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chubbyken
post Aug 3 2010, 02:50 PM

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I am considering buying property for own stay / investment. Some said if dont buy now, will never afford in future. Some said the price is too high now. Should wait and see...
After reading this thread for some time, I still dont know what to do...
Just wonder how people can have so much $$$ to own so much, while some graduates studied hard and worked humbly for more than 10 years counting every cent before purchasing...
I guess $$$ goes to the risk taker...
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post Aug 6 2010, 10:06 AM

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I like ur statement that since property price is so high and landed rental is lower in comparison, why buy? might as well rent...

BTW can u explain what is 8x and 4x means by below? I am new in property terms... thx.

"If buying means 8x income and renting 4x income there is a real problem here. "
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post Sep 1 2010, 10:42 AM

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last time graduate from U means no need worry about food and place to stay, now fresh graduates need to save hard to pay down payment...

what is going on...
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post Oct 29 2010, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(prody @ Oct 29 2010, 09:46 AM)
Bank Negara likely to announce property curbs next week

KUALA LUMPUR: Bank Negara is expected to announce next week measures to curb property speculation and a programme to create financial awareness for the youth, said sources.

The introduction of a loan to value requirement for people buying their third house or more has been talked about, but central bank governor Tan Sri Dr Zeti Akhtar Aziz said any new rules regarding property loans would not be a blanket clamp.

“We want to promote house ownership but we want it to be done in an orderly manner and we don’t want speculative activity,’’ she said after a media engagement programme at the Global Islamic Finance Forum.

“So, for first time house owners and perhaps even the second one, any new rules will not apply.’’

Zeti acknowledged there were pockets of property bubbles in the country, but on the whole, steep property rises were not seen throughout the country.

“If we consider there is any imminent risk of a property bubble, of course we will take pre-emptive action. We are not going to wait for the bubble to happen before taking action,’’ she said.

Debate over the implementation of a loan to value ratio has been ongoing and the understanding is that people buying their third house or more would be required to pay a larger downpayment than the current standard minimum of 10% of the value of a home.

On Wednesday, Deputy Finance Minister Datuk Donald Lim Siang Chai told parliament Bank Negara was studying possible policy changes for those taking up loans to buy a third house or more.

He also said prices of properties in several locations in large cities in the country had shot up due to speculation and if the situation was not controlled at an early stage, home prices would go up beyond the consumer’s financial means and may affect socio-economic growth.

Lim said people would also face difficulty in buying houses, which might lead to an increase in debts.

“The loan-to-value ratio will be specific in nature and its implications on the country’s economic growth will be taken into account,” he added.

Zeti said the banking system through its own risk management and governance process was addressing rising property prices and Bank Negara had other pre-emptive areas it might take up.

One example she gave was on financial literacy and management especially for the younger population below the age of 30.

“We want them to be better positioned to manage their finances when they acquire a car and a house in the beginning of the career,’’ she said, adding that the central bank would introduce programmes for those purposes and was ready to deal with any excesses through a wide range of instruments.
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wonder for joint purchasers, lets say married couple
they both considered second time purchaser if they already jointly own a property?


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post Oct 29 2010, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Oct 29 2010, 02:35 PM)
this is all good. The faster and sharper the price increase, the better. I would like to see some day when the norm for new condos is RM1000psf.
lets see how long this game of musical chair is gonna last. tongue.gif
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i kind of have the same feeling,
looking at all the fully booked red stickers and sold out before launch, even no show units, or booking without looking at layout, is it really true that "if dont buy now, u will have no chance to buy later"?
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post Nov 10 2010, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(prody @ Nov 10 2010, 09:09 AM)
It's in one of the area I monitor. wink.gif
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The one property that I viewed few weeks ago also seem not too hot already
before 70% LTV, agent told me better make decision quick, he has a lot of potential buyers eyeing the house, waiting to view the house...
but this week i receieve few calls from him pushing me for buying decision...
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post Nov 18 2010, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Nikmon @ Nov 18 2010, 12:18 PM)
This is the problem lo, the market is driven by investor and developer, the price is high and people like me earn < 10K, can't afford a 1000sqf,  all price is > 450k.....  car loan, education loan, children education fees, and need to consider the repayment for house loan will increase frequently in next year due to increasing of BLR.  Sad.....
dooms day for normal buyer...

Is this healthy or not? cry.gif
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i have the same concerns.
but what to do?
price is high but still got plenty of ppl can afford...
meaning maybe i can just blame myself for lack of ability to earn a lot of $$$...
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post Dec 27 2010, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(dreamadream @ Dec 27 2010, 12:55 PM)
i don't agree with the "pressure for wages increment also up" bit. Just take a simple example, 10 years ago as a fresh graduate my starting salary was RM2000 a month, last year, when my youngest brother started working, his starting salary is RM1800.

Our average salary is well lagged behind the property value  especially at today's price.
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agree... flex.gif
more than ten years ago new employees in my company got RM2700 starting salary
now new employess get RM2900...
increses by 7.4% in 10 years time...
how much property price increase in 10 years?
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post Jan 3 2011, 03:12 PM

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Thanks to this forum,
I have never linked ethic with property flipping until reading from this forum
Why is that ppl condemn stocking food but ok with deliberately pushing property price?
Both food and house are necessities…

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post Jan 20 2011, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(attahun @ Jan 19 2011, 07:22 PM)
+1...greedy developer and agents are the reason the sudden price hike..(hahaha blame on other people coz own self cannot afford tongue.gif )
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i think since developers have taken the advantage to jack up the price so high,
there will be not much benefit or gain left for flippers???
well it is just my opinion...
still trying to figure out how to own a new house that not so far from KL city working place...
a bit worry about the transportation and petro spent if stay too far from KLCC like Cyberjaya
and agree subsale with >10% down payment + legal fees, etc really cannot tahan
not to mention the higher than valuation seeling price...



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