Sure, I'll check. I think can go liao coz it is older than Baby Ringo.

Watery poo? What have you been feeding? The poo got soft like tooth paste or is watery and like jelly?

Well, looks like she doesn't like her bonding pouch much. What you can do is do pouch feeding. When you put Judy in, feed her with some of her favourite food. I normally feed mealworms when my gliders are in my pouch. This is a training way.

Hopefully it works for you. Just needs some time. Some gliders are pouch protective, or hate their pouches. So it depends. Like my Keera, she will refuse to go into her bonding pouch when we are at home. Coz she feels comfortable and wants to explore. But once we go out the environment changes, and she would go into her bonding pouch willingly as it is her safe sanctuary.

Hahaah... sorry lah for passing you Vicky so fast. I know you couldn't wait to get her. If not I would have trained her for a week with pouch. She was never in a bonding pouch before she went to you, so that is why pouch protective coz when she was with her breeder, she and the parents always have 1 pouch, which is the sleeping pouch.

But crab while makan memang cute. Now I train Keera as well, she is not so pouch protective anymore. It really takes time.

Teddy is like one of my oddest joeys coz he has never crabbed before when he was under Reanne and my care. Not even hiss. Always calm and sweet. Actually, if you don't want, I would have kept him.

So conclusion, buy buah Nona/ sugar Apple is more worth it hahahah. So much cheaper than blueberry.

Sugar apple and custard apple is the same. Some people use different names.
It's like Jambu Air, people call them water apple or rose apple.

Get string too..... Looks like you got a very playful glider. Is good to make them play with such things, it gives them some exercise.

Then it is normal. If watery like yogurt then it means something wrong.

Pergi beli or guna tali lah ahahah.

Underdevelop... that's why lah. Separation from parents at an early age.

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Added on June 13, 2008, 10:17 amNo problem. Glad to help you.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Jun 13 2008, 10:17 AM

GUY!!!! I wanna cryyyyyyyyyyy......



Don't worry, my suggies are all fine. Just that the ones at PS are NOT!!! Damn it! 2 super duper underage, smaller than Ringo are dying. They shiver so badly, are constantly wet from the soggy wet apples. The poor things can't even chew and are just licking moisture. They are thin, weak and so shaky.
Another tank has like 10 or more joeys, just slightly older. All they have are tissue paper to hide and sleep in and soggy wet apples. I actually stood at the counter, saying slightly louder to Juztiny that "They are gonna die" but the workers just ignore. Stupid.....

Wah, where you send for boarding? Hopefully not a vet or pet shop that has no knowledge on gliders...

I was reading, gliders don't enjoy eating on the floor of the cage. The rather eat high up coz it is instinctive and they would feel safer and have better appetites. But Kimba is like cacat. He would take whatever fruit I give him and throw it to the cage floor to eat.

Budget? I would leave aside Rm700... you roughly count, cage already RM290 if big cage, then bowls RM8.80, bottle also Rm8.80, pouches and cage stuff, I forgot the price but around Rm100 like that or less.... depending on how many bonding pouch you buy. Normally I would advice on 2. Toys, bedding (if you use) plus food.... another RM50 loh.... then what more? Well, up to you.

I beli kat Cold Storage. Rm3+ for 3.... sometimes less than Rm3 coz depends on weight. You can find kat wet market I think.

Come on guys, no more arguments ok? I'm kinda fed up. Newbies can always use the search button to look for topics that have been discussed. Plain and simple. If you need more info, just leave a comment in my blog and I will do an article.

Gadget got that curious look.

Gizmo got that comfy look.

Cute pictures.

Me ah... bad day. Why? Coz Keera destroyed my printer! She crawled into my printer's paper opening, when inside and dunno what the heck she pulled out and stuff in. I open my printer to find that she made a so called bed of tissue paper and pulled out some kinda sponge out from the printer. Sheesh....

Yah loh. No dinner for her.... LOL. kidding lah.... this girl. Super mischievous. Devil in disguise.

LOL... luckily that was my backup printer. I got 2 more printers at home. Lucky lucky lucky.

Yah... naughty but precious. I let her play with my friend's kids. She is quite gentle with them and keeps making the kids laugh.

You can print him the 1st page. Corn.... he cannot see now mah. Wait till the gliders are about a year. Mealworms are high in phosphorus but not as high as corn..... his gliders would soon have weak bones and the joeys they produce will have a possibility of being weak with brittle bones. Poor souls.

Corn and banana, we can feed like once in 2 weeks. I do give corn but that's like when I only have corn at home. Once a month hahahah. Banana I have it at home like every week coz my parents love to eat banana, but I rarely give . When we feed foods that are high in phosphorus, it is good to balance it out with high calcium food. So if you feed corn, then feed some fruit like papaya or jambu air or sugar apple.

Well, good that Moka and Luna improved, but then your way of bonding is just a bit slow only coz you can't have them in the bonding pouch for the day. So spend more time with them lah. Get home, straight carry around bonding pouch. Play with them in their tent. Hand feed.... it will take you more time to bond but it is worth it coz they are a pet for 10 years.

Hahaha.... if they run back to you, means you are almost there with the bonding. They see you as their safe haven. Well, you still need to improve on their crabbing la but you are almost there. Good progress loh.

Yah, their nails are very sharp, so you would need to trim their nails. Get Nail-O-Matic, then no need worry about trimming nails.

Just now I handled him, so blur face. When I call him "Ringo" he crab, I call him "Bubba" he also crab. Then I make sneezing noise, he also grab. If I purr like a cat, he also crab. LOL.... he needs to get used to different noises. Now active already. Exploring the cage.

Don't use gel loh. Gliders lick is normally grooming. So she is grooming you lah.

It was brought in about 6 years ago, but 1 cost like Rm1.6k.

My arms and necks are covered with scratches hahaha.... I think it just takes some time to get used to the feeling. Anyway, can always drop by at Pet Shack for nail trimming. Or meet me there, I also can do hahahah.

Yups, males tend to be larger than females. I see that often. Some females grow larger, this could be due to the different Petaurus breviceps subspecies. I do have a male which is the same size with the female, and I have one which is larger than his mate.
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If a glider stays at 1 place without moving, some of us call it stoning. What does it mean? Well, when an animal stays in 1 place without moving, just stay like a statue, it means stoning. It's like day dreaming a bit, in a daze. Nothing to worry about.

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What's my gliders' daily diet? Everyday is something different.

Each morning I give mealworms. They love eating at night so I give more food at night. Actually I have posted this a few times already lah, can search mah. I also posted this in my blog on diets. Just give variety of fruits. There is no need to copy what I feed today and what I feed tomorrow. LOL, man, this is funny.

Nopes, nothing wrong with that. You can give the dog kibble everyday but make sure only 1.


Anyway, looking at adpost.... sad case to see people selling joeys at such an age.... super duper underage, like just OOP or open eyes but say 2 months old. Go and look.... pity those joeys.

Those that died are those that are contaminated..... so is good that they died. Use a sieve that people use for flour when baking. RM2 can get already or even cheaper.

You can bring anywhere but always in a bonding pouch. If you go Ikano, no need pouch also ok. I let mine sit on my shoulder.

Wah.... I so happy to hear my SLURP is so well loved by most gliders heheheh. BTW, your Bubba is getting cuter and cuter everyday. Just now a few forum people came over, they had a sneak peek of Bubba, he was so adorable hugging my finger.

Yours memang suka fruits more than SLURP. Funny hahaha... but is good lah.

Really like GliderYOGURTEES and GliderFRUITSICLES? Then I make bigger container for you heheheh.

Wah, then no need gf lah. Your glider can be your gf hahahah.

He chew your finger to main main a bit lah. Some of them show affection that way.

Each animal is special. Glider got different personality and ways to care. Ferret is more outgoing and cat-like. Hedgehog is more solitary and prefer to have short handlings and play time. So it depends on you actually, see which pet suits you. Not really the point of which is the best to bela.

Dead ones I normally use forceps to pick out. You can only sieve out the poop.

Wahhhhh....3 to 4 weeks? CRAZYYYYY!!!!! Please do not fall for price. This is such an irresponsible seller. DO NOT GET FROM HIM or anyone who says he will teach you how to nurse.

Any joey that doesn't get the milk and care from the mom will:

- have health problems when older
- will not grow properly, some may become stunted while some may be late bloomers
- there are no milk suitable for gliders sold in Malaysia. I have 1 pack of Wombaroo joey milk but that is my personal stash for emergencies. This milk cannot be imported by shipment, so no one would be able to get it unless they have someone buy and bring it back from Aussie.
- There is a chance of a shorter lifespan
- 50% of joeys that are bought underage dies

This is from personal findings. I get people emailing me and calling me bout their problems. Joeys die in 1 month, 2 days, 1 week.... why???? Same reason.... UNDERAGE. All either get from sellers like that guy or from suppliers or from Ikano.....

When you buy a pet, you shouldn't go for the cheapest. Cheap means there would be a problem. If you buy a joey for RM250 but it dies.... rugi Rm250 rite? If you buy RM300 but it grows healthy and lives long, worth it rite?

About young being closer to bond..... 8 weeks out of pouch is considered the best age and young. Anything younger is coz they are vulnerable, and are babies. Of course all babies look cute, have no sense of danger and are sticky to people coz they are afraid. Don't jump into the same group of people say their glider just died.

RM10.... is after you convert. If you do not convert, the money value is the same..... and RM10 is the WILD ones. Majority of my friends are indonesians.... and they have told me. Don't believe can ask Muchan, she is indonesian and she has seen the difference between our gliders and the ones sold in Indonesia.

Yups, The proper age is actually 4 months old since born. But then we normally go with In Pouch and Out Of Pouch age. 2 months IP, 2 months OOP. Many people make this mistake, never understanding the right age. I pity the people who have bought from unethical sellers. They go through bad experience..... dead joeys.... some die in 1 week, some die in 1 day.... some die after 1 month.... is a pity coz all this won't come about if they had bought a right age joey from the proper breeder.

One thing about home breeders. ALOT do not understand our concept.

WE LOVE OUR GLIDERS. We never treat them as breeding machines. We let our gliders have 2 litters of joeys a year.... each time is either 1 joey or 2 joeys.... so in a year we can only have 2 to 4 joeys from 1 pair of gliders. Sometimes if the female is very fertile, it can be 3 litters. Suppliers, commercial breeders breed their gliders with small cages, coconut hides, apples and dogfood to eat. They snatch the joeys before 2 months OOP to make the females breed faster, making them breed 4 to 5 times a year. This kills the female slowly. To a commercial breeder, 1 loss is ok if he gains 8 joeys in a year from 1 female.... to them is money money money, sales sales sales.

Home breeders have limited breeding pairs. We can only have a few joeys for sale in a year or in a span of few months. That is why we have a waiting list. If you are keen to get from a good breeder, you need to have the patience to wait. Many people have waited and they are thankful to have gotten healthy joeys than sickly joeys that die in a few moments. Rm300 to Rm350 is really worth it as you get alot of after service stuff, guaranteed a healthy joey and we have a big pool of knowledge to share. Sometimes we breeders get annoyed easily but bare with us. We have gotten so many types of PMs and funny funny questions that we are tired of repeating.

Do your research 1st. Never get on impulse because cheap, because cute, because breeder or seller is your friend and offer you big discount or free..... never never make a mistake with a glider.

Well, there is a possibility that the glider may get attach to you and forget your brother more. It depends.... I have experience with gliders boarding under me for a month, when return to their owners, they forget their owners.... so need to do bonding again. What you should do is get some of your brother's clothes and hang it near the cage or on the cage. That is why now I ask all who put their gliders for boarding at my home to make sure they bring along a smelly shirt.

Hahaha.... I see what I can create for your picky girl. Since now I know she likes the treats, I will custom make something similar but in SLURP form.

Why early next month? Do planning..... and like I said before, joeys do not pop out like hamsters. The joeys from me that are ready in July are all fully booked coz like I said, people have patience, they have waited for the joeys long before you.

also cling to your finger mah hahahah.

Can wan can wan heheheh.... wait awhile more. Another 30 days only hahahah.... now he is 28 days OOP heheheh.... very adorable.

Yah, many have never experience handling a glider or even seen how a glider poo and pee on a person. I got a call from a guy before.... he said he wanted a glider coz it is manja.... but he doesn't know that it cannot be toilet trained, nor does he know that a glider has really sharp claws that can cause red scratches.... he thought glider can keep like hamster.....

Yups. That was Kiah. The hyper one on Jamien was Kapi. Kapi has a firmer grip, so the claws feel much stronger than Kiah. Heheheh.... both cute rite? Got nice soft fur.... and both also stick to me.

Little Bubba has not tried solid food yet. But he easily misses his mom. You heard him bark and cry for his momma.

That is SO TRUE! Many owners give up their gliders after a year.... reasons being no time lah, parents don't like, landlord do not allow pets, hate the smell, have no more commitment, got too much assignments..... I have heard alot of reasons.... sometimes I don't blame them if it is for personal reasons but for reasons like no time or commitment anymore... sigh.... sad.... gliders bond to people and they get depressed if their owners dump them to someone.

Some lagi keng.... let go into the wild. Why? Say it is natural wor..... Gliders are not native animals, therefore they cannot survive for long in the wild and normally die from a predator or starvation or natural elements.

Now I have 9 gliders... my commitment is bigger.... My parents think I'm crazy.... and they are not cheap to keep.... but i love all of them. I sleep less now because of them.

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Added on June 18, 2008, 9:15 pmLOL.... Kiah and Kapi smell like Kimba....

Keera no smell coz she got no male with her, so Keera smells like me a bit LOL....

Bubba smells like his dad, very strong male musk. Summore Bubba started to musk a bit hahahah.... which is normal coz joeys do musk but it is not very strong as the smell lessens in a few minutes.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Jun 18 2008, 09:15 PM

Mealworms and crickets tend to get contaminated from the shops.... is not bacterial or anything... more like eating bad food... so is good that they died. The ones that are alive would need to gutload to get rid of the bad stuff and in with the good stuff. That is why we advice people to gutload for 48 hours before feeding to your gliders. This way you get rid of anything bad from their systems.