Hahaha, as I already suspected and mentioned in your thread, they will give you such crap tires to fit your budget!

Better than replica rims?? I'm not sure about that, I think it's about equally bad!
Yeah of course, they can only work with the budget given to them. There's no way anyone can fit set of good 17' rims and tires with such low budget, no matter where you ask. No need to waste your time looking for Thailand made tires either (btw many premium brand tires are actually made in Thailand like PS3/4 and Goodyear F1D5!).

Yup you might just be able to get PS4 with your budget, so if really can then go for it coz it's the best tire available for your 16' size now. It should elevate your car's handling even more than the V12E2.

It will be worse FC and also acceleration/performance due to heavier rims, provided that you go with normal type ones. The rotation is will be about the same as the total diameter will be similar by using thinner profile tires. The difference in FC and performance will be noticeable. If you want to go bigger rims, actually it is recommended to choose lighter one, so you won't get worse FC & performance. So when shopping for rims, don't just look at the styling but more importantly check the weight!

Btw what car is yours?

Yes difference in acceleration is surely more noticeable than FC.

Difference in rims weight can be much more than difference in tire weight coz usually tires weigh about similar despite a bit different sizes (unless the difference in size is very large too).So paying attention to the rim's weight is more important. You can even go bigger size yet loose weight if you switch to lightweight rims! So it's like having your cake and eat it too, coz you get better look, better handling due to bigger and thinner tires, yet you may also gain in acceleration and maintain FC.

Typical normal 15' OEM rims weigh about 6-7+kg. For City I don't recommend going for 17' coz your car is already a low powered econo car. That's why even just going to 16' already feel noticeable drop. You can still go 16' but find lightweight rims which will weigh about 5-6kg so you won't suffer in acceleration.

16 usually around 8-9kg while 17 is 9-10kg for normal cast type rims. If lightweight, 16' can be just 5-6kg while 17 6-7kg, some can be even lighter. For example my 17x8.5j forged rims weigh under 7kg. If you want to buy lightweight rims but price still cheap, go for Advanti Storm series, made in Taiwan by Enkei.

Those other cheap rims around 1k are surely just normal heavy rims. I'd rather try to find used Advanti Storm which are still in good condition rather than those new normal heavy rims. Heavy rims is just a big no IMHO.

Don't buy replica/fakes!

rs05rr is damn expensive though. Not sure also if have in 15'.

Nope, not necessarily. It depends on what tire size you're using. If you use the closest conversion size then it should barely have any difference in total diameter hence the ride height would also be about the same and therefore the chances of hitting road bumps is also still about the same.

Then ok lor, Lenso is decent also as long as original. Got photos?

There's a difference between original Taiwan brands and fake rims made in Taiwan or China or wherever. Original Taiwan rims like Enkei Tuning or Advanti are still fine coz they are still original, made with acceptable quality standards even though from Taiwan. These kinds of rims are value for money stuff so perfect for those with much more limited budget that cannot afford original Japan rims like Enkei Japan, Rays, SSR etc2. However those fake Rays/SSR/Enkei are a different story, coz they're really unlicensed products, not sure how and where they are made and to what standards, so those are the ones we need to worry about having them cracked or easily damaged. These are usually damn cheap stuff, still cheaper than the original Taiwan brands.

So don't get mixed up here between original Taiwan brands and fake/replica Taiwan/china stuff, those are different quality and also price range. The one we need to avoid are those fakes/replicas. How do you detect? Well you need to know/research what you want to buy first. For example if it's stated there Rays CE28 but not made in Japan and normal weight and priced only around rm1k+ then you know it's a fake. But if it's an Advanti Storm and lightweight then it's original even though made in Taiwan.

Enkei Tuning from Taiwan is actually pretty affordable. But anyway Advanti is also about equally good, especially the Storm series because those are the lightweight ones..

Ic, maybe that company is their branch for the SEA market.

Originally Advanti is a Taiwan brand, similar with Enkei Tuning, also has flow forming manufacturing technology for their lightweight series.

Whether 16 or 17 depends on what car/what is the original tire size of the car that came as std, then we can calculate what would be the maximum best fit for that. In general, if you use smaller cars then don't go 17.

Hmm for that Vios you can still go 17 but need to find a lightweight 17' rims that fits your budget and can tolerate a bit harsher ride, coz with 17' you'd need 215/45/17 tires which is rather low profile with sidewall height only 9.7cm.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Nov 28 2017, 10:43 AM

Lightweight Japan ones are expensive. Many just buy used ones (me included!), and even that still not cheap/more expensive than new Taiwan brands like Advanti. Best is just stay 16' la for your car, just buy better design, lighter a bit but wider, so looks better and can use wider 205/55 tires for better grip.

195/50/16 is too small and size also not that common. Minimum 205/50/16.

Rubber paint can easily remove/peel off yourself la, no need to go anywhere. If cannot remove then it's permanent paint already.

Naah should be easy, like peeling off a thin layer of dead skin. Maybe your rubber paint is bad quality one.

Try stick some adhesive tapes on top of the surface then take it off, that should help peel off the rubber paint along.

Are those prices new or used? If new, then those are also Taiwan Enkei (Enkei Tuning) coz prices of Enkei Japan is much higher still!

What size first? Usually for that budget you can get Taiwan's original Enkei Tuning but if want Enkei Japan then can only get used ones.