Once you are married, do you have the right to get sex from your spouse whether he/she wants it or not?
Can a husband "rape" his wife? and vice versa..., the classic controversy
Can a husband "rape" his wife? and vice versa..., the classic controversy
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May 16 2008, 03:37 PM, updated 18y ago
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Once you are married, do you have the right to get sex from your spouse whether he/she wants it or not?
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May 16 2008, 04:51 PM
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LOL.Husband and wife it's not call as rape.husband and wife sex are legal and official.if husband or wife don't want then next time lo.don't force.
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May 16 2008, 04:57 PM
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IIRC...even within marriage, one still could be sued if there is violence and aggression used to achieve that...so, yup
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May 16 2008, 04:59 PM
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please use google. you can get lots of info on google.
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May 16 2008, 05:00 PM
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tat is call SM
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May 16 2008, 05:02 PM
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if go against the will of your spouse to have sex, still consider rape.
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May 16 2008, 07:13 PM
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You might get sex ban by the courts for a period of time if your wife sue you as you forced her to have sex.
Against her will, still considered rape. |
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May 16 2008, 07:53 PM
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yes why not .... wife also can rape the husband le ...
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May 16 2008, 09:07 PM
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May 16 2008, 10:15 PM
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if the she/he dont want to have sex and then he/she force to do it. yes, in Malaysia law can sue the husband for the rape charge. last time this kind of incident happened in newspaper...
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May 16 2008, 10:54 PM
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wat about depriving him of sex
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May 17 2008, 05:02 AM
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force him to telan vgr?? ehem... it help to induce Nitric Oxide secretion anyway...
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May 17 2008, 07:22 AM
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noleh. if the wife "no have mood" to make love with her husband.
but the husband force her, then it can become "rape case".haha but in reality it is happen. the wife can sue her husband at court.wahahah wat kind of world is tat. next time make sure ur wife also "need" before u make love with her.. |
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May 17 2008, 01:14 PM
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sexual abuse lol
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May 17 2008, 02:00 PM
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sum country there is rape in marriage
dont force!!! |
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May 17 2008, 06:39 PM
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if i'm not mistaken, women groups in malaysia are still fighting for that amendment in the law, that rapes happens in marriages.
put it this way; how would the dude like it, if his wife ties him up, shoves something -big- up his butt without any form of lubricant or consent? that's pretty much rape for the guy-sense... |
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Vice Versa? LoL? Rape me please.
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May 17 2008, 08:54 PM
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yes a husband can rape his wife.
rape is constituted as sex without consent. and no he has no right to get sex if his wife doesn't want it. he doesn't own her. |
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May 17 2008, 08:58 PM
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kopi kapal api.. betul betul kaw..
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May 17 2008, 09:10 PM
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i think msian laws dont protect wifes... there's no law to prosecute husband rapist... especially with shariah laws..
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May 18 2008, 02:54 PM
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make it easy.... if wife dun wan... dun force... later kena jailed... so.. if she dun wan go out side and search for 2nd wife... easy.. no need to get sued for some silly wife. If you dun wan to have someone tied u up ... then look for hooker.. pay and done..
and wifes... face it.. u look for it... |
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May 19 2008, 11:59 PM
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XDDXDDD why asking? someone want to have fun and the other one dunwan?
try seducing la |
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May 20 2008, 12:11 AM
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May 20 2008, 10:52 AM
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in england law there is marital rape and M'sia is slowly implying this law soon
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May 22 2008, 12:24 PM
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Malaysia everything also follow ppl one la...
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May 23 2008, 12:55 PM
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I think most girl who marry her man should have love....and with love I don' think girsl will reject their husband.
Anyway, a husband should not force her wife to get into this if she don't want it, with love as well. =) |
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Sep 18 2008, 04:40 AM
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in malaysia, it is not consider as rape if the husband had sexual intercourse with his wife, married by a valid marriage(valid marriage means according to law la). (this statment falls under M'sian Penal Code section 375, exception, try to search for it, and u will see ), which means tat if against her will, it will also be not amount to rape !!! because it is valid under Penal Code!!
but if the husband causes hurt or fear of death or hurt to his wife, in order to have sexual intercourse, he may be imprisonment for a term which may extend to five years.( Penal code section 375A , recently amended) look carefully into the section, it does not even stated that under section 375A, it is rape, it just stated that the husband may be imprisonment. therefore, in malaysia context, there is no such thing as MARITAL RAPE Added on September 18, 2008, 4:51 amas for rape by wife or be generally by woman. it is impossible to be done, according to Penal Code. it is because, section 375 define rape as: a man has sexual intercourse with a woman without her consent, against her will ..... and etc ( can refer urself) take note: a man has sexual intercourse with a woman, NOT a person forcing another person to have sexual intercourse!! it stated specific the gender, male but not male or female!!! which means tat, under Malaysia context , only men can rape a woman, woman can not rape man. even if there is really a case which a woman rape a man, the woman will not be prosecuted for rape because lack of authority !!!! gals, its ur good chance now ~~~ This post has been edited by pain_pain: Sep 18 2008, 10:31 AM |
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Sep 18 2008, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(SadGuy2 @ May 18 2008, 02:54 PM) make it easy.... if wife dun wan... dun force... later kena jailed... so.. if she dun wan go out side and search for 2nd wife... easy.. no need to get sued for some silly wife. If you dun wan to have someone tied u up ... then look for hooker.. pay and done.. haha.. thats cool dude.. but make sure u have more money for another 1 split and wifes... face it.. u look for it... |
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Sep 18 2008, 11:41 AM
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wow, gal can rape guy... who want do me 1st?
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Sep 22 2008, 07:58 PM
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buaya detected... -)
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wife just give & take lor...
husband also dont lebih lebih... ask for more (pepsi adv) |
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Sep 25 2008, 02:30 PM
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haha funny topic, I join! if wife doesn't like to be "rape", then seperate with him lol
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Sep 25 2008, 05:12 PM
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Usually when a man want to have sex with his wife but wife don't let. It shouldn't harm the dude... after all its just 1 day =)?
But if the man is desperate for sex, I think there is always external factor causing it like work stress, etc, etc. I read about it in Reader Digest where a man want to have sex with her wife to feel "control" and a "winner" because at his workplace, he is receiving a lot of stress by his boss, etc. After a while his wife feel there's no love and doesn't want to have any intercourse with him which cause him to depress. (Wife please understand that when man want and no get, he get depress like a 4 years old kid. So at least reassure him or hint him that its just not today, you will his mood very differently) |
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Sep 26 2008, 11:21 AM
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Husband & wife cannot classified as rape even forcing...but its applicable if involve violence act.... Gf & bf can classified as rape when forcing occurs... |
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Sep 26 2008, 01:49 PM
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yes, if it's by force, it's still consider rape.
i remember some wife suing the husband for raping few years back |
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Sep 27 2008, 12:46 AM
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both r required to fulfilled each others responsibility, ie men provide food on the table and a roof to live under, then wife to jaga "makan & minum" suami la.
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Sep 28 2008, 06:26 AM
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love each doesnt mean rape la...huhu...
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Sep 28 2008, 04:57 PM
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sex is all about love..
both of u should enjoy it.. n not only one party enjoy all.. |
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Polis: whats with all diz commotion, bising tau tak! neighbour complain lu abuse maid...
husband: my wife lah, she's very noisy when...um buat cinta wife yells: he raped me.....rogol!!! husband: uhh....both of us like to play 'rape', syiok mah......and she's good at acting.....tengok sampai skrang pun berlakon hehe Polis: Ish.....kalau mau main rendahkan volume....neighbour lu sudah complain ni Husband: KK, no problem.....kita main diam diam....kerja kat luar stress mah Polis: Kalau isteri tak boleh control, tape dia punye mulut Husband: yaya...will do, bro....umm 'cik Polis: Ok lah...ingat! Play safe!! *husband close door, continue to rape session* |
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Read case R v R.
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Sep 29 2008, 01:22 PM
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having sex forcefully and without the wife's consent is oonsidered rape now.
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Sep 29 2008, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(pain_pain @ Sep 18 2008, 04:40 AM) in malaysia, it is not consider as rape if the husband had sexual intercourse with his wife, married by a valid marriage(valid marriage means according to law la). (this statment falls under M'sian Penal Code section 375, exception, try to search for it, and u will see ), which means tat if against her will, it will also be not amount to rape !!! because it is valid under Penal Code!! CASE CLOSED!but if the husband causes hurt or fear of death or hurt to his wife, in order to have sexual intercourse, he may be imprisonment for a term which may extend to five years.( Penal code section 375A , recently amended) look carefully into the section, it does not even stated that under section 375A, it is rape, it just stated that the husband may be imprisonment. therefore, in malaysia context, there is no such thing as MARITAL RAPE Added on September 18, 2008, 4:51 amas for rape by wife or be generally by woman. it is impossible to be done, according to Penal Code. it is because, section 375 define rape as: a man has sexual intercourse with a woman without her consent, against her will ..... and etc ( can refer urself) take note: a man has sexual intercourse with a woman, NOT a person forcing another person to have sexual intercourse!! it stated specific the gender, male but not male or female!!! which means tat, under Malaysia context , only men can rape a woman, woman can not rape man. even if there is really a case which a woman rape a man, the woman will not be prosecuted for rape because lack of authority !!!! gals, its ur good chance now ~~~ |
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haha!!!this topic so funny..but have 1001 meaning inside it..never rape if husband n wife...dont go to police report o go to court if this case happen to u...must get the rite think,isteri yang tak nak do sex wit his hubby is isteri yang baru lepas bersalin..
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Oct 8 2008, 11:47 PM
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Not sure about msia but:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spousal_rape No its not allowed even though couples are married Its not enjoyable when the other party is not willing also come to think about it |
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I prefer "rape with consent".
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I remember watching the news, the wife can charge the husband if he forces her to have sex(rape) .
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Now this is interesting. A woman can legally rape a man
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wooo hoooo, gal rape guy !
Sure it a dream come true for every guys in the world Sexual assault ? i read a newspaper once, some arab ( forgot then where ad, but remember it middle east ) sue 2 woman for raping him by kidnapping him and have sex with him while being tied up on a chair ! So lucky already, now want sue the woman ! |
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QUOTE(rapeace @ Oct 23 2008, 07:37 PM) wooo hoooo, gal rape guy ! Your nickname.. whoa.. rape-ace..Sure it a dream come true for every guys in the world Sexual assault ? i read a newspaper once, some arab ( forgot then where ad, but remember it middle east ) sue 2 woman for raping him by kidnapping him and have sex with him while being tied up on a chair ! So lucky already, now want sue the woman ! |
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lol
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Oct 26 2008, 09:50 PM
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yup, rape is considered even in marriage bond. so long as it is "forced" without consent or agreement then its considered rape. but the sad fact is that most of the time the b**t**d get away with it cause if the girl give in halfway not considered de. furthermore if syariah law, need 4 men to witness rape case. sad....
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yeah..agree...in law,a wife can say NO to his husband!!if not,can be considered as rape...btw im studying english law so in malaysia i dunno...=)
and in english law,meaning uk law,a girl cannot Rape a guy..tis is becoz the definition of rape is "the accused penetrates the victim's vagina/anus/mouth with accused's penis and the victim does not consent.." even if she at first consent but on the half way say No,the guy will be guilty of rape also,coz in law penetration is a continuing act..the consent cant be withdrawn at anytime of it,if not,= rape... a women can only be guilty of Assault by penetration and its defined as penetration of victim's vagina/anus with any part of the body/anything else and victim does not consent and the penetration is sexual...but tis will not include penetration of mouth haha..sorry..seemed teaching criminal law here d..=) This post has been edited by baobei16: Nov 4 2008, 01:03 PM |
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i dont think marital rape is a crime in malaysia. as far as i know, the penal code doesnt say anything about marital rape except for certain situations, which means that a husband can force his wife to have sex and get away with it
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QUOTE(seen @ May 16 2008, 03:37 PM) Once you are married, do you have the right to get sex from your spouse whether he/she wants it or not? No such thing la. As long there is NO CONSENT, there is rape, whether married or not. Ppl just don't know their legal rights. Added on November 5, 2008, 11:49 am QUOTE(insouciance @ Nov 4 2008, 05:14 PM) i dont think marital rape is a crime in malaysia. as far as i know, the penal code doesnt say anything about marital rape except for certain situations, which means that a husband can force his wife to have sex and get away with it Malaysia shd update her laws then. This post has been edited by shecapricorn: Nov 5 2008, 11:49 AM |
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rape thing very hard to enforce, it ilegal of cos but you need prove.
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if you want to do sex but your spouse refused, just wait la..buy something for her or candle light dinner, be romantic sure got no problem after that..be patient..if she still refused then slow talk..ok?
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Nov 18 2008, 08:09 PM
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If wife wants to rape me.....rape lor.....just don't beat me.....
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Force no happiness
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QUOTE(rapeace @ Oct 23 2008, 07:37 PM) wooo hoooo, gal rape guy ! you sure you wanna being rape? what if your neighbour untie rape you?? i bet you will cry.... hahahaSure it a dream come true for every guys in the world Sexual assault ? i read a newspaper once, some arab ( forgot then where ad, but remember it middle east ) sue 2 woman for raping him by kidnapping him and have sex with him while being tied up on a chair ! So lucky already, now want sue the woman ! QUOTE(exploda @ Nov 18 2008, 08:09 PM) when comes to rape... i think they wont think what action they will take.... dont beat la.... but cubit you, scratch you and etc.... |
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QUOTE(yayastreet @ Nov 20 2008, 11:15 AM) when comes to rape... i think they wont think what action they will take.... dont beat la.... but cubit you, scratch you and etc.... Hahaha was kidding oni nia. But anyway, mutual respect is needed. NO means NO. Even with ur wife.But if your wife not giving you any at all for like so many years.......then I can understand why the husband might 'cari makan' elsewhere lor. |
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There was an episode of Oprah about this. Wives who were raped by their husbands. It was on tv last week.
As long as there is no consent, it is considered rape. |
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well i think sex should be agreed by both parties and forceful sex is called rape.so yes,husband and rape wife and wife can rape husband,still it sounds strange
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how female rape male when the ding dong not up?? curious.
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nowadays, a 'nope' means 'no' to rape. unless da female is enjoy with that kind of sex. actually is simple, if husband want to rape his wife, & wife enjoy it, then thats ok, no harm. but either 1 is not enjoying that kind of sex, that means 'no'. sometimes guys has forgotten that 'sex' should be gentle & sweet, not bloody violence...shame on me as a guy saying like this...haihhh...
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a rape is still a rape doesn't matter if it is within a marriage or not.
non consensual sex always constitutes a rape |
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Dec 20 2008, 05:44 PM
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it cannot said is rape lo..
but if he like hie wife,when she say no.. he should not force her lo.. |
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of cz no. this is crime le, even she is his wife.
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QUOTE(eyez98 @ Dec 20 2008, 04:28 PM) a rape is still a rape doesn't matter if it is within a marriage or not. That is incorrect. Legally, in Malaysia, a husband cannot rape his wife. non consensual sex always constitutes a rape However, this does not mean that the husband cannot be charged with other offences such as assault. |
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