Wimax itself in Malaysia is not yet proven to be profitable.

Actually I a bit doubt on some broadband offered outside of the original telco company, wireless broadband is facing several compeitition, streamyx, 3G, Wimax. While current market is dominated by ADSL (streamyx) and 3G connection, for Wimax to penetrate into them is not easy task, especially not from origin telco company backing.

Broadband business in Malaysia even some other countries are not that lucrative, you need large base of customers which is the most important factor to offset high set up cost for broadband service.

While HP business is a lucrative business.

I might be wrong, feel free to correct me.

I support your statement.

As an internet user, free Wi-Fi is available nationwide, I don't know how do they profit maybe eateries cafe offer it to get more customer, I don't really mind of the speed as long as I can stay connected outside, but if I really need to download anything I would have use my home ADSL instead of Wi-Fi or even a faster WiMax cause I know the speed sucks + delay + different location different results of the Wireless connection provided.. Unless they can introduce a more stable wireless connection that can beat a home line.

I've used Digi and Celcom wireless, randomly WiFi outside, tested at different location with speedtest.net the ping is much more higher than home line. Well this is just a view from online gamer myself xD

Well, there is a big congestion for 3G wireless broadband lines in the heart of KL, especially when the financial markets are open.

I have a Celcom 3G low end data line , hardly able to access in places like Bkt Bintang financial area.

Outside KL a bit like Selangor, have better access ( not congested ).

The potential of 3G broad band is there, though at infant stage and low speed of max 3.6, whereas in overseas is at 7.2.

My home WiFI for notebook is as good and fast as PCs linked through ntework cable ( as per the speed test meter ).

My home Wifi though out dated allows 54 mbps ( a few years back ) , whereas the internet speed is far below 54mbps.

The problem does not arise fr computer equipments, but largely due to the internet speed provided by service providers.

Wimax claims higher speed than ASDL, but do not know any congestions or so bcos it is still new.

By the way. 3G modems are selling very well in Lowyat.net.

3G has the advantage of portability , just like HP over fixed line. Good to access financial news, sending emails. do internet banking etc while on the moves.

Maybe able to google the location maps , before searching for potential clients' places.

3G data line is fixed cost with unlimited usage, another advantage over HP calls.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 21 2009, 06:32 PM

I would like to add this:

WIMAX is deemed as a solution for last mile connection. Countries like Singapore would not have any last mile connectivity problem because island is small, major population lives in high rise apartment, obstruction to line of sight which limits WIMAX coverage.

IMO, Gpacket may not be benefiting if they roll out their WIMAX services in Singapore. BUT, my doubts are why would Singapore wants to issue WIMAX spectrum when they already have so many wifi hot spots available. It would be wasting the spectrum resources, unless of course Singapore wants major telcos in the world venturing into WIMAX to make Singapore as their testing ground.

My humble 2 cents opinion.

Gpacket subsidiary company P1 won chile wimax license
http://www.bnamericas.com/news/telecommuni...oadband_project

won license... share price dip... darn.. tried catching it at 0.925.. missed the boat when it suddenly dipped to 0.92... trying to average out the ones I bot at 0.96sen...

No matter how many license one is getting, without turning into a profitability or the business is not profitability, it means nothing.
It just mean high initial capital expenditure only to set up infrastructure if those business is not able to contribute positively especially cashflow, then it is not good for its share price.

True Cherroy... during bad times, these sort of news will not generate interest.. but during good times.. profit is not an issue.. getting the license is like getting a golden goose.. it will just fly... but today, its like getting poison.. .

Agree during good time, it will fly, but still in actual fact, Wimax profitability still is a doubt, as it is not a sole media or broadband that available in the market which need to compete with others especially 3G is more popular now while being offered by traditional telco company which smaller company that offering Wimax is facing tough competition with them.

GPacket is at 0.82 today

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Wait till streamyx launches its high spead broadband. Speed from 8GBps to 10GBps. They have already installed in my area. I can't wait.

I'm 1 out of 2 subscribers who are really happy with Streamyx. Customer service is getting better. Connection is stable, fast, and I hardly have problems.

Are you getting wrong section? We are discussing the share of GPacket. Not discussing the internet speed

If you refer to speed offered by P1, the sub of GPacket, you'd see that they wont be able to compete. Internet speed, coverage, price are what makes the product mix. Am I wrong to say that?

P1 needs 3 years to win a decent market share. If that takes so long, why the rush to buy it now? They can do it by either making their product damn good or damn cheap. Cheap oso must look at area, if they had coverage at rural areas, they could at least beat TM since their lowest speed package is priced lower than Steamyx. But obviously due to cost concerns, they can only cover urban areas where there are more sophisticated and slightly wealthier internet users who would prefer something faster than 384kp/s.

I've had a long write up on this GP in another thread, will cut and paste if you'd like. This is more indepth, with competitor mix and stuff. But if you are going to get defensive, then it beats the need for discussion. Cheers and good luck.

Right now P1 is facing so much problem with their service

They stop the dongle due to firmware issue.
The connection speed drop when heavy rain.
The infra work seem like suddenly stop, they edi backlog since early this year.
YTLE is now testing their own wimax, now only for thier own corp use, tie with samsung and quite a few GP staff jump ship to YTLE, expect them to start launching very soon.
Seems the company very kelam kabut in their operation.

Really thanks for you info. I was misunderstood your point.

It's ok. Sometimes misunderstandings can occur. Plus, I simply type such a short message only, cos I was replying from another thread that got closed because repeated. So my fault oso for not being clear.

I can't find the thing i posted up. But I think cherroy probably wrote a lot thats about the same as my point.

You may choose to buy Gpacket if the price goes down a lot a lot to goreng. I think today dropped a bit plus its been sliding down anyways. Tomorrow might drop a lot more. But you must wait for market to improve, trading volume to improve and wait for the goreng kakis to come first.

I don't think its suitable for long term. There's no rush to buy if a company only can be expected to make decent profit in 3 years time. Especially since this prolongement would mean they have to deal with operational costs and interests from debt. Interest from debt can kill a company.

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Added on May 28, 2009, 7:46 pmAre u using WiMax? So it's bad? I only heard from friends who knows friends who have these. So get their feedback, but very third party so dunno if its really that bad.

This post has been edited by omores: May 28 2009, 07:46 PM

the services quality will only steady in next 4years.

in the end WiMax sucks..
lets see how http://www.ytlesolutions.com/ manage to overcome all the problem that now P1 is facing..
if YTL manage to overcome.. then walah... we should be investing on YTL instead of GPACKET

I participate when testing the dongle last year, use for 2 months, actually I like the dongle pretty much. Fren working at P1

how stupid i sold off all my latexx at 0.95 an bought 130lots GP the day before the Latexx share surge to 1.20. lose a change to earn RM2k++
However, i will continue keep the share and see what happen next. Too many bad news from GP now, the share will continue to shrink, plan to buy in more to average the price. 0.60 is the lowest price in past 12months, if hit 0.60 again, i think i should sell off my share to cut loss.