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post Jul 30 2008, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(sweetsnoopy99 @ Jul 30 2008, 09:56 PM)
biggrin.gif My kitten finally 3 of them open their eyes already rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif , after daily cleaning their eyes as i said before that their eyes was closed,but my problem now there is one kitten right eye is already open but the left still closed and when i clean it is open then after while it close again, but i will keep cleaning coz i did the same to the other 3 kitten,what i wanna ask shall i keep cleaning even after they open their eyes or not need to do it anymore..
is there is any kind of special food for the mummy cat,becouse now am giving her kitten food, as what elfreakz told me, so shall i countine it,it is safe and it not gonna effect the mother coz it kitten food..... hmm.gif
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yes you must continue kitten food until she finish give milk to the kitten. the kitten food she eat contain high protein and nutrition, when she eat, for sure her milk will have more protein right. then the kitten will get it from her mom. if you give adult food, it won't contain much protein and nutrition. Kitten need all this too fully grow. Kitten food also will build up the mother body, oh well you know lah, after give birth sure body spoil one tongue.gif

like human, women normally will eat healthy food, fruits, etc during birth and after giving birth while milking her child right? so this is the same as what we do to our pets.

oh well, at the end of the day, breeding and raising kitten need "RM", nothing is free tongue.gif


Added on July 30, 2008, 10:57 pm
QUOTE(spidergirl @ Jul 30 2008, 10:45 PM)
My cats been drinking on tap water (I'm betting that's what my maid feed them). I try to let them drink filtered water some times. Not sure what can it contribute to. I'm making similar comparison of cat and us. What if we drink tap water? Ok, but sometimes not good la. But think back again, cats and humans are different in every ways. Vice versa.

Yes, should be cheaper in terms of combine shipping la. Means if the shipping cost for one item is US$30, the next item will reduced to US$13 and so on. Untung skit la. But no such thing as bargaining la. Ish.

I've PM-ed two sellers for a few mins before, about the total charges if I triple the item purchase. I would love to buy one for trial, would be nice if I can have a few of you guys to try out with me..who knows it actually really works.
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ada kena kastam tax tak benda ni? nanti kena tahan jadi satu hal lah... because i heard my friend pun mencari sesuatu to kill fleas.. so i tengah recommend lah dekat dia ni...

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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jul 30 2008, 10:32 PM)
Can cats and kittens drink tap water?
errkk if you have filter at home better give the filter one.. else the boil one... your cat is your pets right, so treat them like a pet, not in the wild.. blush.gif

tap water is not clean... even if we drink it, akan kena something kan...
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jul 30 2008, 11:01 PM)
Eh ye la, biggrin.gif Paksa mak beli filter. sleep.gif
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murah jak ya bro smile.gif panasonic brand ehehehe...
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post Jul 31 2008, 01:24 AM

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ya i also heard RC increase by 30% sad.gif and the shop said last time buy RC get 10% discount for member.. now when increase 30% get 7% discount tongue.gif

lucky i never teach or practice my adult cats to eat RC...

just that pregnant cat and small kitten i prefer RC brand...
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Jul 31 2008, 01:19 PM)
Another question, between RC and SP, Rc is more expensize? How much their (RC and SP) latest price for 10kgs? U guys bought 10 kgs? I buy 1-2 kg each time. The petshop timbang from the 10kgs bag.
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Science Plan by Hills Pet is veterinary recommend. Can say something like vet approve it's healthy lah ehehehe..

beside, if you see the range product by Science Plan are more towards special food, like for urinary, old cat, tooth care food, etc etc.

If you compare SP and other brands, SP has more varieties.

Even SP wet food is popular in vets, like whenever your cat is sick, the vet will always point SP wet food.


Added on July 31, 2008, 2:04 pmi have not check the new price yet. Science Plan price should be in between Iams and RC...

So its like Iams is cheap, then come SP, then the expensive one RC.

this 3 brands are well known in petshop aight smile.gif

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QUOTE(silentz @ Jul 31 2008, 03:32 PM)
i personally not reli like IAMS coz quite oily.

i prefer Science Plan n Royal Canin.

abt da price, last time i bought 10kg SC not more than rm150 if not mistaken, but now not sure whether SC got increase their price anot.

for RC 10kg, i think is depends on whic range, eg i bought indoor 27, old price abt RM170, new price is abt RM208. >"<
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SC you mean SP (Science Plan)? or other brand?
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No cats like their ears to be clean.. its very sensitive inside there. but we must clean it no matter what. you need to be very gentle, not too hard. if you not sure how, bring your cat to the vet, see they do the demo for you.

You can refer to this guide, got some pictures = http://www.thecatzine.com/cleaning-cats-ears/

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Aug 1 2008, 01:18 AM)
Good Morning cat people!

Hehe, all cats are soundly asleep by now, but the owners shouldn't tongue.gif

Wahaha... laugh.gif

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I'm not sleeping yet.. its 1:28am now tongue.gif

my cats are going to start playing soon.. around 2am - 3am.. this is the time they going to be active hunting each other... wanna join them? prepare yourself before they jump at your back and pull your "sarong" tongue.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(masta_hafiz @ Aug 1 2008, 12:03 PM)
i dont know laa the problem is smelly prob...but before this everything is ok...my cats berak di pasir yang i sediakan di depan rumah...everytime change the sand & if got some tahi my little brother will tanam dalam tanah...belum pernah miss buat kerja macam ini...that y i very dissapointed when my neighbour serang my parents when i'm not at home...if i'm at home nobody will disturb my family & pets...my neighbour saw me athome & they just stay inside their house,didnt go out pun...maybe my neighbour tahu yang mereka ada buat salah dengan saya...hehehe...today my fren will give me dog to put in front their house...then u know what happen... drool.gif  thumbup.gif
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hurrmmm that's because your cat is kucing malaysia right? 80% of malaysian neighbors will do this lah. happen every where.

you try put pure breed or any types of long hair cat... i tell you... i tell you... dont pray pray... your neighbor will be "eh come come poo and pee infront my house also can! tongue.gif poo everyday also can... come again come again". rclxm9.gif

my neighbor has no problem with cats, lucky me... because some of them do have cats too... most of them have outdoor cats. btw, i'm staying in apartment type of house... when i go jalan jalan at other blocks, i saw some put food and drink near stair case.

it make me happy thought, when i cakap cakap with one makcik, she said, "i don't really like cats, but i feed them, kesian also see the strays walk infront my door, so i put this food and drink near the stair case twice a day".
and i was like "walla" this makcik so good.

the same thing happened when my cat's "Sky" hilang last. Found him in another block. i hang posters with phone number. there's one family call me up, saying they saw Sky at top floor of block A, they thought it was their neighbor door, however they feed my sky at the staircase because he looks hungry.

until now i can't forget what they have don't to save my sky, although sky was actually lost and they thought it was nearby neighbor cat, they still feed him. and the best part, i received so many calls about him, and they even help me to catch sky.

i was wondering, if at other place, i think people will take him and sell at the petshop.
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Aug 1 2008, 11:43 PM)
Just wash your hand a.s.a.p.. But for me, no problem. Coz my cat will shake its head then some of the spot on got on us.
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then you put it in your mouth, just like what the girl in your avatar did tongue.gif just kidding laugh.gif
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they said eye discharge like in most persian cats are the nature of them.. they are born to be like that.

persian breed is the well knows as cry like a baby tongue.gif because all persian breed has eye discharge which is normal.

why? most of the and the vet said because they have flat nose tongue.gif some say bulu kena mata.

some believe when DLH or mix breed cat has eye discharge because of that cat is mix breed, not coming from good genetic, etc.

that is the reason why, breeder do not like mix breed, because they sometimes produce abnormal cats.

i ever saw people mix persian and DSH... the outcome, 1 fluffy DLH kitten, 1 beautiful semi long hair kitten.

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1 almost nice DSH with flat face like her father sad.gif too bad, her nose and lower lips alignment abit moving to the left side sad.gif like cacat lah. and her eyes like crying everyday.

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my "Mia" the DLH mix persian has watery eyes too. but the good side is she clean her self smile.gif. the bad side is sad.gif she is the mix mix type and she suffer for small lung problem which make she sneezing, sesak nafas, and loud breathing sound.

another one last time, before not eye discharge, but after accident (fall), the cat start to have watery eyes discharge. vet told me, some of the small things inside your cat cannot be repair because of the accident. they may gone by itself, or else will be like that forever.
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QUOTE(sweetsnoopy99 @ Aug 2 2008, 12:31 PM)
today is my monthly checkup for my cats, but since i have a new kitten shall i bring them to the vet also, or just keep them at home and take the mother and the father?

shall i checkup the kitten also or no need?
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my vet never want me to bring the new born to the vet tongue.gif they are not even 1 month yet right?

vet said can easily get infected by virus/germ if you bring them out. their body is not strong enough, not even vaccine.

i normally will bring the mother to the vet when her kitten 2 months old. then i bring all family.

you only need to go to the vet if your mother cat need vaccine (due date coming), so better don't skip vaccine smile.gif but if it is only for check up, you can skip it for another 1-2 months. she will be ok, unless something weird happen.
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QUOTE(sweetsnoopy99 @ Aug 2 2008, 01:18 PM)
This is a story happened to me yesterday, and from that moment till now i hate that mamak stall, i was sitting in mamak stall chilling and chatting with my class mates and another friends, then suddenly there was a stray cat which i saw her near the mamak stall and she looked so starved,so since it was late night and i no shops still open, so i just gave her a last cat food i used to have it in my friends car just in case to feed any stray cat i might found... i call it emergency cat food,just in case if i found a cat which i cant take her home to feed,or starved cat or any case like that, so lucky i found that food, then i gave her the food, and she eat and eat and i just  scratch her head and neck for while and sit next to our table and after 2 min i looked and i didn't found her, but i felt so satisfied that she at least will not spend the night starveling....she eat (science plan) rclxm9.gif  heheheh it is like food from heaven for stray cat tongue.gif ......anyway after, we set for another hour and on the way back,since we parked our cars on the back,and while am going back,suddenly i just looked at the back the guess what, i saw the mamak stall guy throw a hot water into the cat to make her not to come there again, it is really hot water,i just go there i  told him why u do this, then with a very cold heart he said this cat always come near their  to eat food,  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  what da F**K happened to people..... come on come on for god sake u can just scared her with any voice or just throw a small amount of rice or chicken to her to make her go away, or just even do (wshhh wshhh) sound so she can just go, but no need to theow a water on her, he just counting doing his cleaning dish work and don't even care about me, and then i just tryed to looked for the cat, and she was horrible i tried  to catch her at least to send her 2 vet in early morning but she just keep hissing at me and hissing at me , then she just run away.... and today just now  30 min ago one of my friend he said that he saw the cat is sleeping under the tree and when i came and tryed to help she was already passed away,come on cats will scared from cold water, but this guy throw a hot water which is even it might cosed a 40% burn to a small boy , but it is just killed the cat, what da hell happened to this world, what da hell happened to the human in this world...........
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geesshhhh! I will curse that shop! crazy... kesian that cat sad.gif pity, have to die in that way sad.gif so sad...

i wonder, mamak stall normally muslim right? if yes, i think they are lake of muslim knowledge. doh.gif
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QUOTE(spidergirl @ Aug 2 2008, 01:47 PM)
Damn, animal cruelty's everywhere. Hmm, is this around Putra? I hope its not Darussalam, so gonna give them a lecture! shakehead.gif

The term 'Mamak' is refer to Indian Muslim. Usually workers working in these restaurants are either Muslim or direct import from India (mostly non Muslim). So you'll never know actually.

As far as we concern, there is NEVER a religion that ever supports animal cruelty, be it Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, etc. I'd say its more of lack of moral value and social conscience.
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yea lack of moral value and social conscience. being muslim they should know that:

One of the Prophet Muhammad’s closest companions was given the name Abu Huraira, Arabic for “the father of the kitten,” because he always carried a kitten with him and a number of traditional stories of the prophet show Muhammad encouraging people to treat cats well.
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macam kena cakar ke? cats suka main guna kuku, kadang2 tercakar antara satu sama lain. pernah nampak my cat kadang2 ada macam bengkak then ok after that.

else infection, hopefully tak involve ulser.. ouch!

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QUOTE(XiaoDan @ Aug 3 2008, 10:57 PM)
Anyway, I wanna share something about Feline Lower Urinary Tract Disease, please ensure that your cats are free from this disease.

Feline Lower Urinary Tract Disease is a range of problems that result in a cat's urethra (the tube which transfers urine) are blocked by crystals, mucus and fibrin, making it painful, difficult or IMPOSSIBLE to urinate.
 
  This disease can be caused by stress, incorrect diet, neurological problems, infections, dehydration and other health problems. They can also be the result of not cleaning the litter box often. As cats are very fastidious, they will try to "hold on" (tahan kencing) rather than squating in a dirty litter box. This encourages bladder problems.

  In the past, formulated cat biscuits and cat food that were high in minerals like magnesium and pH were also blamed. But today, premium cat food manufacturers are aware of the link, and have adjusted their products. One very early symptom of this disease is that your cat will try to do his "business" outside of his litter box. This isn't an act of naughtiness or agression. The cat simply thinks that the litter box is to be blame for the pain caused when he tries to urinate. The poor cat tries to avoid the pain by avoiding the litter box.

  Other symptoms include crying when using the litter box, depression, lack of appetite, vomiting and lethargy. You may also feel a certain resistance or swelling in the tummy region as the bladder is too full but unable to empty. Male cats have a longer, narrower urethra which causes them to be more susceptible to such disease than female cats. A blocked urethra causes toxins to accumulate in the bloodstream, damage the kidney and kill the cat within a day or two.

  If your cat tries to do his "business" outside of the litter box, and it's not because the litter box is too messy or dirty to be used, play safe and take your cat to the vet immediately for checkup.

Anything that you don't understand about the above disease, feel free to ask me or you can search the web for more info. Thanks and have a nice day!  blush.gif
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long time ago, my male cat get this Urinary tract disease.. but early stage. now he's ok already.. that time he was 4 months old.. few weeks after makan ubat, he's doing good smile.gif vet show me how it look like under the telescope, yes can see that crystals - very good looking crystals ehehe but its hurt badly!
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Aug 4 2008, 12:53 PM)
Have u guys' cats showing these symptoms :

- vomit undigested food (looks like kibble food soaked in water)
- swollen in the stomach and the stomach feels hard to touch


Added on August 4, 2008, 12:53 pmOwh, just to share here : I just got FURminator for my pets yesterday!! biggrin.gif
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there are lots of things that cause vomiting:
-like over eating.. eating too much until the stomach full.
-disease or parasites.
-if the cat is in kitten age, it may be possibility intestinal parasites, such as roundworms, tapeworms
or coccidiosis, which occur because of food sensitivity/allergies. sometimes i can also be common or normal for kitten to vomit.

but when you mention hardly to touch your cat stomach and he/she is vomitting, then i guess you really need a vet for check up. It might be something else, it might be serious.
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QUOTE(Redrider @ Aug 5 2008, 05:16 PM)
thanks for the info.. i tot royal canin got many type. so which one is suitable for my 9 month old persian cat? sorry i noob about all this thing..  blush.gif
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Every vet has their own opinion, it is up to you how you want it to be. Another thing, it is up to your pocket on how much RM you want to spend. I'm afraid if you over budget, at the end of the day you blame the cat of making your bankruptcy tongue.gif

Yeap royal canin got different type. Have you ever realize that, there is kitten 34 and kitten 36? they are slightly different. The kitten 34 seem to be found in UK. the ktiten 36 seem to be found in US. Kitten 34 seem to be a little cheaper than kitten 36. kitten 34 hard to get in KL, but kitten 36 is everywhere.
well you can feed other good brands beside RC too.. like iams, science plan (a type of brand that recommend by most vets).

9 months you can actually change the food from kitten to adult food already.

I have seen kitten eating adult food since born tongue.gif and believe it or not they are much more heavier and bigger than my cats. You may or may not follow this, because it is up to you, other people cat may survive and become healthier with types of food, others may not.

Just to add, i remember, last time my male kitten get bladder stone (crystal) when eating whiskas and friskies. So then i change the food to iams, and all that stones/crystal gone baby gone. but other people kitten eating the same food and now still running here and there for 2 years already. Moral of the story, different cats different luck smile.gif

Follow the proper way is good, what i meant is, kitten eat kitten food, and adult eat adult food.

Considering your kitten is not overweight. If he/she is overweight, you can change the kitten food to adult food. Why overweight? lack of exercise and play. normally happen to a kitten that spend life in a cage for to long or no friends to play.

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