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PUPUMAMA
post Oct 26 2010, 09:17 PM

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Is really ridiculous idea on that subject.
How our next generation gonna pay our debt?
May be they are kidding or just making fools of themselves.
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post Oct 27 2010, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(PUPUMAMA @ Oct 26 2010, 09:17 PM)
Is really ridiculous idea on that subject.
How our next generation gonna pay our debt?
May be they are kidding or just making fools of themselves.
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the gov is promoting more debt among the people so that the elite class can make more money.
it is just like toll concessionaire. 2 geration of people paying for it when they use the road.
and if the toll rates dont rise according to the aggrement, then the gov pays them.
and the gov money is also the rakyat moneys.

we just pay from either our right or left pocket.
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post Oct 27 2010, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(epie @ Oct 26 2010, 06:51 PM)
hahahha...pity the new generation
they will curse their own parents later
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Sounds like Eastern thinking too much like the West. Look where that got them! This is a play for the rich to get richer by creating a strong middle class in which they will feed from, put them into massive debt, then feed on them again when a bubble bursts.

This has been around for a 1000 years. Wait for the correction to unfold, then buy and buy some more while you can.
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post Oct 27 2010, 08:23 AM

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Agreed, the educational system helps to produce these strong middle class group to feed the minority.
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post Oct 27 2010, 12:06 PM

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I don't know why there is so much doom and gloom here. As long as you're not one of the lemmings, the property bubble will not affect you. This is also a blessing in disguise, take for instance the glove/rubber comp. from last year till now. Basically, a bubble and there's a price correction going on now. The same thing will happen to real estate. As long you don't directly participate in the acts of lunacy people are doing, you are fine. Dubai and the US property market 2 years ago was a good lesson but I guess people are too blind by greed.

In addition, this would be one of the best time to buy property stocks, just remember to bail out when it has reach it's height and don't be greedy. Can't wait for the bubble to burst! And buy from auctions!
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post Oct 27 2010, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Oct 26 2010, 05:06 PM)
If your estimation of market value is correct: the answer is yes.

The question you should ask yourself is why would somebody pay you 20% more then market value?
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Many properties in prime areas are going much higher than market prices. Its because these areas are demand driven not market driven. People still but because they know that these prices will remain or go up further. Prime areas like Bangsar, TTDI, Damansara Utama, Damansara Heights, etc have always been on the rise. So people are still willing to pay demend driven prices for these choice locations. The only problem that arises is when u try and get a bank loan as banks evaluate according to market rates. But u can always get the evaluation waived.
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post Oct 27 2010, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Oct 25 2010, 12:53 PM)
I always wonder if anybody actually buys at or near these asking prices. Is there any data on transacted prices for any development anywhere?
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Found some data on this site: JPPH

And calculated the following from here: Malaysian House Price Index

Average yearly increase in terrace price from 1988-2009 is 4.7%.
Average yearly increase in high rise price from 1988-2009 is 2.3%.


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post Oct 27 2010, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Goody2Shoes @ Oct 27 2010, 12:06 PM)
I don't know why there is so much doom and gloom here. As long as you're not one of the lemmings, the property bubble will not affect you. This is also a blessing in disguise, take for instance the glove/rubber comp. from last year till now. Basically, a bubble and there's a price correction going on now. The same thing will happen to real estate. As long you don't directly participate in the acts of lunacy people are doing, you are fine. Dubai and the US property market 2 years ago was a good lesson but I guess people are too blind by greed.

In addition, this would be one of the best time to buy property stocks, just remember to bail out when it has reach it's height and don't be greedy. Can't wait for the bubble to burst! And buy from auctions!
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Someone understands what's going on! Good comment!

If I may add to this, if you wish to take profits best to do so now, move into property stocks as suggested and sell as close to the top as possible. You wont be able to time the top but close and being a stock is liquid unlike a home that needs to find a buyer and close during the downturn.
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post Oct 27 2010, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 27 2010, 01:14 PM)
Many properties in prime areas are going much higher than market prices. Its because these areas are demand driven not market driven. People still but because they know that these prices will remain or go up further. Prime areas like Bangsar, TTDI, Damansara Utama, Damansara Heights, etc have always been on the rise. So people are still willing to pay demend driven prices for these choice locations. The only problem that arises is when u try and get a bank loan as banks evaluate according to market rates. But u can always get the evaluation waived.
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I guess one reason why they would pay 20% more is that the buyer is in ultra-BBB mode yes.

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post Oct 27 2010, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Oct 27 2010, 02:14 PM)
I guess one reason why they would pay 20% more is that the buyer is in ultra-BBB mode yes.
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20% higher is nothing. There are condo units in TTDI that have appreciated 40% in 12 months. All due to demand.
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QUOTE(prody @ Oct 27 2010, 01:16 PM)
Found some data on this site: JPPH

And calculated the following from here: Malaysian House Price Index

Average yearly increase in terrace price from 1988-2009 is 4.7%.
Average yearly increase in high rise price from 1988-2009 is 2.3%.
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This is the general increase. For properties its always location specific. U cannot take general figures and assume thats the case for all areas. There are places in KL which have appreciated between 40-50% in the past 1 year. Yet there are also areas which have dropped alot.
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post Oct 27 2010, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 27 2010, 02:20 PM)
This is the general increase. For properties its always location specific. U cannot take general figures and assume thats the case for all areas. There are places in KL which have appreciated between 40-50% in the past 1 year. Yet there are also areas which have dropped alot.
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Yeap, I'm aware it's an average. smile.gif
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post Oct 27 2010, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Oct 27 2010, 01:16 PM)
Found some data on this site: JPPH

And calculated the following from here: Malaysian House Price Index

Average yearly increase in terrace price from 1988-2009 is 4.7%.
Average yearly increase in high rise price from 1988-2009 is 2.3%.
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thanks for sharing....good info smile.gif
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post Oct 27 2010, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(leongal @ Oct 27 2010, 03:23 PM)
thanks for sharing....good info  smile.gif
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post Oct 27 2010, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 27 2010, 02:18 PM)
20% higher is nothing. There are condo units in TTDI that have appreciated 40% in 12 months. All due to demand.
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post Oct 27 2010, 09:39 PM

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only buy home property within ur own financial control.....
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post Oct 28 2010, 09:42 AM

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post Oct 28 2010, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 27 2010, 03:20 PM)
This is the general increase. For properties its always location specific. U cannot take general figures and assume thats the case for all areas. There are places in KL which have appreciated between 40-50% in the past 1 year. Yet there are also areas which have dropped alot.
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Any ideas what is the price increase in Puchong? There is this propertry developer Plenitude building houses for $300k+ last year but after one year increase to $400+ for the same size unit! Just the design change a bit. This is crazy if each year increase $100k, how people are going to afford to buy a house?

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QUOTE(escargo75 @ Oct 28 2010, 05:07 PM)
Any ideas what is the price increase in Puchong? There is this propertry developer Plenitude building houses for $300k+ last year but after one year increase to $400+ for the same size unit! Just the design change a bit. This is crazy if each year increase $100k, how people are going to afford to buy a house?

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But tats the problem, ppl can stil afford it sweat.gif ... Im juz nt sure when tis BBB mode gone end! hmm.gif
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post Oct 28 2010, 05:23 PM

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if 20% percent above market value, i will sell

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