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post Jul 8 2010, 10:39 PM

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Property market recovering, but oversupply of condo and office units


But high-rise condo and office market still in oversupply

PETALING JAYA: The residential property market, especially landed residences, is on a recovery mode and prices of houses in some parts of Kuala Lumpur and Petaling Jaya have rebounded by 15% to 25% in the past one year, property realtors and consultants said.

However, the high-rise condominium and office market is still facing an oversupply situation and will weigh down on the market at least over the next couple of months.

CB Richard Ellis Sdn Bhd executive director Paul Khong said Malaysians still had money to invest and residential was the hot favourite at the moment.

“Landed properties have rebounded in all segments across the board while in the strata segment, the high-end ones in KLCC and Mont’Kiara have moved relatively slower due to the current supply situation and the small tenancy market,” Khong added.

Khong said that although the Klang Valley landed housing market was hot, “it is not a property boom.”

According to Knight Frank Ooi & Zaharin Sdn Bhd managing director Eric Ooi, the landed residential property market has fared well as it is considered a good time to buy now.

“The market has certainly picked up due mainly to limited supply, the high liquidity in the system, and growing interest in property as a reliable investment instrument,” Ooi said.

The affordable entry cost and an all-time low bank interest rates have also contributed to the improved sentiment and rising house prices.

Ooi said landed residential property prices in some parts of Kuala Lumpur, such as Desa Parkcity, had breached new high and house prices in well-sought-after locations would continue to strengthen.

“I believe even the commercial sector has seen the worse and although the market is still soft, it is stabilising. If the economy continues to grow steadily, the commercial sector will be next to rebound,” Ooi added.

Ooi said that besides the good location, the unique concepts and exclusive features of some of the projects were the reasons for the strong demand and prices.

DTZ Nawawi Tie Leung Sdn Bhd executive director Brian Koh concurred that supply of landed housing property had not caught up with demand as there was a lag in new supply coming onstream after developers held back their project launches in the past two years.

“The performance is still very location centric and concept driven. Buyers prefer well-established neighbourhoods and those with good concepts. Security has become a top priority and that’s why gated and guarded projects are doing very well,” Koh said.

He said even some KLCC condominiums were attracting interest again.

“This time around most of the buyers are well heeled Malaysians who appreciate the exclusivity of the residences in the KLCC area. Having came off from their previous high, there is potential for some price upside. Moreover, prices of residences here are still lower than those in cities in other parts of the region.”

Koh said there was a need to monitor the impact of potential rise in interest rates on property demand especially in the medium to lower price range.

“The higher entry cost may affect demand going forward but it could have contributed to buyers locking in at the current low entry cost,” he added.

Perdana Parkcity Sdn Bhd director of marketing and sales Susan Tan said a combination of factors including a pent up in demand and limited supply were the main causes of the current price rebound in the residential market.

“There has been no new supply of landed housing in Kuala Lumpur in the past year. A fear that prices will climb further due to an expected rise in the cost of construction is also fuelling demand now.

“Buyers are willing to pay for the right address, a good overall concept and well landscaped and maintained environment. That’s why some highly sought after projects can fetch quite high price premiums,” Tan said.

Perdana ParkCity is the developer of the 473-acre Desa ParkCity in Kuala Lumpur which has fetched one of the highest premiums in terms of landed property prices in the capital city.

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post Sep 2 2010, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan0 @ Sep 1 2010, 10:19 AM)
ya, very cheap if exchange in currency, WTF, y malaysia like to compare with those high income country. y dont try to compare to others SEA country like indo, thailand.... SG fresh graduate degree holder get 3.5k salary, wat about m'sia. in SG if mid income dont have enough $ to buy private condo they still can go for government condo which price is below 500k. wat malaysia got? low cost flat and low cost house only for those family total income <3k. so wanna compare with HK, ya their house very the expensive, so? they dont have enough land, HK salary is 10x malaysia salary. wat u still want to compare?
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YES housing prices is very very afordable in malaysia. it is one of the lowest among developing country. every one can buy a house in malaysia easily. those people that are making noise is only great in their "noise" and would like to live in super link, semi D and bungalow.

a basic 3 room flat average 60k with monthly installment RM300. those that are making noise, is just plain CHOOSY
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post Sep 8 2010, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Sep 7 2010, 03:28 PM)
KL property being 13 time annual income is just crazy, how to sustain this kind of increase.
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its still very affordable
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post Sep 13 2010, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(wwwcomment @ Sep 11 2010, 10:14 AM)
I reckon u stretch ur loan hoping to flip fast for profit? Good luck to u...
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if u can flip. it dont matter if the property is up or down.
if it is up, then you can flip higher or hold on to it. but if property comes down, there are always property that are cheap and still flip for a profit.
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post Sep 16 2010, 02:55 AM

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back to the question. how many people are very convince that the bubble will burst soon?
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post Sep 20 2010, 11:55 PM

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everyone.... just BBB... it wont drop.... rclxms.gif
take up all the units...
the take up rates have been very good this month


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post Sep 22 2010, 12:58 PM

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Free-Cow-for-House Scheme

A developer based in Rajkot city, Gujarat State, India, outsmarted his rivals by offering a free cow for every newly-built bungalow. Not only did buyers sucked up to his offer in droves, the deal also freed the roads of cows which were a constant source of traffic disruption in the jammed roads in India.

As an additional sweetener, buyers get to park their cows in shelters specially built for them, called "Cow Parking Space" with cowherds to take care of them. At a monthly maintenance charge of only 5,000 Indian rupees, the house owners also get their names dangled on the cows as well.

A by-product of being a cow owner is that buyers get to enjoy free milk and other dairy products. Not surprisingly, sales topped 80%, trumping most of their rivals who could only offer the usual gold jewellery and cars as incentives.

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post Sep 22 2010, 11:17 PM

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hakon...just buy buy and buy k...

the 80% rule.. not official.
need clarification if it happen.
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post Sep 25 2010, 01:59 AM

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seriously i dont think there is any effects on the property market if the 3rd property can only be financed at 80%

also.. how do you define 3rd property. no clarification from BNM and its not official
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post Sep 28 2010, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 27 2010, 07:30 PM)
hakon,

If that is TRUE, the most likely REAL ESTATE BUBBLE in Malaysia will be in the high end....

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no really high end. it deepens on location. not the price
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post Oct 9 2010, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(arsenal @ Oct 8 2010, 10:50 PM)
might not want to wait...expected property price will increase upwards to cover 30% tax.
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ya .. sure jack up the price..to cover the 30%
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post Oct 9 2010, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(cody99 @ Oct 5 2010, 10:06 AM)
Site line a little....

Since China & HK has set so many restriction on property investment, do you think mainland chinese will invest in Singapore and Malaysia?

or it is happening now?
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ya..the chinese are coming over...
not in a big way...
but from info i gather...
their investment in RE in malaysia is increasing.
many chinese are looking forward to stay in malaysia.
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post Oct 13 2010, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Oct 13 2010, 05:01 PM)
Budget: Expect Tighter Regulations For Credit Card & Property Sector

KUALA LUMPUR, Oct 13 (Bernama) -- The Government is expected to adopt tighter regulations in the 2011 Budget to curb potential dangerous run-up in consumer credit card spending and speculative activities in the property market.

"We believe Bank Negara Malaysia (BNM) is focusing on tackling household debt in 2011 to promote healthy credit card spending," said Kenanga Research.

In its 2011 "Wish List", Kenanga said the central bank should consider imposing tighter borrowing limit for the property sector to avert potential over-leveraging on the household segment and speculations.

It said bank loans should be lowered to between 70 and 80 per cent value ratio for third mortgage, it said.

Bank Negara should also consider capping maximum of two mortgages for each borrower, it said, adding that such a rule would slow down housing price appreciation rate, going forward.

Should tighter borrowing rules be enforced in 2011, it would not have any impact on loan growth this year as borrowings are anticipated to remain strong till year-end, it said.

"But we are cautiously optimistic on business loans as businesses in the next six months may be negatively impacted by global economic turmoil and Malaysia's economy is not immuned from moderating global growth," it said.

The research house said it was cautious for the second half of this year due to healthy loan growth but increasing risk on slower growth in the business segment, namely manufacturing and exports.

"Profit margin squeeze is directly triggered by the wave of intensely- competitive pricing, moderate growth expectation and possibility of a slowdown on mortgages if 70 per cent to 80 per cent loan-to-value ratio (LVR) is implemented.

"We see the implementation of a blanket 70 per cent to 80 per cent LVR cap as a real challenge to the industry's loan growth next year and could put pressure on retail banks," it said.

However, strong asset quality suggested lower credit charge-off, going forward, compensating net profit for the lower top line growth, it said.

As for credit cards, Kenanga said new measures should see tougher limits on the number of cards a person could hold and lower credit limit on each card.

Bank Negara should restrict a consumer to own only two credit cards from two banks of their choice and allow people with an annual income of above RM24,000 to own a credit card from the current minimum requirement of RM18,000.

The central bank should also reduce spending limit by 1.5 times their monthly salary (currently 2.5-3.0 times), set at the bank's discretion for first-time applicants.

"In our view, stricter credit card rules are prudent and limit the risk of rising household non-performing loans. It will curb spending-spree cultures that have surfaced in certain segments of the population recently," it added.

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financing at 70% is more applicable rather than 30% rpgt.but it only applies on the third house.
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post Oct 14 2010, 11:57 PM

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we will wait for the announcement tmr
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post Oct 16 2010, 10:09 PM

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prices will still be JACKed up.
just that the money dont goes into gov coffers tongue.gif
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post Oct 18 2010, 11:33 PM

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as i have said before...
its going up
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post Oct 22 2010, 12:22 AM

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yaya,
long live BN rclxms.gif
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post Oct 23 2010, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(Bobby C @ Oct 22 2010, 10:09 AM)
A very simple answer in relation to a very complex structure set up by the Legend in the 80'.

Why live in urban when u have cheap accomodation 10-20km from city?
Ans:- Higher salary to achieve high income nation but roads all choke up with 600,000 new vehicles on the road every yr. The cost that rakyat have to bare for The Legend and his Proton Naza cronies. They have to keep pushing up their sales to cover cost since they cannot sell overseas.

How to live 10-20km away from home if you spend 2-3 hrs traveling by cars, 2-4hrs traveling by public transport daily? How to increase productivity?

If we have MRT in the 80' instead of Proton, we could have achieved high income nation by now. Rakyat productivity increase, without Proton global car manufacturers will build their car plants here took away big chunk from Thailand.

And the stories go on and on. You have to look back and search the root of all evils. Now the younger generations are all tight up due to the messy short sighted policies/road maps that were not co-ordinate and implemented in the 80', 90' for the good of future generations. Only for the good of few Legends and their cronies.

100-storey building near Stadium Merdeka? Good luck KL folks. Those who work near KL have to move closer to the city or live in the city.

Take good care of your ownself and family, cronies will never even care if you live on the streets.
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post Oct 26 2010, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(property101 @ Oct 25 2010, 11:28 PM)
the joke of the year  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif i wonder if our minister feel stupid for himself to say this
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post Oct 27 2010, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(PUPUMAMA @ Oct 26 2010, 09:17 PM)
Is really ridiculous idea on that subject.
How our next generation gonna pay our debt?
May be they are kidding or just making fools of themselves.
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the gov is promoting more debt among the people so that the elite class can make more money.
it is just like toll concessionaire. 2 geration of people paying for it when they use the road.
and if the toll rates dont rise according to the aggrement, then the gov pays them.
and the gov money is also the rakyat moneys.

we just pay from either our right or left pocket.

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