Yah, mealworms are easier to gutload compared to super worms..... but both mealworms and superworms are ok for gliders. I just don't like it when super worms bite back.... won't bleed, it feels like a sharp pinch.

That's a pear.... chinese pear.... some sub species I guess.... it's like apples, got many kinds of apples. My gliders don't like those chinese pear.... they prefer the Australian or European pears.... sigh.... expensive tastebuds.....

You tak tau? Baca my blog then you will know.

Cinema is fine but make sure you keep your Mika in the bonding pouch. The 1st time you bring, make sure don't watch action movies first. Try something with not much load and sudden noise.

Gutload is everyday, give veggie more. Bread sikit sahaja. Best you substitute the bread with dry catfood like Royal Canin.

Bubba doesn't like load sounds....

Anyway, update on him. He is so big, I think he is bigger than Gadget or same size now. I'm so amazed with his growth, this is due to him being a single joey, taking up all his mother's milk.

First of all, you should never put your gliders together with your friend's gliders. It is wrong. Why? Territory.... you shouldn't do that as it would make your gliders become more territorial. Male gliders tend to fight over females.... and also musk more. Please separate them or they may fight later. This I am telling is a precaution, as they are confined in a cage, you won't really know what they will do when you are asleep.

The red thing is the penis.... this happens to any sexually matured glider.

Hi,
Tomorrow BoBo will be back from Dr Jenny. He is now stable, his condition is ok for now. I just need to apply some antibiotic cream and anti inflammatory ointment.

What Dr Jenny told me actually gave me a topic to write about in my blog. I did research on papaya last night and found that the healing properties are even used in a few drugs for back problems. So papaya is good for any animal that has wounds or joint pains.

Even if an animal licks off the papaya, some of the enzymes actually stay inside the wound.

Flaming always makes this thread livelier hahahah.

Well, I got not much, just to say Bubba is getting bigger and bigger. The other 2 male joeys just arrived, crabby but very cute. Smaller than Bubba hahahah....

Keera has found a way to open shoe boxes, and she loves to sleep in them.... luckily no smelly shoes but just some random stuff I keep inside.

Kiah and Kapi are getting bigger.....

OT, my kittens are so noisy.... 5 kittens and mom can make beautiful music. I need to find homes for them in a months time.

Hahaha... Ecah needs more dark time. Play with her without the lights lah... or use a dim orange light.

Gliders live in groups.... or colonies.... from a group of 4 to 7 adult individuals that are not related, it has 1 dominant male and the rest are non-related females that would breed with the male. The group would spread to about 12 individuals but mostly are the joeys. In the wild, joeys live with their colonies till they are about 1 year old, then they will start to go away and find their own colonies to live in. This is how they avoid inbreeding. National Geographic only shows a glimpse of the glider's night life but not much about their nature.

Oh dear, they must be super freaked out. Poor joeys.....

Apples and yogurt with egg? You can do it but too much yogurt is bad, and egg with apples is high in phosphorus. I suggest you get in touch with Jitshiong, he may be able to help you with diet. Glider food is sold at 2 petshops in KL but unable to ship coz frozen food.... so you would need guidance from someone who is living there.

A 2 month OOP joey is the size of a Nokia 5300 handphone. Read my blog and read about joeys, I did a timeline on my joey Bubba.

If your joey is smaller than a Nokia 5300 hp, then it is much younger, I would say probably 5 weeks OOP. Could you post a picture?

Please do not just limit to apples, you really need to give a more varied diet.

Chinese forums..... 1 thing about chinese forums is that alot of the members do not research from oversea websites. They limit their knowledge to petshop info, supplier info and breeders who have not done much research.... so they would always suggest babyfood in bottles, apple juice, some would even say can give KFC coleslaw.... what you need now is to find out if you can get Pets Own milk. No other substitutes coz gliders are sensitive to normal milk. For now feed papaya, honey dew and mango..... soft fruits but no banana.

Sigh, lama mereka buat macam itu. The staff there do not give a damn about the welfare or how comfortable the animal is.... is more like they want the animal to be seen freely by customers.... rubbish and pure disgusting. You should see the chinchilla they kept. 1 member in LYN posted.... I see if I can find it or not and show as an example here later.

Every Petsmore branch is the same....

Get those with live cultures, most flavours can use. Try not to use corn or orange flavour....

The joeys.... are you prepared to separate them from the parents? Coz they can inbreed when they mature.

Anyway.... I'm puzzled... what do you mean by "sweethies"? You feed candy to them?

You should be cleaning up after every meal. Take away the bowls and do a normal wipe using wet cloth. There is no other way. To stay clean, you have to be hardworking to clean up the mess.

Petsmore got wan..... SG lah, golden skinks lah, sandfish lah.... it just depends on availability and location. Petaling Street got 1 tiny joey in a tiny tiny hamster cage on the counter.... poor thing got nothing to hide in coz it is just an empty cage with wood shavings.

Good to know that he is ok for now. Dr Jenny was worried hahhah... but I updated her already about his condition.

Toby shifted to the back. You know the area where the garden and koi fish were? It is now Toby... small space for their pets.... care still the same.... limited care and wrong info given to customers. Quite a number of joeys died there too.

Read this to see a half dead chinchilla in a petshop. The orange colour can give you a clue.... which petshop uses orange for it's interior and also staff clothes?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/497689/+280

BoBo is back but he is still constantly licking. The wound is itchy, so I have to wash his anus area and apply his medicine twice a day.

The papaya's flesh has an enzyme called papain. Say you applied some to a glider's wound, and it licks it off, there is still a small amount of papain that is in contact with the wound....

Whoa, superb cage silver! I also want one hahahah....

Anyway, I won't quote.... just gonna reply straight.

Bout nibbling, it is normal. As long not biting then it is ok. Nibbling is a way a glider wants to try something it is unsure of or just wanna have a taste. It is also a way for them to show their interest towards us hahah.

Bout cage cleaning, to avoid ants, you have to apply Vaseline on the base of the cage, or sprinkle a circle of chalk/talcum powder around the cage or continuously spray white vinegar around the cage once a day.

Bout hissing during poo.... it is a sign of mild constipation. Not to worry. This is normal.... sometimes it can be a habit, like Keera has.... but if hissing when peeing.... big problem. Could be urinary tract problem.... so if you notice your glider hissing during pooping, introduce a bit of apple juice once a day. Like a teaspoon lah.... if hissing during peeing, feed cranberry juice once a day.

Gizmo dah besar.... naughty thing.

Wow, high tech, must stay in touch with LYN glider thread hheheh. That's great. I really love the cage frame you did. When are you gonna mesh it up?

Yah, normal..... the other shop, a little run down one has joeys, at least got a few in a guppy tank and he puts them in a dark shelf than under bright light and they are not underage.... better than most shop conditions..... but I saw that last week lah.

Normal for glider to love mealworms. Try and give mealworms only in the morning with slurp lah. At night just leave fruits for her.

Yes, you can try giving durian but only very little.

I think Pet family just brought in new stock of Repti Vite.... you can check. Give them a call. Now I use Rep Cal and Vionate.

Hands and Paws now trying to be Sugar Glider friendly. If paw sprain or twisted, nothing to worry..... the thing to worry about is when got hairless spots, or hairloss, sudden chewing of own skin or limb, diarrhea, constipation.... the list still goes on. But good that you went anyway coz it shows you really are a great owner, getting so worried about your suggie. Well done!

Gliders go crazy about mealworms.... my gliders go lagi crazy for crickets!

In some forums and some sellers, they would tell their customers or readers not to feed mealworms or crickets. Why? Coz they would say that when you feed live food to gliders, they become aggressive, and like to bite to taste blood.

This is a stupid reason and advice. Gliders don't become aggressive. They are just too over excited coz insects are their favourite thing! And they grab fast and use their teeth and nails more when grabbing insects is because it is all instinct. God made them to react fast coz insects do move fast in the wild.

Yah, it is good if you can mimic a natural habitat. What will you be using? Manage to find Guava branches?

Other brands are a no no coz they contain additional stuff. So far only Repti Cal and Repti Vite is the safest. You can PM KP, she is selling Rep cal in small packs....

Rep Cal and Vionate need to import, quite hard loh, last time KP help import wan. Now she is using glider vitamins, you can get from her as well.

Hahaha.... not soul mate lah.... as long is another glider is fine. If you wanna get another male, you gotta plan carefully.... about breedings and neutering.

Crickets ah.... I just hold using my fingers and give. My gliders straight away attack the cricket and start munching away. They really enjoy crickets more. If you plan to put in a bowl, best is you cut off all the legs..... I use scissors for this....

You can gutload with cricket feeder and veggies.... but you make sure you check the crickets everyday, coz if mati, you have to throw away the dead ones coz very smelly if they rot. Gut load also 48 hours coz this would help you locate the healthy and the bad ones.

Your case is strange hahaha. Try crickets.

My gliders eat either from the bowl or lari to 1 corner with 1 piece of fruit. How big is the fruit? You chopped it up? I think she is just manja with you.

That's normal if she pees in her pouch or sits in her pee that is inside her wheel. You can't do much... is permanent staining hahahah.... it may fade a bit but there will always be some brownish stains.

Wow, those joeys are small. Female taking care of them well?

Good to know you got rid of the ants.

I love your cage! So big and nice. Hahahah.... I have 10, but in 3 cages..... your cage would be lovely for my 4 gliders that are in a single cage heheheh..... Keera is still free ranging in my room.

Ants, common to see them. Only way is to get Vaseline, apply a thin layer on the cage legs. Then apply a circle of talcum powder around your cage or spray non-diluted White Vinegar around the cage and let it dry naturally.

I'm a girl.... so not his idea, her idea LOL

Nice pic phoonwa. How about the white tip? Heheheh...

Silver, what mesh do you use? Looks different from those available at hardware stores rite?

Oh, maybe the focus is of more on the glider so I can't see the clear shape of the mesh.

If it is the normal one, there would be some problem.... galvanised metal is harmful to animals as it can cause poisoning. The solution would be to either paint it or switch to aluminum or pvc mesh.

Aluminum mesh is expensive.... the grids are smaller but 1 meter is like RM14! Well, Rm14 in my area lah....

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Added on July 20, 2008, 10:26 amIs PVC or metal mesh? LOL... confused.

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PVC ok, I thought yours was metal mesh LOL. Can say I a bit blur coz all the PVC mesh sold near my place all comes in green or blue... yucky colours. I want black! hahahah....

Yah, the aluminum mesh got 2 sizes. 1 for insects and one which is about 6mm grid I think, more solid and not so flimsy.

KP must be busy. I think she may have no connection at home.

LOL.... your mom thinks the house is a zoo? My mom says my room is a zoo already LOL.... house also same hahahah.

When we went to see your baby girl, it was young, underage. Normally underage joeys rarely crab coz they do not know what to do. Some are brave enough to crab but some are so scared and blur that they just stay quiet. So now you know why suppliers wanna sell underage joeys lah. Mostly is coz they are scared and blur, and also coz of their baby cuteness. Sigh....

But congrats and getting your suggie now heheheh.

Crabbing is normal ah, she will calm down in a week or 2.

Nice pics. Next time take from the front, lagi nice hahha.

Hehehe... luckily you got your dad to back you up loh. Glider is quite valuable and if a thief knows the selling price, sure would steal.

To encourage a glider to glide, it depends. Some gliders like to jump than glide. I let my gliders practice by tossing them in mid air and they would eventually glide LOL. But this is not for newbies to try lah, got technique to hold wan.

Frey, such a cute name heheheh. How's the cage set up?

Are you sure 2 months old? Please post a picture here. Some of us here are breeders, so we can tell you the age by size and structure. But if she is biting already then it could be she is 2 months OOP lah.

You need a pouch and alot of commitment. If you always scared of the bites and screams, then the joey would know how to defend itself everytime it sees you. Please read my blog on a bonding article that I wrote.

It depends actually. Each glider is different. Some gliders bond in a few days, some a few weeks, some a few months, some a year or more. Each glider have different temperaments, personalities and sociability.

Maybe she would become more independent with more glider friends.

Anyway, update you on BoBo. He has gained weight already, can see tummy. His wound would forever be a scar. He still licks on and off but not obsessive anymore and no fresh swelling or sore wounds anymore. He is more daring now. He would come up to my hand to see what I wanna do. I was taking out his food bowl and he nipped me LOL. Either he was very hungry and couldn't wait for food or angry that I took away the bowl. You can get BoBo this weekend.

My gawd.... ni Princess tidur hahahah. so sweet.

Yes, normally successful with females. With 2 males is harder.

I got extra cage but you gotta come and get yourself loh.

Coz yours are joeys mah..... matured gliders different loh. Sometimes fights happen if unlucky lah.

Hiding at the back of the neck is normal for gliders that are unsure and scared. It is the safest place for them on our body coz they cannot see our faces and there is our hair to kinda give them some security. Also the shoulder tends to be a solid place to sit on.

Ok, just PM me when needed.

If you do not know what is a joey, then it means you are not really ready for a glider. All research would already have explained what to call baby sugar gliders.

HAahha.... good pictures.

Normally when a glider crabs, I would give an excuse saying it is my handphone. It worked very well, when I am at places that do not allow pets. But one time I was in a taxi, and my glider crabbed..... the driver asked if it was a rattle snake hahahah....

Your joey still trying to get used to not having it's mom around. Heheheh.... slowly lah.

Normally joeys with joeys introduction is always much faster. Adults, especially male adults or a dominant female adult can have problems accepting a new joey or adult glider. It needs some neutral introduction, smell/scent exchange and also cage introduction.

Get a tent hehehe.... easier for you lah.

Ah, I haven't updated his pic. Now he is confirm bigger than my handphone. I'll get a pic tonight. Bubba is already musking, his scent gland on his chest is staining. Early developer heheheh.... But he is a sweetheart. He is quite shy, just like his dad. His mom, Naya is more daring and always waits for me at the cage door. Bubba and his dad would always be hiding in the sleeping pouch, only coming out after I turn off the lights.

I will be separating Bubba from his parents in a few days time loh.

This weekend free?

Yes, you can take BoBo. He needs more personal attention, I just have too much to handle now hahahah. He is also getting better, which is good lah.

Sure, if you need to loan a cage, no problem with me.

BoBo always attack his food once I place it in. Even eats scrambled eggs hahahah.

The female glider has a possibility of already pregnant. It is just that the joey in the womb has not developed yet, it is in suspended animation, waiting to develop when the time is right. Normally this happens when the current joeys are OOP already. This means she would require more nutritious food to keep up with developing joeys and also joeys in pouch or womb.

Gosh, that is so sad. Why not you rescue it?

If I can, I would take them already. Poor gliders..... still joey stage summore.... sigh.... heartbreaking.
Hamster cage lah tu. Really, have to agree with you. The owner must be silly to keep gliders in such a poor condition. I wanna kick that person to make him/her realize how much suffering the gliders are going through.

Also have to bring up the facts about rejected joeys, pouch prolapse, overbreeding....

I think too many people ignore these facts. All they wanna see is joeys.... like how people simply breed their puppies and kittens coz "wanna experience breeding own cucu".... I would straight away ask that person to go and get married ASAP to experience own kids and own grandkids.....

They do not like lights at night, the darker the better coz they are nocturnal.

Gliders do make noise. Barking, hissing, chattering.... it may make your neighbours think you are keeping a puppy.... or operating a machine gun/blender when they crab.

Read the 1st page and judge yourself. I would say it can be both difficult and easy, as this depends on you. If you are lazy to keep pets, then you would say easy coz mainly neglect them. If you really care for them then you would realize it is tough coz they need so much attention and their diet is not simple like a dog or cat.

Er.... you must have read wrongly. No member here owns those gliders lah, phoonwa was just pointing out about someone not knowing how to keep gliders and follow what petshop said.

The fur loss is not by chewing. This case is from dust, wood shavings phenols and oils, and also poor diet. Your glider was experiencing boredom, which led to over grooming. Luckily it did not go to self mutilation. This kinda things like over grooming and self mutilating is a form of loneliness, boredom and depression. The gliders in the pictures are suffering from severe skin irritation.

It is not self groomed become like that. It is skin irritation and allergy from the wood shavings, which are made of pine wood. Malnutrition also causes poor skin health, leading more fur loss and more sensitive skin. Poor gliders.

Yups, that is Litter Star.... like little whitish beads with some pink and blue ones.

You have to make sure you got a mesh to separate the litter from the gliders when using silicon cat litter.