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 2008 Mazda6 2.5 vs 2008 Accord 2.4, Compare 2 hot models from Honda & Mazda

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post Jul 14 2008, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(amir_iskandar @ Jul 14 2008, 05:23 PM)
mazda6 being tuned


Whoa... notworthy.gif Thanks for the pics. Looks like dark purple / maroon colour?

Any interior pics? Where was this taken?


Added on July 14, 2008, 9:55 pm
QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 14 2008, 08:10 PM)
Mazda6 called me today, they have issues on the JPJ site. (dont know what issue) Car delivery delay another 3days cry.gif


Eh, your Mazda6 can call and talk to you? biggrin.gif

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post Jul 15 2008, 05:21 AM

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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Jul 14 2008, 11:20 PM)
My new Honda just took me one day to settle JPJ registration. Maybe your salesman never bribe them. This is what my SA told me that by bribing, everything can be done in 1 day. But surprisingly, only 1/2 day.


What complications can arrise when you want to register a CKD Honda at JPJ? whistling.gif


Added on July 15, 2008, 5:24 am
QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jul 14 2008, 10:20 PM)
I m getting suspicious with this Bermaz. I suppose to get the car this week but my salesman gives all sort of different excuses..I suspect is more on Bermaz side that screw up...


Things like chassis number and description different than the actual car? hmm.gif

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post Jul 19 2008, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Jul 15 2008, 10:56 AM)
Looks like you're looking down on me. I know Mazda CBU is better than my Honda CKD, but this is true. I'm speaking the truth.
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Not looking down on you. Just stating facts. My sincere apologies if I sounded I was looking down on you.

Anyway, you need to see that Honda Malaysia been in auto business in MY for very much longer time than Bermaz has and the "experience" and "network" that has been built in the system and people at JPJ. If you ask JPJ officer to register a Accord, he'll know exactly what it looks like but if you ask them to register a Mazda6, he'll probably scratch his head trying to figure out how the car looks like ! biggrin.gif

OK, looks like a quite a number of people have already gotten their Mazda6 already? Any show of hands? thumbup.gif
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post Jul 21 2008, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 20 2008, 10:40 AM)
Sunlight sensor for air cond temp control, Rain/light sensor for auto on/off light and wiper. parking sensor for 360 degree. When ur car move too near to touch and go toll. I actually heard little beep warning telling my car is too near to something. (about less than 6 inch from car body)


Congrats billytong. biggrin.gif I booked mine after the BTS roadshow. Hopefully it comes in one or two weeks time.
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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Jul 21 2008, 04:21 PM)
yaka ? road tax price drop liao ?
my alphard is 2.4 and its already RM800+ and so's my 2.2 accord which is RM 599 p.a.

u mean to tell me your mazda cars are subsidised by the garmen ?
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If you didn't already know, all cars above 2.0L are entitled to a RM 400 rebate. So the 2.5L Mazda6 which is suppose to be RM 879 (individual) would be RM 479 after the rebate.
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post Jul 21 2008, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Jul 21 2008, 05:37 PM)
straight direct from jpj m'sia itself. so yes i dont know all cars above 2.0L are entitled to RM400 and i dont know where your sos came from and i do know that you are bullshitting. true ?


Not bullshitting. Just wrongly informed. Thats' all. A person like me sometimes allowed for some errors. No need for the sacarstic remarks. smile.gif

So are you still convinced that you're paying RM 800++ road tax for your Alphard? biggrin.gif


Added on July 21, 2008, 10:26 pm
QUOTE(genkis3 @ Jul 21 2008, 09:09 PM)
but the already paid can't get cash refund via pos office rite?


Thanks to sharkteef's posted link;

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6) Bagi pemilik kenderaan yang telah memperbaharui LKM dan mula berkuatkuasa mulai 1 Jun sehingga 23 Jun 2008, bayaran perbezaan antara kadar lama dan baru boleh  dilakukan dengan mengemukakan permohonan di mana-mana Pejabat JPJ Negeri dan Pejabat JPJ Cawangan yang berdekatan mulai 23 Jun 2008.

7) Permohonan bayaran balik LKM boleh dikemukakan oleh pemilik sendiri atau wakil dengan menyertakan bersama dokumen-dokumen seperti berikut:-

Salinan fotostat buku bank/ penyata bank (1 salinan)
Salinan kad pengenalan pemilik (1 salinan)
Salinan kad pengenalan wakil (jika wakil hadir) (1 salinan)
Borang JPJ K6  Borang JPJK6 (1 salinan)

Borang JPJ K6 boleh didapati di semua pejabat JPJ atau boleh dimuat turun melalui website JPJ di alamat www.jpj.gov.my. Bayaran balik akan dikreditkan terus ke akaun bank yang disertakan.


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post Jul 23 2008, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 23 2008, 01:18 AM)
of course honda accord new Version la. totally out of 10 if VS with honda accord. go watch the youtube official video about honda features.
thats worth to buy. Honda car will always the best in city and highway driving and its quality is proven. JAPANESE car only 0.02 defect. thats a greatest score!
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Honda features? Best city and highway driving? Quality proven? 0.02 defect?

Are you disillusioned? None of the above applies to our CKD Accord. Chances are you've watch an Euro Accord video on youtube.

Please do a test drive on both cars and them come here to make your own informed assessment instead of going on youtube with a herd mentality.
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post Jul 23 2008, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 23 2008, 09:46 AM)
As for Engine noise, I recall there is someone in this thread saying the engine noise is a problem. Wth! I barely heard the engine noise even I press my pedal. Even the wind noise from outside + the radio can easily cover up the engine noise. That guy who complain must have ultra sensitive microphone ear OR he is a honda fan guy who simply say something out from nothing.


Aiyah Billy, probably after years of getting used to the Kembara, anything also would would sound silent to you. laugh.gif


Added on July 23, 2008, 3:24 pm
QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jul 23 2008, 02:39 PM)
Billy, just took my baby home..the car is really fantastic and outstanding. Did you check your tyre pressure? Went straight to pump petrol and check the tyre pressure, guess what..the pressure was 50psi!!!instead of the recommended 32 psi. I presume since the car from Japan, they have to pump in higher pressure as the car will take some time before it reaches the owner. If you have not, then it must be the pressure that makes your car so bumpy..


iceman, congrats ! Making me more envious now. cry.gif

Heck, shouldn't the PDI check all things like proper inflated tyre pressure? whistling.gif


Added on July 23, 2008, 3:26 pm
QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 23 2008, 03:10 PM)
deng I didnt check the tyre lah. dont know what psi it has lol.


Just get a digital tyre gauge (RM 30) from Carefour and you can check yourself.

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QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Jul 23 2008, 05:14 PM)
YOU GUYS BOUGHT THE WRONG CAR! tongue.gif
http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/to...487&whichpage=2

you wont admit the m6 beats the mercs will you laugh.gif
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Firstly, you quoted from a love sick Honda lover that compares Audis and Mercedes to be inferior to his Honda. doh.gif Are you going to take his word seriously while other Honda owners themselves in the thread hantam him because comparing the Accord to continentals? hmm.gif

Mercs, like other continentals are a different pedigree. Please create a separate thread if you want to compare Japanese cars like Mazda and Accord vs continentals.

Don't spite people for the wrong reasons because they've got a wonderful car. smile.gif

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post Jul 23 2008, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Jul 23 2008, 06:00 PM)
doh.gif sarcasm doesnt work on mazda drivers doh.gif

nevermind, forget it
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Accept my sincere apologies. Sorry for jumping the gun. Admitedly, I did not go in detail to actually know what message you wanted to convey. I guess I was a little dense after reading lazogirlz's reply and moreover you quoted the joker who wrote that in MTM forum.
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QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jul 24 2008, 10:45 AM)
Aiyo...in the first place you shouldnt bring Munich here la....Check his head, all with the letter 'H' only...If you guy go to MT, you can see how I had a long spar with him in the Accord vs Mazda 6 topic. He can go round and tell everyone...'you guys are so unwise for not choosing Accord' it is even better than Audi and Mercedes...
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Actually, there's one thread recently made by kizuna6.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=733910

Perhaps we can use that.
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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Jul 27 2008, 04:23 AM)
melampau and melebih to say that. if u dont respect people's thread you can GTFO.


I think if you want to caution other people about respecting other people's thread, you should start respecting billytong by being polite with your choice of words. smile.gif
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QUOTE(apisgogo @ Jul 27 2008, 02:54 AM)
hope i got lucky, so my next car would be a mazda.. hehe smile.gif


Love at first sight eh? wub.gif

Wait till you test drive the 6. Zoom zoom ! rclxm9.gif


Added on July 30, 2008, 1:46 am
QUOTE(sharkteef @ Jul 30 2008, 01:43 AM)
or i could have hit the report button which i didnt.


The report button is there for you to use it wisely and up to the mods to decide if it's warranted. It's not our style to take matters into our hands by creating friction. Cheers.

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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Jul 30 2008, 01:56 AM)
to jchue73 - i think u failed to see the lines properly and hence took the liberty of highlighting it in red for your eyes. it might be a mistake for me to say that the "WE" refers to you and him ? no ? now move along and back on topic.


You don't have to highlight it in red for me (or we/us as in the collective public ! rolleyes.gif ). I'm not colour blind. I can perfectly read it and admittedly, to some people, billytong's sentence may sound arrogant. But like I mentioned, if you are not pleased with his sentence, please report the post to the mods (report me too if you think "we" refers to me and him biggrin.gif ) and not take it personally by hurling abuse.

It would have been no issue for me if you had politely remarked him.

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QUOTE(Phantom Renegade @ Jul 30 2008, 07:35 AM)
How many HP did this Mazda 6 sports??


I'll post this again if you did not see it. HP information is listed in the comparison list below.

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            New Mazda 6 (2.5L)                               New Accord (2.4L)
Origin          :     Japan (CBU)                      Malaysia (CKD)
Price           :     RM 175,570.20.- OTR              RM171,800.- OTR  
Engine          :     4 Cylinder DOHC 16-Valve S-VT    4 Cylinder DOHC 16-Valve i-VTEC
HP/rpm          :     170/6000                         180/6500                            
Torque          :     226Nm@4000rpm                    222Nm@4300rpm
Rim             :     18 inches 225/45                 17inches 225/50
Fuel tank       :     64L                              70L
Transmission    :     5 Speed                          5 speed
Ignition        :     Push Start Button                Key
Turning Radius  :     5.3m                             5.65m
Kerb Weight     :     1385kg                           1525kg
Dimension       :     4755(L)x1795(W)x1440(H)mm        4945(L)x1845(W)x1475(H)mm
Audio System    :     BOSE 6speaker with Subwoofer     Premium Audio 6speaker with subwoofer socket
Airbags         :     6                                4
Seat            :     Leather                          Leather
Braking/Safety  :     ABS, EBD, EBA, DSC, AFS          ABS, EBD, BA, VSA
Sunroof         :     Yes                              No
Spoilers        :     Included                         Price adder RM 5,560 (Modulo accessories)




Added on July 30, 2008, 1:26 pm
QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 30 2008, 12:35 PM)
Btw, Jchue got your car yet?  tongue.gif


Don't rub it in ok? cry.gif If I got the car, I would probably be zoom zooming around with it. nod.gif

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Touche... biggrin.gif But aren't we all allowed a little sarcarsm as a lowest form of wit?

Auto magazine articles also have it not to mention Top Gear who calls a spade a spade. No offence. biggrin.gif
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Don't confuse sarcarsm with direct bashing. There is a difference when you do it in style and when you blatantly do it for the sake of doing it.

Besides, it's just over a car ! rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jul 31 2008, 10:53 AM)
Feature-wise we all know M6 have  far more than what Accord/Camry offered. I think many ppl misunderstood that Accord in the luxury market and should have more comfort than M6..
MY definition of comfort should include NVH, handling and acceleration, good sound system..add to this Mazda 6 has day/night rear vision mirror, its a powered mirror that automatically dim the light from the cars behind you thus reduce glare to the driver, even the car behind with high beam it will cut the glare..talking about pampering!! Mazda 6 clearly beats Accord easily in almost every area...again my personal opinion after tested Accord and driven my Mazda 6.


Nicely put. smile.gif

QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jul 31 2008, 10:53 AM)
The only concern is the service center which is quite inexperience with this car..but I was told to go to authorised dealers where they are more experience...i will have to agree also the resale value will not be better than Accord...but this M6 should be better now since the demand is much higher plus the loads of features than the previous M6. Good resale value reflected from high volume sales...again my personal opinion. If only more ppl know what this M6 offer, they buy it and resale value will go up..IMHO.


These days, there's no such thing as good resale value for cars. Be it a Honda, Mazda or a Toyota. Especially if you're looking to sell it after 5 years.

But getting a bang for the buck in terms of sheer driving pleasure for the money spent, priceless. nod.gif That's most important thing to feel in any car you buy.

As for the SCs, I think none of the auto manufacturer are up to standard unfortunately. Hopefully, Bermaz gets better with more experience and time.
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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Jul 31 2008, 12:37 PM)
Did I mention about direct bashing? hmm.gif


If's it's not direct bashing, why be so sensitive then? rolleyes.gif

If you owned an Accord or own some Honda shares, I might be sympathetic to your plight since iceman's sarcastic may be seen to cause your Accord resale value or your Honda shares to drop. But I don't see that happening. Cheers.


Added on July 31, 2008, 12:52 pm
QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Jul 31 2008, 12:47 PM)
Let's give Bermaz 5 years (till the next GE) to improve. You'll be able to see their performance.


Ok, I must admit that that's a good attempt at sarcarsm. Congrats. rclxms.gif I musn't be biased to Mazda folks and must give credit where it's due. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Jul 31 2008, 12:52 PM)
No, I don't see my resale value dropped. Just not satisfied with the way he talks only. So move on.


Just to make this back on topic, rolleyes.gif, do you drive an Accord? What's your feedback on the car? Maybe you know something we don't. Please share.

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