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post Apr 15 2009, 10:57 AM

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hey guys.. if i wana read about magna carta and the legal history for interest sake. anybook to recommend by the veterans here?


Added on April 16, 2009, 11:52 amswt nobody have anybook to recommend?

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post Apr 16 2009, 11:54 AM

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anybodyu???
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post Apr 17 2009, 03:13 AM

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no wor o_O dun plan to read anymore of that lol tongue.gif
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post Apr 17 2009, 11:51 AM

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hi.
i know my question might be overlapping but there're too many pages
i wanted to do law course in a local university maybe UM or UKM after stpm . so what subjects should i take for stpm? art stream or science stream? is history compulsory?

thanks.

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post Apr 17 2009, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Xziled @ Apr 17 2009, 03:13 AM)
no wor o_O dun plan to read anymore of that lol tongue.gif
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maybe i should try yahoo answers or the bar council is there is one. lol seems a lot of ppl studying law does not have any interest in law.
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Apr 17 2009, 05:32 PM)
maybe i should try yahoo answers or the bar council is there is one. lol seems a lot of ppl studying law does not have any interest in law.
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a lot of people studying law does not have any interest in law? meaning..?
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post Apr 17 2009, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Apr 17 2009, 05:32 PM)
maybe i should try yahoo answers or the bar council is there is one. lol seems a lot of ppl studying law does not have any interest in law.
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u mean history in the law..
there r other areas of law to look or read other than those 2 areas u've mentioned.
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post Apr 17 2009, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Apr 17 2009, 05:32 PM)
maybe i should try yahoo answers or the bar council is there is one. lol seems a lot of ppl studying law does not have any interest in law.
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haha...magna carta like seriously. i have no idea what it is...!! I just asked around and the 11 law graduates that i asked were like "huh"! We've heard of it, but cant described it or refer you to good reference. Not in my syallbus. purely for interest sake... yahoo or google may be a good starting point...hope u find what you're looking for...!
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post Apr 19 2009, 10:20 AM

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Magna Carta... I had a copy of it once, in Latin (reprint, of course) goes back to the origins of English law. Runnymede thus was where it all started...

King John of England agreed, in 1215, to the demands of his barons and authorized that handwritten copies of Magna Carta be prepared on parchment, affixed with his seal, and publicly read throughout the realm. Thus he bound not only himself but his "heirs, for ever" to grant "to all freemen of our kingdom" the rights and liberties the great charter described. With Magna Carta, King John placed himself and England's future sovereigns and magistrates within the rule of law.

When Englishmen left their homeland to establish colonies in the New World, they brought with them charters guaranteeing that they and their heirs would "have and enjoy all liberties and immunities of free and natural subjects." Scant generations later, when these American colonists raised arms against their mother country, they were fighting not for new freedoms but to preserve liberties that dated to the 13th century.

When representatives of the young republic of the United States gathered to draft a constitution, they turned to the legal system they knew and admired--English common law as evolved from Magna Carta. The conceptual debt to the great charter is particularly obvious: the American Constitution is "the Supreme Law of the Land," just as the rights granted by Magna Carta were not to be arbitrarily canceled by subsequent English laws. Magna Carta is a charter of ancient liberties guaranteed by a king to his subjects. The Magna Carta confirmed by Edward I in 1297.

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QUOTE(naikiru @ Apr 17 2009, 11:51 AM)
hi.
i know my question might be overlapping but there're too many pages and i'm lazy to read all to get the exact answer i need.

i wanted to do law course in a local university maybe UM or UKM after stpm . so what subjects should i take for stpm? art stream or science stream? is history compulsory?

thanks.
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This is your own future.If you are lazy to find it out yourself, nobody gonna help you.Is your own future.Clicking a few pages, using the search function won't kill you, right?

You can see why others totally ignored your question.


As for the " is history compulsory?" question, I have no idea.You have to ask TS.

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post Apr 21 2009, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(naikiru @ Apr 17 2009, 11:51 AM)
hi.
i know my question might be overlapping but there're too many pages and i'm lazy to read all to get the exact answer i need.

i wanted to do law course in a local university maybe UM or UKM after stpm . so what subjects should i take for stpm? art stream or science stream? is history compulsory?

thanks.
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not really sure abt local uni's. Anyway, taking arts or science doesn't matter as long as u meet the requirements of having enough credits or the minimum criteria. As for History, i'm not sure myself o_O. If i'm not mistaken they just asked whether i have 5 credits in SPM including English and coz i took A'lvls there so minumum 2E's is required only. So i dunno what applies for STPM
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post Apr 22 2009, 01:04 AM

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Hey, I am doing A-Levels now and I have the interest to read law at university level.

However, I noticed that there are certain universities who offer law combined with another subject like philosophy, economics, criminology etc.
My question is, what are the differences between reading Law and reading Law&Economics in a single degree?
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post Apr 22 2009, 03:23 AM

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QUOTE(PetroToxin @ Apr 22 2009, 01:04 AM)
Hey, I am doing A-Levels now and I have the interest to read law at university level.

However, I noticed that there are certain universities who offer law combined with another subject like philosophy, economics, criminology etc.
My question is, what are the differences between reading Law and reading Law&Economics in a single degree?
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If i'm not mistaken in my understanding, then the degree u r referring to is a double degree which u'll do law and whichever the other degree is at the same time. Though i've ask before whether i could take that and the consultant told me that since i'm almost finishing mine, i can opt to take that degree also but just doing the business subjects and would be exempted from the law subjects since i already took it before.
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post Apr 22 2009, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(PetroToxin @ Apr 21 2009, 05:04 PM)
Hey, I am doing A-Levels now and I have the interest to read law at university level.

However, I noticed that there are certain universities who offer law combined with another subject like philosophy, economics, criminology etc.
My question is, what are the differences between reading Law and reading Law&Economics in a single degree?
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There is a strong chance that your combined law degree will not be recognised(it is not recognised in Malaysia) when it is a single degree combining two subjects such as Law & economics or Accounting with Law (such as the one offered by LSE).

However, it may be recognised if it is a double degree.


Added on April 22, 2009, 7:04 am
QUOTE(naikiru @ Apr 17 2009, 03:51 AM)
hi.
i know my question might be overlapping but there're too many pages and i'm lazy to read all to get the exact answer i need.

i wanted to do law course in a local university maybe UM or UKM after stpm . so what subjects should i take for stpm? art stream or science stream? is history compulsory?

thanks.
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I'll address the question on history as a required subject.

History is not required as a compulsory subject to read law at local public institutions during my time or as far as I am aware. However, it is always safer to refer to your application pack or the application pack for the year immediately before yours. We may give you opinions and advice based on our own personal knowledge if not our opinion or understanding.

However, if the gov't decides to change the requirement to make History compulsory and in reliance of our statement, you dropped history, then there is nothing much that you can do about it (it is unlikely that they will make it compulsory but it is always good practice to check the requirements from primary sources).


p/s: sorry for the late replies or inaction. been busy with exams.

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post Apr 24 2009, 03:39 AM

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i have some questions

1.if my english is not so good,can i make it?i heard from my friends their english growth rapidly when doing law...is it true?? tongue.gif

2.I heard LL.B from uni utara malaysia not have pengiktirafan from BAR...so they need to do CLP in order to be a lawyer...is it true?? blink.gif

3.LAW is easy,fair,hard or very hard? blink.gif

4.i want to do law...my stpm result is only 3.58...is it ok for me?
i just want to study in IPTA...hehe
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post Apr 24 2009, 05:02 AM

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QUOTE(kindaichi_hajime @ Apr 23 2009, 07:39 PM)
i have some questions

1.if my english is not so good,can i make it?i heard from my friends their english growth rapidly when doing law...is it true??  tongue.gif

2.I heard LL.B from uni utara malaysia not have pengiktirafan from BAR...so they need to do CLP in order to be a lawyer...is it true??  blink.gif

3.LAW is easy,fair,hard or very hard?   blink.gif

4.i want to do law...my stpm result is only 3.58...is it ok for me?
i just want to study in IPTA...hehe
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1. Yes you can as long as you work for it. Different people study law from different levels. The work that they will have to put in differs accordingly. Normally their command of the English language (writing) will improve accordingly.

2. It was not recognised until recently by the Qualifying Board under the gazette. This information was conveyed by ELawyer.

3. Law is neither easy nor hard. It is something that you will have to experience for yourself. I can tell you that it is hard but that may be due to the fact that it is currently exam period and we're all worried of under exam stress. Once we're done with our LL.B we may tell you that it is easy. Therefore, this is not an appropriate question to answer.

4. 3.58 for your STPM in my personal opinion is good. But, I do not know whether you'll be accepted into any local public institutions.

Note: The pengiktirafan is not from BAR. it is from the Legal Professional Qualifying Board which is an authority established under the Legal Profession Act. It is not the duty of the Bar Council to recognise such qualifications.

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Hi guys,
My thread was barried under somewhere...have to tumpang thread, hope you don't mind.
Do you know anyone who has obtained a law degree from Hong Kong and is practicing in Malaysia?

I've applied for legal studies to Chinese University of Hong Kong as my second choice. I wanna clarify things just in case I really get the offer.

I'd really love to go as the uni itself is quite prestigious and Hong Kong is a very exciting city.
I have read from the Malaysian Bar website which they have a list of recognized law degree from uni in UK,Aussie ,S'pore and NZ. But they also said that the bar will take into consideration even if the degree you graduate with is not in the list.

So,my question is :
1. Has anyone been successfully accepted into the Malaysian bar with a law degree from Hong Kong?
2. Can anyone provide information about how is it like to practice in Hong Kong? What are the difference you see between practicing here and Hong Kong?
3. Do you know of anyone who is practicing in malaysia but does not hold a law degree from UK,Aussie ,S'pore or NZ but from other countries?

I am aware of the risk of not being able to practice here but it is not too much of a problem if I have to live and work there.

Thanks in advance!
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QUOTE(naikiru @ Apr 17 2009, 11:51 AM)
hi.
i know my question might be overlapping but there're too many pages and i'm lazy to read all to get the exact answer i need.

i wanted to do law course in a local university maybe UM or UKM after stpm . so what subjects should i take for stpm? art stream or science stream? is history compulsory?

thanks.
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For IPTA,I think art stream would be the excellent choice for those who want to apply for
Bachelor of Law at IPTA..if im not mistaken,some local Uni require History for STPM and a good grade for history at SPM level..
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QUOTE(ReeNaa @ Apr 28 2009, 09:29 AM)
Hi guys,
My thread was barried under somewhere...have to tumpang thread, hope you don't mind.
Do you know anyone who has obtained a law degree from Hong Kong and is practicing in Malaysia?

I've applied for legal studies to Chinese University of Hong Kong as my second choice. I wanna clarify things just in case I really get the offer.

I'd really love to go as the uni itself is quite prestigious and Hong Kong is a very exciting city.
I have read from the Malaysian Bar website which they have a list of recognized law degree from uni in UK,Aussie ,S'pore and NZ. But they also said that the bar will take into consideration even if the degree you graduate with is not in the list.

So,my question is :
1. Has anyone been successfully accepted into the Malaysian bar with a law degree from Hong Kong?
2. Can anyone provide information about how is it like to practice in Hong Kong? What are the difference you see between practicing here and Hong Kong?
3. Do you know of anyone who is practicing in malaysia but does not hold a law degree from UK,Aussie ,S'pore or NZ but from other countries?

I am aware of the risk of not being able to practice here but it is not too much of a problem if I have to live and work there.

Thanks in advance!
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Q1 - can't answer..since i'm not one of them and i dunno anyone yet who has done so.
Q2 - Same here. Though someone i knew is going there to sit for this coming finals there as in it is UOL paper but changed the examination centre there since she is moving there as she found a job there. She's actually an accountant so i guess she's just taking up the law degree as an extra one to add to her list xD so i dun think she will be practising there since she only finish the degree and not a professional paper yet. Though maybe the difference is in terms on language speaking there? HK more of cantonese though since it was under the British for so long, their English would also be used widely.

Q3 - I know some of the lawyers (much older ones) which only have a diploma in law practising as lawyers and even owning their own firm since at their time they dun have much advanced education and all so i guess it suffices then o_O

Sry can't really answer ur Q though xD
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post May 6 2009, 09:44 AM

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im really interested to study in law.im decided to to take stpm next year.i just checked my application for stpm and its said i got jurusan kemanusiaan.someone told me that if i want to continue in law i has to enter art stream.is that true?so there is zero chance for me continue in law?do i need to change class?what subject should i concentrate?

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