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post Aug 28 2009, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 28 2009, 08:33 AM)
LynX measures the CPU performance in Gflops. (It's something i havent heard of apart from the more familiar Lucas-Lehmer test.)
This pretty popular among russian overclockers.
LynX stressed the cpu way more than Orthos and Prime95.
It is claimed that LnyX saves more time bcoz 1 hour of LynX stressed test is equivalent to 6 hours of stressed test performed by prime95.
Bcoz of this, it is known that LynX raised up more higher temps than u get when running 'Large FTT's' on prime95. e.g 10c-15c more!
So u have to be careful when leaving u'r PC unattended when running this software.
(Large FTT's on prime95 already makes my cpu really hot, i will expect this software to raise my cpu temps up to 80c, even with my Artic Cooling Freezer Xtreme.)  rclxub.gif

Here's a thread on Lynx from the original creator:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=201670

I'm gonna try this 'linpack interface' soon...
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wow.. is it? not aware of tat.. I din use prime95 cz i noe its time consuming and straight using LinX..

I stress my E7400 @3.2Ghz for about half an hour and hit the max temperature of 58°C at night..
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post Aug 28 2009, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(farscope @ Aug 28 2009, 10:55 AM)
wow.. is it? not aware of tat.. I din use prime95 cz i noe its time consuming and straight using LinX..

I stress my E7400 @3.2Ghz for about half an hour and hit the max temperature of 58°C at night..
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Maybe those people who got their temps very high because:
1. using stock cooler.
2: OC more than 3.6ghz on C2D
3. OC'ing Quad proc up to 3.4ghz+
4. Set their Vcore more than 1.45v+ (Increase in temp relevantly due to increase in voltage/vcore.)

Your e7400@3.2ghz doesn't get really hot bcoz you still can use stock vcore @ 3.2ghz. My E7400 does.
It's when u OC up to 3.6ghz+ is where u'r in business. nod.gif
I used set my vcore on 'AUTO' when i was still OC'ing @ 3.5ghz (334 x 10.5) a month ago.
(now maintain around 1.3625v @ 3.6ghz~3.8ghz, can topup to 4.0ghz+ if i want, but somehow i luv my proc too much to push it that high)

Have you encounter any bugs/problem in LynX? Unless u have the latest version: LinX 0.6.2.1
(I will download LinX soon to try it out later)

Nywayz, there's a thread on LYN about LinX:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/892376
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 28 2009, 06:58 PM)
Maybe those people who got their temps very high because:
1. using stock cooler.
2: OC more than 3.6ghz on C2D
3. OC'ing Quad proc up to 3.4ghz+
4. Set their Vcore more than 1.45v+ (Increase in temp relevantly due to increase in voltage/vcore.)

Your e7400@3.2ghz doesn't get really hot bcoz you still can use stock vcore @ 3.2ghz. My E7400 does.
It's when u OC up to 3.6ghz+ is where u'r in business. nod.gif 
I used set my vcore on 'AUTO' when i was still OC'ing @ 3.5ghz (334 x 10.5) a month ago.
(now maintain around 1.3625v @ 3.6ghz~3.8ghz, can topup to 4.0ghz+ if i want, but somehow i luv my proc too much to push it that high)

Have you encounter any bugs/problem in LynX? Unless u have the latest version: LinX 0.6.2.1
(I will download LinX soon to try it out later)

Nywayz, there's a thread on LYN about LinX:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/892376
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yup.. i OC to 3.2Ghz and stop there last time bcz i was still using stock cooler.. and yes @ stock Vcore..

now i'm planning to push it to 3.6Ghz when i'm free.. not going for 4.0Ghz anyway..

can share yr settings for 3.6Ghz?

i just downloaded 0.6.2 today and will giv it a try later tonite..
I'm using 0.5.9 before this and never encounter any bugs so far.. (or i din notice it sweat.gif )
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 28 2009, 09:13 AM)
i got 90C..
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90c rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
Buying a proc at the shop really like playing blackjack or lottery,
its all starts when the salesperson picks up your proc randomly among other processors on the shelf.
It seems in this game of "processor lottery", u looked unlucky bro...
Statistically-wise, some say the probability to get the 'unlucky' chip from Intel is less than 2/10.
I read some people(usually highly superstitious geeks) up north in mainland China will choose a proc by their serial number,
apparently they want the s/n which has a lot of '8's in it to avoid getting the 'unlucky' chip. You tell me...
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post Aug 28 2009, 07:21 PM

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mine also using linx 0.6.2 today to stress my E7200 @4.0ghz 1.32v

hahaha..the result temp so high for both core...reach 92'C then auto shutdown...using thor's hammer cooler...


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post Aug 28 2009, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 28 2009, 07:18 PM)
90c rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
Buying a proc at the shop really like playing blackjack or lottery,
its all starts when the salesperson picks up your proc randomly among other processors on the shelf.
It seems in this game of "processor lottery", u looked unlucky bro...
Statistically-wise, some say the probability to get the 'unlucky' chip from Intel is less than 2/10.
I read some people(usually highly superstitious geeks) up north in mainland China will choose a proc by their serial number,
apparently they want the s/n which has a lot of '8's in it to avoid getting the 'unlucky' chip. You tell me...
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got such thing? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif then they will avoid 4 4 4 or else their proc might die.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Aug 28 2009, 07:21 PM)
mine also using linx 0.6.2 today to stress my E7200 @4.0ghz 1.32v

hahaha..the result temp so high for both core...reach 92'C then auto shutdown...using thor's hammer cooler...
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wow.. tat's insane.. what's the temperature before using LinX? how long u stress yr proc?
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4ghz 90C while stressing using linX is normal..
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QUOTE(farscope @ Aug 28 2009, 07:04 PM)
yup.. i OC to 3.2Ghz and stop there last time bcz i was still using stock cooler.. and yes @ stock Vcore..

now i'm planning to push it to 3.6Ghz when i'm free.. not going for 4.0Ghz anyway..

can share yr settings for 3.6Ghz?

i just downloaded 0.6.2 today and will giv it a try later tonite..
I'm using 0.5.9 before this and never encounter any bugs so far.. (or i din notice it  sweat.gif )
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Yes, @ 3.6ghz:
400 x 9 fsb; 1.336v~1.344v
IDLE : core0 = 31c core1 = 34c
LOAD: core0 = about 60c core1 = about 58c
No OC on Dram bcoz the increase is minor in terms of performance.
(but sometimes I increase my 800mhz by 20mhz and 400fsb by 10 to keep that 1:1 ratio, e.g 410 x 8.5 fsb @820mhz DDR2 =3.485ghz,
fairly stable depends on the mobo and cpu)


Make sure u disable most of these settings when OC'ing the cpu:
Intel® Virtualization tech, C1E, and more importantly disable Intel SpeedStep ™ tech

And of course I got aftermarket cooler: AC Freezer Xtreme

I recommend that 1.336v~1.344 is enough for 3.6ghz on a E7400 chip. If not, then just increase OR decrease in increments.
(Make sure it's 1.336v-1344v in CPU-Z, in BIOS u might need to set the vcore slightly above 1.336v)
Remember this is only my opinion based on my e7400. I hope your E7400 is not that different.

Addtional info:
@3.8ghz
400 x 9.5 fsb; 1.352v~1.3625v

@4ghz
400x10 fsb; 1.3600v ~ 1.3625v (i try not to go above 1.3625v since its not recommended by Intel when OC on 45nm chips)
Even at 1.3625v@4.0ghz its seems quite stable

This post has been edited by JoBigShow: Aug 29 2009, 04:08 AM
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QUOTE(farscope @ Aug 28 2009, 07:27 PM)
wow.. tat's insane.. what's the temperature before using LinX? how long u stress yr proc?
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stress about 5 minute..then auto shutdown...before stress idle 40'C

normally i'm using Prime95 to stress my proc...maximum 75'C
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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Aug 28 2009, 08:13 PM)
stress about 5 minute..then auto shutdown...before stress idle 40'C

normally i'm using Prime95 to stress my proc...maximum 75'C
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The Thor's Hammer is Xiggy's finest cooler, and u got auto shutdown from reaching TJ max?!!
Man I start to think LinX is somewhat of a monster.. shocking.gif

Probably Linx is equivalent to Crysis in comparison to gaming...in the form of cpu stress test hmm.gif
maybe i gotta plan for watercooling for this test brows.gif
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 28 2009, 08:48 PM)
The Thor's Hammer is Xiggy's finest cooler, and u got auto shutdown from reaching TJ max?!!
Man I start to think LinX is somewhat of a monster.. shocking.gif

Probably Linx is equivalent to Crysis in comparison to gaming...in the form of cpu stress test hmm.gif
maybe i gotta plan for watercooling for this test  brows.gif
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maybe my mobo bios setting...i enabled auto shutdown when cpu reach 90'C in bios..by default it's set 85'C

actually i wanna to try 2nd hand CoolIT Domino ALC...but no luck because the seller lost backplate for 775 socket... cry.gif

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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Aug 28 2009, 08:55 PM)
maybe my mobo bios setting...i enabled auto shutdown when cpu reach 90'C in bios..by default it's set 85'C

actually i wanna to try 2nd hand CoolIT Domino ALC...but no luck because the seller lost backplate for 775 socket... cry.gif
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That CoolIT is awesome bcoz u place the entire system inside your casing, compare to other watercooling that u have to placed the reservoir outside the case. Plus it has lcd display, a bonus when u have see-through casing side panel. thumbup.gif

For those who dont know the cooler, check this out:

http://techgage.com/article/coolit_domino_alc_cpu_cooler/1
http://techgage.com/article/coolit_domino_alc_cpu_cooler/2

But one thing for sure this item is rare in M'sia, i dont know where they sell it here, sad.gif
Bcoz i wish to slay LinX with this brows.gif
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ModernoPC got stock if im corect

btw how about Corsair H50 ?
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 28 2009, 08:11 PM)
Yes, @ 3.6ghz:
400 x 9 fsb; 1.336v~1.344v
IDLE : core0 = 31c            core1 = 34c
LOAD: core0 = about 60c  core1 =  about 58c   
No OC on Dram bcoz the increase is minor in terms of performance.
(but sometimes I increase my 800mhz by 20mhz and 400fsb by 10 to keep that 1:1 ratio, e.g 410 x 8.5 fsb @820mhz DDR2 =3.485ghz,
fairly stable depends on the mobo and cpu) 


Make sure u disable most of these settings when OC'ing the cpu:
Intel® Virtualization tech, CPU TM function, C1E, and more importantly disable Intel SpeedStep ™ tech

And of course I got aftermarket cooler: AC Freezer Xtreme

I recommend that 1.336v~1.344 is enough for 3.6ghz on a E7400 chip. If not, then just increase OR decrease in increments.
(Make sure it's 1.336v-1344v in CPU-Z, in BIOS u might need to set the vcore slightly above 1.336v)
Remember this is only my opinion based on my e7400. I hope your E7400 is not that different. 

Addtional info:
@3.8ghz
400 x 9.5 fsb; 1.352v~1.3625v

@4ghz
400x10 fsb; 1.3600v ~ 1.3625v (i try not to go above 1.3625v since its not recommended by Intel when OC on 45nm chips)
Even at 1.3625v@4.0ghz its seems quite stable
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okay bro, thanks for the tip.. will try out when i'm free!
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QUOTE(kiLLua the babap @ Aug 29 2009, 12:40 AM)
ModernoPC got stock if im corect

btw how about Corsair H50 ?
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For the same price as CoolIT, (in the US) the Corsairs outperformed the CoolIT
in terms of 'self contain watercooling system' from most reviews i've read.
The Corsair probably dedicate its function 100% on cooling, and the CoolIT 65% on cooling; 35% on the temp sensors and lcd displays and looks..
I like the CoolIT but i'll go for the Corsair bcoz results matters even though it look industrious and vulgar.
But then again, where to buy these products in KL? i havent seen any of them in Low Yat Plaza... sad.gif


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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 28 2009, 08:11 PM)
Make sure u disable most of these settings when OC'ing the cpu:
Intel® Virtualization tech, CPU TM function, C1E, and more importantly disable Intel SpeedStep ™ tech
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Don't ever2 disable CPU TM function... unless you want to fry your procs...
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QUOTE(campsol2k @ Aug 29 2009, 02:31 AM)
Don't ever2 disable CPU TM function... unless you want to fry your procs...
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I almost 4got what's its for. sweat.gif (cpu overheating protection function)
But it's only enable under the setting of:
1. Frequency>= 3.6Ghz FSB800
2. Frequency>= 2.8Ghz FSB533
But as a safety net, i should have enable it doh.gif

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juz done OC to 3.5Ghz

333x10.5, Vcore set to auto, CPU-z shown 1.280V

under this warm morning condition, LinX stress test completed with no errors for 20 rounds..

max temperature hitting 73°C with average temperature of 71°C.. Using xigmatek Red Scorpion only..

dividers set to 5:6 to get 333:400..

anything else to set, mayb to lower down Vcore? or go ahead to 400x9?
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your E7400 i think easily to reach 4.0ghz

try set manual your vcore then pump fsb to 425*9.5


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i think 4.0Ghz will be too much heat for my RS to handle.. i'm happy to stay it at 3.6Ghz if my temperature does not exceed 70°C

btw, using 360x10 and 400x9 will have any difference in temperature?

i think higher FSB = higher voltage = higher temps rite? no? hmm.gif


Added on August 29, 2009, 2:13 pmhave a question here..

i set my Vcore to manual and set it to 1.26V but after i boot up, cpu-z onli shows 1.232V.. y huh? hmm.gif


Added on August 29, 2009, 2:54 pmlatest setting in bios i pump it to 1.28725V cz not stable in low voltage..

but cpu-z still show voltage reading between 1.216V~1.232V rclxub.gif

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