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post Jul 11 2012, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(pergilahsayang @ Jul 11 2012, 06:40 PM)
Im in a pinch, please give some input  laugh.gif

Started investing in pittikal with manager recommendation for 2 years. I realized that pittikal does not suit my preference. Mainly because its a moderate fund. And this fund is lagging behind recently.To date, i earn like 6.5% per year (even though there is a spike in our economy these past few weeks).

then I invested to PITSEQ to grab the promo price and the fact that its aggressive fund. To date, I gain 5-6% already even the fund only launched less than a year. Boleh tahan lah.

My plan for the future:

Actually my plan now want  to put most of my money to 100% steady local fund , i had my eyes on Kenanga Syariah Growth. And the remaining $ i'll put in PITSEQ. Somewhat conservative lah majority in local with some foreign exposure.

So the question:

1) I want to let go of pittikal. Should i sell now? hold a lil bit longer? or switch to PITSEQ as it perform nicely to date (but i seriously think switching from equity - equity is impractical) 

2) Should I sell pittikal and open Kenanga syariah now?

3) Hold everything first and wait ?
My gut telling me that its not suitable to open kenanga now (as our CI is at all time high). Now to decide what to do with my pittikal  hmm.gif
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option 3 is better for time being. or lock profit at bond funds.

personal opinion;
p ittikal is one of the pioneer/best islamic fund from PM. and u only invest for less than 2 yrs. so, let it be.
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post Jul 13 2012, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jul 13 2012, 07:11 PM)
After doing some quick research, these are the EPF funds which I think doing good: Public Dividend Select Fund, Public Focus Select Fund, Public Growth Fund, Public Islamic Dividend Fund, Public Islamic Equity Fund, Public Islamic Optimal Growth Fund, Public Islamic Select Treasures Fund, Public Regular Savings Fund

My friend want to get start to invest public mutual for the first time. Trying to recommend her a good fund. Any opinion? She is medium risk taker type
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no recommend...but.. suggestion only....
Public Dividend Select Fund,
Public Growth Fund,
Public Islamic Dividend Fund,
Public Regular Savings Fund,
public saving fund,
p ittikal fund,
p index fund,

ask her to read the prospectus first for the involved risk.



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post Jul 16 2012, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ Jul 16 2012, 01:46 PM)
You can consider Public Islamic Select Enterprises too. The only public islamic mutual fund awarded 5 star morningstar rating for now besides the already closed Public Islamic Sector Select.  smile.gif
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PISEF is aggressif.. our freand asking for medium/moderate funds.
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post Jul 24 2012, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 24 2012, 02:45 PM)
Tahu pun rolleyes.gif
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
as long EPF ada, im loyal to local markets. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Jul 24 2012, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 24 2012, 02:56 PM)
You do realize that EPF is using YOUR money to boost the share market so that YOU feel good right?  rolleyes.gif
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but i never missed to withdraw my epf every 3 monthss... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

wat i mean is invst in local funds where epf support it. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 31 2012, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(Monkey79 @ Jul 30 2012, 11:55 PM)
when invested knew nothing, only because the agent told me the unit price dropped half and it was the best time to enter so dump 10k inside in Nov 2008..then continue DCA till the past April. When the agent suggested the switch, he only mentioned just need my signature and by next April I'll receive dividends. There questions came across my mind... if that's the case he should have asked me to join PRSF at the very beginning... so I dragged his appointment. not gonna sign anything before I know more about UT. Currently, I've decided to stay after identifying my objectives... long-term investment and capital growth. I'm not making any loss at the moment, if the unit price goes back to its 52-week highest which is around 0.2..my capital gain will be 50%!! So, by that time I can consider switching part of it to dividend fund to lock my capital gain there.
Si foo, pls enlighten me whether I'm on the right track. Thanks.
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what is ur cost per unit?
cost per unit = total amount u invest / ur total units.
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post Aug 1 2012, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Monkey79 @ Aug 1 2012, 02:21 PM)
Are u Mr. Param from kclau website? If yes, u've answered me there. Thanks again.
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yes.
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post Aug 4 2012, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Aug 4 2012, 01:33 AM)
hey guys.

i really need some advice on investment plan.i just started working,and this is my 3rd month.for the first month,i only use 30% of my salary balance about 2.5k.my 2nd month just recieve recently,i expect ill save almost the same amount + some allowances will be around 3.5k..my asb already max,just registerd PVS with maybank..readabout mutual funds,but the service +managing cost is quite high..any other investmend that suitable for me ? thanks.
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what is PVS?

u cannot escape from SC and others charge/fees from mutual funds. u can get lowest SC from FSM.

i believe u hv max $ in ASB, emergency funds is not issue for u. plan wisely abt ur other commitment before commit for mutual funds. some time dont focus too much on charge/fees..... educate urself how to max ur returns in any investment u do.

its better u start with small amount on regular investment instead put a large lump sum. if u below 30, and a passive investor, force urself to save ur money in mutual funds monthly.
choose the funds which is match with ur risk tolerance. normaly for equity funds, the expactation around 7 to 10% compounded return in long run. if u get 5%, its still better than FD saving, if u get more than 10%, take it as bonus.


basicaly accumulating units is more important in mutual funds. what is ur goal. income or capital gain.

income is u get distribution income annualy and spend it. (bond/MM/dividend funds)
u need to hv more units to receive more income annualy.

capital gain - focus on capital appreciation in long run.
same if u hv more units, the gain is higher.

so, try to accumulate more units towards ur retirement and transfer ur money to income funds to receive income annualy.

so, u hv to plan how many mil units u need to hv for ur future.

simple example;
bonds funds can give at least 5 sen per units.
let say ur monthly expences RM5k = rm60k annualy

rm60k / rm0.05 = 1,200,000 units. which is equel to around rm1.2mil.

so, u hv to invest in equity fund until u achieve rm1.2mil and switch to bond funds for annual income.

if u start early and re-invest the distributions(compounding interest), u may achive the units with lower invested amount than rm1.2 mil.

u can choose wahtever methods,...... DCA,VCA and any other methods u know to achieve ur targets.


for short term, dont invest in mutual fund.

make sure u and ur wealth, well protected with insurance.

my suggetion/sharing only.


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post Aug 5 2012, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Aug 4 2012, 11:09 AM)
what a very good advise from u bro.thumbs up.  thumbup.gif

PVS=http://www.maybank2u.com.my/mbb_info/m2u/public/personalDetail04.do?channelId=INV-Investment&cntTypeId=0&cntKey=INS03.07&programId=INS03-InvestmentLinked&chCatId=/mbb/Personal/INV-Investment

investment is a new subject for me.so pls bare with me..mind explain the highlight text ? or u can point anylink,so i could do my homework first before we go deeper..  nod.gif
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the highlight only an example.

1. u hv to set goal how much u need in the future in unit trust.
2. work on it.

try this... http://www.publicmutual.com.my/InvestmentP...Calculator.aspx




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post Aug 6 2012, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Aug 6 2012, 12:18 AM)
yup as in u have units in kenanga growth bro ? thanks
mind sharing which fund u invested in ? sure thanks bro.
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i hv more than 10 acc/funds in PM funds.

PSF,
PIX,
PIDF,
PSSF,
PISSF,
PISEF,
PITTIKAL,
PAGF,
PISTF,
PIOGF,
PRSF,
PIEF,
PDSF
PSBF,


I'm investing since 2007 and regular top up every 3 month. mainly from epf. i keep my stop lost at 10-15% for switching to bond funds. luckly never reach 15% since 2009.
but hv paper lost in 2008. but recover back.
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post Aug 6 2012, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(silentemotion @ Aug 6 2012, 11:37 PM)
Mind to share why investing in so many funds?


Added on August 6, 2012, 11:38 pm

Is it? Mind to share the stocks investment portfolio of this funds?
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initialy when i become UTC, i simply hantam all the funds which going to decalre dividedns/distribution.my mistakes...... waiting for right time to switch to 4 to 5 acc only. if i c no bad affect, plan to leave it.

another reason is as a UTC, i believe shud hv diversified to more funds. my another mistake.
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post Aug 7 2012, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 7 2012, 12:00 PM)
Guys, got a question...

E.g. Fund ABC goes ex-distribution today, then I sell the fund before the distribution units is credited into my account...will I get paid in cash for the distribution? Or its "lost"? hmm.gif

E.g.
06-Aug-12 Ex-divvy
07-Aug-12 Sell all
27-Aug-12 Distribution is credited to unitholders
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u will get all. ur distribution will be in difff cheque.
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post Aug 7 2012, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 7 2012, 01:51 PM)
oops doh.gif

maby I should add on some points

i elect to reinvest
then I sell during ex-divvy period

what will happen to the distribution? the FM will pay me in cheque?
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NO, they will bank-in the amount to my saving acc rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

just joking,..... no worries, they will issue another cheque for the distribution.
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post Aug 7 2012, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 7 2012, 06:15 PM)
just asked on FSM...

thru FSM, in such situation, the divvy will be credited back to the fund

so u gotta perform another sale transaction to clear it off and get cash
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its maybe FSM is an agent.. not UTMC.

my thought only.
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post Aug 13 2012, 11:23 AM

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Bullish on fixed income products.

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM.../allys/Article/
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post Aug 14 2012, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ Aug 14 2012, 06:27 PM)
We do not know leh... Now most economy heated edi..
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LOCAL MARKET, almost touching the ceiling, BE-CARE-FULLLLLLLL
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post Aug 19 2012, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Aug 19 2012, 10:22 PM)
guys...pls help educate me...why mutual fund want to announce dividends and then eventually the NAV is the same?
i mean, they give you 'dividend' units...but then as usual..the price of the fund will be lowered...

why do this in the first place? anyone really understand how this works? does it really benefit consumers like us?

thanks!
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read how to calcualte unit trust in my signature.

dividends or in UT term distribution is given as income from the fund.
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post Aug 20 2012, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Aug 20 2012, 11:59 AM)
thanks....means I understand correctly that it is meaningless and just focus on the actual dollar value growth!
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2 types of benefits from UT.

1. capital growth.
2. income.

if u young and want to grow ur wealth, go for funds which focus on capital growth.

if u retiree, go for income funds. capital growth is 2nd priority.

distribution is meaningless for growth, but it is important for those look for annual income for spending.

lets say if u manage to grow the value abt RM1mil, upon u retire, switch money to income fudns like bond. assume 1 unit rm1, and u may hv 1mil units. assume 5 sen declare as distribution annualy. u may get rm50k whcih can spend it annualy.

not all the retiree will switch to bond funds, some still stick with growth/equity funds and the distribution is meaning for them too. some may hv more than 1 mil units which can give more income annualy if still 5 sen declared as income.

so, in UT, the more units u hv, its may give more capital growth and more income respectively.
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QUOTE(kaitokid @ Aug 20 2012, 06:42 PM)
Hello,

I have RM50k to invest, still young looking to increase my capital growth.
Willing to invest up to 5 years.
soo sifus, some questions:
1. How much gain am I looking at in 5 years?
2. How do I choose a unit trust? What should I look out for? Any recommendation?
3. Can I gain more by investing in different banks unit trust?
4. Is there such thing as dividen paying long term investments without buying stocks?
5. Should I focus on one investment, or spread out to others? (gold, stocks, etc.)

Newbie here,
thank you for any pointers.
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read the given prospectus at least 3 times for better understanding abt unit trust.

http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...tA%3d&tabid=105

for the current market condition, inveting rm50k lump sump is not a good idea. better split it and cannot confirm abt the returns for the next 5 yrs. for me its still short term. the longer the better for the rewards. and it depends on the fund performance. u need to choose which fund is cater for ur investment objective which is capital growht with ur risk tolerance.
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post Aug 20 2012, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(tcchuin @ Aug 20 2012, 06:59 PM)
how do I know which funds concentrate on capital growth or income?

what's the difference between them?
If a fund gives out dividend monthly, I can still invest all the dividend to the fund, is that correct?
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read the funds objective and difference in prospectus http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...tA%3d&tabid=105

dividedns only declare annualy(if any) and u can re-invest it without any issue.

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