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post May 30 2008, 11:40 PM, updated 18y ago

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A hamster is a rodent belonging to the subfamily Cricetinae. There are 5 types of hamsters, mainly the Syrian, Winter white dwarf, Russian campbell dwarf, Chinese hamsters and Roborovski hamsters.

SPECIES:

Syrians (Mesocricetus auratus)
They are the best known species in the pet industry. Syrians are also known as Golden Hamsters. Syrians are known as fancy hamsters of all the hamster species since they come in many colour varieties and also coat varieties... some can have long fur and some short fur, which we normally call Long Hairs and Short Hairs... also there is a fur type known as Rex.

The most important rule about Syrians is that they are SOLITARY... never house 2 together. If breeding, there is a way where you must put the female into the male's cage only when the female is on heat. It is very risky and dangerous to house 2 syrians together at any time since they are very well known to fight till death. So if you treasure the life of your hamster, never put 2 syrians together.

Syrians are large and comfortable to hold. They do make suitable pets for children but under adult supervision.

Campbell's Hamster (Phodopus campbelli)
Campbells are probably the most popular of all dwarf hamsters since they come in many colour varieties that makes them attractive. The look similar to Winter White hamsters but they are actually different subspecies. So never mixbreed them.

Campbells are dwarfs... well, small hamsters. Please do not be fooled by petshops telling you mini hamsters and giving you a weird price. Anyway, they come in different colour and patterns but to breed, one must understand that hamsters that have any white spots or markings must never be bred together coz it can produce eyeless or teethless hamsters that die later... so if you were to breed, please read up.

These dwarfs may not be suitable for young children due to some dwarfs are bitey... and because of their small size, it would be harder for children to handle. Campbells are not aggressive biters, it is just that sometimes they will bite when you make them angry or startle them from their sleep.

Winter White Hamster (Phodopus sungorus)
WW are hamsters that can change their coat colour when we minimise their daylight. Their coats will change from their normal colours to a white coat but with their dorsal stripe and side arches visible. WW come in 3 colours, which are Agouti, Sapphire and Pearl. The Pearl do not change their coat colour at all, they remain in their white coat colour for life.

WW are different from Campbells, their eyes are bigger, fur is thicker, body is more bullet shape and their ears are less conspicious. It is easy to see the difference if a Campbell and WW were side by side.

WWs are nicer to handle for they have better temperments than Campbells. WW rarely change into their winter coats in captivity, so do not force your hamster to starve and stay in a cold room... this depends on the hamster whether it wants to change or not.

Roborovski Hamster (Phodopus roborovskii)
Robos are the smallest species of hamster. Adult Robos are only 2 inches in lenght. Unlike the other dwarfs, Robos do not have a dorsal stripe and they have slightly longer legs. Easy to identify from the size and also its sandy colour and white belly.

Yes, the smallest and also the fastest, this species is very well known for being very fast and active. So they are not very handle friendly since they are likely to jump or run off your palm. Many are really attracted by the facial markings, they appear to have "eyebrows".

Robos enjoy sand baths and a wheel. Due to their small size, one would need to purchase a glass/plastic tank to house them or purchase cages with small bars like the Habitrail Mini...

Chinese Hamster (Cricetulus griseus)
The Chinese hamster is known for their mousy looks. Yes, they were discovered in China long ago. Many people would say Chinese hamsters are hard to breed in captivity and are difficult to raise. Fighting problems occur so it is best to house them seperately. The Chinese hamster is also referred to as a "mouse-like" hamster because of its short nose, thin body, stocky legs and longer tail.

They do make great pets if they are bred by a proper breeder and have been handled often when young.


VERY IMPORTANT!!!!

- Most hamsters do very well alone. Roborovski hamsters can be kept in small groups and best if single sexed but Syrians, Campbells, Winter Whites and Chinese hamsters are best kept on their own. They are always happier that way.

- Never breed hamsters if you do not have the space. Hamsters can reproduce every 20 days or so.

- Hamster fights are never fun to watch.

- Always remember to have food and water available. Never give too much fresh foods.

- The bigger the cage or tank, the more comfortable for the hamster.

- Syrians need wheels that are about 8 inches in diameter.

- NEVER keep different species in 1 cage or tank together... BIG big trouble there, may have some injuries, deaths... and possibility of mixbreeding Campbells with WW... bad idea.

- Hamsters do not have human emotion, they do not feel Love or have emotional feelings like humans. So there really is no reason to breed them unless you have a purpose as a true hamster breeder.

- Hamsters can get sick easily if given too much fresh foods like fruits and vegetables.



Anything to add in the 1st page, just PM me.


Added on February 26, 2007, 1:56 amPictures of the different hamster species with some example of a few colour varieties.

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Thank you to Reanne and |sorcerer| for their chinese hamsters and roborovski pictures.

One way to hold a hamster if it bites or to look at it's genital area clearly. Never do this for long since it is a bit uncomfortable for the hamster. Only for a short period.
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Useful links (credit to Acey)The Hamster Name Generator (thanks to Gazard7)

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Lowyat.net Siggy (free to use, a big thank you to Hao tongue.gif ):
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Added on February 26, 2007, 9:25 pmA Basic Guide

* Hamsters are very active creatures so they do need their excercise. Naturally energetic, hamster love to run so it is best to provide a good solid wheel for them. Makre sure it is a solid wheel and not those mesh wheels since those gaps can cause injuries. Syrians should have 8 inch diameter wheels while dwarfs can have smaller ones.

* Hamsters are nocturnal, meaning they are mostly active at night. During the day, they would need some peace and quiet to sleep so it is highly recommended to place the cage or tank away from direct sunlight and provide them with a hide such as a clay flower pot or aroma burner or any solid looking hamster houses available at petshops.

* Hamsters need a layer of quality bedding in their tanks. You can always get the wood shaving variety but you would need to change the bedding often. Recommended brands would be Chipsi Classic, Chipsi Super, Delikate and Kaytee. Avoid using other brands for pine and cedar wood can cause breathing problems later in life due to the phenol oils produced by the wood. One can also use corncob bedding, wood pellets like Woody Pet or Careline wood cat litter or recycled paper bedding/litter like CareFresh or Breeder's Select/Celect.

* Hamsters love to nibble on hay and also build nest in their hide box for comfort. So providing a bit of hay is good. Any hay is suitable, as long it is fresh looking(greenish). Avoid stale hay(brownish).

* Hamsters should have a good amount of food in their food bowls. You do not need to worry about hamsters not finishing their food for they will hoard away old food to eat later. Make sure fresh foods are cleaned out of the cage or tank after 24 hours.
- Good source of fiber would be broccoli, spinach, sawi(choy sum), kangkung and water cress. Do feed fresh foods in moderation since too much can cause wet tail sickness and indigestion. A small piece of vegie or fruit is enough for 1 day.
- Sweet potato and normal potato can be given but only give cooked potatos.
- Sweet fruits and carrots can be given in small quantities every few days.
- Hard boiled eggs, scrambled eggs, cooked chicken and cooked fish can be fed.

* Have a good quality bottle for water at hand. Cheap bottles tend to leak.

* Wash the hamster cage or tank once in a week. Just wash with some mild soapy water. Clean cages and tanks prevents the risk of getting infections.

* Hamsters do not need to bath with water and soap like humans. Hamsters can clean themselves very well and they enjoy having sand baths (Chincilla or hamster sandbath) more than getting wet. A wet hamster can fall sick easily.

* Handle your hamster daily. Build a relationship with your hamster. You can hold them, talk to them and pat them. These little gestures will keep your hamster tame and friendly and of course, happy.

* Never wake up sleeping hamsters since they can startle easily and give a nasty bite to protect themselves. This is an instinct reaction so do not blame a hamster for being aggressive... they bite when there is a reason to bite.

* Always wash your hands after handling hamsters for they are still from the rodent family. Keep your self healthy for your hamster smile.gif


QUOTE(bizen @ May 30 2007, 05:26 PM)
blink.gif  I found some articles and 1 of it is about hamsters... I bought it a few years back when I am still in high school  laugh.gif ... and I would like to share it with everyone here  tongue.gif 

Here is the link:

Hamster Guide 01

Hamster Guide 02

Hamster Guide 03

Hamster Guide 04

Have fun reading  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Neshie, you at Wangsa Maju rite? Wanna go hamster hunting with me?
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Such good timing. LOL. I'm going to do some Syrian hamster hunting this Monday. Gonna check out a few petshops. If you guys wanna follow, then come loh. Will be visiting Petaling Street and Pet Family, 2 places.
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QUOTE(neshie @ May 31 2008, 10:20 PM)
wah monday ah. maybe can. tongue.gif but only petalling street gwa. cause i have to go to pavillion at 1pm for class outing. what time will u be going =/ Lrt right?  biggrin.gif
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Oh, timing not so good LOL... I go to Pet Family first.

QUOTE(JonYeap @ May 31 2008, 10:21 PM)
haha... monday i will be on the way back to melaka. so will drop by subang jaya area. i want follow hun... but i dunno where to go. haha... coz i only know how to drive till subang jaya. =.=
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I only know how to take LRT.... so to direct you I would be hopeless. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vergas @ Jun 1 2008, 09:55 AM)
Guys and girls,

How do you normally feed dried food for your hamster? Since hamster normally have their favourite grain and less favourite, eg my syrian don't like the pallet and my RCs don't like corn, do you let them finished the portion that they dont like? or top up with new mix? and end up with piles of grain that they don't like?
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It is normal. Alfalfa pellets do not taste nice, so hamsters rarely eat that. Corn, if never eat is ok coz the nutrition is not that great if compared with alfalfa pellets. I usually top up the food when I see very little is left. This is also one of the reasons why we must feed fresh foods, they gain more nutrition and stay healthy.

QUOTE(neshie @ Jun 1 2008, 10:31 AM)
anyone going with crazymouse on monday to hunt for hamsters?
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If Monday cannot, you give me a day loh. Tuesday and Wednesday I can't lah.

QUOTE(mikelim2020 @ Jun 1 2008, 10:47 AM)
i would love to.. but i duno him oso...  biggrin.gif and i tot he has a lot of hamster?? why dont u go his house 4 hunting tongue.gif
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Neshie also dunno me. I don't breed Syrians so none is for sale mah. I go hamster hunting to look for rare or nicely structured Syrians.
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Rare means rare colour loh. Well structured means nice face and body. It is hard to find Syrians with nice face and body coz normally I find alot of sharp faced ones.

Neshie, I need to confirm with you later coz I dunno Wednesday I will be free or not.

Today Ikano got Sugar Glider talk and sugar glider handling session. Starts at 4pm.
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Sadly, Petster didn't organize a hamster talk or gerbil talk. So our Sugar Glider talk starts at 4pm. Come lah, can see gliders and play with them. Yesterday started at 2pm but not many people. So we try 4pm today.
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PLease do not spam with good mornings or I want to go to somewhere or out to lunch or chatting kinda of post. This is a thread to share about hamsters, so stick with the topic.
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How do you know is rex? From your pic, that is short haired lah. Rex got different testure fur. Feels like velvet and the whiskers is short and curly.
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Liquid Vitamins when mixed with water, lose their beneficial properties very fast. So it is better to feed a variety of veggies and fruits or Nezu's smoothies. Powdered vitamins is much better and have a longer shelf life.


Added on June 2, 2008, 2:36 pmWhat brand is your vitamins? Delikate? Change to a better quality of food lah.

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Check the whiskers... curly or straight? Curly means like those instant noodles curl.
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OH, Sera.... the supplement is ok but alot of Sera stock for small animals are old stock.... means there is a chance that the vitamin you use would not be beneficial after a certain period. When did you start using it? Did you check the expiry date?
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QUOTE(IcedNyior @ Jun 2 2008, 03:02 PM)
for the worm thingy rite..is it the same as the one they sell in the fish shops? I only hv one hamster so takkan wana buy the worms and keep? can keep or not? Seems like a bit rugi to buy lots
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Buy minimum is RM1. And it is a lot for 1 hamster. Yes you can keep but you must feed them. Read up on gutloading mealworms and keeping mealworms. Google.

QUOTE(harukotsuchiya @ Jun 2 2008, 03:05 PM)
of course i already check the expiry date.. that is the most important thing to check, expired on 08 of 2012.
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Good. Lucky loh. I saw many expired ones sometimes still on sale for customers.
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Those black and white are RC.

IN malaysia, black banded syrian is very rare coz black is a different gene. Sable is more common.
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Your Syrian is short haired and short haired with bad structure will look like mouse loh.
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Jun 2 2008, 03:38 PM)
bad structure? T_T
sob sob... but he is very cute... his structure is bad?
i am devestated
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Bad structure means the breeding was just cin cai breeding lah. Face sharp... that's normal with syrians. When we choose a syrian, should look for those with a bear like face. Mousey or ratty look is just coz face too long.

QUOTE(Helena1509 @ Jun 2 2008, 03:43 PM)
Black n white only for RC?Cz i got 3 black n white RC,1 dove,1 white n 2 black v little white markings
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Yes RC.

QUOTE(JonYeap @ Jun 2 2008, 03:43 PM)
yes i love him even more now. but i just kinda sad coz he has a bad structure. damn feels like i am gonna cry. no no cannot. tahan tahan. guy cannot cry!


Added on June 2, 2008, 3:44 pmlooks like it cannot be as big or like normal syrian. its just a weird looking hamster
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It can be big if you give more fresh foods. And it is not gonna die lah. LOL.... it is just sharp face.

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