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crazyconsumer
post May 7 2008, 05:27 PM

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Yep, same like all other phones, so nothing different or great there.

QUOTE(LaskarCinta @ May 7 2008, 04:35 PM)
...and that's not only restricted to iPhone.
btw most of iPhone users here are discussing on making the most out of their iPhones in this forum. not only telling bout how cool this device is, but also discussing on ways to maximise it's potential.
very lot of potential, either the software or the hardware.
Sounds like sales talk or copy paste from APPLE articles, but in the end nothing current. Just more promises. By the time, anything comes out, already come out wif iTV.

As for lagging, see my post about sms read/write slowness. You think it's the processor at work?

QUOTE(LaskarCinta @ May 7 2008, 04:35 PM)
OSX Mobile in the iPhone is a relatively new platform (compared with Symbian, WinMo, etc etc) and yet it brings great performance on its function. rarely hang also. and yet it's still young as a mobile platform!

the upcoming AppStore that will be launched by Apple promising a library of great native apps and console-quality games. the existing unofficial apps made with unofficial toolchains available today are already great, i can't really imagine what's more to come.

the processor of the iPhone is 667MHz ARM11 processor, one of the most powerful ARM processor for mobile phones. even the HTC ones only got around 400MHZ. ok, the processor itself is clocked at lower speed (around 41x Mhz) as Apple is still perfecting ways to conserve energy, but i'm optimistic that it will be increased after updates (just like when 1.1.2 released). oh, and for 41x Mhz, it already performs greatly. no lagging.

so there's alot of potential yet to be unlocked. and maybe there's lot more that i haven't know yet. i'm not a salesman.

or google is your best friend.
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post May 7 2008, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 7 2008, 09:49 AM)
If someone is attacking another person for condemning a phone without proper details, it is downright fair to ask back the same thing (more details) for praising a phone.  So don't be bias.

This thread is obviously not for any iphone owner who is has bias.
And do you consider it a fair statement that "IPHONE is the best after using/comparing all the brands" mentioned by that fella?
Your meat is in question, this is the purpose of the thread. You are the one with hard feelings.
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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 7 2008, 05:27 PM)
Yep, same like all other phones, so nothing different or great there.
Sounds like sales talk or copy paste from APPLE articles, but in the end nothing current. Just more promises. By the time, anything comes out, already come out wif iTV.

As for lagging, see my post about sms read/write slowness. You think it's the processor at work?
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every processor has its own limits and in regards to your sms reading process, you probably have a lot of txts accumulated inside. try deleting some spam and the phone will just run fine.


of course i will be amazed to learn that you are still using an iphone after all your mockery.

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post May 7 2008, 06:53 PM

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damn... iphone sux wei...
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post May 8 2008, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 7 2008, 05:27 PM)
Sounds like sales talk...
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ooo...FYI, the processor spec is never revealed by Apple itself, hence it's not necessarily known by its salesman.
i'm just being kind here to tell u a lot of potential on the iPhone in very near future (as per what u asked before in this forum), yet u said like that after i'm being so informative.

is this the attitude of people nowadays, asking people and then doing like this in return?
c'mon la, why do some bashing yet being so defensive like that.

oh, btw i typed that myself (based on lots of articles), not just do some copy and paste. respect some other people efforts, not just bashing others just to make yourself looks right. no need to look right nor wrong here, here is a place for discussion.

bout the SMS, i think better don't keep lots of junks there. sure will lag. my iPhone don't give me prob on the SMS, maybe something's wrong with your iPhone? btw the sms interface is really innovative though yet still got lots of potential (oh talking back bout potential, maybe i don't have to).

oh, i'm not an iPhone seller. so looks like i don't have to explain more rite?

ok la, next time, google is your friend. have fun.

(i'm really heartbroken. how people can be that rude nowadays?)

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post May 8 2008, 02:26 AM

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waaa someone woke up at the wrong side of the bed and bashing on everyone. smile.gif btw this fella have a name. Good thing i didn't point out the full potential or else i'll be label as a sales person or worse.

@LaskarCinta
Kesian la kat u. Trying to give info about the phone when ask about its potential and then kena bash. Sales talk la, copy and paste la. I fell your pain man. Hang in there ... This is a command from your emperor palpatine @ dark lord @ the bad guy. rolleyes.gif

Btw this is what i think thats bad about iphone compare to other phones. Damn hard la to type sms while driving. Last time can type by just feeling the keypad. Now cannot already but since i'm the dark lord, i'm perfecting the skill of typing sms while driving using the force of the dark side. After this gonna read and post here while driving pulak. So who want to be my sith apprentice. Muahahahahahaha.

P/S - Please dont sms while u r driving. Its dangerous and dangering others too unless u r a sith lord. whistling.gif brows.gif innocent.gif
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post May 8 2008, 02:53 AM

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seems like iphone bashers here are either windows mobile phone users or those who never owned an iphone before and review them based on their "friends" iphone. to really appreciate the potential of iphone is to really go deep by tweaking and experiment the programs compatible by the iphone. but talking more is kinda useless to u keypad & stylus huggers coz u'll never understand anyways. browse thru all the threads here in iphone sub-forum then u'll know the benefit of using an iphone.

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post May 8 2008, 07:56 AM

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biasa r..to free edi dem..dey are nt open to "change", dey aren't open to various technologies possibly better den wat dey r using..
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feel abit lazy to go thru what you guy discussing ... hehe
Of cos every phone has it's pros and cons.

But ONE thing! The INSTALLER make my life easier. haha biggrin.gif
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post May 8 2008, 09:37 AM

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All these talk but nothiing solid or current to praise the phone for. I have said my 'actual' disadvantages (Read it), but others just talk about what the future brings or hope for... where is the 'actual' advantages over other phones? Present tense is wat we want to know.... not future tense. Google it? Sure, let's scrap lowyat forum for good ... cos google is our friend anyway.

My wife had an iphone and I gladly gave it away. She hated it. (is that your excuse for me stating the disadvantages?) biggrin.gif

Tweaking?! biggrin.gif If the standard package sucks, it sucks ... if talk about tweaking, any phone also can be tweaked to the max. Might as well overclock it while at it. biggrin.gif

And like wat others have said, touch screen is not for phones. Try doing something without looking at the phone. If touch screen is that good, we wouldn't need keyboards or phone buttons (office/home) anymore.
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post May 8 2008, 11:56 AM

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Okay for the sake of ending this, I'll bring myself down to his level:

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Your argument is so flawed, I don't know where to start. I would really like to see you overclock a Nokia N95 processor, no, really. Sure, any phone can be tweaked to the max, hey, why not tweak the HTC Touch so its touch screen won't be so shite? Try "tweaking" the Symbian phones so it won't lag as much. Or hey, "tweak" the Internet Explorer/Opera Mini browsers to render pages properly.

Who died and made you the king of all consumers? The touch screen is not for you, not everyone thinks this way but hey, speak for everyone else, why don't you.

But hey you know what, I totally agree. My wife hates it so the iPhone suxzorss!!!! Now, I must preach to the whole world that it's useless like a 5 year old brat. Who cares if it's a DISADVANTAGES thread, I wanna know the ADVANTAGES because, you know, I understand English, really, I do. Yep, that sounds like logic to me. rolleyes.gif

Hahaha, run along now, little boy, you're pathetic. Hehehe, crazy consumer, his nickname is such an irony. biggrin.gif


Okay, now that we got that out of the way, we can leave the sad troll behind and get on with the thread... biggrin.gif

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post May 8 2008, 12:41 PM

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biggrin.gif I'll play along wif you, old man .. biggrin.gif






Again, future tense. tongue.gif

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
Finger friendly multi-touch screen (hey smart @$$, know the difference?) that allows apps that are impossible with normal touch screens such as Pianist and Guitar. Great 3D rendering capabilities that will see console games such as spore released by EA on the iPhone platform (this is not a promise, it's confirmed, they showed the demo). Intuitive GUI means you don't have to scroll through a thousand menus to do one thing (I'm looking at you, Windows Mobile).




Tweaking is for overcoming shortcomings. Get it in your head. Touch screen sucks, doesnt matter how responsive or sensitive. Let's see how long till touch screen replace all buttons in this world.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
I'd like to see you "tweak" a screen to be finger friendly. All the other touchscreens are a b**** to use with fingers and styluses just takes away a degree of freedom.



Tats because you are slow to begin with?

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
No lag at all when it comes to menu navigation. I can vouch for that because I dunno, I actually have one?




Get a pc / notebook if you can afford

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
Full featured HTML browser which is lightyears ahead of Opera Mini and Internet Explorer Mobile, although lacking Flash which none of the other browsers have anyway.




Get a tv
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
320x480 3.5"screen, watching videos on it is a joy. Have I mentioned that there is no lag? Anyone who complains about lag should try out the N-series or even a non-smartphone Sony Ericsson.




Keep dreaming and tweaking. As for photos, get a pc.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
All the little stuff that are a nice touch: I-Chat style SMS. Smooth photo navigation (Looking through photos are a joy with multi-touch) and of course, the upcoming App store (confirmed, not a "promise") that will see the release of hundreds of nice apps (confirmed, not a "promise"), the iPod software etc...



Keep tweaking.
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
A phone that gets better and better with constant software updates.



At last, you agree with me.
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
And also, in addition to all these features, it looks great as well. Like you said, it's a "fashion accessory" (geez, spare me)



Doesn't matter. You are in the wrong thread anyway.
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
Lots more actually, but why waste time on a sad little man who can't be bothered to search the forum and instead demands to know the advantages of the phone in a disadvantages thread?



Of course, maybe u have long fingernails to pick at the alphabets
,like how u pick your nose.urgh
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
1) cant search name in phone book by few alphabets

There is a list of alphabets on the side, tap on it and it'll bring you there.



Of course, delete to free up memory. A breakthru ! Oh, you are saying Iphone is same as nokia and SE phone? I tot it was superior?
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)

2) slow to read/write sms

Mine's smooth as heck and the others have already mentioned that there is no problem. If there are hundreds of SMS is a single thread, then it's bound to lag, even the Nokia and SE phone so I don't know what you're on about..



No need to sulk.... there there.
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)

3) cannot send contacts

I'll concede that point so okay, the iPhone is useless because it can't send contacts. Talk about sacrificing the forest for the tree!



Of course, more tweaking.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
4) cannot delete multiple sms at one time

You can delete the entire thread if you want or you can install iSMS, in which case, problem solved!




Never mind explaining to you, let people suffer unexpected high bills. Not my money.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
5) EDGE has to be turned off

Okay, this is retarded, honestly. If you don't want to use EDGE at all, then deactivate it by calling MAXIS/Celcom/DIGI. In any case, EDGE is a per-download service so you only get charged if you use it. The phone will only connect to EDGE when you access Internet-related apps, the SAME as any other EDGE phone..




Again, who cares about overclocking or tweaking.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
Your argument is so flawed, I don't know where to start. I would really like to see you overclock a Nokia N95 processor, no, really. Sure, any phone can be tweaked to the max, hey, why not tweak the HTC Touch so its touch screen won't be so shite? Try "tweaking" the Symbian phones so it won't lag as much. Or hey, "tweak" the Internet Explorer/Opera Mini browsers to render pages properly.




Was I a king? I'm touched, you thot that. Until every button in this world is changed to touch screen, you speak alone.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
Who died and made you the king of all consumers? The touch screen is not for you, not everyone thinks this way but hey, speak for everyone else, why don't you.



U know you are preaching too right?

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
But hey you know what, I totally agree. My wife hates it so the iPhone suxzorss!!!! Now, I must preach to the whole world that it's useless like a 5 year old brat.



Again, you are in wrong thread. But its ok, you need to protect your pride.
QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
Who cares if it's a DISADVANTAGES thread, I wanna know the ADVANTAGES because, you know, I understand English, really, I do. Yep, that sounds like logic to me.  rolleyes.gif



Name calling .... the last resort.. biggrin.gif You do know the meaning of your name right? You are living it out.

QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
Hahaha, run along now, little boy, you're pathetic. Hehehe, crazy consumer, his nickname is such an irony.  biggrin.gif
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That's why we need a new Education Minister. Look at how the education system has failed this guy so badly.

So let me get this straight, your whole rubbish argument can be summed up as:

1)I'm too dumb to use an iPhone

2) My comprehension of English is rubbish

3) I don't know that using EDGE will rack up high bills

4) and this is really funny, check this out, no really, you have to read this:

Get a PC and a TV! Of course, now why didn't I think of that? Quick, everyone, ditch your smartphones, switch to a Nokia 3310 and get a laptop instead! Wanna watch a movie while you're on the go? Carry a bloody 20" TV on your back wherever you go!

What a plank this guy is, always good for a laugh. You give stupid people a bad name, really biggrin.gif




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This is really getting out of hand here.
Not that I wanna attack you with intention, I've been looking at the postings here and obviously you're stepping on a Apple subforum with no less of fanboys around like the other sections, I'm sure you're familiar with the Audiphile where everybody have their own preferences. Everything have their own advantages and disadvantages, come on la you're just here picking a fight refuting point by point from the postings around.

Instead of picking a fight here try getting your hands on a mac, iphone or whatever, touch and see for yourself if you haven't have a chance yet.

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post May 8 2008, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(=Hanxz= @ May 8 2008, 12:57 PM)
This is really getting out of hand here.
Not that I wanna attack you with intention, I've been looking at the postings here and obviously you're stepping on a Apple subforum with no less of fanboys around like the other sections, I'm sure you're familiar with the Audiphile where everybody have their own preferences. Everything have their own advantages and disadvantages, come on la you're just here picking a fight refuting point by point from the postings around.

Instead of picking a fight here try getting your hands on a mac, iphone or whatever, touch and see for yourself if you haven't have a chance yet.

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Too bad this is straying out of topic, Hanxz, because this guy is comedy gold. Just nudge him a bit and he spews out gems like "A PC is better than a phone". No shit, Sherlock. I've never laughed so much at a fool before but yeah, this is really getting out of hand, so I think we can just ignore him from now on.

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Maybe you should stop school then. Get a job.

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QUOTE(blackchides @ May 8 2008, 12:57 PM)
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That's why we need a new Education Minister. Look at how the education system has failed this guy so badly.

So let me get this straight, your whole rubbish argument can be summed up as:

1)I'm too dumb to use an iPhone

2) My comprehension of English is rubbish

3) I don't know that using EDGE will rack up high bills

4) and this is really funny, check this out, no really, you have to read this:

Get a PC! Of course, now why didn't I think of that? Quick, everyone, ditch your smartphones, switch to a Nokia 3310 and get a laptop instead! What a plank this guy is, always good for a laugh. You give stupid people a bad name, really biggrin.gif
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Of course, this thread should be on kopitiam. Never talk about someone's shortcomings in their own territory... duh! rclxms.gif



QUOTE(=Hanxz= @ May 8 2008, 12:57 PM)
This is really getting out of hand here.
Not that I wanna attack you with intention, I've been looking at the postings here and obviously you're stepping on a Apple subforum with no less of fanboys around like the other sections, I'm sure you're familiar with the Audiphile where everybody have their own preferences. Everything have their own advantages and disadvantages, come on la you're just here picking a fight refuting point by point from the postings around.

Instead of picking a fight here try getting your hands on a mac, iphone or whatever, touch and see for yourself if you haven't have a chance yet.

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At the way he whines about the tweaking/installing apps onto the phone, I bet that his computer only has windows in it....nothing else. Cause he doesnt like tweaking.

1) So he's using 16bit colour display.

2) His PC sounds are beeps

3) or maybe he's still using a 486 tongue.gif

Talking bout different types of people we have in our today. (or maybe he's drunk hahhaha)


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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 8 2008, 01:12 PM)
Maybe you should stop school then. Get a job.

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I would normally say something insulting to you, but your own stupidity has humiliated you more than I ever could.
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post May 8 2008, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(crazyconsumer @ May 8 2008, 01:12 PM)
Maybe you should stop school then. Get a job.

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Of course, this thread should be on kopitiam. Never talk about someone's shortcomings in their own territory... duh! rclxms.gif
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There's a difference, my friend, you're coming on here acting like a know-it-all and demanding to know answers and when someone tries to tell you the difference, you shoot them down with sarcastic remarks and then whines when people do the same to you. What, you can dish it out but you can't take it?

If you notice the other proper posts, it's fair and everyone discusses them and suggest fixes. I think that's the last you'll hear from me. It's a waste of time stooping down to your level, although your replies are very funny: Remember folks, a PC is better than a phone and of course, computers are rubbish because you have to tweak/install software on them for them to be any good.

Haha, that's it from me. Have fun in your ignorant little world....
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Tell that to your elders/ relatives. I'm sure they are tech savvy like you. rclxms.gif

Yep, my 386 is still running and doing the same thing like you.


QUOTE(nkymark @ May 8 2008, 01:15 PM)
At the way he whines about the tweaking/installing apps onto the phone, I bet that his computer only has windows in it....nothing else. Cause he doesnt like tweaking.

1) So he's using 16bit colour display.

2) His PC sounds are beeps

3) or maybe he's still using a 486 tongue.gif

Talking bout different types of people we have in our today. (or maybe he's drunk hahhaha)
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