2? try five

and referring to all the in game reference and ads on sony and apple, fat chance in hell.

if they want to port it, they has to do ALOT of thing beside porting the code. and i dont think Kojima Production want to spend that amount of time for porting a game. Better for them to create a new game instead

precisely. after the amount of effort for MGS4, i prefer the team to rest and make new IP

where? this is news certainly to millions of MGS fans .

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Added on June 22, 2008, 10:12 amto add to that, since the game heavily advertised Sony, Sony Ericcsson, Apple products, speaking from a marketing and legal perspective, its impossible(unless MS is willing to pay Sony and Apple). Take them out? Snake uses DS3 to control MK11, and listens to iPod, even some of the game elements depends on the product, so if we think rationally, can the game work without them?No.

i'm with u here. there are too many playstation references in mgs4 that if M$ really wants it for their xbox360, they have to cut their d**ks off!

see?


1. Notice the word: DEMONot the full game, but DEMO

2. Notice the date of the article? The date?
Read this on the most recent denial from Kojima of this game going to 360

3.
Because its very obvious you will have major have problems if you include your competitors' brands and products inside the product(without proper compensation) This is not a fiasco. This is called patented rights. Google that up. Do you honestly think MS will pay Sony and Apple for the rights for those products' appearance in the game? I am very sure, Sony and Apple will have no problems but you can bet the price will not be financially logical for MS. It does not take a marketing manager to know this, a simple read or knowledge on Products' Rights and Patented Licensing will do the trick. And if you have not noticed, you have been running around calling everybody a fanboy. Yes, i AM A FANBOY. But I am an MGS  Fanboy.It takes one to know one, remember that. And notice nobody is defending or at least being by your side? Because they know that your arguments are extremely weak.

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Added on June 22, 2008, 3:55 pm
Friend, this is the problem nowadays. These kinds of people, the nearest experience that they have for this game is from Youtube.

hey, i'm a rational man. and i apply logic to my way of thinking. porting mgs4 to x360 is next to impossible. and pls, if anyone wants to talk nonsense about "mgs4 will eventually come to x360", u've to seriously play the game. u'll know what i mean by "playstation references"...
aww... come on man, don't just give away some ultimatum without any reasons. if u really wanna discuss the possibility of mgs4 being ported to the x360 PLS give a valid reason. if ur going to be like that, i can also follow suit:

"hey, gears of war 2 will eventually come to ps3 what?"

"no, u dumb***. it's completely owned by Microsoft"

"well, why not for ps3 if the Producer said it is possible?
Except if marketing decide to pull it off from ps3 forever..... and obviously, you're not the microsoft/epic games marketing leader"

u get what i mean?

Friend, this is the problem nowadays. These kinds of people, the nearest experience that they have for this game is from Youtube.

Well, in your initial post, you didnt say anythijng about you knowing it was a bout a demo
You do know the meaning of showcase right? As in REAL TIME VIDEO demonstration? You have any videos to back that statement? and at last, you took account of the media limitation. No wonder you didnt answer my question regarding the ability of HD DVD of games.
Maybe you didnt click the hyperlink.Read the first statement in the third paragraph. Not denial per se, but that is a how people refuse or deny things in the corporate world, the world I am involved in. Well, it DOES take a slight marketing knowledge to understand his euphemism.  And, do take a look on the date of both articles. Date is also a major factor, if now NST and Berita Harian can go bankrupt.
a) Please read the 'patented rights' thingy to save yourself the embarrassments. You need to know that patented rights and timed exclusives are two DIFFERENT things.
b) We are talking about consoles, not PC. and Snake Eater has never been on PC.
c) You have the choice, regarding the name calling. I will not stoop to your level as its pathetic.
a)Good to know where you stand by yourself.
b)Regarding the Youtube, I didnt refer to you, but you know lah, like Malay proverb, siapa makan cili dia yang terasa pedasnya

Thats why.

    we're not talking about time-exclusive games here. we're talking about "patented rights". dude, obviously u haven't played mgs4. there're way too many playstation and apple gadgets in that game. do u think apple and sony will just sit on their asses and do nothing if ever Konami wants to port mgs4 to x360? and knowing M$, they won't and i tell u, won't ever in hell promote rival brands on their games. that's just plain stupid. n u don't need to be a marketing executive to be able to understand that.

my advice: go play mgs4 NOW, before u start talking nonsense again. don't have a ps3? BUY or borrow one

well, u don't think i have SOME friends who sang praises to the ps3 (in it's game department of course)?
speculation? yeah, the real world is revolved around speculation ain't it? guess who started it? come on dude, if u're talking about speculation, we're talking about facts. speculation vs facts. i think u know who wins. REALITY is, there won't be any port of mgs4 to the x360. period! M$ marketing executive isn't that stupid u know. and about ubisoft advertising different brands, do u think sony and apple are of the same brands? we're talking about RIVALLING brands here, not brands WITH COMMON INTERESTS...    

edit: ok, my bad for mistakenly reading ur words, sorry for that. but, excluding something that drives a game is impossible. and believe me, apple and playstation gadgets do drive mgs4. that's why i've repeatedly told u to play the game before u start throwing these 'rubbish'. save urself the embarassment

I only know it still TBA 2008.......

well, to be honest, i wasn't completely awed by its graphics. nothing that i haven't seen

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Added on June 22, 2008, 6:08 pm

dude, u completely have no idea what mgs4 is. so, i suggest PLEASE and PLEASE and PLEASE go play the game. u've completely made a fool out of urself now

well, it's hard to put it in words. let's just say that playstation and apple 'references' are very heavy in the game that it's impossible to port it to rivalling brands. and pls, u CAN'T take it out. mgs4 wont be mgs4 without them

that's why i have repeatedly told u to play the game. to see it for urself. people who constantly talks about porting mgs4 to x360 OBVIOUSLY haven't played the game till the very end. so, pls refrain urself from being like them. play the game first. and after that if u still wanna defend the notion "mgs4 will be ported to x360", THEN we can have a healthy discussion..

no, the 'references' are from the start to the very end of the game. hey, i don't think x360 isn't able to play mgs4. it's just that it's impossible for the game to be ported, bcos of the things that i've said earlier. this is what i and sniper have been pointing out

dun la discuss here, later some people will ask is Big Boss face camo copyrighted too

Where did I post this? Ah you and your assumptions
awww...now with no facts, you call me arrogant ,here is a tip buddy, polish up your english we gave facts but you gave assumptions. and your failure to differentiate 'timed exclusive and product copyrights is somewhat...saddening Maybe you are to deep  learning system code error, no worries man, I feel for ya

it seems like you REALLY want to play, MGS4, while, let me help you with that



Enjoy!

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Added on June 22, 2008, 7:49 pm


I think you need to know several Apple products in the game :

iMac, iPod.

Sony
Sony PS3, Sony PSP, DS3

Sonyerricsson:
The phones Naomi and Vamp use

If you throw away iPod and DS3, how can Snake listen to the downloadable Podcasts and control MG MK11?
Some people just crack me up.

Please keep emotions out of this. Hyperlinks not reflect the situation at all? My my, you need not only to the 1119 class, but basic grammar too.
Which one I deny, please DO SHOW IT TO ME. You have said I was mocking some fanboys? Where is the post?
where do I do such thing? And where do I blame anyone?
where? Care to show me the post they stated the cause of the ban?
Since I know the reason, yes I am
And what do you reckon that topic means? Do you have a PS3 to begin with? If you do not, why on earth are you even posting?Last time I checked, this topic is about PS3 owners' comment about the BD's full capacity not being utilized.
Thank you for that. And please be informed, I need no grammar checker or a spell check You might want to recheck the bolded words I have for you.
and who is going to re render that (lets just say somewhere in LALA Land, where legal contracts and marketing deals DOESN'T APPLY) while we are on topic, since the development of MGS4 was already sponsored by Sony and Apple, who will bear the cost now? If, and let me rephrase that, if you know anything about marketing contracts,  partnership deals , these kinds of , in laymen terms edits, must involve the game, being built by scratch up, with no budgets from Sony or Apple. And lets not begin fitting the content in like 5 dvd9s? Do you think, as a company, Kojima and his crew want to do this? I mean the team was already pushed to the limits (refer to the Making of MGS4 Bonus Blu Ray, ah I forgot, YOU CANT) And do you know, by making this game exclusive to PS3, Kojima Studios actually save a lot of budget in terms of game costs and the licensing fees?Ah, its like talking business to Little Gray
Windows Mobile is an OS, not a hardware. So far I have not seen MS producing any mobile phones. In MGS4, the mobile phones were from Sony Ericsson. OS and hardware are different. Oh, does MS makes PC too?
Here is your prize.


Thanks for that. Now that seals the deal, it stays on PS3. So I have wasted my time replying you all this while   I hope you realized that the link that you posted just backfired

Here is my advise, you know nothing of marketing deals, Intellectual property, contracts and MGS4, and bottom line, you dont even have a PS3. So why should I bother replying your post since you always get entangled by your emotions? Forums are places that we discuss facts, not emotions or make baseless assumptions. You notice anybody with you on the subject? Ever wondered why? Your arguments are too weak to be here.These people need your help more

Friend or not, but fact remains a fact and assumptions is still assumptions... it's okay to be unimformed but to be ignorant yet arrogant is totally out of the question. Keep that in mind.