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University Useful information for prospective law students, A basic guide to become a lawyer

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post Dec 8 2008, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(cheoys @ Dec 7 2008, 11:54 PM)
These are the entry requirements for the Law degree programme in Taylors.
PROGRAMME DURATION 3 years (2+1 with the University of Reading, U.K.)

A Levels : C C C
STPM : B B C+
ICPU : 72% (6 passes with an average of 72%)
SAM : 72% (5 passes with a raw score of 72% and no subjects
below 11/20)
UEC : Aggregate 18 points (6 passes excluding Chinese/ Bahasa
Malaysia)

so i think SAM should be no problem right?
can you help me confirm that with your friend?hehe.thanks alot.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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if it's listed in the requirements then if u satisfy em, u shud be alrite esp for private colleges...since you're doing SAM and they have listed a 72% etc requirement for SAM cert holders...shud be fine.
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post Dec 9 2008, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(cheoys @ Dec 8 2008, 08:19 PM)
is it hard to get 72%?haha.
cos my friend told me if im using SAM to go UK, their entry requirement will be higher.
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hmm, im not sure. is SAM similar to what they do in high school for year 12 in australia?!?! if so, then 72% is low.
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post Dec 9 2008, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(compunoob46 @ Dec 9 2008, 08:06 AM)
i'm not sure wat u meant by intermediate or part 1.
mine's a three year course...
every year i need to take 4 subjects and pass all b4 i can proceed to the next year..
i think it's separated into 2 schemes, scheme A and scheme B.
one is for 4 years takin 3 subjects a year and another is 3 years takin 4 subjects a year..
i'm takin llb frm uol external..

frm wat u say i can assume tat u've graduated?
or at least will graduate in a few months?
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umm, for UOL LLB, under Scheme A which u are doing (4 subjects done every year for 3 years), first year is commonly referred to intermediate while second and third year are known as Part 1 and Part 2 respectively...


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post Dec 12 2008, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(shakes86 @ Dec 12 2008, 01:29 PM)
SO Guys i've been wandering if the Legal Board in Singapore would accept an internal student ? (for the purpose of praticing after my degree)

and if so which particular Uni in Uk they reckon on??
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refer http://www.lawsociety.org.sg/ble/n_first_schedule.htm
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post Dec 16 2008, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(toux @ Dec 15 2008, 10:10 PM)
Hi, just wanna ask if any HELP law students are here, is it better to go for the jan intake or july intake? Any difference? Sorry if this is a very 'duh' question but I'm really pressed for time. smile.gif
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better as in? sorry, im not a Help student so i cant help u. :-) the jan intake seems to be spread over a shorter duration though.


QUOTE(Xziled @ Dec 16 2008, 02:40 AM)
what course r u taking 1st? UK? Aussie? o_O
if UK, normally the semesters always start in Sept. If i'm not mistaken eg. Jan/July intake 2009, u will sit for the exams in may/june 2010.
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the uk dtp for Help has three first year intakes which end after a duration of 30 weeks of classes. the jan intake will end in august of that year.

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post Dec 18 2008, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(compunoob46 @ Dec 18 2008, 02:58 PM)
latest news, judicial appointments commission has juz been passed..
so we can expect appointments of judges be similar to uk's..
meaning judges will be appointed by an independent body tat takes into account of ur merits..
if u get master or phd u can become professors in uni's lu... doh.gif
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independent??....
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post Dec 19 2008, 03:31 AM

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QUOTE(yanniieee @ Dec 19 2008, 03:02 AM)
Then what school is famous for LL.B?
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fame means nothing really. im in atc and i think it sux...
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post Dec 19 2008, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(yanniieee @ Dec 19 2008, 01:26 PM)
why atc is sux?  shocking.gif
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wholly my personal opinion and i have my reasons...

...why the shock smilie?! im sure im not the only one. my gf studied there and hated it. im sure its overall a good college, but just not the type i enjoy being in.


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post Dec 19 2008, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(yanniieee @ Dec 19 2008, 03:24 PM)
not many friends? not as big as those college or anything? no campus life? no mixing? bla bla bla? shocked because i thought atc its a nice place to study =.=
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haha, well, amongst other reasons, i dun like big cramped up classes, i mean i really dun like it. if they were in proper lecture halls, i wouldn't mind, but not long, narrow classes. doesnt help that i have astig and cant really see the board from where i usually sit. and no, it's thoroughly impossible for me to be there half an hour before class starts just to get a good seat. did that once, realize half an hour is still not enough. and i think they're clp scholarship for performance is a dumb thing to award though obviously a marketing move by a purported "course leader". im still not sure whether that's what they offer to all students, but no one has clarified with me yet.

and im sorry but i dun like the location as compared to my previous col. it's hard to get good food within the time frame allowed for breaks, since my personal options are limited. and if it's raining heavily, well, you're stuck there. A couple of my tutors are mediocre as well, bragging about their practicing and lecturing experience (or their positions) when they cant deliver well enough. the core lecturers at ATC are good, but with the numbers, for tutorials, most find themselves with the others with mix feedback.

i also dun like the fact that i cant seem to get printed notes. the lecturers seem to run out of them all the time, so i've got to photocopy my own. do they print exact numbers? and i cant seem to get hold of them when i want notes. maybe it's just my luck, but well, i dun see why they cant just give us several modules each time for the subjects. obviously saving money or protecting their cash flow. or they could have a central point where students collect notes from. workload for that area may increase, but at least students will not have to chase lecturers instead for the printed notes.


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post Dec 20 2008, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(yanniieee @ Dec 19 2008, 11:20 PM)
Where is your previous college? u're in which ATC? penang? kl? seems like u got a very hard time in there. laugh.gif
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i was from nirwana, which had its own problems then. im in ATC KL atm. no, not having a hard time coz i seldom go for classes. but when i do, i get annoyed.


...and i think u meant the UM ext BoJ as stated by Jhong...
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post Jan 9 2009, 05:01 AM

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QUOTE(ilovelyn @ Jan 8 2009, 11:29 PM)
in ur opinions..
which uni or college in malaysia offer the best degree law??
thanks..
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recommended private colleges offering law:

1) ATC
2) BAC
3) INTI
4) HELP
5) KDU
6) Taylors (uni of Reading)

if u are considering UOL ext, then i suggest considering Mentari as well. they all have informative websites...

QUOTE(jhong @ Jan 9 2009, 12:44 AM)


Added on January 9, 2009, 12:53 amGuys , i am going to sit for IELTS soon in this coming 30th and 31st Jan .
5th of CNY man and i going to take a test !

Anyone here taken this test before ? Mind to share what have you gone through ?
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there's an ielts thread somewhere. anyway, i sat for the GT IELTS in December. dun worry about it, just make sure you get alot of rest the nite before because u need to be alert and the entire test may take a long time to complete as the speaking test is done hours later that day. i was at the hall at 8am, and did my speaking test at 2pm. if you're not attending any courses or seminars for test preparation, i suggest at least getting the sample test book. if you speak english regularly, it shouldn't be a problem, though honestly, i found the reading test a lil hard...which is bad since im a law student....
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post Jan 12 2009, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(jhong @ Jan 12 2009, 01:29 AM)
I find that arguable ....

I would say yes , it is the same , as what you covered in this program makes no different and as what solstice818 stated that the certificates you get will be under University of London even though you study the whole program in Malaysia .

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I would say no as well since the standard of it being recognised might be way way lower than those who are graduated from UCL and etc.
Besides , the pre-requisites also quite low as it needs only 2Es in A-levels. Whereas you will need AAA or AAB to get into any colleges under University of London. So , there are some differences.

However , it still depends on you . It doesn't make much different if you intend to practice in Malaysia. Singapore's Legal Qualifying don't recognise it though.
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a llb from kings vs a uol ext llb....no doubt the former would be more recognised and have higher regard...we are kidding ourselves if we think they're the same...


QUOTE(compunoob46 @ Jan 12 2009, 07:44 AM)
hey, registration for june exam is on the way nw..
i wan to find out and compare the exam fees for different institutes in west msia..
in my college, segi college swak the exam fees for scheme a is rm4110.60..
any difference compared to other institutes in west msia?
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i have not personally collected my forms yet from ATC KL, but according to a friend, the fees payable RM4410.60...

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post Jan 12 2009, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(compunoob46 @ Jan 12 2009, 08:10 PM)
so expensive man...
last year i heard is rm3900..
tis yr fees increase... it's unreasonable le..
last year the exchange rate is 6.6++ nw oni 5.5 or less..
hw come they can charge higher...
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yes, it's ridiculous....


and sorry, my friend got it wrong, it is 4110.60, guess it's standard throughout malaysia....
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post Jan 24 2009, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(jhong @ Jan 24 2009, 02:11 PM)
Yo....Finally got my A-Levels result from my college today , i got a A,B and D which means i have enough of grades to get into LLB .
Anyway, its sad that i got a D for sociology !
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congrats
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post Jan 26 2009, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(enix2000 @ Jan 24 2009, 11:20 PM)
this is a very usefull thread.

i've just done my STPM n doing history bahasa malaysia n economics

i've got band 5 for my MUET

im currently waiting for my results, so whats the best result or the worse result i might get, n can get enrolled into law's course?

which college or U do u guys recommend me to go?
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well lets hope u do well, but as stated above a min of two principal passes will allow u to enrol for the uol llb external prog. which college to recommend to u will depend on a number of factors incl whether u intend to study overseas. would be pointless to recommend colleges like taylors if u definitely want to stay in malaysia throughout.
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post Jan 28 2009, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(janwrite80 @ Jan 28 2009, 05:24 PM)
just curious, is there anyone studying UOL External by self-study currently in Malaysia? reason is, i'm considering doing so.  tongue.gif but not sure if can handle the pressure of study & work. if anyone is, do give your feedback. E.g.: reading 1,000 pges textbook, where to get the textbooks given under the extra reading section, how much $$$ damage it costs...and also your views on difficulty & need for speedy comprehension.
oh, and how was your experience taking the intermediate papers/exams.

also, even if there isn't an age limit, what's the realistic prospect even if can get llb n clp? for an older graduate starting in a law firm, that's tough isn't it...
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well, i do self study, but i register at colleges as well (mainly because my parents made me to, but dun tell them i said this). I hardly ever go to classes (again, dun tell them). it's actually quite tough self studying for the course, because the main problem i face is i dunno what i should focus on. The syllabus itself is not difficult to cover, but alot of material in textbooks are irrelevant. And subject guides at times may not identify certain areas or key cases that u need to know. i cant remember any specifics now, but i do remember facing some problems there. This is where being registered at a college helps for a self study student, but of course, merely having friends doing so would be sufficient to give u some guidelines. besides, i didn't know about lyn back then...if u have any questions on law u cud just ask here as well.

intermediate is quite easy, tho the boredom of studying CLRI for me kinda made it diff. It doesn't matter how well u do anyways as long as u pass well enuf, unless u want to try your best and target scholarships/book prizes.

dun worry about age la...why would it be tough? unless you're like 55 and thinking of retiring soon....
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post Jan 31 2009, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(yanniieee @ Jan 31 2009, 04:00 PM)
But i already registered for only 2 subjects, if i want to register one more subject i just have to add money and tell the BAC? btw, they told me there's no more sociology class. isn't weird? but the website they still displaying the subject.
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if u want to register for another subject just go there and do so. they definitely wun create a fuss...
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QUOTE(fr33dom @ Jan 31 2009, 11:35 PM)
Hi everyone,

I heard from a friend that MMU Melaka is offering 4yrs LLB course which is similar to the one in gov unis - which means you are exempted from CLP after your LLB.

How true is that? And if yes, is it recognized by the Qualifying Board?
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i dun think MMU's llb is recognized by the qualifying board since there has yet to be any reports since the evalution in sept 08 unless i've missed something.

....and fyi, just because the llb is 4 years and is similar to gov unis, doesn't make it automatically exempted from the CLP. i think that was the assumption made by many MMU (and UUM) law students when they enrolled....either that, or they assumed that the respective colleges would definitely get recognition eventually, but well....it has yet to be.
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post Feb 3 2009, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(fr33dom @ Feb 2 2009, 07:26 PM)
solstice818:

What is BE & BC?

Made a call to MMU today and I was told that the Qualifying Board have inspected their courses on Sept 08 and now are awaiting confirmation to see if able to exempt the CLP examination.

If that materializes, then I will move there immediately  biggrin.gif
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good to know that you're waiting for the confirmation before enrolling....



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post Feb 6 2009, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 6 2009, 01:46 AM)

P.s: Anyone familiar with UK Twinning ? Got some questions here unsure.gif
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what questions do u have?

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