got quite a lot lenglui recently also
went up last sunday, woahhhh can cuci mata also

come 080808 ..we do gath lyn to genting hahah

eh friday n weekend good to go or not
damn not nice if its too crowded

tangan gatal on casino war alredi

genting will not change dealer.... each dealer got his/her resting period ....

4 table with 5 dealers, 1 will go rest for 20 mins and other will continue work,
the sequence is like that, for example..

00:00 - "A,B,C,D,E" 5 dealers start work. E will take over A, and A will go rest.
00:20 - Dealer-A came back and take over Dealer-B.
00:40 - Dealer-B came back and take over Dealer-C.
01:00 - Dealer-C came back and take over Dealer-D.
01:20 - Dealer-D came back and take over Dealer-E.
01:40 - Dealer-E came back and take over Dealer-A.
... the cycle goes on...


there is no such thing as when u win genting will change dealer....


im a ex-roulette dealer

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Added on August 6, 2008, 4:40 amcant blame them, working in casino very stress, calculation is doing in mind all the time, watching out for customer for post betting, avoid making mistake...........

although we are told by management to smile to customer, but the stress really cant make u smile.... concentrate in work to avoid being shoot by supervisor...

This post has been edited by shinobikit: Aug 6 2008, 04:41 AM

can someone tell me what is the BOLD words means? my questions is in italic

Is it each dealer only manage one game ? eg roulette only ?
I heard if you work in casino and resign, cannot go up in 2 years right ? How would they recognise you ?

I also heard that lots roulette croupier will pakat with player to win big big

yes they will pakat to get more commission
my friend worked before in Genting, as roulette croupier
1st they pakat with those uncle, they remember their phone number, they cannot copy down or take away anything from the table because their uniform don't have any pocket
they will split like 50:50, or 60:40, CCTV can record your action but cannot record your voice

I did, last weekend.. Lost 1k T_T

i bet 1 unit = 100. Following his method, i lost on my first try.....

edwardng is physco conman, his double up while you lose system is an instant failure,
no such thing as holy grail, but there are ways .....


roulete is my game,
the more you play the more you'll win, here's a net of RM$20,400 in a 8hour session!
no blinks from casino manager, no sweat with casino, and no such thing as getting banned from casino for winning continuously ...



This post has been edited by Joehans: Aug 15 2008, 05:33 AM

I received genting WorldCard Blue Colour via mail yesterday.
is this the card we use in casino ? Or different one ?

I did not sign up anything, but they send the card to me .. kinda surprise

blue is the 1st card after u apply, then green card, gold and platinum

roulette, pontoon (21pts), baccarat, these 3 are the main game, and either 1 of 3 that new dealer would be assigned to learn.

then we also got to learn some fun games like french boule, tai sai, etc etc....

those higher game like poker will be senior/experience dealer.

pakat, yes, some dealer did that secretly...

Pai Gow damn hard to understand, until now also don't understand

Can intro some croupier that can pakat with me

I resigned in January, but the last time I went back to visit my friends, they say now they see the scams very seriously, many people get caught lately.

And one advice on scamming/pakat-ing, if you want to attract the croupier's attention to pakat, you've gotta get big bankroll, most dealers don't bother with small fish, since with big fish, their customer can normally get close to 10k in 1 -2 hours, and normal split is 7:3. I heard they place microphones in Hollywood Roulette tables, but i cannot confirm this. All I could say it, do so at your own risk, if you end up in lock-up, tough luck then.

As to the sour face, it's not really that the dealers could help it, sometimes when I felt happy, I would smile and try to get the numbers in Roulette with the highest bets, but most of the time, seeing those uncle and auntie talk shit all the time, you'd felt like slapping them and getting them to shut up.
As with the dealers dealing the card games, how would u feel if the customers decide to blow their cigarette smoke your way?

Another ex-casino staff lol.

I dont play big normally ... budget usually around rm200~400 per trip. But if the croupier could help, its easy to shot up to rm10k easily ..

Just curious how they pakat using roulette ? any other table game to pakat ?

RM200 can win until 10k?
i'm sure the management will drag u into their "VIP" room

where you bugger croupiers can predict the outcome?
this is just nonsense illusion created by the croupiers so can get more tips or respect whatever.

too many donkey croupiers tried to monkey around with the games again and again only to be caught by the eagle eyed lens
thats the reason why the donkeys get banned from entering casino for 2 years, not that casino are afraid of you milking casinos money away,
but the system is there to save your young backside from landing in Bentong jail

Croupiers cannot predict the future. And there is no 100% success rate in getting the number on the wheel. Heck, most RL dealers who scam are aiming for a range of numbers, normally, 15 numbers, to be exact, 7 numbers to the left and right of zero seems to be the popular range since most auntie and uncles bet there. Getting numbers in that range will surely attract a lot of attention and a lot of bets, probably to distract the surveillance since they are so many people there, can't know who exactly is the one that is pakating. The fact that some newbies could probably get the same result when he is not pakat-ing, you can't say that the dealer is scamming unless you have solid proof.

Anyways, no one can predict the future, the only thing the dealer does is either adjust the wheel speed to spin a little bit faster or spin the ball slower. There is a standard of 25 Rev per minute, but nobody follows it.

Most dealers know that RL could be manipulated, RL dealers or not. That's the reason why when there's heavy action and the table is losing money, the assistant managers would come and observe the wheel and ball spin. When it goes out of hand, the order is normally to do " Fast Wheel, Fast Spin", the would make the ball drop randomly because most people buy the same range, it would make people lose. Another inside news is that most new dealers are trained in RL, since most of them have no prior knowledge that results could be manipulated to some degree. And it is very rare for senior croupiers to crosstrain to RL.

If you don't believe me, there's nothing much I could do could I?The 2 year ban, I have no idea.

Normally the ones who get caught are they stupid ones. They either allow fresh bets, i.e, betting after the ball has dropped, or they delibrately give more cash chips. As to the recent monitoring, I don't really have a clue since most of the knowledge is based on hearsay.

By the way, contrary to other casinos, NO TIPPING IS ALLOWED in Genting. Whether the table is losing money or making money, genting pays you the same. Get more respect? I don't know, but all I know is that the dealers used the techniques learnt to avoid working. Since when people start losing money, they leave, hence, less work, less calculation. When the ball drops into the numbers where there's less betting, less work to be done. Lucky for the gamblers, nobody could get it right 100% of the time, on some days maybe, but not all the time and sometimes when you try each and every way, the ball still drops into the areas with the most bets, Get some, lose some...


As to your graph, pardon me for saying this, but 384 spins in 8 hours? That's 48 spin per hour. On days when games are fast, I average about 25-28 games per 1hour 20 minute cycle, and for weekends with heavy actions, about 15-20 game per 1hour 20 minutes, 48 games is way too much.
Even the electronics roulette, i.e. Touch Bet Roulette in Hollywood, the most I did was about 30 - 40 games, rarely touching 48 games, but if you graph is based on real data, then do try to prove me wrong.

This post has been edited by kaiserreich: Aug 16 2008, 05:40 PM