blu ray, even with the bigger capacity, reads data slowly. go figure.

its like a big canvas, and a waaaay bigger canvas.

1. Which canvas will need extra work?

2. Which canvas will be time consuming to be finished?

But in the end, which canvas can hold more images?

Personally, I bought the PS3 not because of its a PS3, but because it has MGS4, GT5, FF13.

So MGS4 is just around the corner, I am already satisfied. Other games are just bonus for me. I would rather seriously do online gaming for free, supporting original stuffs are hardcore expensive. Sure, LiVE has it perks, expands the title etc etc but honestly, I am much more a single player guy. I enjoy MGS4, single player title, stories driven RPG, hence FF13, occasionally racing GT5P online with American monkeys (no gentlemen at all). Pay to play has its advantages, but not for me. I bought an LCD, a next gen machine, original games and those are enough. Like GTA 4 Online, am already bored of the same thing, over and over again. MGS3 online, yes I was playing heavily, but I played more Monster Hunter Online. Reason? People in Monster Hunter Online are much tolerant to our sucky streamyx connectio, so no kicks for me Sure ,people said if you wanna hone your skilss, try online. Pftt.I have no FPS, no sports titles. (planning on getting the multiplatform FIFA09 later on) Other that that..pftt.

And blu ray, oh blu ray. Is the machine capable of playing movies? I have only 2 titles so far. 2. TWO. I love movies, make no mistake, but I rather concentrate my 'effort' to the games only. I have around 20+ movies on my hdd, and they serve the purpose. Quality? check. Sound check. Nothing extra normal human eyes like me can see. Personally, I dont give a rats ass about the format war. I still am happy with my divx and avis.

And for those of you that thinks this is Sony's fault, think again. Its the developers' that develop the games. So far, games from Sony like Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank Future and awesome 3rd party like Kojima Studios have impressed a lot of people. Some of the people were even courting some studios to snatch some games. Its that serious. Sony gave the devs a Lambo, but if they drive it like a Satria, do we blame the car or the driver? And personally, DMC4 looks too pathetic to be compared with Uncharted. And if memory serves me correctly, Uncharted came out last year.

As a conclusion, just enjoy the games. At least we have the assurance that Sony's R&D crew didnt fell asleep during PS3's stress test. That is one huge factor to consider. The ball is in the developers' court now, its up to them on how they will play it.

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Jun 2 2008, 06:16 PM

^ ftw......

so far, PS3 exclusive games didnt let me down. Only those multiple platform titles. I tried Eye of Judgement last time, now that was next gen. Not the same shit over and over again, with added vehicles or more weapons. So moanings should be directed at the developers

and I think this thread should be brought back to PS section. As more PS users are there, so more feedback.

wouldn't it be funny if they add like, 2 more cars and 2 more bikes? and one race mission?

2? try five

and referring to all the in game reference and ads on sony and apple, fat chance in hell.

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Jun 21 2008, 03:04 PM

good arguement there.

but,

the separate HDVD drive, can it play GAMES?

precisely. after the amount of effort for MGS4, i prefer the team to rest and make new IP

where? this is news certainly to millions of MGS fans .

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Added on June 22, 2008, 10:12 amto add to that, since the game heavily advertised Sony, Sony Ericcsson, Apple products, speaking from a marketing and legal perspective, its impossible(unless MS is willing to pay Sony and Apple). Take them out? Snake uses DS3 to control MK11, and listens to iPod, even some of the game elements depends on the product, so if we think rationally, can the game work without them?No.

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Jun 22 2008, 10:12 AM

see?


1. Notice the word: DEMONot the full game, but DEMO

2. Notice the date of the article? The date?
Read this on the most recent denial from Kojima of this game going to 360

3.
Because its very obvious you will have major have problems if you include your competitors' brands and products inside the product(without proper compensation) This is not a fiasco. This is called patented rights. Google that up. Do you honestly think MS will pay Sony and Apple for the rights for those products' appearance in the game? I am very sure, Sony and Apple will have no problems but you can bet the price will not be financially logical for MS. It does not take a marketing manager to know this, a simple read or knowledge on Products' Rights and Patented Licensing will do the trick. And if you have not noticed, you have been running around calling everybody a fanboy. Yes, i AM A FANBOY. But I am an MGS Fanboy.It takes one to know one, remember that. And notice nobody is defending or at least being by your side? Because they know that your arguments are extremely weak.

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Added on June 22, 2008, 3:55 pmFriend, this is the problem nowadays. These kinds of people, the nearest experience that they have for this game is from Youtube.

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Jun 22 2008, 04:02 PM

*takes down pants*

oi!! kha kah kah!!

octacon! get a grip!

try uncharted dude

Well, in your initial post, you didnt say anythijng about you knowing it was a bout a demo

You do know the meaning of showcase right? As in REAL TIME VIDEO demonstration? You have any videos to back that statement? and at last, you took account of the media limitation. No wonder you didnt answer my question regarding the ability of HD DVD of games.


Maybe you didnt click the hyperlink.Read the first statement in the third paragraph. Not denial per se, but that is a how people refuse or deny things in the corporate world, the world I am involved in. Well, it DOES take a slight marketing knowledge to understand his euphemism. And, do take a look on the date of both articles. Date is also a major factor, if now NST and Berita Harian can go bankrupt.



a) Please read the 'patented rights' thingy to save yourself the embarrassments. You need to know that patented rights and timed exclusives are two DIFFERENT things.
b) We are talking about consoles, not PC. and Snake Eater has never been on PC.
c) You have the choice, regarding the name calling. I will not stoop to your level as its pathetic.


a)Good to know where you stand by yourself.
b)Regarding the Youtube, I didnt refer to you, but you know lah, like Malay proverb, siapa makan cili dia yang terasa pedasnya


Thats why.

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Jun 22 2008, 05:16 PM

Biasalah, this is a normal case of a PC gamer converting to console gaming.

For me, I respect all platforms, but the problem is we have deuchebags that do not have any ideas of the game in the first place. In fact, I am planning to buy a 360 this coming August.(CPF refund time, yay!) Why? GOW2 and Forza 3. I am not going to wait until Kingdom Come for those two games to be ported to PS3, thats just plain idiotic

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Jun 22 2008, 05:21 PM

Where did I post this? Ah you and your assumptions

awww...now with no facts, you call me arrogant ,here is a tip buddy, polish up your english we gave facts but you gave assumptions. and your failure to differentiate 'timed exclusive and product copyrights is somewhat...saddening Maybe you are to deep learning system code error, no worries man, I feel for ya

it seems like you REALLY want to play, MGS4, while, let me help you with that



Enjoy!

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Added on June 22, 2008, 7:49 pm

I think you need to know several Apple products in the game :

iMac, iPod.

Sony
Sony PS3, Sony PSP, DS3

Sonyerricsson:
The phones Naomi and Vamp use

If you throw away iPod and DS3, how can Snake listen to the downloadable Podcasts and control MG MK11?


Some people just crack me up.

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Jun 22 2008, 07:54 PM

dun la discuss here, later some people will ask is Big Boss face camo copyrighted too

Please keep emotions out of this. Hyperlinks not reflect the situation at all? My my, you need not only to the 1119 class, but basic grammar too.


Which one I deny, please DO SHOW IT TO ME. You have said I was mocking some fanboys? Where is the post?


where do I do such thing? And where do I blame anyone?


where? Care to show me the post they stated the cause of the ban?


Since I know the reason, yes I am


And what do you reckon that topic means? Do you have a PS3 to begin with? If you do not, why on earth are you even posting?Last time I checked, this topic is about PS3 owners' comment about the BD's full capacity not being utilized.


Thank you for that. And please be informed, I need no grammar checker or a spell check You might want to recheck the bolded words I have for you.





and who is going to re render that (lets just say somewhere in LALA Land, where legal contracts and marketing deals DOESN'T APPLY) while we are on topic, since the development of MGS4 was already sponsored by Sony and Apple, who will bear the cost now? If, and let me rephrase that, if you know anything about marketing contracts, partnership deals , these kinds of , in laymen terms edits, must involve the game, being built by scratch up, with no budgets from Sony or Apple. And lets not begin fitting the content in like 5 dvd9s? Do you think, as a company, Kojima and his crew want to do this? I mean the team was already pushed to the limits (refer to the Making of MGS4 Bonus Blu Ray, ah I forgot, YOU CANT) And do you know, by making this game exclusive to PS3, Kojima Studios actually save a lot of budget in terms of game costs and the licensing fees?Ah, its like talking business to Little Gray


Windows Mobile is an OS, not a hardware. So far I have not seen MS producing any mobile phones. In MGS4, the mobile phones were from Sony Ericsson. OS and hardware are different. Oh, does MS makes PC too?

Here is your prize.



Thanks for that. Now that seals the deal, it stays on PS3. So I have wasted my time replying you all this while I hope you realized that the link that you posted just backfired

Here is my advise, you know nothing of marketing deals, Intellectual property, contracts and MGS4, and bottom line, you dont even have a PS3. So why should I bother replying your post since you always get entangled by your emotions? Forums are places that we discuss facts, not emotions or make baseless assumptions. You notice anybody with you on the subject? Ever wondered why? Your arguments are too weak to be here.These people need your help more

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Jun 22 2008, 10:47 PM

Thank you for disliking me, and how much I have to pay you for that? And keep the personal insult coming buddy, keep'em coming. At least I am trying to be the matured one here

No, thats bot the reason. You dont know, dont pretend you know like how you pretend you know MGS4 or the marketing logic of it

So says the poster who reffered my English in the same standard of PS hawkers Nak tukar cerita pulak

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I do not own one, but one started such topic that MGS4 should be ported to xbox360 or not means i have my right to  reply.

Aww, I was under the impression you own one, since you assume this and that This topic is about the games and the blu ray capacity, not how many dvd9s we need for modern gaming. And you sir, failed miserably at that.

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You're losing your rationale just because someone challenged your worthy PS3. Accept that.

Am keeping and maintaining my cool, look at who is insulting fanboys etc, was it me? And I challenge your so called facts, please do try to understand that. Otherwise I better debate with a monkey than, since I see no difference here. And for the record, the bolded word there is not very, how to say this without hurting your little feeling, ah, intelligent

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I promised the mods not to reply you in an insulting way.

Looks like you have broken your promise

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So lets bring your own idea to your fanbase.

what??

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Look at your fellow friend, he's good enough to admit his misunderstanding but you will not. Who entangled with emotionS?

Where did I misunderstand you? As I recall, you called me names and accused me of flamebaiting 360 chaps, and when I asked for proof, you are dead silent. FYI, I have a lot of buddies gaming with 360, and we exchange ideas there and then, in fact I am planning to get one this August since its CPF refund month, you know , waiting for Gears of War to be ported to PS3 is just plain idiocy

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P.S, Please read my hyperlink properly, 2nd paragraph clearly states that the reason for Konami to port it to xbox360. Your over confidence just backfired your once again 

Aww, show it to me. Please. Let me see if you really understand whats the article all about

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My arguements are weak just because you disagree.

good one! And Do you know why I disagree in the first place? You have any points or any logical, or any knowledge to back your arguments?

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Everyone that read your comments over my terminal says you're trolling -- with baseless point.

Well, I dont need any friends of mine to tell me, this guy has no clue on what he is typing, I have my own power to understand and need no second opinion about you.

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Nakata101,

we all know this snake that hide in an empty barrel, he's just trolling and annoying xbox360 fans. He never learn from his mistake & never admit he's wrong.

I do not hide. I fired you again and again, and you returned the shots with blanks. And what mistake? Please show me the mistake.. 360 fas? The only fans that I see agitated here are you and your tag team buddy there The others are enjoying their LiVE to the max!

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We'd better stop replying him.

Looks like I have proven my point here.

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Added on June 23, 2008, 11:10 amand to add to that, you dont even know the difference between OS and hardware..isnt that just hillarious

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Added on June 23, 2008, 11:12 am

QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Jun 23 2008, 10:55 AM)

Weird, i see only one troll here and it's not a snake, it's a cat!  Worse still the fella still failed to back up his own 'factual' information but kept fill in old news and assumptions all this while. Yawn~ 

bro, next week aku balik KL..Yamchar?

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Jun 23 2008, 11:21 AM

itulah, aku ingat nak ajak kau, tot, si fakir minum2 sekali. bapak lama aku tak balik KL..oh nostalgia..kalo clear nanti aku kontek. Bukan apa, aku takut kene OS ke Jakarta lagik..