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post Jun 20 2008, 07:38 PM, updated 18y ago

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GeForce 177.39 PhysX-enabled driver now available : http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=291319
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Promised since the day Nvidia announced Ageia's acquisition, PhysiX support for GeForce graphics cards is finally here with the new 177.39 driver. This new GeForce release, sourced by the guys @ TweakPC, is dated June 16 and comes with support for the GeForce 9800 GTX, GeForce GTX 260 and 280 graphics cards and the nForce 750a SLI and 780a SLI IGPs. Please note that you'll need the 8.06.12 (or above) PhysX driver installed too.

To get the new GeForce 177.39 driver just give 2Many a shout or two...

- GeForce 177.39 (Windows XP 32bit)
- GeForce 177.39 (Windows XP 64bit)
- GeForce 177.39 (Windows Vista 32bit)
- GeForce 177.39 (Windows Vista 64bit)

- PhysX driver version 8.06.12


Source: http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?sho...s=20496&catid=3


please post ur boosted performance of nvidia cards here drool.gif

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Nvidia promised the PhysX driver will support 8 series as well, when rolled out. Well, this is not the case wink.gif
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for 8 series? Quantum Effects is a physiX engine in 8 series aa?
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88 serise got?
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So does this means physix supported for 8 series or no???Hmm better try it out myself..
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This DRiver only support GTX260 and GTX280 only

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IIRC, the card can onli process either in 3d modes or physics calculation and not both




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noob question here : can install physix driver to non physix engine card?!
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QUOTE(myke @ Jun 20 2008, 09:53 PM)
noob question here : can install physix driver to non physix engine card?!
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Why don't you give it a try and let us know the result laugh.gif
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The PhysX driver only works on G92 and GTX-200 chips for now.

Yes, you can install it but it won't work.

After installing this, you'll notice a very very big jump in 3DMark Vantage CPU score because the Physics Test will be using the GPU which is a lot faster. (Performance difference can already be seen when running Folding@Home)
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Whoa I'm impressed lol biggrin.gif Huge leap in Vantage scores

177.35 drivers: P18370 (650/1350/1150)

177.39 drivers: P21889 (stock)

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downloading for my G92 8800gts now to see if it can be used doh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Jun 20 2008, 10:47 PM)
downloading for my G92 8800gts now to see if it can be used doh.gif laugh.gif
if GTS can use, for sure GT also can use. LOL~

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The PhysX driver supports the 177.35 WHQL drivers as well - tested and scored P22k+ too. Sticking with the 177.35 for now - seems to play better in Crysis with less stutters.
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Jun 20 2008, 10:47 PM)
downloading for my G92 8800gts now to see if it can be used doh.gif laugh.gif
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Let us know if you smell anything funny coming out of your CPU laugh.gif
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only new cards build in physix
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G80, G92, G94 and GTX200 supports PhysX CUDA. It's just that the driver is not ready yet.

Nice jump in score there. 16K CPU score to 44K CPU score. This will promote the use of SLI even more since we can use 1 card as physics processor and another to display the graphic.
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QUOTE(jinaun @ Jun 20 2008, 09:21 AM)
IIRC, the card can onli process either in 3d modes or physics calculation and not both
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Ultimately the card should be able to do both at the same time.

QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 20 2008, 09:58 AM)
The PhysX driver only works on G92 and GTX-200 chips for now.

Yes, you can install it but it won't work.

After installing this, you'll notice a very very big jump in 3DMark Vantage CPU score because the Physics Test will be using the GPU which is a lot faster. (Performance difference can already be seen when running Folding@Home)
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Right now my question is, does it work outside of 3dmark, and what kind of performance hit to the graphics portion of a game would it cause. It's hard to say whether running both physics and gfx on the GPU simultaneously would be a net gain.
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Jun 21 2008, 01:48 AM)
Right now my question is, does it work outside of 3dmark, and what kind of performance hit to the graphics portion of a game would it cause. It's hard to say whether running both physics and gfx on the GPU simultaneously would be a net gain.
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There will be a performance hit because the graphic card will have to render more effects and calculates the physics. This will be useful for those games that are limited by processors.
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177.39 doesn't work for my 8800GT G92. I'm downloading and gonna try Nvidia PhysX from here:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/ageia_8.04.25_whql.html

Edit: Nevermind, I think this won't work too.

Supports only AGEIA PhysX processors and software runtimes


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You mean you can't install the driver?

NVIDIA GeForce 177.39 will only install (On default) on these graphic cards:-
- GeForce GTX 280
- GeForce GTX 260
- GeForce 9800GTX

To use it on other cards, you'll need to modify the .inf file in the driver.

EDIT: You'll need PhysX driver version 8.06.12 to get the PhysX to work.

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Thanks for the info but I'll wait for the official one. Kinda hate Vista driver issues when you modify it.

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The driver is very stable for me. Using Vista32. I can't use the PhysX though, since mine is a G94.
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Instead of using 3Dmark vantage, can we use the 3dmark06 to test whether the physic is working or not?
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Yea, I'm curious to know it too since 3DMark06 has AGEIA PhysX support.
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post Jun 21 2008, 09:08 AM

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omg i tot the update will be for all g92 chips card as well
my 8800gts is getting pwn by 4850 sad.gif


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It CAN be used for all the G92-based GPU.
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What game will use PhysX?
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Hmmm I've tried the physx rendering using software mode only b4 and I must say it was impressive......Just the ball hitting a piece of cloth and how the cloth react to the momentum.

Just hope nvidia can bring along support to 8 or 9 series for the physics rendering..
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anyone try benchmarking in games? i am still downloading. dont have physcX games ready. LOL...someone load ghostrecon 2 and turn on the physicX and see how? laugh.gif
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Hey peeps,

Most people dunno the NVidia GTX260 and GTX280 have native support for AGEIA PhysX.

Personally, if you want to see the beauty of AGEIA PhysX, try playing Clive Barker Jericho, and that was written a year back I think.
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the link for the driver to be used on all g92 cards...but only in vista 64 bits sweat.gif

http://rapidshare.com/files/123772943/177.....cards.rar.html


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i read some other forums noobs complaining they cant get things to work on their 8800GTS G80 or 8800 series. They never read that the initial release was meant for the 9 series and GT200. LOL... laugh.gif
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Yup, I was betting that Nvidia didn't lock their drivers but I was wrong. hehehehe
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i think i give up liao.... managed to install the 177.39 driver with modded ini file.... but failed to run physics test on vantage doh.gif sweat.gif

but somebody in XS managed to do it on both 8800gt n g92 8800gts rclxub.gif

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I'm using 177.16 with nvidia physX. So far working far.
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why need to crack your head for something that doesn't meant to be for your card? wait a lil while, nvidia will release for other models. be patient.
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i think no improvement from older nvidia card ...
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the problem now is...can the card does 2 jobs simultaneously?
will there be performance hit if we use the card to render physics (with resource hogging graphics)?

there's no fully supported games as of now.
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So..for now only full support 3dmark vantage only?


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vantage is useless...it doesnt simulate real life gaming.
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jun 22 2008, 09:28 PM)
vantage is useless...it doesnt simulate real life gaming.
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yeah, but that is what nvidia do now..
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jun 21 2008, 08:28 PM)
the problem now is...can the card does 2 jobs simultaneously?
will there be performance hit if we use the card to render physics (with resource hogging graphics)?

there's no fully supported games as of now.
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AFAIK, currently only 3DMark Vantage and UT3 supports this PhysX module. Not really sure if GRAW supports this too. Anyone willing to try?
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Downloading It biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 22 2008, 11:43 PM)
AFAIK, currently only 3DMark Vantage and UT3 supports this PhysX module. Not really sure if GRAW supports this too. Anyone willing to try?
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you can have 1 nvidia card to render and another to do physics

of coz with the latest 177 drivers and the 8.06 physx

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QUOTE(jinaun @ Jun 23 2008, 12:32 AM)
you can have 1 nvidia card to render and another to do physics

of coz with the latest 177 drivers and the 8.06 physx
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Hohoho, this is where multi-GPU comes in. flex.gif

It'd be better if NVIDIA provides support for SLI-ing 2 different graphic cards.

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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 22 2008, 11:43 PM)
AFAIK, currently only 3DMark Vantage and UT3 supports this PhysX module. Not really sure if GRAW supports this too. Anyone willing to try?
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Is current software and driver literally support the 8/9 series? Im gonna try icon_idea.gif
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act this method has long been introduce by ATi.. but perhaps their team is a bit slow and NVidia is the one who make it real.. at last biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(SlayerXT @ Jun 23 2008, 02:43 AM)
Is current software and driver literally support the 8/9 series? Im gonna try icon_idea.gif
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Currently the PhysX Driver 8.06 only supports these GPUs:-
# 8800GTS (G92)
# 8800GT (G92)
# 9800GTX (G92)
# GTX 260 (GT200)
# GTX 280 (GT200)
# All GPUs based on G92 chips

Future support will be added for other cards that is CUDA-capable.

The NVIDIA GeForce 177.35 and newer already supports CUDA for other GPUs. It's just that the PhysX driver does not support those GPUs.

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PhysX supported by 8800GT also ka?!
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Yes, PhysX supports 8800GT. You can give it a try.

Currently, it only works for 3DMark Vantage and UT3 PhysX maps. Other games such as CellFactor still requires AGEIA PPU to enable physics. This will likely be supported in the future.
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ou..just download the PhysX by nvidia. but i it didnt detect any hardware. noob me.
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You must download the PhysX driver version 8.06.12. Older version won't be able to detect NVIDIA GPUs.
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I've dowloaded 8.06.25. the latest 1 is it?
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Is 9800GX2 ready support for PhysX ?
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QUOTE(hafiez @ Jun 23 2008, 12:24 PM)
I've dowloaded 8.06.25. the latest 1 is it?
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As far as I know, PhysX Driver 8.06.12 is the latest version. You can't download it from NVIDIA website.

QUOTE(stevenlys @ Jun 23 2008, 03:16 PM)
Is 9800GX2 ready support for PhysX ?
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Yes. Install a driver that supports CUDA and also the PhysX Driver.
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http://www.nvidia.com/object/ageia_8.04.25_whql.html
this is the driver or only the software?
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 23 2008, 03:37 PM)
As far as I know, PhysX Driver 8.06.12 is the latest version. You can't download it from NVIDIA website.
Yes. Install a driver that supports CUDA and also the PhysX Driver.
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Currently what driver ver. support PhysX?
175.16 SUpport? smile.gif Cause i found that the latest driver never support my H/W.

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What's your graphic card? You can install the new driver provided you modify the driver inf.

For more information, check the GeForce 177.35 thread in the Latest Update [Software section]. I've written a guide on how to modify the driver inf.
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QUOTE(stevenlys @ Jun 23 2008, 04:26 PM)
Currently what driver ver. support PhysX?
175.16 SUpport?  smile.gif Cause i found that the latest driver never support my H/W.
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I think 177.3x version or above supports PhysX.
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177.3X Can't Support 9800Gx2 sad.gif

Using 175.16 Nia..

So I Installed PhysX Also Useless Right?
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8800GT not supported also...how to mod the inf registry hah..
Or better to wait for the official driver tat can support physx for older cards
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It's working on my 8800GT what....

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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Jun 23 2008, 06:38 PM)
177.3X  Can't Support 9800Gx2 sad.gif

Using 175.16 Nia..

So I Installed PhysX Also Useless Right?
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175.16 should work since it supports CUDA. No harm installing the Physx driver. Just try it.
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i pening already...
Demonic, please chk for me. am i doin wrong sumwhere??
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QUOTE(hafiez @ Jun 24 2008, 12:12 AM)
i pening already...
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Dude.. your phyX isnt updated... it worked with latest one. 8.06.12 not 8.04.25
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oo..adeh la.. sorry.. i try download the latest 1...
googling the latest version..
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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Jun 23 2008, 09:47 PM)
8800GT not supported also...how to mod the inf registry hah..
Or better to wait for the official driver tat can support physx for older cards
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We just have to wait until July. For now officially only for G200 and 9800GTX. brows.gif
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There is a workaround to get the engine running on 9600gt, modify some inf files, but you take the risk, or wait a couple of weeks.

Read here
http://forums.techarp.com/graphics-cards-d...e-new-post.html
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Modifying the inf file does not work. The NVIDIA GeForce drivers already support but the PhysX driver does not support 9600GT yet.
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so if i install the forceware driver now and dun installl physx then thee effect is still same like using older driver right?
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 23 2008, 11:49 PM)
175.16 should work since it supports CUDA. No harm installing the Physx driver. Just try it.
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175.16 doesn't support CUDA~even 175.19 sad.gif
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QUOTE(D-Zire @ Jun 24 2008, 10:04 AM)
so if i install the forceware driver now and dun installl physx then thee effect is still same like using older driver right?
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Yes, it won't have PhysX support. There's not much software utilizing GeForce PhysX yet. Only 3DMarkVantage and UT3 PhysX maps are supported as of now.

QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Jun 24 2008, 10:37 AM)
Bro.. U Sure?
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I'm not really sure as I don't have a G92 or GT200 GPU now. So, I can't tell if it works or not.

Why don't you install NVIDIA GeForce 177.35? It increases performance in a lot of games.
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 24 2008, 11:00 AM)
Yes, it won't have PhysX support. There's not much software utilizing GeForce PhysX yet. Only 3DMarkVantage and UT3 PhysX maps are supported as of now.
I'm not really sure as I don't have a G92 or GT200 GPU now. So, I can't tell if it works or not.

Why don't you install NVIDIA GeForce 177.35? It increases performance in a lot of games.
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175.16 doesn't support CUDA~even 175.19 sad.gif
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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Jun 24 2008, 11:44 AM)
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Not Supported..  cry.gif


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Bad News For Me..
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How to install driver not officially supported by NVIDIA GeForce driver

1) Extract the driver EXE file to a folder.
2) Replace the nv4_disp.inf (for XP) or nv_disp.inf (for Vista) file in the folder with the file corresponding to your Operating System:-
Modded INF
3) Run the setup.exe in the folder.

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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 24 2008, 12:03 PM)
How to install driver not officially supported by NVIDIA GeForce driver

1) Extract the driver EXE file to a folder.
2) Replace the nv4_disp.inf file in the folder with the file corresponding to your Operating System:-
Modded INF
3) Run the setup.exe in the folder.
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Wow..

Is That Fine For My System?
Worry Later Currupt My System File And I Need To Reformat Whole System smile.gif

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There's already a few forumers doing that. It won't modify your O/S file system.
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Article from inquirer.
Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 24 2008, 01:09 PM)
There's already a few forumers doing that. It won't modify your O/S file system.
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Added on June 24, 2008, 1:39 pmWhere Can I Download The Moded nv4_disp.inf

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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Jun 24 2008, 01:36 PM)
Where Can I Download The Moded nv4_disp.inf
Sorry, Noob Here
follow demonic wrath's tutorial. u'll see the link. click on it. smile.gif

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i downloaded the inf from here : http://www.overclock.net/attachments/softw...sp_vista_32.zip and i extract it to a folder.den i copy tht nv_disp(2).inf to C:\NVIDIA\WinVista\177.39 ( default directory, i din change anything).den i click 'run as administrator' on setup.exe.

ok. it runs and install everything bla bla bla.den it ask me wan reboot system or not. i press YES. fine, rebooted.but then the 177.39 drivers was not installed. den i deleted my old 175.16 driver and repeated those steps again. cant work. fine.den i go to msconfig and prevented rivatuner from loading during windows startup. still the same. anyone can tell me wats the problem ? my steps? or my OS since i'm using vista 32bit service pack 1.
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Are you getting "System is not modified" when it asks you to reboot?

If yes, then download the driver again from here:-
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index....showtopic=19109
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 24 2008, 08:47 PM)
Are you getting "System is not modified" when it asks you to reboot?

If yes, then download the driver again from here:-
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index....showtopic=19109
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i din get anything weird.just tht after reboot, ntg happens even though installation was smooth. shocked me also.i used the have disk method tht they taught in forum.it gives me error.

tht driver is 177.35 rite? i downloaded it directly from nvidia.but i downloaded the inf from tht page u gave me.its not working either.i'm using vista 32 bit ultimate service pack 1. is it the service pack 1 fault?
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 24 2008, 09:00 PM)
i din get anything weird.just tht after reboot, ntg happens even though installation was smooth. shocked me also.i used the have disk method tht they taught in forum.it gives me error.

tht driver is 177.35 rite? i downloaded it directly from nvidia.but i downloaded the inf from tht page u gave me.its not working either.i'm using vista 32 bit ultimate service pack 1. is it the service pack 1 fault?
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Your driver installation went very fast rite? It didn't pop up the "Install this driver anyway" message rite? If I'm not wrong, the driver is not installed yet because some file is missing. I got it when I try to install it the 2nd time too.
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I hope no real world gaming cheated sad.gif
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QUOTE(SlayerXT @ Jun 25 2008, 02:12 AM)
I hope no real world gaming cheated sad.gif
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Unreal Tournament 3 supports PhysX biggrin.gif
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driver 177.39 for win vista 64 corrupted la... other source?
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You can use 177.35 driver also. It supports GeForce PhysX too.
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177.35 support 9800GTX,its for GTX260 and GTX280 only....
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Try this:- http://www.tcmirror4.com/tcdownloads/nvidi..._64bit_int1.zip
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88Gt still not suported! Imagine if can go to the max!
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Almost every GPUs can use this driver. You just need to modify some files to enable installation.
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 25 2008, 12:52 PM)
hope diz driver can work,can't wait to play Jericho with physX enable.. rclxms.gif
thnx bro..
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 24 2008, 09:00 PM)
i din get anything weird.just tht after reboot, ntg happens even though installation was smooth. shocked me also.i used the have disk method tht they taught in forum.it gives me error.

tht driver is 177.35 rite? i downloaded it directly from nvidia.but i downloaded the inf from tht page u gave me.its not working either.i'm using vista 32 bit ultimate service pack 1. is it the service pack 1 fault?
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well...same goes for me....installed alredi but then the driver still the same when checked with gpu-z....i wonder why....
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QUOTE(D-Zire @ Jun 25 2008, 07:19 PM)
well...same goes for me....installed alredi but then the driver still the same when checked with gpu-z....i wonder why....
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Because it is not installed..

Download the driver again from here:-
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index....showtopic=19109

OR

Get the International UK version.


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the website u provided is quite slow so i dled from guru 3d
http://downloads.guru3d.com/downloadget.ph...08ec6cba1a2ab9c
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now i got 177.35 installed.and its being detected in gpu-z. but the new problem is, how do i noe whether my physX is working? i'm using 08.06.12 nvidia physX drivers tht u put in the first page.in the info tab,its written 'no ageia physX processor is installed'. but in settings tab , inside hardware device selection, GeForce PhysX option is being selected by default. means???
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i think the physx 08.06.12 is not compatible with older cards....latest for our range of card is version 08.04.02

UPDATE: dl-ed 177.35 and tried to install....installation was ok but after booting up gpz-z still show is 175.70...sigh
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QUOTE(D-Zire @ Jun 25 2008, 10:23 PM)
i think the physx 08.06.12 is not compatible with older cards....latest for our range of card is version 08.04.02

UPDATE: dl-ed 177.35 and tried to install....installation was ok but after booting up gpz-z still show is 175.70...sigh
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did u replaced the modded inf from the same website tht demonic wrath gave? i did it. and it installed successfully for me.
cant be like dat i guess.it says G92 shud work and i'm using a 8800GT
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 25 2008, 10:09 PM)
now i got 177.35 installed.and its being detected in gpu-z. but the new problem is, how do i noe whether my physX is working? i'm using 08.06.12 nvidia physX drivers tht u put in the first page.in the info tab,its written 'no ageia physX processor is installed'. but in settings tab , inside hardware device selection, GeForce PhysX option is being selected by default. means???
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Yea, the PhysX is working. You can try running Vantage's CPU test and see the increase in OP/s.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 25 2008, 10:24 PM)
did u replaced the modded inf from the same website tht demonic wrath gave? i did it. and it installed successfully for me.
cant be like dat i guess.it says G92 shud work and i'm using a 8800GT
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i did replaced the file....ahhh....nvm la...i'll juz wait a while longer for the official la.....this is killing me =(...btw i'm using 9600GT
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 25 2008, 10:28 PM)
Yea, the PhysX is working. You can try running Vantage's CPU test and see the increase in OP/s.
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How bout UT3 or GRAW? Any improvement? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(SlayerXT @ Jun 25 2008, 11:24 PM)
How bout UT3 or GRAW? Any improvement? unsure.gif
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It depends. On UT3, only PhysX maps show improvement. Besides that, nothing much.

Also, it seems that 177.35 fixed the DX10 performance for a few games - I've tested Crysis and UT3 only, and they seem to run just like how it ran in XP.
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 25 2008, 11:27 PM)
It depends. On UT3, only PhysX maps show improvement. Besides that, nothing much.

Also, it seems that 177.35 fixed the DX10 performance for a few games - I've tested Crysis and UT3 only, and they seem to run just like how it ran in XP.
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thanks alot. i dun play crysis actually. now i downloading 3dmark vantage. slow dl speed. doh.gif
the only dx10 game i play now is lost planet:extreme condition.the UT series also. i only have the first version of unreal tournament back in P3 days using direct x 7 laugh.gif
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177.40 BETA : http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=293590
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i got quite low score for 3dmark vantage actually. shocking.gif
3dmark score: P6419
GPU score: 5091
CPU score 29571 <-ppl say dis is freaking high?

using 177.35 driver+ physX 8.06.12

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For mine,

SLI 9600GT
Overall - P7310
GPU - 7883
CPU - 6003

9600GT doesn't work with PhysX yet..
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Mine 3DMark Vantage score:

..........................177.35+PhysX........175.19

Total score................P11731..............P9920

GPU score...................9710................9695

CPU score...................31250..............10662

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QUOTE(low98944 @ Jun 27 2008, 08:27 AM)
Mine 3DMark Vantage score:

..........................177.35+PhysX........175.19

Total score................P11731..............P9920

GPU score...................9710................9695

CPU score...................31250..............10662
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huge difference bro... Too bad no 8 series driver yet... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(SlayerXT @ Jun 24 2008, 01:09 PM)
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So, with the latest driver, Forceware 177.39 drivers, Nvidia put its now in-house PhysX APIs into the drivers. Instead of it running on the CPU or on the PhysX chip, it is running it on the GPU. It owns the GPU and it's drivers along with the physics API and all those drivers. This is a dangerous situation.
I don't understand what is the issue here, since nvidia have already embed the physic engine chip in their GPU's of course it'll be driven by the GPU right? wink.gif


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QUOTE(danieljoey @ Jun 27 2008, 08:51 AM)
huge difference bro... Too bad no 8 series driver yet... whistling.gif
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I think nVidia's CUDA forum got 177.35 driver for GC other than 200 series.
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Jun 27 2008, 09:03 AM)
I don't understand what is the issue here, since nvidia have already embed the physic engine chip in their GPU's of course it'll be driven by the GPU right?  wink.gif
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Lol they're just tak puas at NVIDIA.

GPU physics is of course the way to go since:-
1) It progress a lot faster than CPU (number of processors for GPU can be doubled in a short time(See HD3870 (320spu) -> HD4850 (800spu) transition))
2) It performs faster than CPU (at least 5 times faster in Physics according to 3DMark Vantage Physics Test)
3) Dual GPU is common, but Dual CPU is rare and expensive (Current solution is that 1 GPU for Physics and 1 GPU for rendering)
4) GPU is much cheaper than CPU (a 9600GSO can perform faster than Q9450 at a cheaper price) - how many cores do you think CPU need to achieve the same performance?
5) If the game does not support GPU physics, the other GPU can be used for rendering too (CF/SLI).


QUOTE(danieljoey @ Jun 27 2008, 08:51 AM)
huge difference bro... Too bad no 8 series driver yet... whistling.gif
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Yea, currently the PhysX driver support G92 and GTX 200 chips only. They'll bring support for other cards next month.

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already installed 177.40 for Vista 64 yesterday, can enable physx working great, havnt try wif vantage yet...... icon_rolleyes.gif
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According to some forums, Forceware 177.35 performs better in performance..
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 27 2008, 11:24 AM)
According to some forums, Forceware 177.35 performs better in performance..
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jun 27 2008, 09:55 AM)
Lol they're just tak puas at NVIDIA.

GPU physics is of course the way to go since:-
1) It progress a lot faster than CPU (number of processors for GPU can be doubled in a short time(See HD3870 (320spu) -> HD4850 (800spu) transition))
2) It performs faster than CPU (at least 5 times faster in Physics according to 3DMark Vantage Physics Test)
3) Dual GPU is common, but Dual CPU is rare and expensive (Current solution is that 1 GPU for Physics and 1 GPU for rendering)
4) GPU is much cheaper than CPU (a 9600GSO can perform faster than Q9450 at a cheaper price) - how many cores do you think CPU need to achieve the same performance?
5) If the game does not support GPU physics, the other GPU can be used for rendering too (CF/SLI).
Yea, currently the PhysX driver support G92 and GTX 200 chips only. They'll bring support for other cards next month.
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It's not tak puas.. Just saying that it's supposed to be CPU test but kena taken over by GPU already tongue.gif And CPU test is meant to test the CPU. Anyhow it's good thing that this is happening brows.gif PC without processor next time? All we need is GPU mobo and RAM.
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QUOTE(LaiN87 @ Jun 27 2008, 12:03 PM)
It's not tak puas.. Just saying that it's supposed to be CPU test but kena taken over by GPU already tongue.gif And CPU test is meant to test the CPU. Anyhow it's good thing that this is happening brows.gif PC without processor next time? All we need is GPU mobo and RAM.
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I don't think it is cheating. Said for example, I am running SLi now, if I willing to let one of the cards to run PhysX and another to run rendering, or I purchase another cheap GC to run PhysX, in that case they can't said nVidia is cheating on 3DMark Vantage cause this is what my GCs will do in the real game that support PhysX. nVidia enable GC to use PhysX is just providing another cheaper way for gamers to play their game instead of purchase an expensive PhysX card.

PC without CPU is next challenge to GC manufacturers. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(LaiN87 @ Jun 27 2008, 12:03 PM)
It's not tak puas.. Just saying that it's supposed to be CPU test but kena taken over by GPU already tongue.gif And CPU test is meant to test the CPU. Anyhow it's good thing that this is happening brows.gif PC without processor next time? All we need is GPU mobo and RAM.
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wah,
this kind of things how are you going to justify "suppose"
it is because of innovation and challange that we get better and better performance system,
i don't see 3D mark got any stand to say anything as the IT industry does not solely belong to them.

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er.. can some1 direct me what to do to enable physx.... like what to do and where to get what? kinda blur ad.
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Jun 27 2008, 08:27 AM)
Mine 3DMark Vantage score:

..........................177.35+PhysX........175.19

Total score................P11731..............P9920

GPU score...................9710................9695

CPU score...................31250..............10662
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smtg strange here,both of us using the same Q6600, frequency also shud be the same.mobo and ram different le.but his GC is a 9800GX2. compare CPU score using PhysX, i get 29.5k like dat,his one 31.2k.means even if u hv a much more powerful GC,it doesn't affect much CPU score using PhysX?

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 27 2008, 02:22 PM)
smtg strange here,both of us using the same Q6600, frequency also shud be the same.mobo and ram different le.but his GC is a 9800GX2. compare CPU score using PhysX, i get 29.5k like dat,his one 31.2k.means even if u hv a much more powerful GC,it doesn't affect much CPU score using PhysX?
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Here is my score with Forceware 177.35+PhysX driver 8.06.12
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Here is my score with Forceware 177.35+PhysX driver 8.06.12+ OC from 3.01GHz to 3.5GHz
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er.. can some1 direct me what to do to enable physx.... like what to do and where to get what? kinda blur ad.
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You can get the drivers in this post (at post #3 if your GC is other than GeForce 200 series)as stated below:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/728083

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QUOTE(low98944 @ Jun 27 2008, 01:29 PM)
I don't think it is cheating. Said for example, I am running SLi now, if I willing to let one of the cards to run PhysX and another to run rendering, or I purchase another cheap GC to run PhysX, in that case they can't said nVidia is cheating on 3DMark Vantage cause this is what my GCs will do in the real game that support PhysX.  nVidia enable GC to use PhysX is just providing another cheaper way for gamers to play their game instead of purchase an expensive PhysX card.

PC without CPU is next challenge to GC manufacturers.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Jun 27 2008, 02:14 PM)
wah,
this kind of things how are you going to justify "suppose"
it is because of innovation and challange that we get better and better performance system,
i don't see 3D mark got any stand to say anything as the IT industry does not solely belong to them.
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Doods... You guys are not getting the point... 3Dmark tests the CPU because!!! and only because CPU plays a important role in gaming. It could be a bottleneck if you are not having a powerful enough CPU. That's why it is included inside the benchmark. So, better proc will give you higher 3Dmark score. BUT! The CPU score is now masked by PhysX giving false reading of the CPU score and thus giving false score altogether.

Do you get better fps now with the new PhysX driver? Not that much right? Because not many games support it too for now. That's one way of showing that the scores are tempered with and it's not exactly a breakthrough if comparison with the score.

True.. I'm not fighting will you guys about the PhysX is good thing. We're talking a different topic altogether. I love to use PhysX with my 9600GSO as well for the games that supports it. For now it doesn't take over the CPU role but just games that support PhysX so that kinda sucks.

And I'm just saying that the score is now tempered with and not considered legit. Thus, Futuremark needs to come out with a new set of tests to counter this.

1. 3Dmark Vantage is being compromised because of CPU score
2. PhysX being runned by GC and no need of using an extra overpriced card

It's 2 different things. I anti no 1. But I and pro with no 2.

Now at Radeon, 3Dmark doesn't own the IT industry yes.. But the benchmark is one of the most reputable synthetic test that there is around for now. =/ So 3Dmark is here to stay for a while. It's just that people are going around boasting about that 20k-30k increase in CPU score that annoys me as though their computer have some turbo boost upgrade.
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lol. i tried installing the Physx but dunno y keep saying that a fatal error occured. Then the installation is aborted prematurely. lol dunno what to do. tried so many times ad and even tried dl from other places as well
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QUOTE(glock88 @ Jun 27 2008, 04:36 PM)
lol. i tried installing the Physx but dunno y keep saying that a fatal error occured. Then the installation is aborted prematurely. lol dunno what to do. tried so many times ad and even tried dl from other places as well
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smtg strange here,both of us using the same Q6600, frequency also shud be the same.mobo and ram different le.but his GC is a 9800GX2. compare CPU score using PhysX, i get 29.5k like dat,his one 31.2k.means even if u hv a much more powerful GC,it doesn't affect much CPU score using PhysX?
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177.41 WHQL is out smile.gif

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On a side note, ppl that crying foul over PhysX on nvidia - PhysX runs on ATI 3870

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does this driver support 8800GT GC?
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does this driver support 8800GT GC?
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now i OC to 3.2Ghz(356X9)
CPU score rise to 30669.
when its 3.0Ghz (334X9)
CPU score is at 29571.

simple hypothesis for my rig,every 200 Mhz increase in proc will produce roughly 1.1k CPU score in 3Dmark vantage.

8800GT of coz can use 177.35.its not bad at all drool.gif
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so far PhysX-enabled ForceWare still not "officially" launch yet (?)


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does my G80 8800gts works ?
i downloaded the latest drive.. seem like nth happen

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Correct me if I'm wrong in this. You can't get rid of the processors...the polygons are all still generated by the processor, then fed to the GC where it will texture, shade, etc etc. But the building blocks, the polys, still need to be 'manufactured' by your proc.

What this does is offload as much stuff as possible to free up the CPU to concentrate on making more polys, rather than trying to do a few different things at once. I'm not entirely sure how much physics calculations currently perform. Could be 40% of total CPU, could be 5%. Maybe the game devs will know. What this means is more realistic physics in the future, but right now, I think physics is not a huge part of the total processor usage, and as such performance gains in the real world is minimal.

As with everything else, this will just get better with age. But as it stands, it'll probably take a while before this technology shows significant improvements in speed and complexity.
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Great news for Geforce owners.


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On August 12th NVIDIA will be opening up GeForce-based PhysX support to all GeForce 8, 9, and GTX 200 series users. Today we’re going to take a quick look at what’s in store for gamers later this month!


Full review of Geforce Physx capabilities here : http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia...nce/default.asp
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wohoo... physx folding ? laugh.gif


Added on August 7, 2008, 7:01 pmuser posted image

I lold


Added on August 7, 2008, 7:08 pmneed physx supprt game just can increase performance right ? unsure.gif

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Guys..
Ive just dwnload physx enabled driver for xp ver 177.35 (try to get 177.39 but seems cannot get it) and physx driver ver 8.07
So, how to install it? Need to uninstall the older driver?
I'm running Sli now...
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wait until august 12... tongue.gif
then get the latest driver.. smile.gif
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OIC..must get it then if support my 8 series..

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So I'm eager waiting for it.....luckily I visit here 1st b4 throwing my 8800GT away...
Hopefully it is true..tat I can test how did the physics work.
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very very interesting!!! i can just buy some 8600GTS or 8800GT to run physic alone. muahahhaha....
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Will try SLi 8800GT....hmm will there be a price hike?

Wat board tat can support Q6600/Q9450 + SLi config?
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any SLi board with n7xx chipset should support Core 2 cpu.

for PhysX SLi, u just need a dual graphic capable board, either SLi or Crossfire board.
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if enable physx in 800gt gc what difference does it make in current games? many games don't support it yet rite?


Added on August 8, 2008, 11:12 amcan the 177.79 driver for xp work with physx on 8800gt? i cant find download links for the 177.79 or 177.35 driver..

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go Nvidia driver then choose 9800GT..then it will show u the 177.79 laio...but 8800Gt are supported
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Aug 8 2008, 11:32 AM)
go Nvidia driver then choose 9800GT..then it will show u the 177.79 laio...but 8800Gt are supported
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Wait till 12August for the official Physics supported driver...even the 8 series were also supported.
177.79 can support physics for 8800GT?


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any SLi board with n7xx chipset should support Core 2 cpu.

for PhysX SLi, u just need a dual graphic capable board, either SLi or Crossfire board.
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i downloaded 177.79 driver and the latest physx driver, it seems to be working. geforce physx is already selected in the nvidia physx properties.
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Ive donload my physx enabled driver at vaguetech.com. Can this site trustable?
Ive installed ver177.35 the older one to my 88GT's seems fine w me. Try to get the ver177.73.
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newnest is 177.79 already not 177.73
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Yeah 177.79 is the latest to support 8800GT.

But somehow download driver section for 8 series still stay
at 175.19.


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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Aug 8 2008, 08:52 PM)
newnest is 177.79 already not 177.73
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This also physx enabled?
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yes, i'm using it now also.
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QUOTE(dlwl @ Aug 8 2008, 07:33 PM)
i downloaded 177.79 driver and the latest physx driver, it seems to be working. geforce physx is already selected in the nvidia physx properties.
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where to find the properties ?

mind to take one screen shot for me ? smile.gif


Added on August 9, 2008, 7:50 amseems like physx supported game is less...

world in conflict support ? i think no referring to the table.

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QUOTE(168257061 @ Aug 9 2008, 07:43 AM)
where to find the properties ?
mind to take one screen shot for me ?  smile.gif


Added on August 9, 2008, 7:50 amseems like physx supported game is less...
world in conflict support ? i think no referring to the table.
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yeah from what i've read around the net yesterday quite few games that currently support this. if got also is the games made by unknown companies. here's the screenshot you asked for:

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my 8800GT 3DMark Vantage score for 175.19 and 177.39+physx 8.06

Foreceware 175.19
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Forceware 177.39 + physx
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big difference in the cpu score biggrin.gif
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So 177.79 is the official physx enabled driver for 8 series driver.

Check out the supported( maybe ) list of games from nvidia.
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_physxgames_home.html

I run Mass Effect and Gears Of War upon seeing them on the list.
But can't notice different.....


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where to find the properties ?

mind to take one screen shot for me ?  smile.gif


Added on August 9, 2008, 7:50 amseems like physx supported game is less...

world in conflict support ? i think no referring to the table.
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go to ur ctrl panel..search nvidia physx...should be there after install the physx driver.

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Forceware 175.16
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Forceware 177.79+physx
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cpu score increase significantly @@

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wtf mass effect cannot play after install the driver..
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i dont have any trouble playing mass effect after installing the driver ;D
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u need to wait for the game patch to enable physx support for the game if not mistaken.
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hmm wonderin when nvidia support directx 10.1.. next year ar??? then maybe get my gaming machine next year... hmmm coz still savin money to buy laptop =.=!!!
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dont worry , DX10 and DX10.1 IQ doesnt different alot.

and developer claims they still make dx10 games...

not sure what bout now... no news.
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If they make DX10 exclusive game only.

Then DX9 user will no chance to play....I think DX9 games wont
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vista should be dump away....put 11 on next windows instead.
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even if thre is dx10 or vista exclusive games, the *ahem* still can manage to crack it and make it workable in xp tongue.gif. might give vista a skip if the new windows os comes out soon enough..
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Even the ori company want to steal the *ahem*'s nodvd workaround code bcoz their own piracy software cause problems.

Oh well 12 August is 2molow.....is this 177.79 is wat they called THE driver?or they will update another one?
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177.84 beta already available. my bet is they probably out with 177.9x or 178.x
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It gets discussed about in more detail here (sorry if it's a re-post):

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Hu....UT3 and GRAW2 support physx thru latest patch.....
Cant wait to dl the nvidia physx pack!!
Hopefully not a gigantic file....on a hsdpa/umts line here.
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yeah...cant wait to try out the tech demos, seems interesting. and yes, hope it's not too big, internet at my hostel also not so good. hope it's less than 500mb.
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BTW if like what in guru3d said......280GTX and 9600GT together..need SLi them or not?
If not then any mobo with 2 PCI-E will do?


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yeah...cant wait to try out the tech demos, seems interesting. and yes, hope it's not too big, internet at my hostel also not so good. hope it's less than 500mb.
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any board with two or more graphic slots will do for PhysX SLi, even Crossfire board like P35,etc
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wow p35/p45 also can ar..not bad lor like that. 680i sli also can rite? besides 8800gt any 8 series have this feature? or a cheaper 9 series?
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im blur how to download phsyx driver and wat to update@_@ my 8800gt like so nub in games
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8800GT is not physx enabled. Only the 9800GTX, GTX280 and GTX260 support this.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_8.06.12_whql.html
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nah... 8 series can do physx too,nvidia will release the driver anytime soon

im using the beta driver, n my 8800gt can run physx too... i get 20k+ cpu score in 3dmark vantage

Forceware 177.79+physx
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@Boomeraangkid, zer0hour,
to make it work on geforce 8800gt, use 177.39 driver & physx 8.06


Added on August 12, 2008, 11:03 ambtw, do you guys think a 8600gt is powerful enough to run physx? thinking of pairing it up with my 8800gt brows.gif

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http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_175.19_whql.html

WTH nvidia still didnt release ler.....so lame.

I dont think 8600GT strong enough...get 9600 instead.
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hi guys.... i just bought a lappy that comes with 9300M GS graphic...
i wonder can the hardware support the physx too? really tempted to install..

i am running under vista home premium.... thanks... DX10
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@dlwl - i agreed with terence, get 9600gt instead of 8600gt
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depends on budget lo..laugh.gif what other cards lower than 9600gt can render physx? it can also run sli+physx mode rite? meaning if i have a 8800gt and 9600gt, both can render graphics and physx together?

btw, anyone downloaded the physx pack already?
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It seems like guru3d will provide the pack for download...


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yeah, so far no links yet..went to check few times d..
adliew got provide some links to the drivers from a chinese website, for those who dun wanna wait for nvidia's official release tongue.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/759646/+20
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NVIDIA official driver..

http://www.nvidia.co.uk/content/forcewithin/uk/index.html

get ur physx now! tongue.gif

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err 9600gt can play next year 10.1 dx game ar???
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No driver yet at their official website...

177.83 plus other demos available yay... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif @ guru3d

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No driver yet at their official website
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have u click on the link yet?

http://www.nvidia.com/content/forcewithin/us/index.html

Not only it include the official driver but also the power pack.. smile.gif

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Is 8800gts 320mb supported? I can't seem to get it to work on all my physx game; GRAW, GRAW2, GoW, UT3.
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Wow a massive reaching 3gb files....

Got to download 1 by 1....getting warmonger and fluid demo.
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lol 3gb! thought it was gonna be ~500mb to 1gb..downloading one by one now..cant wait to try the fluids demo and warmonger too
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Is 8800gts 320mb supported? I can't seem to get it to work on all my physx game; GRAW, GRAW2, GoW, UT3.
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as i know all 8 series nvidia supports physx,so sayang i sold my 88GT for a ATI 4870 now regret cant experience phsx should have bought a 9800GTX and run physx with my 88GT
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@Boomeraangkid, zer0hour,
to make it work on geforce 8800gt, use 177.39 driver & physx 8.06

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Oo ok thanks. I'll try it =p
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Tried 177.83 + Warmonger....
The game doesn't impress me....
Colour tone is dull and always the same..
Physx? Some Cloth simulation.....too many in game.
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izit possible to run physx wit an ATi card,I mean i use my ATI as the main graphic card and enable physx on nvidia card? Noob here pls explain.As i know that nvidia driver alows us to select physx on selected gpu izit.
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Yeah I have the same question 2.....
Get a ATi to render gfx....and a nvidia card to render phYsx...
Possible or not?
I think nvidia is doing some "dirty" work to disable this workaround
as we speak!!
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Nvidia Release 177.83 Driver for 8 , 9 and GTX200 Series for CUDA and Physix all in ''Power Pack'' This pack got games alot if download full is 2.7G space around with full version new game

Here is the Link:
http://www.nvidia.com/content/forcewithin/us/download.asp

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uk site open powerpack oledi yesterday.
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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Aug 13 2008, 01:25 PM)
Yeah I have the same question 2.....
Get a ATi to render gfx....and a nvidia card to render phYsx...
Possible or not?
I think nvidia is doing some "dirty" work to disable this workaround
as we speak!!
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You could get an addon Ageia Physx card leh. Why try to use an Nvidia GC? =p
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ageia PPU way too expensive =(, i rather get a 9600gt to render my physx coz it is cheaper n ther performance in calculating physx is kickass for the price u paid
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After install physx driver can i improve FPS in game?I meant current game like GRID / COD4 / Crysis
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if they are physx supported. smile.gif
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My newest Driver 177.83 Driver from Nvidia''Power Pack'' got a program call Nurien Tech fashion~~

Wah Now Nvidia Girls are more pretty~~~
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Nurien is a game like warmonger or just a techdemo?
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just a tech Demo for PhyX
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Any instability issues with the 177.83 driver?
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for me no problems so far. running smoothly. looking for GRAW2 now...din manage to play it last time. wanna see what's the difference with physx enabled.
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QUOTE(noobianz @ Aug 13 2008, 03:57 PM)
ageia PPU way too expensive =(, i rather get a 9600gt to render my physx coz it is cheaper n ther performance in calculating physx is kickass for the price u paid
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Summore ageia cards all stop production...meaning driver support also stopped/limited. shakehead.gif

Wouldnt risk to get 1 now.....now nvidia is the ageia. nod.gif


Added on August 13, 2008, 6:57 pmAnyways wat is most worth seeing in the power pack?

LOL....always seeing cloth swaying saja.*Yawn*

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Dang! I still can't get physx to work on my pc. Already tried fresh xp installation (install xp > install gc driver 177.83+physx 8.08.01 > install sound driver > restart > run physx apps) still nothing. But i can play warmonger tho and run the fluid simulation, as long as i don't change to software mode coz cannot toggle back to hardware mode.
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is it just me or is PhysX taxing on one core?
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for the Nurien tech demo, my average fps is like 17fps, minimum 8fps and maximum 30fps. (using 8800gts 320mb)

Without physx, the tech demo gives me an average of 10fps, minimum 3fps, and maximum 15fps
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is it just me or is PhysX taxing on one core?
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physx does "tax" you core utilization..

refer to "Bad News for Nvidia" thread
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physx does "tax" you core utilization..

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I waiting this Nurien game release soon. Dancing Game
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Hey guys, why not list down your graphic card and the Physx benchmark results, eg. min, avg, max fps and type of demo... At least we can learn and compare.... biggrin.gif
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My system just crashed on Warmonger.. =_="
It was the Gcard... needed to hard boot before i could get signal to my display...
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just asking..

is there a list of current games which support Physx?
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go Wikipedia type PhyX. All the PhyX supprt game are there
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eh, this physx support 9600gt?
i installed the physx pack, then when i run the physx control panel, no hardware found...
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This 177.83 Driver are support ALL 8 series , 9 Series and GTX 200 series. So 9600GT no problem Coz my AMD Rig 9600GT also using it.

After update drive to this 177.83 ...auto u will get phyx 8.08.1
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yup, true. i saw the driver has been updated and the physx is installed
and then, when i open the control panel for physx, it said no hardware is found
any setting i need to do?
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Wow. The now 8 series supports Physx?

How's the improvement so far with the Physx?
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Aug 13 2008, 05:32 PM)
My newest Driver 177.83 Driver from Nvidia''Power Pack'' got a program call Nurien Tech fashion~~

Wah Now Nvidia Girls are more pretty~~~

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Haha damn I didn't download the powerpack one. Couple of gigs!
This game looks like a high tech dress-up barbie..
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I lol'd when I read the Nurien and Metal Knight Zero descriptions.

Nurien like IMVU with minimum requirement 9600GT? Good luck breaking into the market, dude.

MKZ also has so much focus on physics but the graphics damn cacat as well...
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from what i heard, all those extra free games/tech demo sucks. dont waste time download it LOL
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I've downloaded Warmonger and Nurien....
1gb total....the later is just a demo...
Played Warmonger couple hours....quite okay.If can join server
here maybe?
Any1 tried the UT3 physx patch mod?

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Nurien is a dancing game soon will release on Korea first. This just first preview on demo testing. When actual game release u know ur GC can playable or not lu.


Youtube already got some Nurien dancing game short demo. Graphic is outstading and phyx of her dress and hair are perfect

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Turn off physx acceleration....nurien test fps showed red( means bad/low fps)
THey say enabling physx is like having an antialiasing on....
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i think shud update driver to 177.xx and update physX driver to 08.06.12 n above....therefore shud be work fine for our GEFORCE PHYSX....rock it...


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again for those using below 256mb ram...cannot work under geforce physx....
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hey guys. how do i know whether the drivers and the software installed is using the Physx?

In the menu it says no AGEIA Processor found.
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go download Nvidia ''Power Pack'' . Then you will get 177.83 driver already.

WIth 177.83 you will get Phyx 8.08.01. this Phyx got CUDA to all 8 , 9 series


You dun have AGEIA Card sure no AGEIA Processor found lar Brother. Since Nvidia already brough AGEIA company so GEFORCE AGEIA = AGEIA Processor

GEFORCE AGEIA is using ur GC to produce PhyX and AGEIA Processor is using AGEIA Card to produce PhyX

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New driver already release.. 177.89..

http://developer.nvidia.com/object/opengl_3_driver.html

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wow...amazing i just play GRAW2 using PhysX high setting....totally u can feel it really running physic theory rather than game default setting....the explosive, the debris wont "fly" far away.....sticky 177.83 driver.....

for those dunno whether their PhysX driver are work u can install game work with PhysX js like GRAW2 n test it if u cant set the PhysX setting to PhysX high it mean ur driver wont work....previously i install PhysX driver version 08.06.12 n forceware 177.79..it wont work under GRAW2...the PhysX setting to normal cant adjust to PhysX High....after i reinstall the whole forceware driver n PhysX driver it work perfectly...recommend uninstall previous driver...dont update....might not work...

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Hi guys, I'm currently using GeForce 8600 GTS with 256MB DDR3. Do I really need the 177.83 driver which include PhysX or current 175.xx driver (which I think doesn't include PhysX,right?) is enough for me?
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QUOTE(Steven7 @ Aug 17 2008, 05:19 PM)
Hi guys, I'm currently using GeForce 8600 GTS with 256MB DDR3. Do I really need the 177.83 driver which include PhysX or current 175.xx driver (which I think doesn't include PhysX,right?) is enough for me?
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refer to ur case, once issue is ur gc ram only 256mb...when play game using physx will lag....anyway u can giv it a try...
175.xx driver wont work...(correct me if i mistaken)....only 177.xx above work....
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177.89?? wats the different??
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The MKZ demo has problems will hang during the demo start when using xp but using vista will hang after a few minutes later. Another demo works fine.

Nurien can get around average 26fps min 22fps max 45fps with my 8800GT in xp & vista.

The great kulu i dont understand this demo game when after enter a small room with alien eggs hanging.
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Aug 17 2008, 03:36 PM)
wow...amazing i just play GRAW2 using PhysX high setting....totally u can feel it really running physic theory rather than game default setting....the explosive, the debris wont "fly" far away.....sticky 177.83 driver.....

for those dunno whether their PhysX driver are work u can install game work with PhysX js like GRAW2 n test it if u cant set the PhysX setting to PhysX high it mean ur driver wont work....previously i install PhysX driver version 08.06.12 n forceware 177.79..it wont work under GRAW2...the PhysX setting to normal cant adjust to PhysX High....after i reinstall the whole forceware driver n PhysX driver it work perfectly...recommend uninstall previous driver...dont update....might not work...

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WOW, can anyone here list down the games that support PhysX. I know Jericho and GRAW2 does. I'm an avid gamer, and love any games with superb graphics.

What about the upcoming hot games: Fallout 3, Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2?
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Well the game that announced to support physx are:

# Aliens: Colonial Marines
# Backbreaker
# Bionic Commando
# Borderlands
# Cryostasis
# Empire: Total War
# Mirror’s Edge
# MKZ
# Nurien

Maybe older game will get patch to support it if the developer want to just like UT3 and GRAW2
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Go Wikipedia Check le...all the games now got phyx supported are there
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Is 9600GSO good enough as physx card? I'll be using it with 9800GT as the graphic renderer
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i think it should be ok. 9600gso is not very far behind 9600gt, which is also not very far behind 9800gt in terms of performance.
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QUOTE(besheda @ Aug 19 2008, 10:38 PM)
Is 9600GSO good enough as physx card? I'll be using it with 9800GT as the graphic renderer
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9800GT already got PhyX build in already why still need used 9800Gt and buy another 9600GSO?
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better performance maybe? one render graphics only and another render physx..do correct me if i'm wrong
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Yea i'm thinking running multi gpu. One render graphic & other one render physx. It does offer better performance running one gpu that handle both
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well some people dont know how to use google.
i've tried GRAW2 with physx on and off and the difference is there and later i want to see if it affects performance.
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spent like this better get a GTX260 le...single GTX260 also can beat all ur 9800GT as rendering and 9600GSO as phyX.

one powerful card as GTX260 /GTX280 can do all rendering and phyX at same time
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lol tight budget here. Seeing as the GTX2xx series is 1k above, not a viable choice for me.

I asked about the 9600gso bcuz i'm using it rite now & planning to buy 9800GT
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9800GT is basically 8800GT?
All it priced it same.....
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the first batch of 9800gt is said to be a rebadged version of 8800gt. the 2nd batch is the new 55nm version, with support for hybrid power and hybrid sli. not sure whether the first batch has this features..
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im thinking of getting a cheap RM200 8 or 9 series gc to run it as a physx card but want to know has anyone here done it using pcie x1 slot??
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well some people dont know how to use google.
i've tried GRAW2 with physx on and off and the difference is there and later i want to see if it affects performance.
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i have tried, the fps drop.......
wat os u use? since i tried both os xp n vista...with vista, physx works well, with xp sp3 physX crash after play around 1 minutes...dunno some1 have same pro in xp sp3

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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Aug 20 2008, 12:00 PM)
im thinking of getting a cheap RM200 8 or 9 series gc to run it as a physx card but want to know has anyone here done it using pcie x1 slot??
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gc with pcie x1 slot very rare wor..i've seen one, the only one i saw until now...geforce 7300gt by galaxy. 8 and 9 series not sure whether have or not. if rm200 get 8600gt or 9500gt. but dun think it's powerful enough..
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QUOTE(dlwl @ Aug 20 2008, 01:07 PM)
gc with pcie x1 slot very rare wor..i've seen one, the only one i saw until now...geforce 7300gt by galaxy. 8 and 9 series not sure whether have or not. if rm200 get 8600gt or 9500gt. but dun think it's powerful enough..
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from what i read the pcie x16 card can be used on the x1 slot.
and it doesnt require a sli mobo.
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any1 experience the new forceware 180.48? n physx 8.10.X...
i have install the new physX 8.10.x driver but after install it..seem like did not installed cos i cant uninstall it n my warmonger cant detect it??? i also tried other older physX driver like 8.09.X to fix it but older version cant install cos it prompt out said i din uninstall the driver but i cant uninstall the latest driver...
pls help help help...thanks in advance
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Nov 27 2008, 07:20 PM)
any1 experience the new forceware 180.48? n physx 8.10.X...
i have install the new physX 8.10.x driver but after install it..seem like did not installed cos i cant uninstall it n my warmonger cant detect it??? i also tried other older physX driver like 8.09.X to fix it but older version cant install cos it prompt out said i din uninstall the driver but i cant uninstall the latest driver...
pls help help help...thanks in advance
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This post should be posted in Technical Support.

Now I'll type in a big red font like someone else did for revived thread.

This thread is old news, please do not reply any longer. Latest version is already at 180.48 or 178.24 if you are using Geforce 7 series. No other reply after this post please
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