QUOTE(low98944 @ Jun 27 2008, 01:29 PM)
I don't think it is cheating. Said for example, I am running SLi now, if I willing to let one of the cards to run PhysX and another to run rendering, or I purchase another cheap GC to run PhysX, in that case they can't said nVidia is cheating on 3DMark Vantage cause this is what my GCs will do in the real game that support PhysX. nVidia enable GC to use PhysX is just providing another cheaper way for gamers to play their game instead of purchase an expensive PhysX card.
PC without CPU is next challenge to GC manufacturers.

QUOTE(Radeon @ Jun 27 2008, 02:14 PM)
wah,
this kind of things how are you going to justify "suppose"
it is because of innovation and challange that we get better and better performance system,
i don't see 3D mark got any stand to say anything as the IT industry does not solely belong to them.
Doods... You guys are not getting the point... 3Dmark tests the CPU because!!! and only because CPU plays a important role in gaming. It could be a bottleneck if you are not having a powerful enough CPU. That's why it is included inside the benchmark. So, better proc will give you higher 3Dmark score. BUT! The CPU score is now masked by PhysX giving false reading of the CPU score and thus giving false score altogether.
Do you get better fps now with the new PhysX driver? Not that much right? Because not many games support it too for now. That's one way of showing that the scores are tempered with and it's not exactly a breakthrough if comparison with the score.
True.. I'm not fighting will you guys about the PhysX is good thing. We're talking a different topic altogether. I love to use PhysX with my 9600GSO as well for the games that supports it. For now it doesn't take over the CPU role but just games that support PhysX so that kinda sucks.
And I'm just saying that the score is now tempered with and not considered legit. Thus, Futuremark needs to come out with a new set of tests to counter this.
1. 3Dmark Vantage is being compromised because of CPU score
2. PhysX being runned by GC and no need of using an extra overpriced card
It's 2 different things. I anti no 1. But I and pro with no 2.
Now at Radeon, 3Dmark doesn't own the IT industry yes.. But the benchmark is one of the most reputable synthetic test that there is around for now. =/ So 3Dmark is here to stay for a while. It's just that people are going around boasting about that 20k-30k increase in CPU score that annoys me as though their computer have some turbo boost upgrade.