People around me tells me the downward firing subs are better than the front firing sub. Reason being is that the downward firing moves more air than the front firing one. The other reason is that the front firing usually moves air right in front of you-thus the name. They explained to me that this is not necessary a good thing. They said that the you can feel the downward firing subs even more than the front firing.

Basically, down-firing and front-firing subs are just different designs. There should not be significant performance difference except that down-firing subs tend to have more flexibility in terms of placement.

The down-firing units seem to be more solid, perhaps it is the lower center of gravity

The down-firing driver does provide some physical protection.

In ported subs, the difference is down-firing ports. Can do a very effective job of suppressing port noise. Eliminates port noise complaint

     

I have decided for a Paradigm DSP-3100. Sorry I can't join the Velodyne club.

After weeks of research, now I can sit back and relax, and see if I can get any cheaper at the AV Fest.

Actually I found out down firing sub is more consistence in the db accross the sub freq response. I try to calibrate my Paradigm PDR-10 using my DD-12 manual tuning with mic. With front firing position, a slight changes of mic direction will see a dip of 3db. I put 3 door stopper and point my PDR-10 downwards and it solve this problem. The freq response is much better across the range from 30hz to 100hz. With an equalizer, I manage to tune my paradigm within 3db from 25hz to 100hz.

  Finally settled for Velodyne

Rick is very friendly. I knew few of them there as they were the distributor fro PSB and Velodyne, which I did get from them yrs ago. Tks for getting the quote for me. RM3.6K quote is from A&L 

In JB shop

i just got myself a new sub and wondered if it can be placed on some sort of shelf/raised platform/base to enable easy cleaning of the foor underneath considering the strong vibrations from the sub.

its a CHT-10R.
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Look at this thread...scotty was from Hiway....
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/667325/+30
Sometimes, I wonder someone from the shop owner/ppl always will kipas their product.......always said...good good good.        take the possitive technical info only...try to filter luh....

so, we must be careful.......guys.....don't know who is who....anyways...always trust your own audition......or unless you are really know the guy / forummer....      

off course will go to the pages 2...go down...a bit...read other forummer comment la....

       

Ok aiman, will try to squeeze my budget to get this 12R baby... At least I spend more this time then in the future no need to worry so much on upgrading 

Thanks for your advice aiman.

Congrats on your new vibrating bolster Callmevil! (I hope you're not married ).

Yup, I was quoted for less than $300 too from SVS.

Guys, at around RM2k, the Velodyne CHT-10R can be considered cheap sub, good bass. Now those monsters like REL, SVS, Paradigm Servo and Velodyne SPL/DD series are in the category expensive sub, excellent bass.

A dude at the AVS forum tested a whole bunch of subwoofers and then rated and ranked them. Check out the rankings below. The PB13 Ultra, the box version of the PC13 Ultra is several rungs above the Velodyne DD-18 which I belive blows the SPL-1200 right out of the water

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9164136

" Velodyne SPL 1000R, RM3,900 " from http://sites.thestar.com.my/audio/classads.asp?s=audiomart

Anybody bought this ?

Giving the size of that thing....sending back broken item to them for replacement will break you for sure

Using Y connector will give you up to 3db more. I don't think you even notice but its there so why not use it. Plus even the manual also encourage you to use it. Won't cost you arm and leg

Bro the Y splitter is on the sub side and not amp. Your amp will still output whatever it can whether you use Y splitter or not. If you use Y adapter on the amp side (like the one from Audioquest), you'll need 2 cables to utilize the sub stereo input. Either way, the latter surely will cost you more money

Taken from Velo manual...
"If using the LFE output from your receiver, plug the single cable into the "L"- LFE input or for more signal use a Y connector and feed the signal into both R and L input"

I'm not sure what they meant with "for more signal" but I've read somewhere in AV forum that the maximum gain by doing so is not more than 3db. Like I said previously, you may not even notice. Even I myself don't even bother about the increase but my cable already come with built-in Y splitter so I use it.

If the argument is to save money from buying the Y splitter then by all mean please do so. Heck I will also use single cable without the Y splitter if I don't already have my current cable

Hi,

Just glanced thru' n now c got an active SvS forummer contributin on de wonders of tis brand ah.. gud gud..

Enjoy..
Dirtrun

39" in height. Massive sub and sure score low on WAF factor. Moreover, need a really huge room to place it.

Eh, the 10R is peasant sub... You'll need at least 12R to be to get the elite-o-meter to work.

I'm seeing people discussing SVS Ultra, REL Strata II, Paradigm Servo 15 here. Now those are Level 8-9 in the elite-o-meter reading.

Hi,

1. SvS has been ard for a long time now - more than 5yrs.. I tink.. dunno abt velodyne thou'

2. Its only here tat SvS is mentioned wif de likes of REL .. in fact REL is way way more exp then SvS. SvS started as a specialist sub producer tat can deliver for HT fans but wif a lo price - at least lo in de US la , it went online sales only to cut costs in dealership fees n so forth.. n de North Americans lapped it up n if not mistaken sum sgporeans brought one or 2 in n then d craze started.. to be fair if u dont counter shippin cost into d picture, d pb10 is quite affordable n it is a decent entry sub..
Go into AVS or any HT forums to check n u ll see tat SvS is not de premium brand but more like best bang for buck order..

Just my 2 cts
Dirtrun

Haha,

There are ways ard payin top dollar for shippin... but it encounters a lot of trust, faith and help from ppl - sumtimes thru strangers even.. tats where de faith part cums in.. kekeke
Cant really blame de shippers cos they weigh quite a fair bit.. my pb12+ is 110lbs for sub alone ; plus packagin I tink it was 60kgs, it even came wif a palette base stuck to de box.. I tink d cylinders r lighter but still bulky as hell..

Performance is mainly for HT .. I wouldnt go so far as to say tat SvS is great for music.. passable maybe but not great.. I know a guy who bought 2 pb10s for stereo line in use n listens to classical but I tink he sold them cos he didnt quite like it... like I said previously if wanna musical sub get de sealed units..

Cheers
Dirtrun

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Added on September 12, 2008, 4:24 pmCompact box would mean a huge amp is needed n tat in turn would not be cheap.. unfortunately if wan perf.. u nid to go to a certain price point..

I dont quite get de convenience in rc's in subs.. granted its convenient but I hv set up my SvS once n never even off de back switch - power off thru mains only so de rc would be redundant after the first settin up/calinration.. but then again I guess I m less fickle n live wif its performance..