My choice will be

STRIKER
1. Santa Cruz
2. Torres
3. Tevez

MIDFIELDER
1. Anderson
2. Gary O'neil (Boro)

DEFENDER
1. Skrtel

If by "same thing", you meant score goals then I'd have to agree. I have to add that unless you have seen both players play with same regularity, it's unfair to pass much judgement. Aside from Liverpool fans here, how many have seen Torres play more than 10 times this season? How many have seen Roque Santa Cruz play the same number of games? I can't say I've seen much of the Paraguayan myself. Because of this, most people are just looking at numbers. If Cruz's goals had all come via deflection, he'd still be the "best buy" rather than the "luckiest buy". Judging from what I've seen of the two though, Torres is the more complete player. Santa Cruz for me needs supply and being 6'3" has a penchant for the English game where the ball is often played up to him. Most of his goals that I've seen have come from headers. He may surprise me much like how Miroslav Klose did at the last World Cup where he scored every goal with his feet (unlike in the previous one) but at this moment, I think Torres has more dimension to his game.

Still I respect everyone's opinion in this matter and I accept that I may be biased. It's just been a long time since we've signed such an exciting player. When was the last time?

Harry Kewell and Fernando Morientes?

This post has been edited by madmoz: May 9 2008, 02:03 PM

definitely santa cruz for me, and not because im a brfc fan...

everybody knows that
i see u tried ur best to say torres is no 1, dont deny it already admitted.. everyone knows that he is better than santa cruz
but in terms of best signing, i think santa cruz deserves the top spot
he is just a few goals less than torres in the league

This post has been edited by MADReaLJL: May 9 2008, 02:40 PM

im a brfc fan and my bro is a liverpool fan, so i've watched my share of both teams playing...there's no dispute that torres is a better player...but the thread specifically refers to the "best buy". to answer that, one definitely has to refer to price paid. u wun expect to get a lousier player by paying so much more...it is the return for the price paid that has to be considered. santa was signed for 1/7 the price. i would rate his return higher than torres.

When was the last time? Too long, much too long ago...

I see your points and fully understand them...it's a very simple issue really, Torres is definitely the much better player, no doubt, but in terms of value, now that is debatable, hence the discussion here... right?

edit: BTW, to not cause further confusion / language technicalities, I think it is wise to state that there is Best Buy and then there is Best Value... can arr?

This post has been edited by m o m o: May 9 2008, 03:16 PM

i see no difference in best buy and best value...unless i think the term u looking for is best signing.

Darn it, here we go again...

I give up, call it what you guys want... I'd go for Santa Cruz...

Santa for me too...
considering the price paid n that he's not frequently played at Bayern before this...

The thing about value is this; if a player is almost out of contract and is looking to leave, clubs can buy him on the cheap. Then there is also the bosman ruling, etc. What i'm trying to say is that the value of a player can change depending on the details of his contract and it's duration. Steve McManaman was free and therefore could be considered an even better signing than David Beckham. Just trying to put things in perspective and look at it from other angles, aside from cost.

so now i know torres beats rooney anytime of the day if it's to compare price tag on their forehead. dont deny it how much was he? 31m pound if im not mistaken,right?anyway, no hard feeling,tak boleh tahan when comes to comparing




by the way, i think the best signing of the season goes to


striker: 1) santa cruz 2) tevez 3)defoe (spur ----> portsmouth)

midfielder: 1) owen hargreaves 2)petrov 3) ashley young

defender: 1)woodgate (boro--->spur) 2)skrtel

keeper : 1)carson (liverpool ---> villa)

i vote for cruz as well.. cheap and good in finishing

Chicken and eggs, apples and oranges... oh my, can't imagine this will turn into such an interesting and complicated subject... maybe we should have just a separate thread on this... LOL

Yeah, I see the other perspectives, clearly, and my head tells me Santa Cruz while of course my heart says Torres... both have excellent names BTW...

Tevez is in the reckoning too, but details of his 'transfer' are rather sketchy - is it 2 mil pounds as loan fees for a season? Wonder how much Utd will stump up now for his full transfer? If Kia can demand in excess of 18 mil pounds for Marscherano, no telling how much he will ask for Tevez...

Bacary Sagna

hey, count avram grant in
everybody think that his chances i like a snowball in hell but look at where there are now;
challenging at 2 front!
he inherited an almost 'complete and mature' squad so most of the credit should go to the players
based on this fact, his success rate can't be compared with ferguson, mourinho and even rafa!
btw, he is more like a good swap instead of a good buy

cruz and torres

if so, Juande Ramos oso can ?

he cannot be counted in. tottenham's placing is worst than last year under jol.
grant bring the bpl title to penultimate day and they're in cl final too!

torres may be better than rooney this season, but dont forget that rooney always being hampered by injuries
and he was being played out of position to accommodate tevez.. he is not a true cf but now he is learning
rooney in 2004/2005 was a joy to watch
he is a better player now but more a team player

Torres is a great player to watch...