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post Jun 22 2008, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 22 2008, 08:21 AM)
In case you all don know, Kojima mentioned that a port to XB360 is absolutely possible.....

dunno what's the media or the team wiling to do or not....though.... doh.gif
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where? this is news certainly to millions of MGS fans .


Added on June 22, 2008, 10:12 amto add to that, since the game heavily advertised Sony, Sony Ericcsson, Apple products, speaking from a marketing and legal perspective, its impossible(unless MS is willing to pay Sony and Apple). Take them out? Snake uses DS3 to control MK11, and listens to iPod, even some of the game elements depends on the product, so if we think rationally, can the game work without them?No.

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post Jun 22 2008, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 22 2008, 10:02 AM)
where? this is news certainly to millions of MGS fans .


Added on June 22, 2008, 10:12 amto add to that, since the game heavily advertised Sony, Sony Ericcsson, Apple products, speaking from a marketing and legal perspective, its impossible(unless MS is willing to pay Sony and Apple). Take them out? Snake uses DS3 to control MK11, and listens to iPod, even some of the game elements depends on the product, so if we think rationally, can the game work without them?No.
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i'm with u here. there are too many playstation references in mgs4 that if M$ really wants it for their xbox360, they have to cut their d**ks off!
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post Jun 22 2008, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 22 2008, 10:02 AM)
where? this is news certainly to millions of MGS fans .


Added on June 22, 2008, 10:12 amto add to that, since the game heavily advertised Sony, Sony Ericcsson, Apple products, speaking from a marketing and legal perspective, its impossible(unless MS is willing to pay Sony and Apple). Take them out? Snake uses DS3 to control MK11, and listens to iPod, even some of the game elements depends on the product, so if we think rationally, can the game work without them?No.
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1st of all, most of you obviously stick to the forum for info only.

2ndly, try to search on google.

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/16/kojima-m...n-the-xbox-360/

And this is not even a news. Unless you AGAIN misinterprete my meaning, snake.

3rdly, we all love game, not the sony or M$ franchise fiasco. Why debate for things like this?????

Uber stupe for whoever trying to deny it. From now on, do not tell anyone that you're not a fanboy.


QUOTE(sieg_wahrheit @ Jun 22 2008, 10:27 AM)
i'm with u here. there are too many playstation references in mgs4 that if M$ really wants it for their xbox360, they have to cut their d**ks off!
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Well, i'm not trying to offend you but, why not for xbox360 if the Producer said it is possible?
Except if marketing decide to pull it off from xbox360 forever..... and obviously, you're not the konami marketing leader. sweat.gif

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post Jun 22 2008, 03:12 PM

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hey, i'm a rational man. and i apply logic to my way of thinking. porting mgs4 to x360 is next to impossible. and pls, if anyone wants to talk nonsense about "mgs4 will eventually come to x360", u've to seriously play the game. u'll know what i mean by "playstation references"...

QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 22 2008, 02:50 PM)
Well, i'm not trying to offend you but, why not for xbox360 if the Producer said it is possible?
Except if marketing decide to pull it off from xbox360 forever..... and obviously, you're not the konami marketing leader. sweat.gif
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aww... come on man, don't just give away some ultimatum without any reasons. if u really wanna discuss the possibility of mgs4 being ported to the x360 PLS give a valid reason. if ur going to be like that, i can also follow suit:

"hey, gears of war 2 will eventually come to ps3 what?"

"no, u dumb***. it's completely owned by Microsoft"

"well, why not for ps3 if the Producer said it is possible?
Except if marketing decide to pull it off from ps3 forever..... and obviously, you're not the microsoft/epic games marketing leader"

u get what i mean?

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post Jun 22 2008, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 22 2008, 02:50 PM)
1st of all, most of you obviously stick to the forum for info only.

2ndly, try to search on google.

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/11/16/kojima-m...n-the-xbox-360/

And this is not even a news. Unless you AGAIN misinterprete my meaning, snake.

3rdly, we all love game, not the sony or M$ franchise fiasco. Why debate for things like this?????

Uber stupe for whoever trying to deny it. From now on, do not tell anyone that you're not a fanboy.

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see?

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1. Notice the word: DEMONot the full game, but DEMO

2. Notice the date of the article? The date?
Read this on the most recent denial from Kojima of this game going to 360

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3rdly, we all love game, not the sony or M$ franchise fiasco. Why debate for things like this?????

Because its very obvious you will have major have problems if you include your competitors' brands and products inside the product(without proper compensation) This is not a fiasco. This is called patented rights. Google that up. Do you honestly think MS will pay Sony and Apple for the rights for those products' appearance in the game? I am very sure, Sony and Apple will have no problems but you can bet the price will not be financially logical for MS. It does not take a marketing manager to know this, a simple read or knowledge on Products' Rights and Patented Licensing will do the trick. And if you have not noticed, you have been running around calling everybody a fanboy. Yes, i AM A FANBOY. But I am an MGS Fanboy.It takes one to know one, remember that. And notice nobody is defending or at least being by your side? Because they know that your arguments are extremely weak.


Added on June 22, 2008, 3:55 pm
QUOTE(sieg_wahrheit @ Jun 22 2008, 03:12 PM)
and pls, if anyone wants to talk nonsense about "mgs4 will eventually come to x360", u've to seriously play the game. u'll know what i mean by "playstation references"...
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Friend, this is the problem nowadays. These kinds of people, the nearest experience that they have for this game is from Youtube. cry.gif

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Jun 22 2008, 04:02 PM
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post Jun 22 2008, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 22 2008, 03:52 PM)
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Because its very obvious you will have major have problems if you include your competitors' brands and products inside the product(without proper compensation) This is not a fiasco. This is called patented rights. Google that up. Do you honestly think MS will pay Sony and Apple for the rights for those products' appearance in the game? I am very sure, Sony and Apple will have no problems but you can bet the price will not be financially logical for MS. It does not take a marketing manager to know this, a simple read or knowledge on Products' Rights and Patented Licensing will do the trick. And if you have not noticed, you have been running around calling everybody a fanboy. Yes, i AM A FANBOY. But I am an MGS  Fanboy. It takes one to know one, remember that. And notice nobody is defending or at least being by your side? Because they know that your arguments are extremely weak.

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and knowing M$, i can bet my d**k they wont do that

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post Jun 22 2008, 04:03 PM

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*takes down pants*
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post Jun 22 2008, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 22 2008, 04:03 PM)
*takes down pants*
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what's that TINY speck? tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Jun 22 2008, 04:09 PM

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oi!! kha kah kah!!

octacon! get a grip!
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post Jun 22 2008, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 22 2008, 04:09 PM)
oi!!  kha kah kah!!

octacon! get a grip!
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shocking.gif shocking.gif u want otacon to GRIP that THING???

p/s: LOL! ok2 back to topic

along the short 4 months being a ps3 owner i've no games that didn't satisfy me
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post Jun 22 2008, 04:41 PM

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laugh.gif

try uncharted dude nod.gif
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post Jun 22 2008, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 22 2008, 04:41 PM)
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try uncharted dude nod.gif
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already finished long time ago tongue.gif . awesome game!
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 22 2008, 03:52 PM)
see?

user posted image
1. Notice the word: DEMONot the full game, but DEMO

2. Notice the date of the article? The date?
Read this on the most recent denial from Kojima of this game going to 360

3.
Because its very obvious you will have major have problems if you include your competitors' brands and products inside the product(without proper compensation) This is not a fiasco. This is called patented rights. Google that up. Do you honestly think MS will pay Sony and Apple for the rights for those products' appearance in the game? I am very sure, Sony and Apple will have no problems but you can bet the price will not be financially logical for MS. It does not take a marketing manager to know this, a simple read or knowledge on Products' Rights and Patented Licensing will do the trick. And if you have not noticed, you have been running around calling everybody a fanboy. Yes, i AM A FANBOY. But I am an MGS  Fanboy.It takes one to know one, remember that. And notice nobody is defending or at least being by your side? Because they know that your arguments are extremely weak.


Added on June 22, 2008, 3:55 pm
Friend, this is the problem nowadays. These kinds of people, the nearest experience that they have for this game is from Youtube. cry.gif
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1. I knew it's demo, but it showcased xbox360 is capable of running the MGS4. except the media limitation AND i said It's NOT NEWS

2. Please highlight which statement is actually coming from Kojima. You liked to take snapshot, so tell me where to look at in your reference.

3. This is news to me that "patented right" takes place forever on a gaming title. Most of the gaming title I knew is "timed exclusive" I know it will not ported to xbox360 in a short time frame AND konami is known to have games for all 8th generation consoles. MGS series is also KNOWN to be on PC or competitor platform after several years. Finally, I will not calling ppl fanboy except one that respond aggressively such as trying to insult the others when challenged. Don't tell me you're not.

4. Sorry, I'm good enough to get the PS3 myself. I'm waiting for Playstation HOME to be launch to get one and I don't watch YouTube for games.

QUOTE(sieg_wahrheit @ Jun 22 2008, 03:12 PM)
hey, i'm a rational man. and i apply logic to my way of thinking. porting mgs4 to x360 is next to impossible. and pls, if anyone wants to talk nonsense about "mgs4 will eventually come to x360", u've to seriously play the game. u'll know what i mean by "playstation references"...
aww... come on man, don't just give away some ultimatum without any reasons. if u really wanna discuss the possibility of mgs4 being ported to the x360 PLS give a valid reason. if ur going to be like that, i can also follow suit:

"hey, gears of war 2 will eventually come to ps3 what?"

"no, u dumb***. it's completely owned by Microsoft"

"well, why not for ps3 if the Producer said it is possible?
Except if marketing decide to pull it off from ps3 forever..... and obviously, you're not the microsoft/epic games marketing leader"

u get what i mean?
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Is that considered ultimatum to you???? doh.gif

My reply before your quote is for someone who wrote such statement:


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Friend, this is the problem nowadays. These kinds of people, the nearest experience that they have for this game is from Youtube. cry.gif


BTW, Why can't GoW2 ported to PS3? I seriously doubt that. Most of the games are "timed exclusive" only. means they will eventully ported to other platform. (edited:Epic's Mark rein officially denied that in a fanboy way. So.... it is not possible...)

From the story I known, the main obstacle of the 360 port is the media, and not due to what-so-ever marketing fiasco. The situation has been widely debated since then till now and it's not stopped yet.... Until Konami really put it to a stop officially, It'll never end.

it's up to you if u wanna pull pants & show the "worm".... doh.gif

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post Jun 22 2008, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 22 2008, 04:50 PM)
1. I knew it's demo, but it showcased xbox360 is capable of running the MGS4. except the media limitation AND i said It's NOT NEWS

Well, in your initial post, you didnt say anythijng about you knowing it was a bout a demo wink.gif

QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 22 2008, 08:21 AM)
In case you all don know, Kojima mentioned that a port to XB360 is absolutely possible.....

dunno what's the media or the team wiling to do or not....though.... doh.gif
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You do know the meaning of showcase right? As in REAL TIME VIDEO demonstration? You have any videos to back that statement? and at last, you took account of the media limitation. No wonder you didnt answer my question regarding the ability of HD DVD of games.

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2. Please highlight which statement is actually coming from Kojima. You liked to take snapshot, so tell me where to look at in your reference.

Maybe you didnt click the hyperlink.Read the first statement in the third paragraph. Not denial per se, but that is a how people refuse or deny things in the corporate world, the world I am involved in. Well, it DOES take a slight marketing knowledge to understand his euphemism. And, do take a look on the date of both articles. Date is also a major factor, if now NST and Berita Harian can go bankrupt.


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3. This is news to me that "patented right" takes place forever on a gaming title. Most of the gaming title I knew is "timed exclusive" I know it will not ported to xbox360 in a short time frame AND konami is known to have games for all 8th generation consoles. MGS series is also KNOWN to be on PC or competitor platform after several years. Finally, I will not calling ppl fanboy except one that respond aggressively such as trying to insult the others when challenged. Don't tell me you're not.

a) Please read the 'patented rights' thingy to save yourself the embarrassments. You need to know that patented rights and timed exclusives are two DIFFERENT things.
b) We are talking about consoles, not PC. and Snake Eater has never been on PC.
c) You have the choice, regarding the name calling. I will not stoop to your level as its pathetic.

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4. Sorry, I'm good enough to get the PS3 myself. I'm waiting for Playstation HOME to be launch to get one and I don't watch YouTube for games.

a)Good to know where you stand by yourself.
b)Regarding the Youtube, I didnt refer to you, but you know lah, like Malay proverb, siapa makan cili dia yang terasa pedasnya wink.gif

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Why can't GoW2 ported to PS3? I seriously doubt that. Most of the games are "timed exclusive" only. means they will eventully ported to other platform.
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Thats why.

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post Jun 22 2008, 05:13 PM

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This is news to me that "patented right" takes place forever on a gaming title. Most of the gaming title I knew is "timed exclusive" I know it will not ported to xbox360 in a short time frame AND konami is known to have games for all 8th generation consoles. MGS series is also KNOWN to be on PC or competitor platform after several years. Finally, I will not calling ppl fanboy except one that respond aggressively such as trying to insult the others when challenged. Don't tell me you're not.


doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif we're not talking about time-exclusive games here. we're talking about "patented rights". dude, obviously u haven't played mgs4. there're way too many playstation and apple gadgets in that game. do u think apple and sony will just sit on their asses and do nothing if ever Konami wants to port mgs4 to x360? and knowing M$, they won't and i tell u, won't ever in hell promote rival brands on their games. that's just plain stupid. n u don't need to be a marketing executive to be able to understand that.

my advice: go play mgs4 NOW, before u start talking nonsense again. don't have a ps3? BUY or borrow one

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Not all MGS titles are ported la. Only MGS and MGS2. MGS2 was out on the pc almost immediately after the PS2's MGS2 launch.

MGS3 didn't get port i think coz of the pressure sensitive they apply for cqc throughout the game. In PC, how to apply pressure sensitive buttons unless it comes with a special controller.

BTW, I'm kind of loss right now...what is this discussion have anything to do with the thread title happy.gif

One thing is for sure, I bought the ps3 coz MGS4 was out happy.gif, every other game came in second on my list for game of choice.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 22 2008, 05:08 PM)
Well, in your initial post, you didnt say anythijng about you knowing it was a bout a demo wink.gif
You do know the meaning of showcase right? As in REAL TIME VIDEO demonstration? You have any videos to back that statement? and at last, you took account of the media limitation. No wonder you didnt answer my question regarding the ability of HD DVD of games.
Maybe you didnt click the hyperlink.Read the first statement in the third paragraph. Not denial per se, but that is a how people refuse or deny things in the corporate world, the world I am involved in. Well, it DOES take a slight marketing knowledge to understand his euphemism.  And, do take a look on the date of both articles. Date is also a major factor, if now NST and Berita Harian can go bankrupt.
a) Please read the 'patented rights' thingy to save yourself the embarrassments. You need to know that patented rights and timed exclusives are two DIFFERENT things.
b) We are talking about consoles, not PC. and Snake Eater has never been on PC.
c) You have the choice, regarding the name calling. I will not stoop to your level as its pathetic.
a)Good to know where you stand by yourself.
b)Regarding the Youtube, I didnt refer to you, but you know lah, like Malay proverb, siapa makan cili dia yang terasa pedasnya wink.gif
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Thats why.
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talk about fanboyism! seems like we know a hell lot more about their games than they do about ours tongue.gif

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post Jun 22 2008, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(sieg_wahrheit @ Jun 22 2008, 05:17 PM)
talk about fanboyism! seems like we know a hell lot more about their games than they know about ours tongue.gif
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Biasalah, this is a normal case of a PC gamer converting to console gaming.

For me, I respect all platforms, but the problem is we have deuchebags that do not have any ideas of the game in the first place. In fact, I am planning to buy a 360 this coming August.(CPF refund time, yay!) Why? GOW2 and Forza 3. I am not going to wait until Kingdom Come for those two games to be ported to PS3, thats just plain idiotic laugh.gif

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 22 2008, 05:20 PM)
Biasalah, this is a normal case of a PC gamer converting to console gaming.

For me, I respect all platforms, but the problem is we have deuchebags that do not have any ideas of the game in the first place. In fact, I am planning to buy a 360 this coming August.(CPF refund time, yay!) Why? GOW2 and Forza 3. I am not going to wait until Kingdom Come for those two games to be ported to PS3, thats just plain idiotic laugh.gif
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AND... (say it together with me) IT"S NOT GONNA HAPPEN!
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 22 2008, 05:08 PM)
Well, in your initial post, you didnt say anythijng about you knowing it was a bout a demo wink.gif
You do know the meaning of showcase right? As in REAL TIME VIDEO demonstration? You have any videos to back that statement? and at last, you took account of the media limitation. No wonder you didnt answer my question regarding the ability of HD DVD of games.
Maybe you didnt click the hyperlink.Read the first statement in the third paragraph. Not denial per se, but that is a how people refuse or deny things in the corporate world, the world I am involved in. Well, it DOES take a slight marketing knowledge to understand his euphemism.  And, do take a look on the date of both articles. Date is also a major factor, if now NST and Berita Harian can go bankrupt.
a) Please read the 'patented rights' thingy to save yourself the embarrassments. You need to know that patented rights and timed exclusives are two DIFFERENT things.
b) We are talking about consoles, not PC. and Snake Eater has never been on PC.
c) You have the choice, regarding the name calling. I will not stoop to your level as its pathetic.
a)Good to know where you stand by yourself.
b)Regarding the Youtube, I didnt refer to you, but you know lah, like Malay proverb, siapa makan cili dia yang terasa pedasnya wink.gif
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I read your hyperlink, But i failed to see official denial from Konami. I knew date is important, but until Apri 2008 there're still speculation for xbox360 version.

QUOTE(sieg_wahrheit @ Jun 22 2008, 05:13 PM)
doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif we're not talking about time-exclusive games here. we're talking about "patented rights". dude, obviously u haven't played mgs4. there're way too many playstation and apple gadgets in that game. do u think apple and sony will just sit on their asses and do nothing if ever Konami wants to port mgs4 to x360? and knowing M$, they won't and i tell u, won't ever in hell promote rival brands on their games. that's just plain stupid. n u don't need to be a marketing executive to be able to understand that.

my advice: go play mgs4 NOW, before u start talking nonsense again. don't have a ps3? BUY or borrow one
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Patented right on items in MGS4 is known to me..... thanks....... But speculation still out there for "Mgs4 is timed exclusive" and sadly konami never deny that kinda statement. doh.gif I'll get myself a PS3 when PSHome is launched. thanks for your advice rolleyes.gif

It is possible to exclude certain scene or item for different platform and it's done before. If i'm not mistaken Ubisoft had once did it for in game ads... doh.gif

Well....afterall, different PoV lead to different understanding, why not just stay cool & not hijacking this topic with MGS4?

PS3 got other great games like Resistance series. Although MGS4 is the 1st 8th generation game to receive perfect score in gamespot. thumbup.gif



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