what else to measure on engine performance if not hp and torque? male or female engine?
that is the 4G18 engine is design for, it's city driving engine and it's not performance engine. As i mentioned no way 4G18 is better then campro in terms of performance. If u happen to browse through the factory chart of torque, it's not dip. It's just flatten all the way from 2000rpm to 2500rpm before it start to climb again. if u compare to 4G18 it start to drop from 2500rpm to 3500 rpm then flatten all the way from 3500rpm to 4500rpm and it up again a little from 4500rpm to 5500rpm. the different is campro flatten for 500rpm while 4G18 flatten 1000rpm.
the last few post is talking about performance, therefore it's all about performance.
that is max hp not max torque.

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Added on August 22, 2008, 10:43 pmhey...anyone use this type of alarm?
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2008-08D...omplete_Set.htm

http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2008-08D...REE_POSTAGE.htm

the key is suitable for waja? i look at the BLIZT type, the key pattern like not the same.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/769870

Interested on going car detailing this sunday?hehe..

Too expensive for me... (actually, no money  )

Why not get those 2-way alarm. Quite effective and can get quite cheap also. 

hmmm....that's strange about the chart. I hope proton chart is showing manual tranny and mine is also manual tranny.

Or perhaps since they selling CPS and now they reveal the true dyno result of campro to show the big difference hahahaha.

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Added on August 22, 2008, 11:01 pm

the problem is I wish to have only 1 key with remote built in. Any recomendation for any brand that similar?

That maybe true also:lol: ..but isn't those chart is obtain at the crank, no transmission attach. If connected to transmission, got another 15% drop. 

Why you want only one key? Isn't it better to have spares? 

that's right the result is on crank, or maybe different dyno, temperature & humidity gives different result.

yes i do.....but mine Gen2 is auto.

You said in your previous post yours is auto  One more reason Proton can 'cheat' the torque dip is by ECU mapping (like how Gen.2 and Waja got different characteristic although using same engune) and adjusting the TCU (like what they done in Persona).

Thinking of changing my wiper long time ago, spoil d..
But still dilemma which to go for, silicone or rubber..

so good ka silicone one....
it clean up water better than normal one like bosch?

to me it's better, the only downside is when the windscreen don't have much water it will create irritating squeaking noise. but it's real clean. If u saw the wiping has some line, all u need to do is wipe it with cloth and it's back to normal 

hmmm....that's strange about the chart. I hope proton chart is showing manual tranny and mine is also manual tranny.

Or perhaps since they selling CPS and now they reveal the true dyno result of campro to show the big difference hahahaha.

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Added on August 22, 2008, 11:01 pm

the problem is I wish to have only 1 key with remote built in. Any recomendation for any brand that similar?

yea mine gen2 is auto and waja is auto as well. Earlier post I mentioned auto? Did I?

Thinking of changing my wiper long time ago, spoil d..
But still dilemma which to go for, silicone or rubber..

the silicon is almost the same either brand it will be, the only different is silicon maker. As far as i know if the silicon material is dowcorning brand it might more reliable. But we never know.

RM78 for a pair is quite cheap, i remember did saw the PIAA brand and it cost RM115/pc.