Definitely Santa Cruz, 3.5M with that kind of goal ratio? I don't think anyone can argue with that.
Discussion Season 07/08 Best Buy, who do u think?
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 May 16 2008, 11:23 AM
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May 16 2008, 11:31 AM
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Alright so we weight cost to goals ratio for strikers. What about goalkeepers, defenders and midfielders?
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May 16 2008, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 16 2008, 11:31 AM) Alright so we weight cost to goals ratio for strikers. What about goalkeepers, defenders and midfielders? Clean Sheets, saves, assists, fouls, season appearance? |
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May 16 2008, 07:35 PM
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May 17 2008, 02:12 AM
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but, undeniably, Torres did bring in sumthing new into Liverpool's attacking force...
n the 26M might be a bargain too if he continues his form for a long long run... then his goals/ratio would increase too... common, u cant expect Torres to come for 5M right ? |
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May 17 2008, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 16 2008, 11:09 AM) I completely agree. Expectations of Torres was high despite him only scoring once in three games for Atletico. There were no expectation of Santa Cruz. There was therefore more pressure on Torres to perform as all eyes were on him. Andy Gray paid him a huge compliment by claiming he was the complete centre forward and when a bluenose says that, you know this kids special. Santa Cruz was given little attention much like Benni McCarthy in his first season. Now that there are expectations, let's see if he performs in his 2nd season. McCarthy himself has moved down the pecking order near the end of the season behind Jason Roberts. Yup,now that there are expectations of santa cruz, we shall see whether he still performs at the same level or not. I believe torres will, no doubt. If you talking about the long run, torres is the better buy, definitely. But this season? santa cruz gets the award. |
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May 17 2008, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(-Nos- @ May 16 2008, 12:10 PM) Clean Sheets, saves, assists, fouls, season appearance? In my opinion, you have to look beyond statistics because numbers don't always tell the whole story. If they could, all anyone would need to do is look at the stats sheet to pick the winner, much like how you buy players in Football Manager without having seen the player in the flesh. |
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May 17 2008, 01:47 PM
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man, this arguement could go on until next season...
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May 18 2008, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(<Kenji> @ May 17 2008, 01:47 PM) man, this arguement could go on until next season... Well, it's like asking a capitalist what he thinks about communism and a communist what he thinks about capitalism... there won't be a satisfactory answer for everyone... Those who said Torres, fair enough. Those who said Santa Cruz, fair enough. |
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May 18 2008, 07:12 PM
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yeah everyone is entitled to their opinions...cant keep arguing coz people see things differently...there's no right or wrong answer so long as it's "about there"...
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May 18 2008, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 17 2008, 01:37 PM) In my opinion, you have to look beyond statistics because numbers don't always tell the whole story. If they could, all anyone would need to do is look at the stats sheet to pick the winner, much like how you buy players in Football Manager without having seen the player in the flesh. Well, those i mentioned above are not statistics alone. You don't get a clean sheet if the goalie doesn't perform well. |
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May 19 2008, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(-Nos- @ May 18 2008, 07:20 PM) Well, those i mentioned above are not statistics alone. You don't get a clean sheet if the goalie doesn't perform well. Again, both arguments have their own merits... For simplicity sake, laymen like us (unlike paid professional pundits and whatnots who has seen the game inside out) will have to resort to stats and general consensus, it's more unbiased if you'd like... I would love to say Torres is the best buy and my heart indeed says he is... but my head dictates that Santa Cruz better bargain, simply because of his relatively small fee and big return (by no means he is better than Torres) - economically speaking... |
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May 19 2008, 11:28 AM
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It doesn't matter if this argument continues so long as you have something constructive to say. It doesn't mean that there has to be a definitive answer.
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May 24 2008, 07:46 PM
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Roque Santa Cruz is no.1 for this season for me. 3.5m is so much worth it
Torres comes second. Real goal getter. Third... lol.. Alex... what do you expect? Big, tall, 1 pound centre back who scores free kicks. |
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May 24 2008, 08:44 PM
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skrtel looks to be a bargain.with such a cool name too
 oh yeah alex is not bad at all.i think he would've banged in a few more goals if terry and carvalho didn't stay regularly fit.hey does sven goran eriksson qualify? |
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May 24 2008, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ May 24 2008, 08:44 PM) skrtel looks to be a bargain.with such a cool name too When my bro told me they signed Skrtel I was like, "What? A Pokemon?" oh yeah alex is not bad at all.i think he would've banged in a few more goals if terry and carvalho didn't stay regularly fit.hey does sven goran eriksson qualify? Looks like a serial killer, not suprised he plays alongside Vidic. Elano has been a revelation as well, but injuries has stuttered his performances. Would be great to see how Santa Cruz and Torres cope with their second season. |
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May 24 2008, 09:01 PM
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skrtel's a name of a pokemon?
 indeed he looks really brutal..huhu.but wait a sec isn't he slovakian..vidic is serbian rite..elano was unlucky.but he's still young so no worries for him |
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May 24 2008, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ May 24 2008, 09:01 PM) skrtel's a name of a pokemon? got a pokemon named squirtle indeed he looks really brutal..huhu.but wait a sec isn't he slovakian..vidic is serbian rite..elano was unlucky.but he's still young so no worries for him kinda sounds alike |
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May 24 2008, 09:19 PM
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haha okay got it.wow u guys are aware of pokemon characters and football..not bad
what do u guys think of mauro zarate in birmingham? |
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May 24 2008, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ May 24 2008, 09:19 PM) haha okay got it.wow u guys are aware of pokemon characters and football..not bad He is ok but then he didnt have much chance to score because birmingham midfielders cannot provide him with a goal. what do u guys think of mauro zarate in birmingham? |
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