check the compressor model as there is a back plate covering the comoressor portion. My suggestion is to avoid Hitachi
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post Oct 8 2019, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ Oct 7 2019, 09:00 AM)
Any way to check if my model is affected? Quite concerning reading about your experience. Glad you got it sorted out. My fridge is roughly 2 years old.
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There was no signs prior to failure except for a very high pitched buzzing sound two days before the fridge and freezer stopped cooling.

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