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aiman04
post Jul 5 2008, 07:18 PM

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I think I've read somewhere about Velodyne VX-10 MK3, it's not as good as the CHT series.

Thanks Htkaki for the info, I'm also into musical, I might checkout the Paradigm. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kvn1080 @ Jul 5 2008, 06:18 PM)
HTkaki Bro:
What is your commend on this :-
velodyne vx series 10" subwoofer?

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VX-10 MK3 is no way near CHT-10R. It looks ugly to me too. No remote. Lacks low end grunt and power. It is the lower end model from Velodyne. Erm, I feels that my Klispch floorstanders do a better job than this. No pun intended and no offense to those owners here sweat.gif

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I think I've read somewhere about Velodyne VX-10 MK3, it's not as good as the CHT series.

Thanks Htkaki for the info, I'm also into musical, I might checkout the Paradigm.  thumbup.gif
Paradigm has been around for some time. It does produce very good subwoofer. Only thing is that it is a bit 'low profile' here. Dont expect to see it being reviewed by UK mags as they are more bias towards European products esp homeland goods.

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post Jul 6 2008, 09:09 PM

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I think i have tested once on the Vlodyne VX series. HTKaki heard about it when i returned it back after been con to accept it . The bass is a total failure. It doesnt sound like bass at all. I was dissapointed with the shop i bought with because for a pro shop like that how can they give stock like this for exchange with a sub that cost more than RM 2K.

still pissed inside..
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post Jul 6 2008, 11:12 PM

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seriously speaking

with the price & performance for CHT-12R

no need to bising liao lo...

just tekan $ n pay lo rclxms.gif
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post Jul 7 2008, 12:51 AM

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Rogers ASB-100MkII subwoofer is good or not?
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post Jul 7 2008, 07:13 AM

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From what I've heard, Rogers subs are not recommended at all. Maybe that explains the cheap price, but certainly not good bass. smile.gif
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post Jul 7 2008, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 7 2008, 07:13 AM)
From what I've heard, Rogers subs are not recommended at all. Maybe that explains the cheap price, but certainly not good bass. smile.gif
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Spot on. Only churns out 'whommpa, whoompa, sort of those bass that you hear from Ah Beng's car', but cant complain since it is cheap. Good thing doesnt come cheap sweat.gif

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 7 2008, 07:13 AM)
From what I've heard, Rogers subs are not recommended at all. Maybe that explains the cheap price, but certainly not good bass. smile.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jul 7 2008, 08:58 AM)
Spot on. Only churns out 'whommpa, whoompa, sort of those bass that you hear from Ah Beng's car', but cant complain since it is cheap. Good thing doesnt come cheap  sweat.gif
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ya, selling for RM500 only, can nego summmore laugh.gif
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post Jul 7 2008, 05:34 PM

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Wharfy SW150:
Specification
Driver 10" 205mm
Amplifier Power 150W
Input Sensitivity 200mv/75W
Frequency Boundary position: 35Hz-110Hz
SPL Crossover: 35Hz-85Hz
Crossover Range: 6x10Hz
Dimensions 330x330x370

&

Specifications for the Mordaunt-Short MS 309 i Subwoofer

Frequency Response 35Hz to 200Hz
Power 175W
Drivers 1x10" (255mm) Long throw woofer
Cross-Over Type Active - variable between 50Hz - 200Hz
Cabinet Dimensions Height 370mm
Width 370mm
Depth 370mm
Weight 15kg

so Wharfy SW150 Or MS 309i which is more recommend for
my budget Rm1300~Rm1500????? nod.gif

anyway,
Thanks for all Sifu......(htkaki) nod.gif laugh.gif notworthy.gif

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In terms of value for money and high rating, SW150 is the one. Both are very good subs for the money. But, forking a few hundred more for MS is a minus point here. But, it does look better than SW150.

I would go for SW150. At this price, nothing come close to matching it. But, I like long-throw woofer blush.gif
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Jamo Sub 300 Subwoofer

Why no one considering Jamo Sub 300? Cost => $1699

The SUB 300 is equipped with a powerful 10in long-throw woofer unit housed in the unique slotted port cabinet and a BASH® amplifier capable of delivering 300W of peak power. The powerful amplifier, increased cabinet size and unique design make this subwoofer capable of delivering both a higher sound pressure level (SPL) and a flat frequency response, down to 28 Hz. All delivered, of course, with maximum musical fidelity and a flat frequency response. The SUB 300 is equipped with a front-mounted volume control for easy adjustment.

Key Features
• 10" Woofer
This subwoofer features a powerful 10" throw woofer.
• Port Cabinet with BASH Amplifier
This unit is housed in a slotted port cabinet and includes a 300W BASH amplifier.
• High SPL & Flat Frequency Response
This unit's powerful amplifier and increased cabinet size make it capable of delivering both a higher sound-pressure level (SPL) and a flat frequency response (down to 28 Hz).
• Control
It also feature's a flat front-mounted volume control to facilitate adjustments.

Award:
Stereo & Video, Russia Jun 2008

Jamo SUB 300 takes the first prize in Stereo&Video’s comparative test

Sub 300 is a universal model representing wide opportunities. This subwoofer accurately adds bass on both floorstanding and bookshelf speakers’ ranges.

It is a highly musical product. SUB 300 is delicate to music, delivering punctual support to Home Cinema systems at quite moderate prices.

It shows that Jamo gives careful attention to all its acoustic systems - whether it is a subwoofer, floor-standing speaker or even iPod dock-station.


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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jul 7 2008, 10:20 PM)
In terms of value for money and high rating, SW150 is the one. Both are very good subs for the money. But, forking a few hundred more for MS is a minus point here. But, it does look better than SW150.

I would go for SW150. At this price, nothing come close to matching it. But, I like long-throw woofer  blush.gif
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Me too, long-throw subs have more impact than down firing ones but to be frank, for the money SW150 is considered a value buy unless TS can stretch the budget a bit and go for Velodyne CHT-10R
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jul 7 2008, 10:43 PM)
Me too, long-throw subs have more impact than down firing ones but to be frank, for the money SW150 is considered a value buy unless TS can stretch the budget a bit and go for Velodyne CHT-10R
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People around me tells me the downward firing subs are better than the front firing sub. Reason being is that the downward firing moves more air than the front firing one. The other reason is that the front firing usually moves air right in front of you-thus the name. They explained to me that this is not necessary a good thing. They said that the you can feel the downward firing subs even more than the front firing.

Basically, down-firing and front-firing subs are just different designs. There should not be significant performance difference except that down-firing subs tend to have more flexibility in terms of placement.

The down-firing units seem to be more solid, perhaps it is the lower center of gravity

The down-firing driver does provide some physical protection.

In ported subs, the difference is down-firing ports. Can do a very effective job of suppressing port noise. Eliminates port noise complaint

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post Jul 8 2008, 07:17 AM

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I like long-throw subs too. thumbup.gif

This nice! drool.gif

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QUOTE(ALPS2008 @ Jul 7 2008, 11:30 PM)
People around me tells me the downward firing subs are better than the front firing sub. Reason being is that the downward firing moves more air than the front firing one. The other reason is that the front firing usually moves air right in front of you-thus the name. They explained to me that this is not necessary a good thing. They said that the you can feel the downward firing subs even more than the front firing.

Basically, down-firing and front-firing subs are just different designs. There should not be significant performance difference except that down-firing subs tend to have more flexibility in terms of placement.

The down-firing units seem to be more solid, perhaps it is the lower center of gravity

The down-firing driver does provide some physical protection.

In ported subs, the difference is down-firing ports. Can do a very effective job of suppressing port noise. Eliminates port noise complaint

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i agree front firing or downfiring sub with the same spec driver, enclosure size, amp n right placement will have the same performance... i dont have the money to diy two identical front n down firing sub to do an experiment... but i do believe what my subwoofer designer told me.. i will take his word over any ah seng , ah cai or ah huat hifi salesman... i have tried my friend's cylinder svs in sg the impact was great ... thats how i fall in love with svs.. i am sure there r many more down firing subs out there with great impact too

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post Jul 10 2008, 07:17 AM

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I have decided for a Paradigm DSP-3100. Sorry I can't join the Velodyne club. icon_rolleyes.gif

After weeks of research, now I can sit back and relax, and see if I can get any cheaper at the AV Fest. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 10 2008, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 10 2008, 07:17 AM)
I have decided for a Paradigm DSP-3100. Sorry I can't join the Velodyne club. icon_rolleyes.gif

After weeks of research, now I can sit back and relax, and see if I can get any cheaper at the AV Fest. biggrin.gif
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good ah paradigm3100? .. i know velodyne very keng.. but paradigm dsp3100 havent tried b4.. hopefully during av fair can try
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post Jul 10 2008, 09:06 AM

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bro aiman...any good comment or ur point of view about this paradie? instead of velodie?
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very compact wor....and claim can go down to 24Hz thumbup.gif compared with my velo 25Hz sad.gif
my wife always stares at my big black box and shakehead.gif tongue.gif
how much u get the quote?

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QUOTE(ALPS2008 @ Jul 7 2008, 11:30 PM)
People around me tells me the downward firing subs are better than the front firing sub. Reason being is that the downward firing moves more air than the front firing one. The other reason is that the front firing usually moves air right in front of you-thus the name. They explained to me that this is not necessary a good thing. They said that the you can feel the downward firing subs even more than the front firing.

Basically, down-firing and front-firing subs are just different designs. There should not be significant performance difference except that down-firing subs tend to have more flexibility in terms of placement.

The down-firing units seem to be more solid, perhaps it is the lower center of gravity

The down-firing driver does provide some physical protection.

In ported subs, the difference is down-firing ports. Can do a very effective job of suppressing port noise. Eliminates port noise complaint

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Actually I found out down firing sub is more consistence in the db accross the sub freq response. I try to calibrate my Paradigm PDR-10 using my DD-12 manual tuning with mic. With front firing position, a slight changes of mic direction will see a dip of 3db. I put 3 door stopper and point my PDR-10 downwards and it solve this problem. The freq response is much better across the range from 30hz to 100hz. With an equalizer, I manage to tune my paradigm within 3db from 25hz to 100hz.

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