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post Mar 19 2009, 11:50 PM

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Nice thread here, good for pda newbies to seek recommendation and advise before regreting the purchase after spending so much money.

Just few cents to share if the thread starter don't mind I contributing some

QUOTE(nbee @ Mar 19 2009, 12:19 AM)
BUDGET RANGE: 2k-2.5k

Second hand: no

QWERTY keyboard: duno, since it's my 1st time wanna use a pda (i think i need it, i need some physical buttons too)


If you have a good qwerty software like Cootek's TouchPal , it actually works better than QWERTY Keypad, minus the physical button touch feel. Also QWERTY keypad is never user friendly for one hand operation and may not be as finger friendly as you thought. It is good to try it out yourselve a physically writing a long email to know and you will need to slide the QWERTY for each message you entering which is not very inconvenient, so eventually it become redundant.

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QUOTE(nbee @ Mar 19 2009, 12:19 AM)
Keypad: same here

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes (definitely yes)

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no

Camera Resolution minimum: 2.0 with af

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: Yes / No (wat is this? i don't use 3g often)


HSDPA is 3.5g that has download speed upto 7.2mb that averaging at 1mb ~ 1.5mb on Celcom depending on your location. if not, get one with at least EDGE support. It is good to have it if you going to dependent on your ppc to online.

QUOTE(nbee @ Mar 19 2009, 12:19 AM)
Front Camera: Yes / No

Gaming Type: Light gaming
Screen Resolution: VGA (or higher)

My needs - I'm a uni student and i don't own a laptop, so i'm planing to buy my 1st pda or smart phone as substitute. i'll be frequently reading e-books and pdf and be using my pda or smart phone to surf using campus wifi. So i need a phone which doesn't lag when i scroll or enlarge stuffs and when surfing. (i got a psp, it's not a bad ebook reader but don't have touch screen and the internet browser is TOO DAMN SLOW)
My head is starting to hurt, there are sooo many brands out there and there are tiers some more
Sry if my budget is too high and demand is too much  blush.gif , it's my 1st time, pls be gentle blush.gif  blush.gif

Thx in advance!!!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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If your main usage is reading and surfing, you should get one that support HSDPA and has good screen resolution of at least WQVGA with microSD support to expand your storage. As a student, I believe you would want to consider the resale value for your set too as techie gadget upgrade quickly and you may want to upgrade sometime soon.

My recommendations are as follows with my opinion on each of them

i. HTC Touch HD - Click here for the spec
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Pro : It has the biggest screen resolution - 480 x 800 pixels, 3.8 inches among the rest with all the required functions
Con : No QWERTY keypad and the price is at top range as it is newly launched. Should be about RM3k+ now.

ii. HTC Touch Pro - Click here for the spec
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Pro : It has QWERTY keypad and is one of the slimest and not too bulky /heavy. The major drawback of QWERTY keypad ppc.
Con : Price at top range as it is launched not long ago. Even 2nd hand set is nearing max of your budget.

iii. Samsung Omnia - Click here for the spec
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Pro : Most trendy design with almost iPhone look alike, fit hand nicely and not bulky. 5MB Camera with Flash. The most reasonable pricing among the 3.
Con : Still relative new name in ppc phone but growing popularity fast.

As a first time ppc user, you may like to consider buying a used set to get yourselve familiar and really play with it. You will not lose as much if you get a newly launch model or newly used set from well known brand like HTC (world biggest ppc manufacturer).

This post has been edited by wi1s0n: Mar 20 2009, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(nbee @ Mar 19 2009, 12:19 AM)
BUDGET RANGE: 2k-2.5k

Second hand: no

QWERTY keyboard: duno, since it's my 1st time wanna use a pda (i think i need it, i need some physical buttons too)

Keypad: same here

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes (definitely yes)

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no

Camera Resolution minimum: 2.0 with af

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: Yes / No (wat is this? i don't use 3g often)

Front Camera: Yes / No

Gaming Type: Light gaming
Screen Resolution: VGA (or higher)

My needs - I'm a uni student and i don't own a laptop, so i'm planing to buy my 1st pda or smart phone as substitute. i'll be frequently reading e-books and pdf and be using my pda or smart phone to surf using campus wifi. So i need a phone which doesn't lag when i scroll or enlarge stuffs and when surfing. (i got a psp, it's not a bad ebook reader but don't have touch screen and the internet browser is TOO DAMN SLOW)
My head is starting to hurt, there are sooo many brands out there and there are tiers some more
Sry if my budget is too high and demand is too much  blush.gif , it's my 1st time, pls be gentle blush.gif  blush.gif

Thx in advance!!!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Keywords: Phone as substitute for a laptop.

Essential: QWERTY device.

My recommendations is a second hand Touch Pro with warranty left. Its also quite the powerhouse.

PS: speed of internet browser is often depending on your connection. I dunno where your uni is, my wifi in sunway on PDA is slow as hell, u can take a nap while the page loads. but its not windows mobile issue. as when i use 3G maxis its a snap.
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post Mar 20 2009, 12:05 PM

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so i was at H&C asking for recommendation, but i guess i was at the wrong thread . lol. so now.

Asking recommendation

BUDGET RANGE: <2.5k
Second hand: Yes
QWERTY keyboard: not that necessary, i have thin fingers biggrin.gif
Keypad: any
GPS: yes. i get lost all the time.
Bluetooth: Yes
Wifi: DEFINITELY!
Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: I might going to europe but that'll be till next year biggrin.gif
Camera Resolution minimum: 3.2 mp ?
Expandable Memory: Yes. the larger the better. 8gb
3G : Yes
HSDPA or higher: Yes
Front Camera: I dont video call much so nope.
Gaming Type: Heavy Gaming and a sucker to Apps
Screen Resolution: large & bright.

Currently in my mind.
TP & Omnia. but is it worth a wait for TP2 or Omnia HD ? but i'm sure the price for omnia hd is 3k+ .


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post Mar 20 2009, 01:27 PM

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@wilson; I`ve been using those on screen QWERTY stuff, and trust me, its better to have the real hardware.

@extra sugar: The TP2 is just an updated TP with a wide screen, not worth it imo... Omnia has a wide screen, but lower reso, TP has a VGA screen, but the normal aspect ratio.

My final words, get the TP, more practical and has a graphics accelerator for gaming
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post Mar 20 2009, 10:44 PM

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@extrasugar, agree with shaun on this. The TP is a better choice. especially since TP2's price is gonna break through the roof. In terms of the extra price you pay for TP2 compared to TP, not worth it.
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post Mar 21 2009, 02:27 AM

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what about xperia? It's newer, the ram is bigger(384 to 288 of touch pro), got wider screen and the with nearly same specs. But still,
i really don't understand why touch pro's price is higher... (not by alot la...)

Can u guys give me a comparison between Touch Pro and Xperia? I've come down to these two choices... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

I really like TP's design but xperia oso not bad, wat i scared of the most is for the long run, i'll regret later, cuz 2.9k is a very big deal for me unsure.gif




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post Mar 21 2009, 03:45 AM

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QUOTE(extrasugar @ Mar 20 2009, 12:05 PM)
Currently in my mind.
TP & Omnia. but is it worth a wait for TP2 or Omnia HD ? but i'm sure the price for omnia hd is 3k+ .
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There is always newer & better model launching every few months, so it just a matter of how long you willing to wait and how much you willing to pay. The main difference of Omnia HD is its OS & Screen size, the hardware and outlook are pretty close.

Added on March 21, 2009, 3:50 am
QUOTE(shaun3230 @ Mar 20 2009, 01:27 PM)
@wilson; I`ve been using those on screen QWERTY stuff, and trust me, its better to have the real hardware.

@extra sugar: The TP2 is just an updated TP with a wide screen, not worth it imo... Omnia has a wide screen, but lower reso, TP has a VGA screen, but  the normal aspect ratio.

My final words, get the TP, more practical and has a graphics accelerator for gaming
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I used one with QWERTY keypad too (DOPOD 838Pro) and that was my perception that QWERTY Keypad is a must for users like me who has fat fingers and type lots of messages till I installed TouchPal from Cootek plus other softwares, I hardly need to use the QWERTY Keypad. You can check out my set's screenshot at http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=838800&hl= . Not to forget, with QWERTY Keypad, it is pretty bulky and heavy like you carrying a brick, especially if you use it with pouch. That's why I recommended Touch Pro, at least not so bulky.

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post Mar 21 2009, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(nbee @ Mar 21 2009, 02:27 AM)
what about xperia? It's newer, the ram is bigger(384 to 288 of touch pro), got wider screen and the with nearly same specs. But still,
i really don't understand why touch pro's price is higher... (not by alot la...)

Can u guys give me a comparison between Touch Pro and Xperia? I've come down to these two choices... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

I really like TP's design but xperia oso not bad, wat i scared of the most is for the long run, i'll regret later, cuz 2.9k is a very big deal for me unsure.gif
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that additional ram difference is no big deal really. Xperia's price drops fast, as most users are not really windows mobile hardcores, but phone users. as such, Xperia is dominated by the phone market, and thereby its price is controlled by the phone market as well. and phone market the prices drop faster compared to windows mobile. thats the way it is.

Xperia is supposed to be WVGA compared to touch pro's VGA, so supposed to be bigger. but if u look side by side, Xperia's screen is actually much much narrower compared to TP. Think nokia communicator. So its long and narrow

as for the extra ram, doesnt make much difference really. The main thing is the screen. your choice
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QUOTE(nbee @ Mar 21 2009, 02:27 AM)
what about xperia? It's newer, the ram is bigger(384 to 288 of touch pro), got wider screen and the with nearly same specs. But still,
i really don't understand why touch pro's price is higher... (not by alot la...)

Can u guys give me a comparison between Touch Pro and Xperia? I've come down to these two choices... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

I really like TP's design but xperia oso not bad, wat i scared of the most is for the long run, i'll regret later, cuz 2.9k is a very big deal for me unsure.gif
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Wider screen is definitely nicer for movies but may have compatibility problems with some games.

Since u are a new user, why not consider getting a used unit?
Since you can’t decide with absolute certainty between the 2 choices, buying it at RM2.9k is risky since you will lose 1k if you decide to sell it off after a few months.

Touch Pro 3-4 months old is readily available at RM1.7-1.8k with local SIS warranty. Just look thru garage sale or at lelong.
Xperia price is about the same or slightly lower.
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post Mar 21 2009, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(nbee @ Mar 21 2009, 02:27 AM)
what about xperia? It's newer, the ram is bigger(384 to 288 of touch pro), got wider screen and the with nearly same specs. But still,
i really don't understand why touch pro's price is higher... (not by alot la...)

Can u guys give me a comparison between Touch Pro and Xperia? I've come down to these two choices... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

I really like TP's design but xperia oso not bad, wat i scared of the most is for the long run, i'll regret later, cuz 2.9k is a very big deal for me unsure.gif
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I say Touch Pro. X1 is not that special for something that costs so much. No graphics accelerator is a total let down. Unless u wanna watch movies, then go for teh X1, for normal use, save the cash, and get the TP

QUOTE(wi1s0n @ Mar 21 2009, 03:45 AM)
There is always newer & better model launching every few months, so it just a matter of how long you willing to wait and how much you willing to pay. The main difference of Omnia HD is its OS & Screen size, the hardware and outlook are pretty close.

Added on March 21, 2009, 3:50 am

I used one with QWERTY keypad too (DOPOD 838Pro) and that was my perception that QWERTY Keypad is a must for users like me who has fat fingers and type lots of messages till I installed TouchPal from Cootek plus other softwares, I hardly need to use the QWERTY Keypad. You can check out my set's screenshot at http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=838800&hl= . Not to forget, with QWERTY Keypad, it is pretty bulky and heavy like you carrying a brick, especially if you use it with pouch. That's why I recommended Touch Pro, at least not so bulky.
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Omnia HD being a Symbian will have less or lower paper specs as Symbian is not as hardware demainding as Win Mo. I dont know about u, but I have a 5800 that has a QWERTY on screen in landscape mode, and its quite stressful to type long messages, reply emails or edit docs

QUOTE(Baronic @ Mar 21 2009, 09:34 AM)
that additional ram difference is no big deal really. Xperia's price drops fast, as most users are not really windows mobile hardcores, but phone users. as such, Xperia is dominated by the phone market, and thereby its price is controlled by the phone market as well. and phone market the prices drop faster compared to windows mobile. thats the way it is.

Xperia is supposed to be WVGA compared to touch pro's VGA, so supposed to be bigger. but if u look side by side, Xperia's screen is actually much much narrower compared to TP. Think nokia communicator. So its long and narrow

as for the extra ram, doesnt make much difference really. The main thing is the screen. your choice
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X1 needs more ram as the screen has a higher reso, so performance is not much different. Nokia communicator are much more wider. 800X480 is not that bad imo. Looks bigger (longer), but actually less screen real estate brows.gif

QUOTE(borneo @ Mar 21 2009, 10:32 AM)
Wider screen is definitely nicer for movies but may have compatibility problems with some games.

Since u are a new user, why not consider getting a used unit?
Since you can’t decide with absolute certainty between the 2 choices, buying it at RM2.9k is risky since you will lose 1k if you decide to sell it off after a few months.

Touch Pro 3-4 months old is readily available at RM1.7-1.8k with local SIS warranty. Just look thru garage sale or at lelong.
Xperia price is about the same or slightly lower.
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Yeah, good point there

Added on March 21, 2009, 12:16 pmAnd btw, since when TP is more expensive than X1? Those 2-2.2k ones are AP units

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Is TP able to upgrade to WN6.5 when it is out?
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Yes Im sure, and pls use the proper thread. This is for recommendation only
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BUDGET RANGE: 600

Brand Preference if any: htc

Second hand: Yes


QWERTY keyboard: Yes and no [ quote me KB and non KB device...]

Keypad: Virtual

GPS: no

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no

Camera Resolution minimum:2mp

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: No

Front Camera: depend

Gaming Type: Light gaming

Screen Resolution: I dont give a hoot

that all.....
currently consider htc touch ....but the ram and rom....i need more larger..
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@moiskyrie, basically u pay for what you get. especially with that budget. I'd advise Dopod D810 over htc touch however
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want to ask,
LG KS20 , Dopod D310, Asus P320, HTC Touch Dual, which one is better?

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LG has a lot of issues. Forget that. The other 3 (u mean D810) are decent devices. See the specs for comparison.
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Mar 21 2009, 08:52 PM)
BUDGET RANGE: 600

Brand Preference if any: htc

Second hand: Yes
QWERTY keyboard: Yes and no [ quote me KB and non KB device...]

Keypad: Virtual

GPS: no

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no

Camera Resolution minimum:2mp

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher:  No

Front Camera: depend

Gaming Type: Light gaming

Screen Resolution: I dont give a hoot

that all.....
currently consider htc touch ....but the ram and rom....i need more larger..
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DOnt get the touch, too slow imo, go with Baronic, try and find a Dopod 810 or HTC P3600/i

U might be able to find a Samsung i600 or Moto Q9H withkeypads, but no touchscreen and I dont recommend those

QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Mar 21 2009, 10:40 PM)
want to ask,
LG KS20 , Dopod D310, Asus P320, HTC Touch Dual, which one is better?
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D810, followed by the T Dual. Even though its old gen, the D810 has some nice features to boot and decent hardware
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if d810 & 838pro which is better?
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@moiskyrie, are u gonna ask "model A vs model B" is better all the time? this is for recommendation not comparison. d810 and 838pro is the same just one has GPS no keyboard one has keyboard no GPS> please please google the specs or check out the pda specific threads
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sorry, i some how out off topic....
anyway thank for the help....>.>!
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