HornyAngMoh, aint that expensive that you think. It is 'surprisingly affordable'

Anyone know whats the price for DSP3200? And how's the performance like comparing to 12Q?

10Q very muchi..

Price for 3200 not sure ( should be a bit cheaper then Velo ) but performance it is better then 12Q can dig 22Hz vs Velo 12Q 25Hz. But then Velo got remote control. Velo is China made ( quality ? ) vs. Canada made Paradigm. So which want u choose?

Boss, most of B&W models are made in China and majority of well known brands are made there too. As long as there is good quality control, it should be okay.

the sad things is i heard there is a different in quality. i think is d QC n d ppl in production line problem...
Any1 have this experience before? can share?

Thank you Tauke Horny!

Aiyoh! Me no Tauke lah ( Actually just a 'salesman' ). Paiseh! Paiseh! He! He! So which sub r u choosing? Or better still buy from HTleg!
The Klipsch RW-12d very poisonous!

No yet bro.. Still in the midst of deciding between DSP3200 and RW-12D. Velo is now officially out of my radar.. hahaha.. Both 3200 and 12D are quite powerful, 3200 can dig 2hz deeper than 12D. But can't compare much without the price! As for 12D, I heard there is a port noise issue? I'll leave it to HTleg to commend on this.

Just came back from CMY Penang, got myself REL Strata 5, Rosenut stock clearance for RM 3550... Last time normal price RM 5k plus and my budget was 3.5k so was thinking of getting the T1 but now..i got it! The Storm 5 is RM 4420 very tempting but Strata 5 more compact and suit my listening room..cant wait to get listen to Starwar Pod Race.....

How much is this baby?

Bro, I ll try to check 3200 for you by asking my friend for help.

Port noise issue? Yes, but negligible esp for movie. Music fan might not in favour for this sub. Anyway, Klipsch is renowned for HT speakers.

Here's a portion of the review by Sound & Vision :

Klipsch RW-12d

What's in the Box?
• Driver: 12 inches
• Rated amplifier power: 350 watts continuous
• Cabinet design: front firing, ported
• Finish: black ash
• Controls: level, EQ mode (Punch and Depth emphasis settings at 60 and 30 Hz, respectively, and Flat), variable low-pass crossover (40 to 120 Hz in 5-Hz increments), crossover bypass, variable phase (10-degree increments), power, auto-on/on.
• Ins & outs: dual line-level inputs, dual speaker-level inputs

How Big Is It?
• Dimensions (WxHxD): 14.5 x 19.3 x 21 inches
• Cabinet volume: 3.4 cubic feet
• Footprint: 2.1 square feet
• Weight: 49 pounds

Setup
At first glance, this sub looked like somebody had ripped off all its controls. The only one one the back is a power switch. Closer examination revealed a small cursor keypad and display on the top front of the cabinet. Unfortunately, it covers only the basic control set, and I found it a pain to use. On the upside, you can store three different global settings. This is convenient because, for example, you might want less bass for music and more for movies. There are no line- or speaker-level outputs, and I thought the sub's plastic grille cover looked kind of flimsy for a macho subwoofer. The low-pass crossover reaches up to about 95 Hz, so blending with satellites should not be a problem.

How Low Does It Go?
• Bass limit (Flat setting): 20 Hz at 86 dB SPL (maximum 10% distortion)

How Big the Bang?
• Average maximum output, 25 to 62 Hz (Flat setting): 108 dB SPL
• Maximum output (Flat setting): 115 dB SPL at 50 Hz

How Did It Sound?
Saint-Saens The RW-12d did a reasonable job with the lower half octave and nearly handled the 16-Hz tones. The upper half octave had a reasonably balanced response, without any undue peaks. The sub's tonal quality was a little boomy, however, and it sometimes blossomed into resonance when hitting certain notes. It delivered lots of good bass but occasionally some not so good bass.

Linkin Park The RW-12d sure didn't shy away from this tough track, jumping in with loads of low bass and doing a great job at soft levels. It tackled the lowest notes and played them, not with the best fidelity, but with lots of energy. Mid and upper frequencies were more controlled, but the tonal quality was sometimes muddy. The snap in the bass line was obscured by some port noise, so the power of the note was there, but not always the enunciation. When really cranked, distortion was evident.

Superman Returns This sub is a real barn-burner. It cranked out loads of low bass and easily made the bric-a-brac rattle, handling the various rocket engines, airplane dives, and explosions with plenty of sonic power. On the other hand, that output was clean only at lower levels. At high levels, the breakup was easy to hear when I soloed the sub. With the satellites playing as well, however, much of this clutter was masked. So in real-life application (who besides a reviewer listens to a subwoofer by itself?), the faults are less apparent.

Godzilla The bass track on Godzilla is not a finesse track -- it is an all-out let's-move-air track. The RW-12d was not put off by the challenge. When the Big Guy stomps, this sub shakes. It rumbled my rafters in the underwater sequence as the submarines closed in. When pushed, it hit the wall with some serious "blatting," but up to that limit, this sub was impressive with big-time LFE material.

What's the Bottom Line?
The RW-12d does a good job at moderate levels, with a healthy amount of low bass and good upper-range tonal balance. When cranked up on music, however, it overreaches and can't hold it together, yielding powerful but often muddy bass. This is passable for movies, but not for music. Thus, I liked this sub a lot for movies, where it really shook the room, but somewhat less so for music. I found the keypad and display to be a pain to use; I consistently punched the wrong buttons and longed for a couple of simple knobs. The Klipsch RW-12d was good but not great. It had some impressive moments in which it really surprised me with the quantity of its bass output. But it also had some awkward moments in which the tonal quality just wasn't up to par.


Abt the price of CHT-12Q

waiting for the new baby owner to FR

We sld be getting the FR today.

fuyoh....buy why not the RT-12D?

Bro, this baby needs abt 2 months to arrive upon order

Anyway, here's an excerpt from 'The Secrets of Home Theatre and High Fidelity' December 2006 review by Ed Mullen :

Conclusions

I liked the triangular design of the RT-12d; it helps the subwoofer appear smaller, and it tucks into corners nicely. The front display panel controls are intuitive and convenient to use. Fit and finish is fine, the grilles are sturdy, and the floor interface design is effective and quiet on all surfaces.

The digital control interface has several useful features for dialing in the subwoofer, and the auto-EQ Room Correction routine is easy to use and consistently improved the in-room frequency response. The digital BASH amp is cool-running and efficient.

A flatter anechoic mid-bass frequency response and a less aggressive roll-off profile would have improved transient response and latency characteristics, but these issues are largely ameliorated under in-room use by the auto-EQ feature. Distortion-limited output is above average at the deepest test frequencies, and excellent over the mid-bass region. Output compression behavior is simply outstanding, with virtually no deep bass compression exhibited at the maximum sweep level.

HT performance in a mid-size room is very good; the RT-12d has a muscular character befitting its Klipsch heritage. When pushed past its safe output limits, the subwoofer always remains well behaved and does not bottom out or exhibit audible overload artifacts.

Music performance is good, with the RT-12d displaying adequate rhythm and pace, decent octave-to-octave balance, and acceptable pitch preservation at anything short of live jazz club playback levels.

Overall the Klipsch RT-12d offers solid value with rugged good looks, an advanced digital user-interface, an impressive auto-EQ system, and balanced performance on movies and music.

How much is the RT-12D?

At least rm4k, i guess.

It is around RM5K for RT-12d, which slightly more than Velo SPL-1000Ultra and a lot cheaper than SPL-1200Ultra. Taukeh mpyw, you intend to shake your neighbour's house foundation

Keep in mind that sub can't be compare just based on specs. You need a sub with well controlled lower freq so that it wouldn't sound muddy. Normally ported sub is not as musical as fully sealed sub and placement would be more difficult.

Ah! I agree with u totally! Ported is good for HT & placement is very imp. In my case my sub end up behind my back. Need long sub cable ( 10m ).