Anyone using Klipsch Synergy Sub12? Any idea how good this sub is and where can I purchase it and how much?

I got a qoute for JBL ES250P 12" sub for Rm1800 which on paper is so much better than the Klipsch. Anyone using the JBL ES250P that can give some comments

Anyone using this sub? I am looking for a new sub to replace my old B&W sub.

ES250P
12" (300mm), 400-Watt Powered Subwoofer

The ES250P powered subwoofer is just the ticket for bringing your home theater system to life. It performs like a pro, with technology developed by the JBL Professional division. Equipped with a tried-and-true JBL PolyPlas™ woofer, the ES250P delivers unsurpassed low-frequency performance. Special effects in your favorite movies are loud and clear, without unwanted distortion or boominess. A powerful amplifier delivers up to 700 watts of peak power. LFE- and line-level inputs provide maximum connection flexibility. And convenient level and crossover-frequency controls, and a phase switch let you tailor the ES250P's performance to your room's acoustics.

SPECIFICATIONS

General
Amplifier Power (RMS) 400 Watts
Peak Dynamic Power 700 Watts (the Peak Dynamic Power is measured by recording the highest center-to-peak voltage measured across the output of a resistive load equal to minimum impedance of the transducer, using a 50Hz sine wave burst, 3 cycles on, 17 cycles off)
Low-Frequency Transducer 12" (300mm) PolyPlas™
Inputs Line-Level, LFE
Low-Pass Frequency Adjustable from 50Hz to 150Hz
Frequency Response 25Hz – Low-pass crossover setting
Dimensions
(H x W x D) 19-3/4" x 15-3/4" x 16-7/8"
(502mm x 400mm x 428mm)
Weight 43 lb (19.5kg)

Thanks, but can you elaborate a bit more.

How much is this baby?

Below are some subwoofers rated 5 Stars by What HiFI that is price below 400pounds. Anyone here using any of the subs below and what is the price in Malaysia?

B&W ASW610

For - Fabulously agile and well-extended bass for its size; good finish; small and well-equipped
Against - Nothing

As reigning best Buy within its price class, the B&W ASW610 is the target its rivals have to aim for, but as we’ve seen in several tests of late, it’ s a difficult target to hit.

That’s partially because it’s surprisingly small, at just 31cm high – but it’s also because its diminutive form disguises a formidably powerful and terrifically dynamic design, its 200w amplifier controlling the excursions of its 25cm Kevlar/paper drive unit with a martinet’s fervour.

Spin a movie, and depth and drive are never in doubt, the B&W thundering through The Dark Knight with an absolute authority that belies its modest size.

However, most of its rivals can go loud and deep: the ASW610’s edge lies its lethally effective blend of power and poise, muscle and musicality.

It can deliver bass with subtlety and expression, its speed on the attack and its tonal differentiation ensuring Santogold’s L.E.S Artistes fairly zips along.

It’s a genuine all-rounder and no mistake.

Velodyne Impact-12

For - Formidable bass depth for its price; well-equipped
Against - Musically, not the best in this test

There ain’t no substitute for cubic inches, or so our American cousins would have it – and in subwoofer terms, here’s your proof.

American brand Velodyne can readily deliver great bass from a small enclosure, but with its Impact-12, it’s adopted a more traditional approach.

This is a big ol’box designed to deliver big ol’ bass, the cabinet being some 12cm deeper than the Tannoy TS-12, even though it’s fitted with a similarly hefty 30cm drive unit.

In action, the Velodyne sounds reminiscent of one of its forebears, the CHT-12R. It serves up no-fuss, max-fun bass, its extension and sheer sofa-shuddering weight eclipsing even the excellent B&W ASW610.

However, switch to music listening, and there’s a subtle lack of fluidity to its approach, a tangible slowness that hinders the attacking drive of Audioslave’s Revelations.

That makes this fine sub more of a movie than a music classic.

Wharfedale Diamond SW250

For -Impressive control and weight

With the raft of movie big hitters swamping the Blu-ray shelves it’s time to ponder your system’s sonic capabilities.

So, if your budget/midrange speaker package is in dire need of a bass injection, then the Wharfedale SW250 is more than happy to oblige. This superb sealed sub produces an explosive but controlled low-frequency hit, perfect for the action delights of Iron Man.

Its curved cabinet ensures superb rigidity, enabling the 250-watt amp to deliver a powerful, tight and articulate bass. It can rock your room with impressive weight but it’s also not adverse to caressing you with more subtle rumblings.

Epos ELS SUB

For - Speedy and precise; great detail; carries a tune
Against - Can trip out at high volumes

The Epos is part of the company’s superb sub-£1000 surround package, the ELS3 5.1. It delivers the sound with such speed and precision, however, that the result is arguably more impressive and insightful than any of its rivals can achieve.

Detail resolution is terrific, which helps to build atmosphere in the low-key movie action scenes, and when the big explosions happen the Epos doesn’t hold back. Push very hard and you can trip the internal protection circuit, but this only happens at higher levels than we imagine most people will ever use.

It could be an issue, though, if your room is very large or you listen at extreme volumes. Apart from that there’s little to complain about.

This is a musical, detailed subwoofer that carries a tune better than most, packs decent muscle and has the agility to ensure that it’ll work well with a wide range of systems. Factor into the equation excellent build and a highly competitive price, and it’s clear it’ll be a pretty tough proposition to beat.

i got a quote for Velodyne CHT-12Q for Rm2900. the other one I am considering is Klipsch RW-12d from HTkaki.

just want some opinions from the expert in here which is a better woofer.

TQ

is it? how much is it in KL?

so I guess rm2900 is ok due to shipping charges. What I need now is expert opinion comparing Velodyne CHT-12Q vs Klipsch RW-12d. I use it for both music and movies...mostly movies i think.

My old B&W sub is not working well any more so I need a replacement soon.

How I wish I can audition both before making the decision.

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Added on April 26, 2009, 2:59 pmPrice is about the same for both the CHT-12Q and the RW12-D

Spec wise I think the RW12-D has more power. But both of these lose to the JBL ES250P which have 400w RMS continuos power and 700w peak and price much cheaper too...only Rm1800 for a 12" sub. Now i am really confused!

This post has been edited by lightning69: Apr 26 2009, 02:59 PM

oh..so you have sold the JBL ES250P before too. Since you mentioned that its not as earth shaking as the Velo, I think I can forget about the JBL then. Thanks htkaki.

So now its between velo and klipsch only.

Yep, jwyj is right. the price is from King's Audio Miri.

Wanna buy together ans ask for some discount? hehehe

not sure about that one.

someone just recommend me the REL T1. Great reviews. Now I am so confused!

Velodyne CHT-12Q or Klipsch RW12-D or REL T1

The problem is that there are only 1 or 2 shops that sell hi-fi and home theater equipments in Miri and both only have a handful of subs around if any. I cannot audition the Klipsch because there is no dealer in Miri. The CHT-12Q also only on order basis. I might be able to listen to REL T1 once i got back from offshore, but there is no way i can do a comparison between the 3.

Nvm...i will go try out the REL T1 first. It's got some very interesting features or rather technology that is just so unique. Even the looks is so different. The dual connection...one for LFE and the other for high level input for direct connection to amplier with volume control for each input is really interesting.



REL T1
• 300W rms high current Class AB amplifier
• Sealed enclosure with heavy-duty 10” down-firing(250 mm) ULT active driver and 10” forward-firing(250 mm) ULT passive radiator
• Variable crossover 30-120 Hz
• Neutrik Speakon™ high-level input for direct connection to amplifier(cables included)
• RCA low level input, .1/LFE input with separate volume control
• Over current, over temperature and under voltage protection
• Dimensions (WHD): 14.2 x 15.75 x 16.5 in. (361 x 400 x 419 mm) - (height includes feet,depth includes grille)
• Weight: 40 lbs (18kg)

Price: RM2950

This post has been edited by lightning69: Apr 29 2009, 04:56 PM

Thank you htkaki.

Looks like the REL T1 is more of a music sub than a HT sub. I wonder if the 10" active super long throw driver with the passive driver can go really loud or not?

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Added on April 29, 2009, 5:32 pmI just got a quote for that price. Have you tried this sub before?

This post has been edited by lightning69: Apr 29 2009, 05:32 PM

One thing I notice about the REL T1 is that is has twin 10" driver...one active downward firing and a passive forward firing. I can understand that the active one is powered by the internal 300w high current amp but what about the passive one. Is the Passive forward firing driver just a piece of rubber driven by the energy of the active driver or is it a driver driven by the power of the main AV receiver that is connected to the high level input of the T1?

One thing I really like about the Klipsch RW-12D is the yellowish alluminium driver. Its beautiful. The overall looks of the RW-12D is very nice but I have not listen to how it sound. I am sure it can sound really big but how does it perform with music?