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cody99
post Oct 8 2010, 06:04 PM

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Can't compare Ang Moh and Orian.

Chinese usually has high saving...
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post Oct 8 2010, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Onemorething @ Oct 8 2010, 05:02 PM)
What is with these Star Property writers.  My 9 year old can write a more comprehensive article.

Using RE for inflation hedging is OVER!  In the western world for a decade or longer and in Asia (guessing 3 years).

The age of the house in the West is done.

The age of liquidity is here!
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sulifeisgreat
post Oct 8 2010, 08:06 PM

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nteresting thumbup.gif so, wat action do we take in tis age of liquidity?
just shout? put cash under mattress? pretend nothing happens? or let 9 year old toss the coin? tongue.gif

QUOTE(Onemorething @ Oct 8 2010, 05:02 PM)
What is with these Star Property writers.  My 9 year old can write a more comprehensive article.

Using RE for inflation hedging is OVER!  In the western world for a decade or longer and in Asia (guessing 3 years).

The age of the house in the West is done.

The age of liquidity is here!
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post Oct 8 2010, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(MaxWealth @ Oct 8 2010, 04:17 PM)
Wondering is it reasonable for property price to be as high as now..Should i get property now or later?
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wait after budget 2010, property price will drop bcos less speculators.
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post Oct 8 2010, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Oct 8 2010, 10:48 PM)
wait after budget 2010, property price will drop bcos less speculators.
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might not want to wait...expected property price will increase upwards to cover 30% tax.
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(arsenal @ Oct 8 2010, 10:50 PM)
might not want to wait...expected property price will increase upwards to cover 30% tax.
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with current price, some also hard to sell out....

if increase just to cover back to rpgt, then u better keep it....don't sell...
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:27 PM

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i'm not really biased on neither side...property bubble or not...overprice or not

but i have 1 question for those who think they better w8 for the property price to drop
ask urself....how high is high and how low is low
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post Oct 9 2010, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(arsenal @ Oct 8 2010, 10:50 PM)
might not want to wait...expected property price will increase upwards to cover 30% tax.
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ya .. sure jack up the price..to cover the 30%
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post Oct 9 2010, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Oct 8 2010, 08:06 PM)
nteresting  thumbup.gif so, wat action do we take in tis age of liquidity?
just shout? put cash under mattress? pretend nothing happens? or let 9 year old toss the coin?  tongue.gif
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Added on October 9, 2010, 1:20 am
QUOTE(0106127 @ Oct 9 2010, 01:04 AM)
ya .. sure jack up the price..to cover the 30%
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Not! this tax works against property prices just like a rise in interest rates, inflation pressures on everyday living costs and a downturn in the stock market.

This post has been edited by Onemorething: Oct 9 2010, 01:20 AM
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post Oct 9 2010, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(cody99 @ Oct 5 2010, 10:06 AM)
Site line a little....

Since China & HK has set so many restriction on property investment, do you think mainland chinese will invest in Singapore and Malaysia?

or it is happening now?
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ya..the chinese are coming over...
not in a big way...
but from info i gather...
their investment in RE in malaysia is increasing.
many chinese are looking forward to stay in malaysia.
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post Oct 9 2010, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(0106127 @ Oct 9 2010, 01:24 AM)
ya..the chinese are coming over...
not in a big way...
but from info i gather...
their investment in RE in malaysia is increasing.
many chinese are looking forward to stay in malaysia.
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lolz...we are pendatang, they still want come here to stay....
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post Oct 9 2010, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(xSean @ Oct 9 2010, 01:28 AM)
lolz...we are pendatang, they still want come here to stay....
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u will be surprise to know how many chinese enter and leave malaysia.

the prefer to stay here rather than in china


Added on October 9, 2010, 1:33 am
QUOTE(Onemorething @ Oct 9 2010, 01:18 AM)
Not!  this tax works against property prices just like a rise in interest rates, inflation pressures on everyday living costs and a downturn in the stock market.
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the price will most prob stagnant for a few months...
and then jack up more to cover 30% rpgt.

in the end property prices still up

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post Oct 9 2010, 12:50 PM

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main reason property price went up was due to speculation of new launch properties. FLIPPING.
30% of RPGT will affect FLIPPING. if implemented, property price will go down, that's for sure.

those who say prices will go further up are mainly vested parties who reluctant to see this tax eat into their profits.
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post Oct 9 2010, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Oct 9 2010, 12:50 PM)
main reason property price went up was due to speculation of new launch properties. FLIPPING.
30% of RPGT will affect FLIPPING. if implemented, property price will go down, that's for sure.

those who say prices will go further up are mainly vested parties who reluctant to see this tax eat into their profits.
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agreed with you

btw if increase, why need increase 30%, they really dun know RPGT works
the increase will be marginal as the RPGT on profit only(profit 100K, tax 30k only mar)

for those who want buy for own stay..there is no "what time to buy"
just buy it if everything fit your needs, not like you move every few years
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post Oct 9 2010, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(106127 @ Oct 9 2010, 01:30 AM)
u will be surprise to know how many chinese enter and leave malaysia.

the prefer to stay here rather than in china


Added on October 9, 2010, 1:33 am

the price will most prob stagnant for a few months...
and then jack up more to cover 30% rpgt.

in the end property prices still up
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Speculator seller can jack up 30%, but if buyer refuse to buy the after 30% jacked up price, transaction won't be done.
If sellers have difficult to sell with jack up price, naturally speculator and flipper will shy away the market, and there won't be so much buyers around for new properties, eventually price become more stable.

Remember RPGT only affected short term buyers and properties flipper/speculator, it won't affect the long term sellers.
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post Oct 9 2010, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 9 2010, 03:13 PM)
Speculator seller can jack up 30%, but if buyer refuse to buy the after 30% jacked up price, transaction won't be done.
If sellers have difficult to sell with jack up price, naturally speculator and flipper will shy away the market, and there won't be so much buyers around for new properties, eventually price become more stable.

Remember RPGT only affected short term buyers and properties flipper/speculator, it won't affect the long term sellers.
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yeah i agree wit that...it will only affect short term flippers
the big investors just need to hold the properties for 5 years and can get away from rpgt
the problem is still not soved
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post Oct 9 2010, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(epie @ Oct 9 2010, 03:28 PM)
yeah i agree wit that...it will only affect short term flippers
the big investors just need to hold the properties for 5 years and can get away from rpgt
the problem is still not soved
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The market is flooded with flippers. With the sole intention to earn a handsome profit within the shortest period of time.
They are the ones who create this insatiable demand which drives up the price.
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post Oct 9 2010, 09:52 PM

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This RPGT is going to impact market sentiment and affect most to those fippers with no holding power.

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post Oct 9 2010, 11:15 PM

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Personally I'm all for RPGT. This'll help us glimpse how much of the demand out there is genuine.
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