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RPG [PC] Diablo III, Release Date: Whenever it's finished :p

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Cheesenium
post Jul 5 2011, 05:09 PM

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[quote=khelben,Jul 5 2011, 04:09 PM]
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What? Now Blizzard are rushing things already?

Sure ActiVision punya pasal.
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Activision wat.

They rushed it out and in the end, it's just diablo 2 in 3D where you pay RM250 for it.
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post Aug 1 2011, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Fatimus @ Aug 1 2011, 04:39 PM)
And cannot be played offline

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/08/01/diablo-3...played-offline/
I will be spamming pre-order the under the wildfire rage of PC Gamers *rawr*
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Thats gonna save me RM250 to RM300. Wont be getting this shit. No offline mode, sorry, i dont have access to constant internet connection all the time.

And now, there is an auction house for you to buy and sell stuff with real money, really? Just because you want to take a small cut from each item you sell, Blizzard? Thats really how desperate you are?

Blizzard isnt the old Blizzard i used to know. Its just another greedy Activision company.

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post Aug 2 2011, 08:19 PM

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The problem with Diablo 3 is, it has Kotick's ass all over it as it has greed written all over it.

Have Blizzard actually show how does the story progress? Any decent gameplay videos that is released recently that is not a compilation of a few 20 seconds videos? Is Blizzard actually talking much about the new crafting and runes system?

As far as i know, Blizzard is extremely tight lipped about all those things where it seem like they not spoiling the surprise or they barely innovated anything, hence nothing much to show. There are barely any information about those. Instead, they just keep talking about their "cash cow" Auction House and the idea of being online all the time with quite a lot information released at the same time. It made them look like they just want your money like any other Activision company. Especially after a long media blackout.

Not to forget the crap that Rob Pardo have spit out today:

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It just pretty much show that, either Blizzard have lost touch on how to make a non-MMO game (SC2 interface feels extremely like MMO. Its not bad or horrible to use, just a bit annoying) or they just dont care if they lose a few sales from those angry internet people. Fine by me, as Torchlight 2 or Grim Dawn will be released sooner or later. Not like SC2 have been amazing in any way. Forgettable campaign storyline and demanding multiplayer with barely any innovation.

My version of Pardo's quote would be:

" I want to play Diablo 3, but it has to be connected to internet all the time. Well, there are other great RPGs that do not require internet connection all the time to play instead."


Added on August 2, 2011, 8:21 pm
QUOTE(kEazYc @ Aug 2 2011, 07:22 PM)
Everyone can buy any original game at any cost, its just that people doesn't know how to budget their money well.
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RM250 for a game is incredibly overpriced, as other developers rarely charge this much for a game.

I bought games from Beth, THQ, EA and so on. None of them are this ridiculously expensive.

Seriously, what if i add another RM50 to my RM250 and i could get both Mass Effect 3 and Skyrim together, than only one Diablo 3? It's about the value and fun you are getting at the end. Mass Effect 3 and Skyrim would definitely be more fun than Diablo 3 alone. One have a great storyline to end the trilogy while the other provide the open world game play that looks really great so far.

Blizzard isnt the same as before, as they are being pretty greedy and arrogant these days, thanks to the great board of directors of Activision's influence.

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post Aug 2 2011, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Aug 2 2011, 08:46 PM)
Mana ade RM250? unsure.gif
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Starcraft 2 was RM250 when it first released. That is not cheap.

QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Aug 2 2011, 09:20 PM)
...the once great developer shall tumble...and lies in its ruins.
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2010, Infinity Ward tumbles.
2011, Blizzard tumbles.

QUOTE(duckhole @ Aug 2 2011, 10:00 PM)
i will play it for sure. only poor people cannot afford to pay 80$ for a good game thus complain hard.
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What are you evidence that i do not have the $80 to buy Diablo 3? I have pre-ordered a few of the Q4 games so far which is probably gonna cost more than a copy of Aussie Diablo 3. Also, if the supposedly poor people who cant afford the game, shouldnt they complain about the price? Instead of the Auction House and being 100% online sicne if you cant buy the game, these things are completely irrelevant?

I am not buying Diablo 3 on the basis of my ethics. If you, a developer are not focusing on the gameplay and innovation of the title, and at the same time, talks a lot about the money, the auction house and dont give a damn on what people actually want, why should i buy your game? Blizzard dont care about what i want (ie: i hate being online 100%, and playing SC2 offline temporarily due to disconnects feels a lot more punishing than having Steam starting on offline mode) , nor want to attract me to buy their game, instead of Grim Dawn, Torchlight 2, Skyrim and so on.

It feels like going to a club and only see people who want to have one night stand with you and forget everything about it after, as oppose to people who can have a decent friendship with.

I am buying original games from certain developers/publishers because some people does try (very hard) to bring their games to the next level with new ideas, mechanisms and gameplay. Not just wanting me to pay that $40 to $60 and forget about me. Again, why should i buy a Blizzard game if Blizzard have been so soulless recently with all these nonsense?
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post Aug 2 2011, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(angeldothack @ Aug 2 2011, 10:34 PM)
Reading this thread with great interests since D3 news update came out, and I felt like I need to ask this, did the SC2 really failed? Just curious..
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It's a failure for me because its not fun playing it, unless you give up other games and only focus on Starcraft.
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post Aug 2 2011, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(radkliler @ Aug 2 2011, 11:01 PM)
The game did not fail in any sense of the word.

Granted that there are places that are slipshod, most notably Bnet 2.0, but it is still successful.
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Starcraft 2 is great for those who are spending 2 hours each day to play the game, but for those who are also playing other games, SC2 is just a waste of time and money. It is because SC2 is not a game, it's a sport. Speaking of sport, i might as well pick up a real sport or go to a gym than putting so much time in one game that brings nothing other than entertainment for most people.
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post Aug 3 2011, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Aug 3 2011, 09:44 AM)
Fussy aren't you?

Even if you don't like the laddering in SC2 you can still have heaps of fun off its custom maps, which only grows more and more by the day.
May I suggest Star Battle or Battlecraft for starters?
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You can say im fussy, but SC2 isnt that great anyway. Sure, it's polished, but is it fun or satisfying to play? Not for me. With the amount of time commitment it requires, i might as well pick up another sport, than be that guy sitting in a room playing SC2, just as Kotick planned.
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post Aug 4 2011, 10:01 PM

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The reasons that they have giving are just terrible excuses to cover up their greed.

What happen to the more dark and gritty graphics, and being replaced by WoW's ugly kiddy friendly graphics? They cancelled it because they want to develop the cash cow Auction House?

Look at all their recent media quotes, they are pretty much concentrating on the Auction House, because that will be something that will bring them the most money in the long run. Not to forget about the intention to rush out D3 by the end of the year.

At the same time, they did not really explain the new 3 Passive skills that have replaced the Rune system. How about the gameplay with all the puzzle like set pieces? These things are never explained properly.

Thats not the Blizzard i know. Thats something that is done by Activision.

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post Aug 4 2011, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Aug 3 2011, 08:29 PM)
Wow... I've been reading all the negative sentiments building up in this thread in silent but this is totally new. It's all fine & dandy for me that you declare to the world how you're gonna avoid playing this game & criticize all the features that have been revealed so far. Blizzard is no longer the same post-W3? Blizzard will go kapoot in 2011? StarCraft II is major phail, plain, boring, has high skill ceiling, requires major time investment to get good at (tic tac toe, anyone?)?

Meh... this is nothing new but to actually push all the blame to the rest of us who are really looking forward to the game? What next?

I wonder if anyone has ever heard of the phrase "one man's meat is another man's poison"? rolleyes.gif

Older? I guess you're assuming that all of us who had seen the days of WCII are on the same side as you eh? Oh well, haters gonna hate anyway.
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It is because Blizzard is not the same old Blizzard that i love in the 90s. The new Blizzard feels like a cold heartless corporation. Their games no longer evolve, as all they want now is just money due to that fact that Activision's shareholder just want to rip as much profit as possible. IMO, games should be constantly innovating from the previous game, not remain stagnant. Did Starcraft 2 innovate? Did Diablo 3 actually changed something?

No, they did not iterate, as all i see so far, its the same thing i have played 10 years ago. I played SC1 countless times since 1998, when i got SC2, i stopped after 2 months of laddering. Why? It is because it's the same thing i played in 1998, without anything new at all. Except some minor tweaks. I have no problem if it's a fun to play time sink (like the incredibly grindy NFS World), but in the end, i did not have any fun with SC2, compared to any games i have. It's just SC1 in 3D for me.

Blizzard fanboys can argue with me as much as i want, but at the end of the day, SC2 just do not have the same addictive experience i had or changed from SC1 much. It's like how Black Ops is similar to CoD4, Transformer Dark of the Moon is similar to War for Cybertron or the first Guitar Hero to the last one before everyone got fired due to Activision's greed. I did have fun the first time round, but getting the largely the same thing again in the sequel after sequel is just get really old for me.

I am expecting the same thing again with Diablo 3's gameplay largely similar to Diablo 2. I made my decision of not buying Diablo 3 mainly because of that. My other reasons of not buying Diablo 3 are:
1. The game is incredibly expensive for the content and game time it will provide me
2. Auction House, as legalizing gold farmers is just completely unethical.
3. Always online, because my internet isnt the most stable connection out there. And why should the internet connection stability affect my ability to play online?

QUOTE(talexeh @ Aug 4 2011, 02:29 AM)
While you have your own reasons to demand for offline singleplayer mode, I'm afraid that the same discussion had been widely debated prior to the release of StarCraft 2. Now, before I go any further, I'm gonna use a few games as reference in the later part of this post, so don't go "TF2 is a FPS noob!" on me.

I'm neither a Blizzard employee nor a diehard fan but I can kinda understand why Blizzard is doing... what they're doing. Let's take for example what happened to StarCraft 1. Korea hijacked it as their national e-sports & Battle.net was left to rot while competitive games were being held in iCCup instead. What about WarCraft III? GarenĀ­a anyone? Notice any similarity here? Pirated games. As you can see here, Blizzard totally lost control of their intellectual properties & this of course translates to lost revenue that they would have accumulated if only all these games were actually original copies. All these factors point to the need for an online DRM to be implemented, which we've seen in StarCraft 2.

Put yourself into Blizzard's shoe & let me know what you would do.
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I dont mind the idea of needing to login to their servers sometimes, as long as they could provide a reasonable offline mode. At the same time, Starcraft 2's DRM is incredibly annoying. Lets say i temporarily lost connection to the internet and i manage to complete an achievement, the game will not record the achievement i got when i reconnect to the internet seconds later. Just to clarify, i am not an achievement whore or anything, it just feel like they are punishing you for not connected to their servers. Not to forget that when you connect back to the internet, it takes longer than Steam to connect back to Battlenet.

On Diablo 3's case, why cant they give an offline mode for Diablo 3 with the offline characters could not go online? Sure it's far more fun to play with people, but it does not hurt if one chooses to play offline alone, knowing that they will never be able to take the characters to go online.

Piracy, you can never prevent piracy, as Gabe Newell said: "Pirates are just customers that you havent met yet". If the game is popular enough, pirated servers will appear sooner or later. Have you even heard of Alternet for MW2, where they even have dedicated servers for pirated copies? Or those pirated Ubisoft games works better than original? Instead of punishing the genuine owners by forcing them to go online, why cant Blizzard attract the pirates to buy their games, like those SC2 time cards?

Ultimately, Blizzard just want to control the contents, your access to your game and your save on their servers, at the same time, hope you use their Auction House to provide them a long term steady income, not because they want to prevent pirates, people hacking their characters or modding their games. Thats just some PR talks to cover their ass.


Added on August 4, 2011, 10:36 pm
QUOTE(Timemuffin @ Aug 4 2011, 10:06 PM)
technically all of Blizz's product now is turning them into a cashcow
SC2 = Esports

i think they are holding back all the info till blizzcon or the press embargo had yet to be lifted.
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Even in Blizzcon, there are barely anything new about their games. Maybe some ugly CG videos using their in game engine or just a couple of bad gameplay videos.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Aug 4 2011, 10:36 PM

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