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Spanish Clubs Real Madrid Club de Fútbol, FT: Real Madrid 4 - 0 Rosenborg

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post Nov 18 2008, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(gry @ Nov 18 2008, 07:19 AM)
real really missed robinho. i dont know why real camp look really mess at this moment. Look at Barcelona, they only take a few month rebuilding their team. They bought really good players, they got really decent players and they also got very good managers. They look strong at all department.

Look at real madrid rite now, defender look shaky in all areas, attacking look weak plus without rvn summore, i think major changed need to be make soon.
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Nothing personal against you but ppl like you really piss me off. It's like it's the 1st season you're watching football or something. All teams go through bad patches. We've only lost twice in the league and according to you we are a mess. Barcelona have been doing well but they also don't have the same injury problems we have. Try taking out Eto'o, Messi, Puyol out of their team and see what that does to them. Get some perspective will ya.

There's just been so much unnecessary pressure on the team from the media. Arsenal aren't doing too well now. MU are also 5 pts behind the leaders. Yet you don't see the word "CRISIS" being brandied around Wenger's and Ferguson's necks.

QUOTE(whoopa @ Nov 18 2008, 07:29 AM)
just a question heinze is playing centerback ?
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Because Pepe (our best CB incidentally) is injured. And Metzelder just can't seem to cope with the pace of La Liga. If you ask me I would rather have him dropped completely cause his form this season has been total sh*t. He has single handedly caused us more goals scored against us than all the other defenders put together.
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QUOTE(whoopa @ Nov 18 2008, 09:29 AM)
why dun use heinze as a LB ... he is pretty solid there ... CB dun think he is tat good in that position ...
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marcelo better than him. blush.gif

but some time marcelo is too rush.. and keeping growing his skills... he seems adapt robinho + carlos skills..
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QUOTE(zeronehza @ Nov 18 2008, 01:57 PM)
marcelo better than him. blush.gif 

but some time marcelo is too rush.. and keeping growing his skills... he seems adapt robinho + carlos skills..
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Marcelo isn't showing enough promise for me. At this rate he won't be good enough to play for Madrid. His positioning is piss poor and he makes some really elementary mistakes which you would not expect of a player playing at the highest level. I would not mind for us to go and get a new LB when the window opens.

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post Nov 18 2008, 04:28 PM

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why is schuster using heinze as a CB? we have ramos.. he has good pace to cover up when opponent made a counter attack.. instead of heinze.. he also did alot of mistake that cost us alot of goals... yawn.gif seriously, i dont like heinze since the day one... whistling.gif
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i guess marcelo, heinze, drenthe were at same level.. not so much interesting.. they are too rush.. eager to score a goal.. but their finishing are very bad...

schuster really rare to put ramos on CB, we can hold position for LB. .we have torres, what we need is to fix RB(backup Ramos) and CB, need new replacement..

sell metzelder.. send canna back to napoli.. make money from them biggrin.gif

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post Nov 18 2008, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(gry @ Nov 18 2008, 07:19 AM)
real really missed robinho. i dont know why real camp look really mess at this moment. Look at Barcelona, they only take a few month rebuilding their team. They bought really good players, they got really decent players and they also got very good managers. They look strong at all department.

Look at real madrid rite now, defender look shaky in all areas, attacking look weak plus without rvn summore, i think major changed need to be make soon.
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Real really missed Di Stefano, Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo, Butragueno and all the top Liga players that had played for us. Look at Barcelona they took ONLY TWO YEARS to find out that Rijkaard, Ronaldinho, Deco and several other players are not functioning anymore. We, on the other hand, took a freaking LONG 10 weeks to find that we are in trouble right now. They bought really "good" players like Hleb and Keita who were the major factor for their win each week, while we are doing "shit things" by trusting the same players that won La Liga easily last term. Not to forget that we also bought a "crap" from Holland that did nothing since his arrival.

For god sake, cut us some slack will ya!!

QUOTE(sprix @ Nov 18 2008, 08:56 AM)
we r facing injuries problem... that the problem...  sweat.gif 
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Injury+defensive problem.. Even when all the defenders were available, they seem to do the same silly mistake at times. I don't want to repeat the same problem again and again but if we did sort this thing earlier maybe we can face less suffer in the future.

QUOTE(verx @ Nov 18 2008, 03:15 PM)
Marcelo isn't showing enough promise for me. At this rate he won't be good enough to play for Madrid. His positioning is piss poor and he makes some really elementary mistakes which you would not expect of a player playing at the highest level. I would not mind for us to go and get a new LB when the window opens.
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Marcelo is a promising youngster that showed some great improvement to be a good right wing back. Yes he can help out offensively, yes he has a better chance than anybody right now to be the next R.Carlos but, lets face it, he's a defender who can't defend very well.

I agree with you that he's not good enough to play for Madrid now. But if you realize Marcelo seem to make that mistake almost everytime he's playing. Maybe somebody in the squad should guide him to a proper way of defending. He's a good player and I have faith that he can do well in future. That said, I'm not opposing to the idea of bringing a better LB to Bernabeu.
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Funny? Does anyone likes him? I think he just cant wait to seek for a job.. icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(gto87 @ Nov 18 2008, 07:38 PM)
Marcelo is a promising youngster that showed some great improvement to be a good right wing back. Yes he can help out offensively, yes he has a better chance than anybody right now to be the next R.Carlos but, lets face it, he's a defender who can't defend very well.

I agree with you that he's not good enough to play for Madrid now. But if you realize Marcelo seem to make that mistake almost everytime he's playing. Maybe somebody in the squad should guide him to a proper way of defending. He's a good player and I have faith that he can do well in future. That said, I'm not opposing to the idea of bringing a better LB to Bernabeu.
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You know I used to keep telling myself that. That he's still young and he will improve. But after watching Rafael come on for MU against Arsenal and put on a really impressive showing (and I'm not just talking abt the goal he scored) I started to have my doubts. He's about the same age as Marcelo but he's way more accomplished a fullback than Marcelo. And the thing with R Carlos was that you always knew he was special. I don't see that with Marcelo. I could be wrong; Marcelo could be a late bloomer. But I'm not holding my breath so to speak.
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Where is Pepe? and why dun bring back Garay from Racing then....
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QUOTE(woundxp @ Nov 19 2008, 12:19 PM)
Where is Pepe? and why dun bring back Garay from Racing then....
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post Nov 19 2008, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(woundxp @ Nov 19 2008, 12:19 PM)
Where is Pepe? and why dun bring back Garay from Racing then....
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Do we really have to keep repeating ourselves? Go chk back the last page.
Garay has already played more than 5 games for Racing so he can't play for another La Liga team this season.
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But lucky higuain form tis season is incredible to cover up some of the misfortune of real......he certainly can turn up to be a great player in real considering his relatively young age....... nod.gif nod.gif

how is the news regarding arshavin??permanent or loan deal? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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Well. Higuain is improving in an impressive rate. He's phenomenal in the match against Malaga. Like I said it's a blessing in disguise. He's a monster in the making!! (sounds like a fanboy huh?) Am I too ambitious?
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higuan has potential to be a monster... we can see how improve he is since last season.. to me.. he is the next raul.. what we need now is RVN junior.. who can smell the ball n be at the the right place and right time to score goals... maybe this is just a a long term plan..
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messi, aguero, lavezzi, tevez, higuain..........i think they can be called talents.......

i think real madrid has probably the not so good one among those 5......still, better than nothing.....

i agree with verx, the defenders and the midfielders have lots of space seperating them.......that's where it hurts the most......
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Just a heads up. Astro will show our next match against Recreativo delayed at 5:30am (Sunday morning)
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Zarate, I've been watching this guy for so long. Long enough to know that this guy can be with us but not as a resolution to our problem now. I'm not saying he's all fruitless but we have to wait at least one year for him to be a regular starter. I rather go for Benzema or Arshavin so we can solve this misery quickly and also to bring the best out of Pipita. I'm saying this because our management's top priority task is to solve this problem and they are hoping winter transfer as one the major solution.

Yeah, you can still say Zarate is proven to be good. So why not? Because, to say it simply, we're lacking of a people who can build the attack. Zarate have a very good finishing but we need a player like Benzema or Arshavin who have better off the ball positioning (which can connect better with Guti and Sneijder), who can stretch the opponent's defense line with their runs, who can lift up the pace of our attack and can be very useful on counter attacks (Arshavin is so good at this). Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I see we're lacking of week in week out (apart from defensive line). If the management want to see a drastic change, I strongly suggest they can land either Arshavin or Karim ( if they get both it would be perfect tongue.gif )




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QUOTE(kevraul @ Nov 20 2008, 11:37 PM)
messi, aguero, lavezzi, tevez, higuain..........i think they can be called talents.......

i think real madrid has probably the not so good one among those 5..... For time being
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Here you go... biggrin.gif

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I think for now Benzema would be a long shot. I'm pretty sure he'll stay until the end of the season. Arshavin on the other hand we should just go and pull the trigger already. Either he or Zarate would be fine but I think we have a better shot at bringing Arshavin. Both have the ability to be direct and go past players which is what we lack in our attack now. Someone to pass the ball to when we are up against tight defending units. We really only have Robben (who is always injured) and Drenthe (who has very little end product).
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is there any genuine interest from Real on Zarate ?

well i bet Arshavin is on his way to Bernabeu. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Nov 21 2008, 03:42 PM)
is there any genuine interest from Real on Zarate ?

well i bet Arshavin is on his way to Bernabeu.  biggrin.gif
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I think there is. AS did an article on him. He's just one of the options though. What do u make of him?

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