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post Apr 21 2008, 11:14 AM, updated 18y ago

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which one are u??
here we go~~~ rclxms.gif

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good job! pana needs to pin this hehehhe
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post Apr 21 2008, 11:16 AM

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2nd post!! .. yeehaa!! ..


Added on April 21, 2008, 11:18 amopsss!! ..sapcrest is dropping .. argh .. alert alert!..

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post Apr 21 2008, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(myusername @ Apr 21 2008, 11:14 AM)
You go in at how much?
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queuing only.. havnt get...
didnt get also nvm... just for fun since it touch my TP 1.30 few days liao biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 21 2008, 11:19 AM)
queuing only.. havnt get...
didnt get also nvm... just for fun since it touch my TP 1.30 few days liao  biggrin.gif
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It might go up to 1.35 only in near short term. Resistance quite high at this level.

If can get in at 1.30, then get some some chicken wings
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post Apr 21 2008, 11:32 AM

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lol the title says "we are investors, not gambler"

haha!

not necessary for me, i'll choose to be a gambler when timing is right , you see brows.gif
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post Apr 21 2008, 11:37 AM

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then it shd be written "some are investors, some are trader/gamblers, which one are you???"

ei..mana hanif......sapcres yellow liao....i wanna bang him liao! ahahahha

'sui tor hao'

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 11:32 AM)
lol the title says "we are investors, not gambler"

haha!

not necessary for me, i'll choose to be a gambler when timing is right , you see  brows.gif
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 21 2008, 11:37 AM)
then it shd be written  "some are investors, some are trader/gamblers, which one are you???"

ei..mana hanif......sapcres yellow liao....i wanna bang him liao! ahahahha

'sui tor hao'
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haha..noted..

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post Apr 21 2008, 11:42 AM

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I think Sapcres cannot chiong these few days liao. It seems consolidating at this stage , like previously during 1.30 times.
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post Apr 21 2008, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 21 2008, 11:27 AM)
It might go up to 1.35 only in near short term. Resistance quite high at this level.

If can get in at 1.30, then get some some chicken wings
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learn from cherroy.. i queue slightly below tis.. 1/2 sens also dunwan give him laugh.gif
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post Apr 21 2008, 11:47 AM

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i wonder what decision would seng_kiat make? rolleyes.gif

1. sell at loss (at 1.48 or lower)
2. sell at breakeven price (at 1.51, loss on commision)
3. sell at gain (provided it goes above 1.52)
4. take up the share
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 11:47 AM)
i wonder what decision would seng_kiat make? rolleyes.gif

1. sell at loss (at 1.48 or lower)
2. sell at breakeven price (at 1.51, loss on commision)
3. sell at gain (provided it goes above 1.52)
4. take up the share
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that wud be interesting, yoo-hoo Seng-kiat, where are you? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 11:47 AM)
i wonder what decision would seng_kiat make? rolleyes.gif

1. sell at loss (at 1.48 or lower)
2. sell at breakeven price (at 1.51, loss on commision)
3. sell at gain (provided it goes above 1.52)
4. take up the share
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Me que at 1.50, chances are high will fall back to 1.48 during closing sweat.gif
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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 21 2008, 11:51 AM)
Me que at 1.50, chances are high will fall back to 1.48 during closing  sweat.gif
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selling @ 1.50 with gain?
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still on sapcres? if anyone notice topglove is doing pretty well these few weeks too.
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 21 2008, 11:52 AM)
selling @ 1.50 with gain?
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Yup, with some peanuts

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post Apr 21 2008, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 21 2008, 11:55 AM)
Yup, with some peanuts
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 11:47 AM)
i wonder what decision would seng_kiat make? rolleyes.gif

1. sell at loss (at 1.48 or lower)
2. sell at breakeven price (at 1.51, loss on commision)
3. sell at gain (provided it goes above 1.52)
4. take up the share
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Ei pana...u'll make him panic leh!!!! now he is losing KFC barrel liao la......dun scare him hehehehehe


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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 21 2008, 11:56 AM)
wao! resorts chiong ar~~~
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yalo...y Genting din follow suite one...... cry.gif

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 11:47 AM)
i wonder what decision would seng_kiat make? rolleyes.gif

1. sell at loss (at 1.48 or lower)
2. sell at breakeven price (at 1.51, loss on commision)
3. sell at gain (provided it goes above 1.52)
4. take up the share
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haha .. i set my lowest price is RM1.45 .. if it touches it, i will let go at loss .. but now, i already queuing at 1.52 .. i want my kfc dinner plat! .. tongue.gif ..
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yahlor, both MAYBULK & RESORTS cheong 15% (in one month's time)

two good boat. have to wait for the next round liao.

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 21 2008, 12:01 PM)
haha .. i set my lowest price is RM1.45 .. if it touches it, i will let go at loss .. but now, i already queuing at 1.52 .. i want my kfc dinner plat! .. tongue.gif ..
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oh...ho....gud luck to you then smile.gif
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so Seng_Kiat...looks like u r a gambler la tongue.gif hehehhehe

time to eat KFC lo....lunch time! hhehee
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post Apr 21 2008, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 12:04 PM)
yahlor, both MAYBULK & RESORTS cheong 15% (in one month's time)

two good boat. have to wait for the next round liao.
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maybulk ~4.50 alr.. haihz...
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 21 2008, 12:06 PM)
oh...ho....gud luck to you then smile.gif
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em .. why? no chance for it to go up? ..
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erm... after some mathematic works..
it seems i have put in too much portion of my money into stock market...
roughly 30% now... will it be too high in terms of financial allocation??

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MRCB is looking good at the moment .. sad.gif .. i was in between last time either MRCB or Sapcrest but i choose sapcres because of current oit and gas price ..

if i choose MRCB last time, now, not only KFC, even pizza hut, johny's, secret recipe also can afford . hahaha .. tongue.gif ..

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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 21 2008, 01:30 PM)
erm... after some mathematic works..
it seems i have put in too much portion of my money into stock market...
roughly 30% now... will it be too high in terms of financial allocation??
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30% of ur savings????

hmm...i'm not sure...but for me...shd be ok if u still group ur investment in ur share as in like
20% for goreng
30% for long term
50% for dividend counters

for me....i also use around 30% of my savings for share.....but now almost 70% of my money in share is in dividen counters or KLCI big brothers like pbbank, genting etc
sapcres is my major 'goreng long term' counters heheheehhee

guess depends on individual......i'm not sure actually....better ask Master Cherroy n Dreamer101
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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 21 2008, 01:30 PM)
erm... after some mathematic works..
it seems i have put in too much portion of my money into stock market...
roughly 30% now... will it be too high in terms of financial allocation??
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It depends on individual risk appetide. There is no such thing of standard for it.
I don't 100% believe in most financial advice given one like if you are in mid-20, you can alloate up to 70% into stock while if you are 50, then it should be 20%.

Hey, if I am 20 years old, but I am a conservative one, then putting 20% into stocks still fine,as it is my risk appetide. While even I am 50, I put 50% into stocks beause I am a risk taker and aware of the risk and consequences of it, that's fine too. Most importantly, you feel comfortable with it and sleep well every night. I had seen plenty of people have sleepless night even buying shares only, then it is not a right way to do.

In the end of the day, as long as you know what you are doing and perfectly understand the risk and consequences when/if it goes wrong, then it is your money, you decide what to do with it.

But remember to distinguish out the stocks. When I mentioned about stock I mean some good fundamental stock, not purely 'goreng' stock.

Don't try to play long term with 'goreng' stock, most of the time won't work well.

Just my 2 cents.
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Most importantly, you feel comfortable with it and sleep well every night.

yeah rite~~ currently still ok... im not worrying much bout that..
i didnt goreng one... all counters that im holding now should be considered as good fundamental...
as least they r company that still earning money with PE <10 smile.gif

act what im doing is... i calculate the money that i shouldnt touch n leave in saving acc as ( monthly expense x 6 months)..

if really so bad get fired or retrench by co, still can tahan 6 months to find a new job...
haha.. make sense? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 21 2008, 01:57 PM)
Most importantly, you feel comfortable with it and sleep well every night.

yeah rite~~ currently still ok... im not worrying much bout that..
i didnt goreng one... all counters that im holding now should be considered as good fundamental...
as least they r company that still earning money with PE <10   smile.gif

act what im doing is... i calculate the money that i shouldnt touch n leave in saving acc as ( monthly expense x 6 months)..

if really so bad get fired or retrench by co, still can tahan 6 months to find a new job...
haha.. make sense? laugh.gif
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yeap...very good advice! thumbup.gif for me...i put most of my 'static' money in FD.....just leave some on my savings coz...i scare i might overuse them ehhehehehe


Added on April 21, 2008, 2:17 pmn actually i scare my account was hacked n my money gone/transferred......

i usually kept less than 10k in my savings...

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spsetia is sky rocketing la .. aiseh .. monitor this counter since 4-5 days ago but at that time, i tot, the bot was left me d .. but now .. it really does .. sad.gif .
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 21 2008, 02:42 PM)
spsetia is sky rocketing la .. aiseh .. monitor this counter since 4-5 days ago but at that time, i tot, the bot was left me d .. but now .. it really does .. sad.gif .
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this kind of things always happen

that's why it is important to diversify our shares

eg. buy 10 lots SPSETIA, 10 lots MRCB, 10 lots SAPCRES biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 21 2008, 01:13 PM)
em .. why? no chance for it to go up? ..
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didn't mean that. I tot you really wanted to let go without holding.
I am still holding.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 02:52 PM)
this kind of things always happen

that's why it is important to diversify our shares

eg. buy 10 lots SPSETIA, 10 lots MRCB, 10 lots SAPCRES biggrin.gif
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if that is the case, i need more cent up in order to break event .. say i get 40 lots of sapcres, i only need 2 cent ++ to break event ..
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 21 2008, 03:03 PM)
if that is the case, i need more cent up in order to break event .. say i get 40 lots of sapcres, i only need 2 cent ++ to break event ..
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well, in a way, true also.

QTY plays an important role especially when you plan to play contra / intra.


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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 21 2008, 03:03 PM)
if that is the case, i need more cent up in order to break event .. say i get 40 lots of sapcres, i only need 2 cent ++ to break event ..
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u cannot have it all ma.....dun bother bout other counters la...if the stock u like or monitor closely one...u shd only take more notice on it when there's a sudden drop of price....if u have confident then u shd take some at tat time after learning the reason for the drop and tat it has minor/no effects on future earnings/prospects....hehehehehe

unless u likes to play contra or goreng type then diff story la meaning single day uptrend/downtrend is very important to u.....if not.....if SPSETIA go up 0.30 today...tomolo go down 0.400 so wat's the point v get 'high' today n 'low' tomolo.....hahahhaa

yes...for small players like us (or rather me), if u buy little then better to concentrate on a good stock rather than diversified coz the commision fees might eat up all of ur earnings.....
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 21 2008, 02:52 PM)
didn't mean that. I tot you really wanted to let go without holding.
I am still holding.
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Sapcres has a very, very strong resistance at 1.50. If it can pass 1.52, then it will climb very fast to 1.60, the next resistance. So, look out for the 1.52 breakout patren in a few days. 7000+ lots at 1.50 rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 21 2008, 03:21 PM)
Sapcres has a very, very strong resistance at 1.50. If it can pass 1.52, then it will climb very fast to 1.60, the next resistance. So, look out for the 1.52 breakout patren in a few days. 7000+ lots at 1.50  rclxub.gif
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you still queing or sold off? tongue.gif


Added on April 21, 2008, 3:25 pmthis week focus on property, last week focused on water, previous week focused on O & G, what about end of this week & next week?

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 21 2008, 03:23 PM)
you still queing or sold off? tongue.gif


Added on April 21, 2008, 3:25 pmthis week focus on property, last week focused on water, previous week focused on O & G, what about end of this week & next week?
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Still in que loh. Did not check the chart b4 enetering, then realize 1.50 is the next resistance.

My bet finance related stock will go up next.

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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 21 2008, 12:57 PM)
Most importantly, you feel comfortable with it and sleep well every night.

yeah rite~~ currently still ok... im not worrying much bout that..
i didnt goreng one... all counters that im holding now should be considered as good fundamental...
as least they r company that still earning money with PE <10  smile.gif

act what im doing is... i calculate the money that i shouldnt touch n leave in saving acc as ( monthly expense x 6 months)..

if really so bad get fired or retrench by co, still can tahan 6 months to find a new job...
haha.. make sense? laugh.gif
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i only get scolded like shit but wont get retrenched. family business. i can put in 90% of my salary in shares. most of my expenses, company pay.
now thplant go up got kfc /got dividen
sell got kfc keep got dividen
not good with maths dono which one give me more

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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 21 2008, 03:27 PM)
Still in que loh. My bet finance related stock will go up next
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ah...hah! Sounds realistic, it has not got its turn for a darn long time.....! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 21 2008, 03:21 PM)
Sapcres has a very, very strong resistance at 1.50. If it can pass 1.52, then it will climb very fast to 1.60, the next resistance. So, look out for the 1.52 breakout patren in a few days. 7000+ lots at 1.50  rclxub.gif
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7000 x 100 x 1.50 = RM 1,064,000.. r u kidding me?? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 21 2008, 03:28 PM)
ah...hah! Sounds realistic, it has not got its turn for a darn long time.....! tongue.gif
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really?? go go PBBANK rclxms.gif hehehehe
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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 21 2008, 03:28 PM)
7000 x 100 x 1.50 = RM 1,064,000.. r u kidding me?? shocking.gif
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I mean 7000+ lots on que lah, nit that I bought it vmad.gif
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QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Apr 21 2008, 03:27 PM)
i only get scolded like shit but wont get retrenched. family business.  i can put in 90% of my salary in shares. most of my expenses, company pay.
now thplant go up got kfc /got dividen
sell got kfc keep got dividen
not good with maths dono which one give me more
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how lucky u! No need to crack your head & your bones, just a sad puppy look will do, like your avatar... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 21 2008, 03:28 PM)
7000 x 100 x 1.50 = RM 1,064,000.. r u kidding me?? shocking.gif
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7,000 lots is small small nia by market standard.

Look at the Q at Sime 20,000 lots
20,000 x 100 x Rm10.00 = Rm20 millions.

Still somebody can take it all. Total trade for Sime currently is 166,000 lots.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 21 2008, 03:31 PM)
7,000 lots is small small nia by market standard.

Look at the Q at Sime 20,000 lots
20,000 x 100 x Rm10.00 = Rm20 millions.

Still somebody can take it all. Total trade for Sime currently is 166,000 lots.
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small players like us will feel a lot ma hehehehhe.....dun laugh at us la.....
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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 21 2008, 03:31 PM)
I mean 7000+ lots on que lah, nit that I bought it  vmad.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 21 2008, 03:31 PM)
7,000 lots is small small nia by market standard.

Look at the Q at Sime 20,000 lots
20,000 x 100 x Rm10.00 = Rm20 millions.

Still somebody can take it all. Total trade for Sime currently is 166,000 lots.
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lol... i tot dsugums said he is holding 7000+ lot.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 21 2008, 03:31 PM)
7,000 lots is small small nia by market standard.

Look at the Q at Sime 20,000 lots
20,000 x 100 x Rm10.00 = Rm20 millions.

Still somebody can take it all. Total trade for Sime currently is 166,000 lots.
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Ahh, it depends on market capitilisation. Sapcres is peanuts compared to Sime flex.gif
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QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Apr 21 2008, 03:27 PM)
i only get scolded like shit but wont get retrenched. family business.  i can put in 90% of my salary in shares. most of my expenses, company pay.
now thplant go up got kfc /got dividen
sell got kfc keep got dividen
not good with maths dono which one give me more
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so good in a sense that....u only needs to use 10% of ur salary for expenses!!!!
90% of salary in shares..... v need more ppl like to push up KLCI volume tongue.gif
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hmmm dunno la but if wanna goreng, go for forex, futures, options, etc better in my opinion, less commision and very volatile, not boring at all. If shares, better go for long term investment.

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this week focus on property, last week focused on water, previous week focused on O & G, what about end of this week & next week?
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My bet finance related stock will go up next.
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 21 2008, 03:29 PM)
really?? go go PBBANK  rclxms.gif  hehehehe
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aww without my notice, MAHSING has come to 1.48 already

last 2 weeks still stucking at 1.39-1.40, it moved, it seems.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 03:44 PM)
aww without my notice, MAHSING has come to 1.48 already

last 2 weeks still stucking at 1.39-1.40, it moved, it seems.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 03:43 PM)
property? why saying so? got significant surging for property stock?  hmm.gif
aye, i second that biggrin.gif
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today SPsetia, KLCC property are leading the gain of all the property stocks.
Analysts has been saying that property stocks were bashed bad ly recently, blah...blah...blah....so up-lah, blah-blah.
Today's news.
(Oh.... if only I'm the writer & buy one day beforehand, grrr.....) vmad.gif
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 21 2008, 03:49 PM)
today SPsetia, KLCC property are leading the gain of all the property stocks.
Analysts has been saying that property stocks were bashed bad ly recently, blah...blah...blah....so up-lah, blah-blah.
Today's news.
(Oh.... if only I'm the writer & buy one day beforehand, grrr.....) vmad.gif
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Told you, mood swing very fast one.

One day analysts all said bad about finance stock in US, then after Citigroup reported 15 billions loss (more than most expected), then said this is the worst, and will become better. Haha, don't it just reported worst than you all estimated, now with sweet dream last night, mood change liao.

Just prior before locally, all said properties sector and company will have hard time ahead especailly in opposition contolled state. Now said have good future just after 1 week?
Sometimes, nothing to say then just put up a lame reason to support the claim. You can't leave the article space blank mah especially in newspaper one, very unprofessional sometimes. Even price qouting or dividend qoute also get it wrong.

Don't mean to criticise the analysts comments, but it is the reality and sentiment can change quite fast one.

But over the long term, sentiment is not the one determine how far a stock can go. Fundamental part is the one will lead a stock to higher or lower.

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 03:44 PM)
aww without my notice, MAHSING has come to 1.48 already

last 2 weeks still stucking at 1.39-1.40, it moved, it seems.
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mahsing next resistance is 1.55, still can go in, if have the bullets drool.gif
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mahsing next resistance is 1.55, still can go in, if have the bullets  drool.gif
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how u see the resistance value??
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how u see the resistance value??
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need to look at the charts. my next bet is Kencana going to shoot up, already hovering about the 1.80 resistance. If can close above this level, it might shoot up to 2.10. Just my analysis
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 03:44 PM)
aww without my notice, MAHSING has come to 1.48 already

last 2 weeks still stucking at 1.39-1.40, it moved, it seems.
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Even mrcb also +0.09
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i got kfc dinner plat today from mrcb .. sold at 1.38 .. bought at 1.29 .. nevermind .. got dinner plate is enought la .. tongue.gif ..
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i got kfc dinner plat today from mrcb .. sold at 1.38 .. bought at 1.29 .. nevermind .. got dinner plate is enought la .. tongue.gif ..
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lucky dude tongue.gif tongue.gif
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lucky dude  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
haha.. kidding kidding... rclxms.gif
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lucky dude  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
haha.. kidding kidding... rclxms.gif
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As said, newbie always got newbie luck or virgin luck. icon_rolleyes.gif

Enjoy the KFC then.
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airasia plane still dont wan let me jump on it....
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airasia plane still dont wan let me jump on it....
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u cannot simply jump the flight la . u need to buy a ticket in order to get it .. smile.gif ..
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As said, newbie always got newbie luck or virgin luck.  icon_rolleyes.gif

Enjoy the KFC then.
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and after this ... brows.gif
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 21 2008, 04:18 PM)
u cannot simply jump the flight la . u need to buy a ticket in order to get it .. smile.gif ..
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anything positive going on for Airasia? I thought this share not that fantastic -right? I may be wrong unsure.gif
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anything positive going on for Airasia? I thought this share not that fantastic -right? I may be wrong unsure.gif
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 21 2008, 04:27 PM)
anything positive going on for Airasia? I thought this share not that fantastic -right? I may be wrong unsure.gif
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It is just that it has bottom out. Can expect some rebound soon, maybe by this week, but maybe up to 1.35
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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 21 2008, 04:31 PM)
It is just that it has bottom out. Can expect some rebound soon, maybe by this week, but maybe up to 1.35
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ok...I see, fast-in-fast-out (FIFO system )
will monitor in my list.
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DIGI & DIGI-CB back to friday's closing price!

investors profit taking huh...

if i am not mistaken, DIGI 4th quater result was out on a 25th Jan/Feb. i assume this time would be somewhere around that, too.

p/s: sharesa, that is Volvo's Wagon, right? my ex loves that car smile.gif
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and after this ...  brows.gif
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ok...I see, fast-in-fast-out (FIFO system )
will monitor in my list.
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lol i thought FIFO implies First-In-First-Out in computer jargon

now it become Fast-In-Fast-Out when it comes to stock market laugh.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 04:35 PM)
DIGI & DIGI-CB back to friday's closing price!

investors profit taking huh...

if i am not mistaken, DIGI 4th quater result was out on a 25th Jan/Feb. i assume this time would be somewhere around that, too.

p/s: sharesa, that is Volvo's Wagon, right? my ex loves that car smile.gif
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yup, bontot big & cantik-lah. So many rubbish can dump in. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 21 2008, 04:36 PM)
what u meant by after this? will suffer? .. tongue.gif .
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too much KFC bad for health ma biggrin.gif just a friendly reminder fr Pana
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 21 2008, 04:38 PM)
yup, bontot big & cantik-lah. So many rubbish can dump in. tongue.gif
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same here, me & abang oso love that car biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 21 2008, 04:30 PM)
nth positive...  simply bcoz my sixth sense ask me to queue.. might be to holland if can get tongue.gif
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Airasia flies you to Holland then.
Joking only.

Airasia profit and growth wise has big potential. But with the non-stop rising oil price, it will put lot of pressure on all airliners. Fuel cost is the major cost of airliners which is uncontrollable by them.
That's why you see airliners are being left out in recent rally.

Also got thinking on it, play small small to earn few cents to ten, should be no problem. Just my taught.

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 21 2008, 04:36 PM)
what u meant by after this? will suffer? .. tongue.gif .
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After this, become greedy liao, and bet even bigger and playing in 'crocodile farm'. Sorry sorry no offence. tongue.gif


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EXMOBIL-C1, an jua? ai mai? tongue.gif

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noticed that EXMOBIL-C1 volume is higher than DIGI-CB. rolleyes.gif

but EXMOBIL-C1 seller is more than buyer, which is not a good thing.

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Airasia flies you to Holland then.
Joking only.

Airasia profit and growth wise has big potential. But with the non-stop rising oil price, it will put lot of pressure on all airliners. Fuel cost is the major cost of airliners which is uncontrollable by them.
That's why you see airliners are being left out in recent rally.

Also got thinking on it, play small small to earn few cents to ten, should be no problem. Just my taught.
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yupe.. and the airasia-X is a bet actually.. as we can see now some of the similar flight co alr closed shop recently.
but if it works..
haha.. tis would be the counter tat my sixth sense tells me can up 100% if u hold it cool2.gif

im a optimistic dude laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 21 2008, 04:46 PM)
After this, become greedy liao, and bet even bigger and playing in 'crocodile farm'. Sorry sorry no offence.  tongue.gif
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aiyo, Cherroy, don't snarl rolleyes.gif at him, tongue.gif or just a warning to newbies?


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cherroy~~!!

EXMOBIL-C1, an jua? ai mai? tongue.gif

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noticed that EXMOBIL-C1 volume is higher than DIGI-CB.  rolleyes.gif
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I thought TAK NAK warrants? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 04:47 PM)
cherroy~~!!

EXMOBIL-C1, an jua? ai mai? tongue.gif
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No, concern about its liquidity.
Need to at least take 1000 lots and above, only got 'meat' and get away with the min commission.
I more concentrate on Genting and Atrium currently and thinking of selling Shell. icon_rolleyes.gif


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aiyo, Cherroy, don't snarl rolleyes.gif  at him, tongue.gif or just a warning to newbies?

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Reminder only lah. icon_rolleyes.gif smile.gif
Saw too many examples. So don't want people to repeat it.

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I thought TAK NAK warrants? tongue.gif
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you know, saja gatal tongue.gif

QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 21 2008, 04:50 PM)
No, concern about its liquidity.
Need to at least take 1000 lots and above, only got 'meat' and get away with the min commission.
I more concentrate on Genting and Atrium currently and thinking of selling Shell.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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emm emm, ATRIUM is not my cuppa of tea

GENTING yah, if it comes to 6.00 or 6.10, count me in then.
and set a short TP to sell at 6.50 - 6.70 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 04:54 PM)
you know, saja gatal tongue.gif
emm emm, ATRIUM is not my cuppa of tea

GENTING yah, if it comes to 6.00 or 6.10, count me in then.
and set a short TP to sell at 6.50 - 6.70  laugh.gif
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Then I help you to scratch the 'gatal'. rclxms.gif

OT OT.

Reit is for old folks one. laugh.gif

Genting still in down trend even though market (KLCI) recover a bit.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 21 2008, 04:56 PM)
Then I help you to scratch the 'gatal'.  rclxms.gif

OT OT.

Reit is for old folks one.  laugh.gif

Genting still in down trend even though market (KLCI) recover a bit.
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eeeee cherroy notti tongue.gif

yah actually i am not very keen on both ATRIUM & GENTING.

reasons, as per what you mentioned, one is for old folks as it barely move and the later one is currently in down trend.
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resorts close flat.. fed up....
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 05:00 PM)
eeeee cherroy notti tongue.gif

yah actually i am not very keen on both ATRIUM & GENTING.

reasons, as per what you mentioned, one is for old folks as it barely move and the later one is currently in down trend.
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For Genting, only when the Singapore casino is fully running, only will see whether it is a good buy or not. Until now, it is under lot of scrutinise due to massive expansion programme which concern some.

For me, just may be take 1 or 2 for fun only, not my exactly my cup of tea either, won't put too much on it. Like you said, gatal mah. tongue.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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For Genting, only when the Singapore casino is fully running, only will see whether it is a good buy or not. Until now, it is under lot of scrutinise due to massive expansion programme which concern some.

For me, just may be take 1 or 2 for fun only, not my exactly my cup of tea either, won't put too much on it. Like you said, gatal mah.  tongue.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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1 or 2 means???
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1 or 2 means???
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I mean 1 biji (x1000), not 1 lot (x100), 1 lot with min commissin will kill all the fun liao. icon_rolleyes.gif


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I mean 1 biji (x1000), not 1 lot (x100), 1 lot with min commissin will kill all the fun liao.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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haha.. tats y i ask to clarify lo...
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if genting goes 6.6 , i kick out 1 biji . buy back when it drop 6.3
dont dare to kick out more than 1 biji. what if i manage to sell, then the bugger go up 6.7, 6.8, 6.9.. always happen to me.

i kick out resort at 3.42 so that i can buy at lower price but the smart resort go up and hit 3.5 . if drop 3.25 , gua pickup 1-2 biji.

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I managed bought sapcres at 1.48...

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I managed bought sapcres at 1.48...
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y no ppl here interested with jaks? (im jaks supporter tongue.gif )
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Apple will announce 2nd quarter result on Wednesday night, analyst forecast to be 1.07, do u think apple-c1 will surge if actual record beat the forecast, just like what happened to google-c1 ? Apple currently price at 164+ , almost close to the Exercise Price, which is USD 171. If result is good, probably apple-c1 will be in-money.

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Apple will announce 2nd quarter result on Wednesday night, analyst forecast to be 1.07, do u think apple-c1 will surge if actual record beat the forecast, just like what happened to google-c1 ?
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Even if Apple share surges, does it enough to make the Apple-C1 moves? This is the key question.

If a CW is massively 'out of money', unlesss the mothershare moves to a price that CW has potentially 'in money' situation, then the CW might not respond or just have little response.

Look at Google-C1, even though Google mothershare surge 20% from 460 to 540, Google-C1 still way 'out of money' of its exercise price 680. So Google-C1 situation has not much change, still value 0.

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looks like tomorrow will be a boring day .. DJ down by 90++ at the moment ..
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early morning .. index red .. sapcres red .. sad.gif ..
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early morning .. index red .. sapcres red .. sad.gif ..
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DJIA closed at 12825.02 (-24.34), minor drop only.
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sapcres is dropping .. rgh! ..
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sapcres is dropping .. rgh! ..
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Relax my friend. As long as u can hold on it, no problem for sure..
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i cant pick up it .. no more allocation of saving for stock .. what do u guys think, at least your opinion la .. will it recover back to 1.50 in 2 days? .. left 2 days .. argh .. tongue.gif .
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lol i kind of know that you are playing contra on this SAPCRES.

if you plan to take up the share, you wouldn't care about the 1 sen or 2 sen drop tongue.gif

i thought you set a cut-loss point at 1.45 isn't? just stick with that then. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 09:28 AM)
i cant pick up it .. no more allocation of saving for stock .. what do u guys think, at least your opinion la .. will it recover back to 1.50 in 2 days? .. left 2 days .. argh .. tongue.gif .
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Well, if you can't pick it up then it doesn't matter right? No point stressing about it since you can't pick it up anyways. Just hold until force sell lah, no point to stress about it.

Managed to throw mrcb at 1.38, now start to drop like a rock sweat.gif

Anyways, today feels like a shopping day hmm.gif Anybody planning to shop?



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no, nothing to shop on my side.


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no, nothing to shop on my side.
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buy more sapcres if the boat come back.. i bought at 1.51 & 1.48 that day.
premium is good if it goes below 1.7 been monitoring it for quite some time now. (if holland don't blame me)


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yesterday oil stock were doing well in US although DOW down, MAYBE will have some spillover effects on Malaysia's market
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time and timecom volume quite high, y ah??
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Apr 22 2008, 10:00 AM)
time and timecom volume quite high, y ah??
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i let my sapcres go at 1.47 .. now it is 1.50 .. arghhhh!!!

discipline is important .. event I said my cut loss point is 1.45 .. but i let go at 1.47 .. if and only if I wait for a few minute .. sad.gif ..
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Apr 22 2008, 10:00 AM)
time and timecom volume quite high, y ah??
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 10:03 AM)
i let my sapcres go at 1.47 .. now it is 1.50 .. arghhhh!!!

discipline is important .. event I said my cut loss point is 1.45 .. but i let go at 1.47 .. if and only if I wait for a few minute .. sad.gif ..
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y let go so fast?? i tot u said got 2 more days left??
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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 22 2008, 10:05 AM)
y let go so fast?? i tot u said got 2 more days left??
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yup .. because i scared it will drop and drop .. like SPSETIA last few weeks ..
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guys any good fundemental share now? that have consisten dividen
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 10:09 AM)
yup .. because i scared it will drop and drop .. like SPSETIA last few weeks ..
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 10:09 AM)
yup .. because i scared it will drop and drop .. like SPSETIA last few weeks ..
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Added on April 22, 2008, 10:24 amsapcres 1.52 now!

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lol, seng_kiat oh seng_kiat....

if sell now and you will get back your kFC Dinner Plate...
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Sapcres already pass the 1.50 resistance. Next test will be 1.60!

Mine let go at 1.50 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Apr 22 2008, 10:19 AM)
You noticed SPSETIA quite high now right?
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yup .. last time i bought at 3.46 .. hold and hold .. but i scared it will go down again .. then i sold it off .. sad.gif ..


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lol, seng_kiat oh seng_kiat....

if sell now and you will get back your kFC Dinner Plate...
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arghh .. dont say that la .. nevermind .. sad.gif .. dont look back .. it never change again .. looks forward for KFC dinner plate .. flex.gif

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 10:27 AM)
yup .. last time i bought at 3.46 .. hold and hold .. but i scared it will go down again .. then i sold it off .. sad.gif ..

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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 22 2008, 10:27 AM)
Sapcres already pass the 1.50 resistance. Next test will be 1.60!

Mine let go at 1.50  biggrin.gif
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the resistance level sound like staying at 1.52

everytime when it comes to 1.52, it will drop back to 1.46 - 1.47 hmm.gif
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time and timecom volume quite high, y ah??
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This goreng counter is very heavy one, need very big goreng wok and lot of oils before it can actually move. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 10:33 AM)
the resistance level sound like staying at 1.52

everytime when it comes to 1.52, it will drop back to 1.46 - 1.47  hmm.gif
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Accumulation?
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Sorry, no offence, but with emotion like this (scare), it is difficult to make big buck in the market.
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yup .. no problem . but i have a thin pocket to pay for the loss .. that is better i give up rather than finding 'along' at the end of the day if it doesnt go the way i want ..
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 10:03 AM)
i let my sapcres go at 1.47 .. now it is 1.50 .. arghhhh!!!

discipline is important .. event I said my cut loss point is 1.45 .. but i let go at 1.47 .. if and only if I wait for a few minute .. sad.gif ..
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Why we can't just wait it to bounce back to next resistance level at 1.60?? Can we wait for it to bounce back to avoid loses??

Just want to ask you guys, what's the drawback to hold it??

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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Apr 22 2008, 10:34 AM)
Accumulation?
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If it can pass 1.52, then next stop will be 1.60. Be patient, just hope it does not pull back at 1.48 blink.gif
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sapcres really meant to drop me in the middle of laut china selatan .. tongue.gif .. now it goes further .. sad.gif ... wa waa .. arghhh! .. down!!!
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QUOTE(nofear0720 @ Apr 22 2008, 10:35 AM)
Why we can't just wait it to bounce back to next resistance level at 1.60?? Can we wait for it to bounce back to avoid loses??

Just want to ask you guys, what's the drawback to hold it??
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if u play contra....u cant hold long...just the T+3 period....if u r worried it might cont dropping so better to cut loss now..
tat's y better dun play contra...if u dun play contra....n u feel the counter/share is a good one...u will not get worried...u'll be confident it will bounce back...u can just hold it longer until the TP to sell but of course...there's no guarantee it will go up back...or how long it needs to go up back.....

u need to make ur own decision based on ur own 'play'

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Cherroy, what do you think of TM? Sucker's bet? Or good fundamentals on TM? Should ppl be buying today?
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 10:42 AM)
sapcres really meant to drop me in the middle of laut china selatan .. tongue.gif .. now it goes further .. sad.gif ... wa waa .. arghhh! .. down!!!
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I told you resistance is at 1.52 and lower support is at 1.46. You need to look at the chart before buying. If it is already near the resistance, better wait for it to break it before going in.
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i just don't feel good if play contra but with limited cash, i'd rather not to play.

imagine everytime cutting lost before T+3, you tend to lose more than win, you see. like our senior here say, last time when there is T+7, one also can't fully guarantee that he can breakeven or make money after the 7 days.

goreng also need to see time. when market is bullish, close one eye, cincai pick, tomolo also can sell, can make money. but definitely not to goreng as time like now.

my USD$ 2 cent....

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 10:35 AM)
yup .. no problem . but i have a thin pocket to pay for the loss .. that is better i give up rather than finding 'along' at the end of the day if it doesnt go the way i want ..
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Contra is a dangerous game to play, just a reminder. Play or invest until you are afford.

Cheers.

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 10:45 AM)
i just don't feel good if play contra but with limited cash, i'd rather not to play.

imagine everytime cutting lost before T+3, you tend to lose more than win, you see. like our senior here say, last time when there is T+7, one also can't fully guarantee that he can breakeven or make money after the 7 days.

goreng also need to see time. when market is bullish, close one day, cincai pick, tomolo also can sell, can make money. but definitely not to goreng as time like now.

my USD$ 2 cent....
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laugh.gif expensive advice (as in US$), so you are Pana-Michelle? tongue.gif
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laugh.gif  expensive advice (as in US$), so you are Pana-Michelle? tongue.gif
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lol just trying to be funny, la la la tongue.gif

no la seriously, just want to share what i had gone through before.

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Cherroy, what do you think of TM? Sucker's bet? Or good fundamentals on TM? Should ppl be buying today?
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TM with fixed line and broadband business, it is hard to see breakthrough in the business as we knew fixed line is mature and potentially be challenged by HP and wireless product.

TMinternational (cellular business) might be better than TM due to the prospect of HP and wireless internet.

Buying today is mean you are speculate TM + TMinternational > current TM price, aka chalk up significant gain when they first listing.
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 22 2008, 10:43 AM)
if u play contra....u cant hold long...just the T+3 period....if u r worried it might cont dropping so better to cut loss now..
tat's y better dun play contra...if u dun play contra....n u feel the counter/share is a good one...u will not get worried...u'll be confident it will bounce back...u can just hold it longer until the TP to sell but of course...there's no guarantee it will go up back...or how long it needs to go up back.....

u need to make ur own decision based on ur own 'play'
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What is the pros and cons to play contra? Do you mean that if I wan to play contra, I need to sell my share in T+3 and beyong that, the share will be forced to sell?

Ya that's what i mean. I'm waiting for my TP to sell.

Appreciate your explanation. biggrin.gif
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TM with fixed line and broadband business, it is hard to see breakthrough in the business as we knew fixed line is mature and potentially be challenged by HP and wireless product.

TMinternational (cellular business) might be better than TM due to the prospect of HP and wireless internet.

Buying today is mean you are speculate TM + TMinternational > current TM price, aka chalk up significant gain when they first listing.
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what is you view? sum price of post merger more or less than TM now? If you had to speculate... tongue.gif
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what is you view? sum price of post merger more or less than TM now? If you had to speculate... tongue.gif
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Sapcres has quite a strong support at 1.52 now. Hope it hold up until closing sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 22 2008, 11:00 AM)
if not mistaken, I heard analysts target around 7.70 for TM International
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How bout TM?
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What is the pros and cons to play contra? Do you mean that if I wan to play contra, I need to sell my share in T+3 and beyong that, the share will be forced to sell?

Ya that's what i mean. I'm waiting for my TP to sell.

Appreciate your explanation.  biggrin.gif
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Contra - mean you take advatange of T+3. As normally, buying share, you don't need to pay when you buy. You only pay after 3 days, so basically, in this T+3, you don't need to pay up a single cent. So even you have no money, you still can buy but you need to sell off when payment data come. So if T+3 time, share price goes up, sell price > buy price + commission + clearing fee + stamp duty, then you are gaining money without any capital.
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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 22 2008, 11:01 AM)
Sapcres has quite a strong support at 1.52 now. Hope it hold up until closing  sweat.gif
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I hope so too. At this juncture, I think price can hold up because today's buy volume is picking up.
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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 22 2008, 11:01 AM)
Sapcres has quite a strong support at 1.52 now. Hope it hold up until closing  sweat.gif
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dont talk about sapcres la .. bettter put S*****S .. sensitive to me maaa .. tongue.gif ..
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what is you view? sum price of post merger more or less than TM now? If you had to speculate... tongue.gif
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If I am forced to speculate then I speculate it will open flat.

This is not merger but the other way round, splitting.
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If I am forced to speculate then I speculate it will open flat.

This is not merger but the other way round, splitting.
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sorry, demerger I mean..thanks for ur views..I will not try this speculation..too risky

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dont talk about sapcres la .. bettter put S*****S .. sensitive to me maaa .. tongue.gif ..
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Can go in again mah? I am already in again brows.gif

Now too high oredi. Wait until it pass 1.55, will take a few days at least, I think hmm.gif

Ooops, the 1.55 wall collapsing fast rclxms.gif

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S*****S now 1.54 hehehehhee....1.60 in sight soon
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 11:02 AM)
Contra - mean you take advatange of T+3. As normally, buying share, you don't need to pay when you buy. You only pay after 3 days, so basically, in this T+3, you don't need to pay up a single cent. So even you have no money, you still can buy but you need to sell off when payment data come. So if T+3 time, share price goes up, sell price > buy price + commission + clearing fee + stamp duty, then you are gaining money without any capital.
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Thanks for clearing my doubts. tongue.gif

So I must call up my remiser to buy the share instead of using the online trading?? I know intra can be played via online trading but how about contra??
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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 22 2008, 11:07 AM)
Can go in again mah? I am already in again  brows.gif

Now too high oredi. Wait until it pass 1.55, will take a few days at least, I think  hmm.gif

Ooops, the 1.55 wall collapsing fast  rclxms.gif
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em .. nevermind .. want to switch to kencana d .. it breaks 1.80 resistance .. smile.gif ..
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 11:15 AM)
em .. nevermind .. want to switch to kencana d .. it breaks 1.80 resistance .. smile.gif ..
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try to bet on shares that you are familiar with its movement, momentum, history & future tongue.gif . So that you can't go wrong much.
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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 22 2008, 11:07 AM)
Can go in again mah? I am already in again  brows.gif

Now too high oredi. Wait until it pass 1.55, will take a few days at least, I think  hmm.gif

Ooops, the 1.55 wall collapsing fast  rclxms.gif
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@1.55 has a 5-digit wall tongue.gif
hope the volume can smash it to pieces

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 22 2008, 11:23 AM)
try to bet on shares that you are familiar with its movement, momentum, history & future tongue.gif . So that you can't go wrong much.
Juz my opinion smile.gif


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@1.55 has a 5-digit wall tongue.gif
hope the volume can smash it to pieces
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em .. nevermind .. want to switch to kencana d .. it breaks 1.80 resistance .. smile.gif ..
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I have been monitoring Kencana past few days. It has already past it 1.80 resistance yesterday and today. Next might be 2.00. It is going up 4-6 cents daily with a bit of pull back during closing. I think it will close at 1.83 - 1.85. I am also in this stock for contra.

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Yeah, earlier it was like only 5K lots in que, now shit it is 10K +  rclxub.gif
How can we check how many shares in queue?? From the best buy volume??
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Seadrill is accumulating Sapcres everyday 2.5 millions shares for the last week.
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Seadrill is accumulating Sapcres everyday 2.5 millions shares for the last week.
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something is cooking??? they know something v dunno??? anyway....better hold on to the share for the time being ....
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 11:39 AM)
Seadrill is accumulating Sapcres everyday 2.5 millions shares for the last week.
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Play coming on?

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QUOTE(nofear0720 @ Apr 22 2008, 11:13 AM)
Thanks for clearing my doubts. tongue.gif

So I must call up my remiser to buy the share instead of using the online trading?? I know intra can be played via online trading but how about contra??
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Intra day, contra or any buying/selling counter -> you can do it online or phone-call to remisier.
For contra transaction, you no need to pickup shares as mentioned by LYN forumer earlier. If you decided to pickup the shares, it will done automatically if your account contain monies to pick it up.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 11:39 AM)
Seadrill is accumulating Sapcres everyday 2.5 millions shares for the last week.
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something is cooking??? they know something v dunno??? anyway....better hold on to the share for the time being ....
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Play coming on?
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I'm thinking they probably going to pass some jobs to Sapcres, since they are one of the major shareholders. Recently they were awarded jobs worth at least US$4 billion in Singapore & South Korea
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I'm thinking they probably going to pass some jobs to Sapcres, since they are one of the major shareholders. Recently they were awarded jobs worth at least US$4 billion in Singapore & South Korea
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Yes, you've mentioned this before...you might be right..going in below 1.50?
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Yes, you've mentioned this before...you might be right..going in below 1.50?
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nop ...below 1.20 hehehhehe rclxms.gif
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SAPCRES!!! i wait for you at 2.50!!! biggrin.gif
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Yes, you've mentioned this before...you might be right..going in below 1.50?
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my garden is full of Sapcres already (180 lots) tongue.gif
enough for me time being, I'm just waiting to pick up the fruits when it ripes according to my taste biggrin.gif
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my garden is full of Sapcres already (180 lots)  tongue.gif
enough for me time being, I'm just waiting to pick up the fruits when it ripes according to my taste biggrin.gif
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you sound like the owner of a fruit farm laugh.gif
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my garden is full of Sapcres already (180 lots)  tongue.gif
enough for me time being, I'm just waiting to pick up the fruits when it ripes according to my taste biggrin.gif
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Wah you slowly accumulate huh...
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sharesa...since u r the major shareholder of Sapcres in LYN (like seadrill)...u shd follow suite to up ur stakes in Sapcres......

then v will be veli happy lo....fast fast clear those queueing at 1.55!


Added on April 22, 2008, 11:54 amSeadrill buys 12.5 million SapuraCrest shares
KUALA LUMPUR: Seadrill Ltd continued to accumulate shares in SapuraCrest Petroleum Bhd, raising its total shareholding to 18.51%.

A filing with Bursa Malaysia showed Seadrill acquired 12.5 million shares from April 14 to 18. The shares were acquired in blocks of 2.5 million each for five consecutive days.

The recent acquisitions raised the Oslo Stock Exchange-listed Seadrill's shareholding to 216.31 million shares.

The company, which is involved in offshore drilling operations, had recently acquired 10 million Sapuracrest shares from April 7-10.

Meanwhile, FMR LLC and FIL Ltd acquired 5.51 million shares of KNM Group Bhd from April 8 to 14.

It acquired 2.02 million KNM shares on April 8 and 1.98 million shares the next day. On April 10, it bought 400,000 shares and 1.09 million shares on April 14. During the period, it also took profit, disposing of 2.68 million KNM shares.

After the latest transactions, its total shareholding was 8.94% or 93.84 million shares.



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you sound like the owner of a fruit farm laugh.gif
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aren't we all? tongue.gif


Added on April 22, 2008, 11:56 am
QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Apr 22 2008, 11:53 AM)
Wah you slowly accumulate huh...
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yup, since Nov 07


Added on April 22, 2008, 11:58 am
QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 22 2008, 11:53 AM)
sharesa...since u r the major shareholder of Sapcres in LYN (like seadrill)...u shd follow suite to up ur stakes in Sapcres......

then v will be veli happy lo....fast fast clear those queueing at 1.55!


Added on April 22, 2008, 11:54 amSeadrill buys 12.5 million SapuraCrest shares
KUALA LUMPUR: Seadrill Ltd continued to accumulate shares in SapuraCrest Petroleum Bhd, raising its total shareholding to 18.51%.

A filing with Bursa Malaysia showed Seadrill acquired 12.5 million shares from April 14 to 18. The shares were acquired in blocks of 2.5 million each for five consecutive days.

The recent acquisitions raised the Oslo Stock Exchange-listed Seadrill's shareholding to 216.31 million shares.

The company, which is involved in offshore drilling operations, had recently acquired 10 million Sapuracrest shares from April 7-10.

Meanwhile, FMR LLC and FIL Ltd acquired 5.51 million shares of KNM Group Bhd from April 8 to 14.

It acquired 2.02 million KNM shares on April 8 and 1.98 million shares the next day. On April 10, it bought 400,000 shares and 1.09 million shares on April 14. During the period, it also took profit, disposing of 2.68 million KNM shares.

After the latest transactions, its total shareholding was 8.94% or 93.84 million shares.
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Aiyah....like that have to borrow money oredy, I wish...I wish! brows.gif

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aren't we all? tongue.gif


Added on April 22, 2008, 11:56 am

yup, since Nov 07
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muahahaha, true also! biggrin.gif

lemme check mine, i bought my SAPCRES in Sept 07, wow more than 6 months edy.
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i should have marries sharesa dy whistling.gif
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aren't we all? tongue.gif


Added on April 22, 2008, 11:56 am

yup, since Nov 07


Added on April 22, 2008, 11:58 am

Aiyah....like that have to borrow money  oredy, I wish...I wish! brows.gif
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I guess ur average price will be quite high then?

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I guess ur average price will be quite high then?
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i feel like i want to take my sapcres .. argh .. damn it la .. life must goes on ..
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go go go..sapcres...
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BJCORP - Goldman Sachs Group Inc (1,200,000 shares acquired)

is this a lot? why is he buying so much? ohmy.gif
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[OT]

hi my frens...in conjunction with Earth day.....pls. make some contribution of ur KFC meal to WWFMalaysia ya

http://www.wwf.org.my/how_you_can_help/donate_main/index.cfm

thanks! help make the world a better place


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[OT]

hi my frens...in conjunction with Earth day.....pls. make some contribution of ur KFC meal to WWFMalaysia ya

http://www.wwf.org.my/how_you_can_help/donate_main/index.cfm

thanks! help make the world a better place
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many gamblers here... young ppl very aggresive blush.gif
there 1000+ counters.. how come the entire forum is only talking bout SAPCRES???!!!!! rclxub.gif
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Hi All,

Why changed to a new thread already?Need to inform you guys. Unisem is moving . did you guys notice that? Sapcrest is moving also. Great.

It's a rally time.


Thank You.


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many gamblers here... young ppl very aggresive  blush.gif
there 1000+ counters.. how come the entire forum is only talking bout SAPCRES???!!!!! rclxub.gif
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haha yeah. Talk in the SAPCRS thread is better. But this is stock market chit chat, so can talk about anything. Just that at least important things being said should be in SAPCRES thread so people won't miss it in this fast moving thread.
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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 22 2008, 12:40 PM)
many gamblers here... young ppl very aggresive  blush.gif
there 1000+ counters.. how come the entire forum is only talking bout SAPCRES???!!!!! rclxub.gif
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Mainly because Sapcres is no the move.

If Genting on the move, then everyone also talk about Genting vice versa.

After all, it is a chit chat forum about stock market.

Cheers.
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BJCORP - Goldman Sachs Group Inc (1,200,000 shares acquired)

is this a lot? why is he buying so much? ohmy.gif
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no comment, guys?

or is it just a norm? hmm.gif
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is it becoz he sold a lot of RCE shares lately n they have lots of bullets...now targetting/transferring their investment to BJCORP instead?
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is it becoz he sold a lot of RCE shares lately n they have lots of bullets...now targetting/transferring their investment to BJCORP instead?
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RCE suddenky moved up today rclxub.gif
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1,200,000 of BJCORP (at RM 1.09)

emm that should be around RM 1,308,000.00 ... sweat.gif

big figure for me, maybe sap sap sui for Goldman tongue.gif
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1,200,000 of BJCORP (at RM 1.09)

emm that should be around RM 1,308,000.00 ... sweat.gif

big figure for me, maybe sap sap sui for Goldman tongue.gif
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less than USD 1/2 mil for them...sap sap sui la tongue.gif
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bmaybe sap sap sui for Goldman tongue.gif
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Similar to to buy 1 lot of xx stock like us only. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 02:27 PM)
Similar to to buy 1 lot of xx stock like us only.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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deng! sweat.gif

haha thanks for notifying!
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Apr 22 2008, 12:42 PM)
haha yeah. Talk in the SAPCRS thread is better. But this is stock market chit chat, so can talk about anything. Just that at least important things being said should be in SAPCRES thread so people won't miss it in this fast moving thread.
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Yes, you are right. The forum is getting very boring... ....Sapcres and nothing much.


It is no more my favorite counter .

going into hibernation.........

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Yes, you are right. The forum is getting very boring... ....Sapcres and nothing much.
It is no more my favorite counter .

going into hibernation.........
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I do think market will stay boring for months and going nowhere, up and down with range bound trading band.


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Can trade apple-c1, google-c1 or other hk-warrants..
bring more excitement to those high-risks taker..hehe..

Btw, HSI suddenly rebound to -13.99 from previous -200++. Maybe will close in green biggrin.gif
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I do think market will stay boring for months and going nowhere, up and down with range bound trading band.
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What I mean is I found a new girl friend " H." Lose interest in the old one Sapcres, no more attractive, and yet boring.
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What I mean is I found a new girl friend " H."  Lose interest in the old one Sapcres, no more attractive, and yet boring.
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ahh i know! your girl must be working in plantation sector laugh.gif
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ahh i know! your girl must be working in plantation sector laugh.gif
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She is working in China ( steel related ).

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She is working in China ( steel related ).
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I knew the girl name called Huann, am I right? flex.gif
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I knew the girl name called Huann, am I right?  flex.gif
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definitely liao! tongue.gif

anyway, yesterday i come across The Edge, the investment house put a "buy" call for HUANN, though.

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Go Huaan!! icon_rolleyes.gif
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I knew the girl name called Huann, am I right?  flex.gif
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market really so boring meh???
Go Huann! tongue.gif
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Who is Huann?? Forgive my ignorance.
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I knew the girl name called Huann, am I right?  flex.gif
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Yes, i buy 15000 shares bcos of her statistics. Expect to earn 30sen per share by end of the year.


Warning : Not meant for eating KFC on daily basis.

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Who is Huann?? Forgive my ignorance.
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should be HUAAN (2739)
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Yes, i buy 15000 shares bcos of her statistics. Expect to earn 30sen per share by end of the year.
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Haha, had a dirty thought for a moment!! Her stats... biggrin.gif
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if like that, i also wanna wake my punjabi boyfriend, aka Kulim-Singh to wake up liao

he has been sleeping all day long dry.gif
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should be HUAAN (2739)
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THANK YOU! cool2.gif
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Yes, i buy 15000 shares bcos of her statistics. Expect to earn 30sen per share by end of the year.
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Since you had made some research on it.

Curious to ask as I knew Huaan is making coke for steel processing fuel then how will rising coal price affect its cost?Coke need to made from coal, right?
Coal has been rising quite drastically recently, that's one of the reason TNB share price tumble as well.
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if like that, i also wanna wake my punjabi boyfriend, aka Kulim-Singh to wake up liao

he has been sleeping all day long dry.gif
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hahahaha good one pana, my teh almost come out from my nose hahaha rclxms.gif
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THANK YOU!  cool2.gif
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hey by the way, we have new member here biggrin.gif

your siggy says "future broker representative" huh, woot!
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Huaan confident that they can pass on the increasing operations cost to customers and still remain robust from increasing coke prices which are rising well..
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hahahaha good one pana, my teh almost come out from my nose hahaha  rclxms.gif
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lol, suddenly strike me tongue.gif
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hey by the way, we have new member here biggrin.gif

your siggy says "future broker representative" huh, woot!
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Thank you!

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Huaan confident that they can pass on the increasing operations cost to customers and still remain robust from increasing coke prices which are rising well..
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ok, thks for the information, may be will keep on eye on it as well.


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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 02:58 PM)
Since you had made some research on it.

Curious to ask as I knew Huaan is making coke for steel processing fuel then how will rising coal price affect its cost?Coke need to made from coal, right?
Coal has been rising quite drastically recently, that's one of the reason TNB share price tumble as well.
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At first , i am also cofused, thinking coke means coke cola.


It means to work well for Huann if steel price is firm, like crude oil palm. It is an Agent to reduce cost for steel production.
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I'm in it dy...fundamentals are very good.. rclxm9.gif
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Huaan,

A proxy into China's coke-steel industry. Sino Hua-An (Huaan) is the
largest independent and third largest coke producer in Shandong
commanding a market share o f 10%. Coke is an energy source as well as
a reducing agent for the manufacture of steel.
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High steel prices continue to support high coke prices and margins.
Locking in electricity and transport requirements on a long term basis
protect margins which at 20%-22% margin is better than its peers.

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Aggressive capacity expansion. We expect continuing growth in China's
steel sector to fuel coke demand. Huaan is constructing 2 more ovens by
May 2008 to boost its current capacity to 1.5m MT in 2H 2008 and to 1.8m
MT p.a by 2009.
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Future downstream expansion into a 49% -stake Shandong's largest
independent pig iron producer for RM500m provides stable off-take for its
coke but current high coke prices and demand makes it more profitable to
sell to third parties.
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Rising coke prices. We are assuming coke price of RMB1,760/MT for
Huaan vs. the curren t regional spot price of RMB2,00 0/MT. Our price
assumption is at a conservative level given coke prices at certain regions
of China have reached as high as RMB2,350/MT in April 2008.
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Compelling valuation at 3.0x FY09. Fair value at RM0.96 based on 6.5x
PER represents 20% discount to the steel industry's average 2008 PER of
8.0x - discount is warranted to account for the execution risk of its
overseas operation. Note however, Huaan is trading at a substantial 83%
discount to its Chinese peers. We expect with investors' increase familiarity
and proven execution, the discount factor will be narrowed. BUY with a
60% upside from the current RM0.655 level.
Earnings Estimates

FYE 31 Dec
2006 2007 2008E 2009E 2010E

Pretax profit (RMm)
115.0 115.0 151.9 198.5 246.0

Net profit (RMm) 115.0 127.5 168.8 209.1 184.5

Net profit growth (%)
-27.2 10.9 32.3 23.9 -11.8


EPS (sen) 10.2 11.4 15.0 18.6 16.4
EPS growth (%) -27.2 10.9 32.3 23.9 -11.8
DPS (sen) 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
NTA/share (RM) 0.24 0.54 0.69 0.88 1.04

PER (x) 6.4 5.8 4.4 3.5 4.0
Div. Yield (%) 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
EV/EBITDA (x) 6.9 3.9 2.9 2.1 1.7
ROE (%) 30.7 26.0 21.1 21.2 15.6
Net gearing (x) 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

NOT ASKING YOU TO BUY. FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSE.
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and i read that, HUAAN is the one-and-only China company that list in malaysia...
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 22 2008, 03:03 PM)
At first , i am also cofused, thinking coke means coke cola.
It means to work well for Huann if steel price is firm, like crude oil palm. It is an Agent to reduce cost for steel production.
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Coke is not an agent to reduce cost of steel, but an essential raw material to produce steel from iron ore.It is about extracting carbon content and segregating iron and other oxidised components. Sorry, forget liao, need to flip back my metarlugical notes for futher details.

If Huaan is able to pass the rising cost coal to the customers, then shouldn't much problem to register good earning result.


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and i read that, HUAAN is the one-and-only China company that list in malaysia...
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In fact, it is the first and only one foreign listing in KLSE.

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 03:10 PM)
and i read that, HUAAN is the one-and-only China company that list in malaysia...
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Yes, I think it is...took over from Antah's listing..
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The price of commodities will continue to skyrocket as the US dollar fundamental is still weak. But my question is how bout future demand and future output of China after the olympics?


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SKY 1809, you may want to take a peek at investlah.com (got to know this forum from alivecmh) tongue.gif

the forumer "tikus" says,

"Sino Hua-an is the largest producer of metallurgical coking coal in China, the price of metallurgical coking coal has risen for > than 240% above the last year level, the rise is even faster than the price of oil and gas. "

"My baby Huaan closes at 75 sen, already up 4.2% today, take 70 to 80 sen as guide, it is 50:50 situation, not advisable for risk adverse investors

However, if the price you take 85 sen as target, Huaan is still ok as a min of 3% dividend will be paid out"


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NOTE THAT CHINA CO IS ALWAYS TRADING AT A PE OF 60X IN CHINA, AT 14X IN HK, BUT AT 4.6X 08 IN BURSA. NET GEARING IS ZERO.


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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 03:14 PM)
SKY 1809, you may want to take a peek at investlah.com (got to know this forum from alivecmh) tongue.gif

the forumer "tikus" says,

"Sino Hua-an is the largest producer of metallurgical coking coal in China, the price of metallurgical coking coal has risen for > than 240% above the last year level, the rise is even faster than the price of oil and gas. "

"My baby Huaan closes at 75 sen, already up 4.2% today, take 70 to 80 sen as guide, it is 50:50 situation, not advisable for risk adverse investors

However, if the price you take 85 sen as target, Huaan is still ok as a min of 3% dividend will be paid out"

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i think he knows 1/3 of what is going on, so he can only write 1/3 of the whole.


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SAPCRES somebody bought 11K+ lots at 1 go rclxub.gif
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maybe seadrill or what..
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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 22 2008, 03:21 PM)
SAPCRES somebody bought 11K+ lots at 1 go  rclxub.gif
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whew.......! That's a lot of money at one shot ohmy.gif
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maybe seadrill or what..
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maybe. next resistance is 1.60 and it looks weak today, no more selling pressure now. move in at 1.52 out at 1.54.

Thinking shld I go in again hmm.gif
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wow 1.57 for SAPCRES now!
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back to Sapcres....later SKY scold leh...behave behave....

GO GO SAPCRES!
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haha.. seng kiat must be vomit blood liao.... 1.57 lo..
erm... finally a new baby call HUAAN emerged..
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 22 2008, 03:42 PM)
back to Sapcres....later SKY scold leh...behave behave....

GO GO SAPCRES!
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Sapcres is good but dangerous to chase all the way to the top. What goes up would come down one day.

I see people are buying for KFC at RM 1.50, 2.00, 2.50 ........

Just my 2sen ( china currency ) opinion.

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 22 2008, 03:46 PM)
Sapcres is good but dangerous to chase all the way to the top. What goes up would come down one day.

I see people are buying for KFC at RM 1.50, 2.00, 2.50 ........
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actually most of us r not 'chasing' to the top...n...only 'some' (pls raise ur hand) are playing for KFC.....most of us r actually long term holders...bought since last yr....

i'ved been holding since Sept 07 (prior sold twice and buy back)

of course...market is boring...just looking for 'something' to cheer.....hahaha...no offence ya...

HUAAN is good too...will consider when my bullets r ready! tongue.gif


Added on April 22, 2008, 3:52 pmbut i need to do my own analysis n research first smile.gif

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 22 2008, 03:46 PM)
Sapcres is good but dangerous to chase all the way to the top. What goes up would come down one day.

I see people are buying for KFC at RM 1.50, 2.00, 2.50 ........

Just my 2sen ( china currency ) opinion.
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Ya, strongly agree. That's y at first I did the analysis and set my cut off price at next resistance level 1.60.

I'm going to cut off when reaching my TP tongue.gif
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yeeeehaaaa!!!! kencana colors my life today .. tongue.gif .. i got 30 lots of it at 1.85 .. now 1.95 ..
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QUOTE(nofear0720 @ Apr 22 2008, 03:53 PM)
Ya, strongly agree. That's y at first I did the analysis and set my cut off price at next resistance level 1.60.

I'm going to cut off when reaching my TP tongue.gif
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so is SAPCRES your first share?

virgin shares bring luck tongue.gif

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i long time no eat "KFC" liao... *hunGrY*
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Today announcement of Pahang-Selangor water project. Probably Jaks has got a fair share.
I punted 5000 share @0.735 just now.
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 03:57 PM)
yeeeehaaaa!!!! kencana colors my life today .. tongue.gif .. i got 30 lots of it at 1.85 .. now 1.95 ..
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walao!
like cherroy say... tis guy reli lucky enuf rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 03:57 PM)
yeeeehaaaa!!!! kencana colors my life today .. tongue.gif .. i got 30 lots of it at 1.85 .. now 1.95 ..
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wow our O&G king is back tongue.gif

looks like you got some consolation from KENCANA ohh, nice one!
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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 22 2008, 03:43 PM)
haha.. seng kiat must be vomit blood liao.... 1.57 lo..
erm... finally a new baby call HUAAN emerged..
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nevermind d .. i got kencana that can cover my lost on sapcrest and also it can treats me a 2 large combo pizza .. tongue.gif ..
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 04:00 PM)
nevermind d .. i got kencana that can cover my lost on sapcrest and also it can treats me a 2 large combo pizza .. tongue.gif ..
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so really lucky you rclxms.gif
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Sapcres... surprising is still a good running horse like the old day.

Tool for inviting Punters back to Bursa ???

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rclxms.gif Sapcres recently has been injected new blood from Canada, that's the boosting agent
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 03:58 PM)
so is SAPCRES your first share?

virgin shares bring luck tongue.gif

@kinwawa

i long time no eat "KFC" liao... *hunGrY*
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Ya, it's my first ahre... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:04 PM)
Sapcres... surprising is still a good running horse like the old day.

Tool for inviting Punters back to Bursa ???
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yahoo...today indeed good luck for us.
Good news for YAHOO http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...akB4&refer=news
Tonight DJ may end in GREEN ..
Pick more for tomolo contra! biggrin.gif
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Next time, have to follow others 'virgin' share. icon_idea.gif

Virgin really got virgin luck one.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 04:09 PM)
Next time, have to follow others 'virgin' share.  icon_idea.gif

Virgin really got virgin luck one.
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indeed, it is proven. in fact, i used to be one, too tongue.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:10 PM)
indeed, it is proven. in fact, i used to be one, too tongue.gif
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I lose my 'virgin' long long time ago, so no more 'virgin' luck. Need to work hard. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:10 PM)
indeed, it is proven. in fact, i used to be one, too tongue.gif
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What shares are you buying ? I follow .

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What shares are you buying ? I follow .
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i lost my virginity to mr maybulk in a beautiful summer, back in year 2004. that time me ngam ngam 20 years old *shy*

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 01:12 AM)
I lose my 'virgin' long long time ago, so no more 'virgin' luck. Need to work hard.  laugh.gif
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HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!

GOOD ONE!! rclxms.gif
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I lose my 'virgin' long long time ago, so no more 'virgin' luck. Need to work hard.  laugh.gif
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No doubts I have 'virgin' luck but I also did my analysis before enter to buy the share.

But of course i'm not as pro as you guys, everyone is learning so am I. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:16 PM)
i lost my virginity to mr maybulk in a beautiful summer, back in year 2004. that time me ngam ngam 20 years old *shy*
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since is first time... wub.gif hurt?
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QUOTE(nofear0720 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:17 PM)
No doubts I have 'virgin' luck but I also did my analysis before enter to buy the share.

But of course i'm not as pro as you guys, everyone is learning so am I.  tongue.gif
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We all learn and sharing information together. Pros or no pros still the same. icon_rolleyes.gif


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HaHa......you guys are too funny..
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Jaks go, go,go,....sampai tomorro!
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sharesa, JAKS is moving gradually yo!

me hand gatal, i am queueing at 0.74, my remisier was so happy when i called her (i guess she must be missing me, ishh!)

just punt for fun, doesnt matter if the boat sail without me tongue.gif

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dude, is there any sign to buy sapcres again? .. i in love with ms sapcres la .. donno why ... tongue.gif ..
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 04:20 PM)
dude, is there any sign to buy sapcres again? .. i in love with ms sapcres la .. donno why ... tongue.gif ..
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because ms sapcres hurt your heart once, you want to take revenge.

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:20 PM)
sharesa, JAKS is moving gradually yo!

me hand gatal, i am queue at 0.74, my remisier was so happy when i called her (i guess she must be missing me, ishh!)

just punt for fun, doesnt matter if the boat sail without me tongue.gif
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my hand oso gatal, so I quickly grab when heard the news of that project. Maybe intraday or tomorrow.
I got a pleasant surprise just now from my Mayban dealer that online brokerage remain @ minimum $12 (0.42%)
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:16 PM)
i lost my virginity to mr maybulk in a beautiful summer, back in year 2004. that time me ngam ngam 20 years old *shy*
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LOL.
Mr Maybulk surely brought you a beautiful honeymoon then.

Maybulk is diam diam surging to 4.58 this morning. People chase after 30 cents dividend I suppose, going to be 'ex', tomorrow last day.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 04:22 PM)
LOL.
Mr Maybulk surely brought you a beautiful honeymoon then.

Maybulk is diam diam surging to 4.58 this morning. People chase after 30 cents dividend I suppose, going to be 'ex', tomorrow last day.
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yaya, MAYBULK ex-date fall on 24th (Thursday)

tomolo last day for the 30 sens dividend, lelong lelong!~

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wow this is hilarious!! SAPCRES gone up to 1.60 now!
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:26 PM)
wow this is hilarious!! SAPCRES gone up to 1.60 now!
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Time to profit take for those bought low one?
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wow this is hilarious!! SAPCRES gone up to 1.60 now!
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I'm queueing 1.60 to let go MS SAPCRES tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 04:22 PM)
LOL.
Mr Maybulk surely brought you a beautiful honeymoon then.

Maybulk is diam diam surging to 4.58 this morning. People chase after 30 cents dividend I suppose, going to be 'ex', tomorrow last day.
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been admiring Maybulk for so long..... wub.gif
but he always play hard to get one.....


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Time to profit take for those bought low one?
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dunno about others, but I want to hold on whistling.gif

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 22 2008, 04:29 PM)
been admiring Maybulk for so long..... wub.gif
but he always play hard to get one.....
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his mood swings according to the dyr baltric index mood tongue.gif

JAKS 0.76 liao!
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 22 2008, 04:29 PM)
been admiring Maybulk for so long..... wub.gif
but he always play hard to get one.....


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dunno about others, but I want to hold on whistling.gif
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Very nice play indeed..
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what is the next resistance for sapcres? ..
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:31 PM)
his mood swings according to the dyr baltric index mood tongue.gif

JAKS 0.76 liao!
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did u get @0.74?
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 22 2008, 04:34 PM)
did u get @0.74?
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hehe tarak

just join in the fun and being cheerleader here tongue.gif

0.765 woot! today probably can close in 0.78. tomolo easily can break 0.80!

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what is the other O&G or Plantation sector? ..
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but bz with work
now already blush.gif

mmmmmm

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what is the next resistance for sapcres? ..
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Should be around level of 1.68 to 1.70 which previously formed a double top (for 5 years chart).

To my surprise, based on the chart (short term), it was in down trend (before break 1.50) which begin from 2.50 and at 1.50 is for it to break the down trend.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 04:39 PM)
Should be around level of 1.68 to 1.70 which previously formed a double top (for 5 years chart).
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oo .. nevermind then .. i should forget my lover for a moment .. smile.gif ..
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QUOTE(feralee @ Apr 22 2008, 04:38 PM)
also wanna buy JAKS
but bz with work
now already  blush.gif

mmmmmm
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still wan to jump in? rolleyes.gif
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wow, i letgo sapcres at 1.59
got at 1.51 & 1.48 .. today's menu kfc combo including tapau back

now someone mention jaks?

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 04:39 PM)
Should be around level of 1.68 to 1.70 which previously formed a double top (for 5 years chart).

To my surprise, based on the chart (short term), it was in down trend (before break 1.50) which begin from 2.50 and at 1.50 is for it to break the down trend.
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So, 1.50 is the crucial point.
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QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Apr 22 2008, 04:44 PM)
wow, i letgo sapcres at 1.59
got at 1.51 & 1.48 .. today's menu kfc combo including tapau back

now someone mention jaks?
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Can upgrade to starbuck or coffee bean already mah.
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WTH! sapcres 1.63!!!

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:41 PM)
still wan to jump in?  rolleyes.gif
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c c first
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sapcres 1.63 ... mad or what ?

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all O&G up up

JAKS looks like taking a break at 0.760 - 0.765 (some ppl come down from the early bus, while some ppl jumping in)
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already out from Jaks within 45 minutes = $100 = burger king thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 22 2008, 04:51 PM)
already out from Jaks within 45 minutes = $100 = burger king thumbup.gif
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cantik! biggrin.gif
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what else i can enter ha? .. give opion la .. 5 min to go ..
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 04:53 PM)
what else i can enter ha? .. give opion la .. 5 min to go ..
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Careful guys, look for plays this week...next week is dunno one... whistling.gif
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i'd rather tembak on tomorrow morning, after 9.30am laugh.gif
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since today .. sapcres and kencana up so much .. is that possible tomorrow will be the red 1? .. just asking .. dont tembak me .. biggrin.gif ..
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i'd rather tembak on tomorrow morning, after 9.30am laugh.gif
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i'd rather tembak on tomorrow morning, after 9.30am laugh.gif
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ok .. i follow you .. let me know what u want to tembak yaa .. biggrin.gif .. smile.gif ..
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sut la .....sapcres-w i whack 40@0.85 hahahah
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 04:59 PM)
since today .. sapcres and kencana up so much .. is that possible tomorrow will be the red 1? .. just asking .. dont tembak me .. biggrin.gif ..
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WHAT??????????!!!!!!!!!!! SAPCRES RED???????!!!!!!!!! WHERE CAN?????!!!!!! It is the most powertful thing alive!!!!!!!!!!!!! ahahha kidding... icon_rolleyes.gif
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tomorrow shoot more....inject !!!!
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tomolo tembak JAKS! brows.gif
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serious pana i did....
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tomolo tembak JAKS!  brows.gif
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buy in at? 0.75/0.76?
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 04:59 PM)
since today .. sapcres and kencana up so much .. is that possible tomorrow will be the red 1? .. just asking .. dont tembak me .. biggrin.gif ..
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because they ended at a high note, the possiblility of opening green is high if global market is alright.
But maybe profit -taking later in the day which is healthy for preparation of another run-up.
Just my 1 sen tongue.gif

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tomolo tembak JAKS!  brows.gif
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at what price? .. contra or what? .. wink.gif wink.gif
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close at 0.865 yea !!! minor good news, more to come tomorrow !!! x finger lets keep the ball rolling !!!!
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close at 0.865 yea !!! minor good news, more to come tomorrow !!! x finger lets keep the ball rolling !!!!
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what are u talking about? which counter i meant? .
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tomolo tembak JAKS!  brows.gif
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you hold the bow, i shoot the arrow or the otherway around?

everything gone mad. if the sapcres goes a bit lower also i grab . ant the tailou predict borneoil. sure enough today rally.
and he predict dataprep already gone up. this guy damm accurate.. getting greedy .. brows.gif brows.gif

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serious pana i did....
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did what? sapu JAKS ka?

QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Apr 22 2008, 05:02 PM)
buy in at? 0.75/0.76?
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wow you really understand me.
but i doubt i could get it at the price right in the early morning (reason, as per what sharesa said above)
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I sapu 100 lot sapcres at 1.56 rclxms.gif after letting go 50 lot at 1.54 mad.gif . I immediatley grabbed another 100 when I see the 1.55 resistance broken. I did not set any TP right now, need to see the chart tonite. Hope can make some $$ for dinner at Victoria Station drool.gif


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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 22 2008, 05:16 PM)
I sapu 100 lot sapcres at 1.56  rclxms.gif  after letting go 50 lot at 1.54  mad.gif . I immediatley grabbed another 100 when I see the 1.55 resistance broken. I did not set any TP right now, need to see the chart tonite. Hope can make some $$ for dinner at Victoria Station  drool.gif
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1.70 can be a big hurdle to cross. There was double top formed during Dec 2003 & around April 2007.

But after May 2007 once the resistance (1.70) being broken, it went straight up to as high as 2.60 before forming a downwards trend until today.

From my point of view (not necessary correct), it needs to cross 1.70 to stage a upwards trend, otherwise it is not deemed a totally break through. Just my taught (don't flame me on this, if I am wrong, so many Sapcres supporters here) icon_rolleyes.gif

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hi ppl....wat happened to my sapcres...y u all so xcited until when i refresh my page almost 80 quote liao!

i have a meeting just now....wat a time to have a meeting.....now sapcres broke 1.60 liao w/o telling me.....hope tomolo will b a better day....but...dunno y....still has not got the 'urge' to sell wor....y ar y ar....Master cherroy....Sharesa...fast fast whack me a bit......

hmm...sharesa...u sell i sell..when u sell ar?? wat TP?? hehehehe
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 05:20 PM)
1.70 can be a big hurdle to cross. There was double top formed during Dec 2003 & around April 2007.

But after May 2007 once the resistance (1.70) being broken, it went straight up to as high as 2.60 before forming a downwards trend until today.
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Yeah, I see that too in the chart. Better take profit at abt 1.65-1.68. The consolidation period at 1.70 would be quite long. Might as well count the $$ now and wait for it to break the 1.70 ceiling. If Dow closes green, maybe will shoot up to 1.65 in opening tomorrow before profit taking comes in.
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 22 2008, 05:24 PM)
hi ppl....wat happened to my sapcres...y u all so xcited until when i refresh my page almost 80 quote liao!

i have a meeting just now....wat a time to have a meeting.....now sapcres broke 1.60 liao w/o telling me.....hope tomolo will b a better day....but...dunno y....still has not got the 'urge' to sell wor....y ar y ar....Master cherroy....Sharesa...fast fast whack me a bit......

hmm...sharesa...u sell i sell..when u sell ar?? wat TP?? hehehehe
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This horse if you had odeli invested long ago, then better stay put, it could go very crazy once a time like chance of a life time.

But no to hold it forever.

Just my 2sen opinion.

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what are u talking about? which counter i meant? .
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 05:05 PM)
did what? sapu JAKS ka?
wow you really understand me.
but i doubt i could get it at the price right in the early morning (reason, as per what sharesa said above)
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guys,

what are the good share for goreng tomorrow? .. any opinion?
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Yeah, I see that too in the chart. Better take profit at abt 1.65-1.68. The consolidation period at 1.70 would be quite long. Might as well count the $$ now and wait for it to break the 1.70 ceiling. If Dow closes green, maybe will shoot up to 1.65 in opening tomorrow before profit taking comes in.
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One of the way to adopt some strategy is using profit locking mechanism. You set a profit lock at certain price let say 1.55 ot whatever you would like to have (for those already profit at this level). So as long as it doesn't fall below it, you hold, once it break, you sell. In between you see how it progress, so if it goes to higher let say 1.70, then bring up your profit lock level, (let say 1.60).

Then in this way, you won't be scare profit running away while still can enjoy the show. But it is not a foolproof strategy, it can go wrong. I tend to use this kind of strategy from time to time, otherwise, make a lot of paper profit but once share fell afterwards, paper profit evaporate, and earn nothing finally. This is more applicable to 'goreng' stock as movement of price can be volatile in between.

So, it is just for some illustration, don't mean it is a correct way to do.
Judge you own.

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 22 2008, 05:29 PM)
This horse if you had odeli invested long ago, then better stay put, it could go very crazy once a time like chance of a life time.

But no to hold it forever.

Just my 2sen opinion.
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hahaha...dun worry...i won't hold too long...i'ved already targetted tat if it cant reach 1.70 then i'll sell anything above 1.6 to gain profit for ah yat abalone + 'soon hok' fish hehhehhe

thanks for ur advice

PS: i think due to my holdings currently mostly stable or for long term....i hardly get xcited over price increase liao....unlike last time.....like now PBBANK 11.1.....i bought at 10.....also feel like nothing although profit more than my SAPCRES!

but....i'm a bit worried bout my Genting la..hehehehe


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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 22 2008, 05:38 PM)
PS: i think due to my holdings currently mostly stable or for long term....i hardly get xcited over price increase liao....unlike last time.....like now PBBANK 11.1.....i bought at 10.....also feel like nothing although profit more than my SAPCRES!

but....i'm a bit worried bout my Genting la..hehehehe
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It is actually true to have those kind of feeling, that's why there are more excitement in 'goreng' stuff and people are more lure to it.

But a lot of time, it is those 'boring' one gain for you more than 'goreng' one.
But excitement wise is the other way round. You feel more happy if you have made Rm500 in goreng stock for short period than a good fundamental stock that you hold for long term that had gain RM5k.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 05:37 PM)
One of the way to adopt some strategy is using profit locking mechanism. You set a profit lock at certain price let say 1.55 ot whatever you would like to have (for those already profit at this level). So as long as it doesn't fall below it, you hold, once it break, you sell. In between you see how it progress, so if it goes to higher let say 1.70, then bring up your profit lock level, (let say 1.60).

Then in this way, you won't be scare profit running away while still can enjoy the show. But it is not a foolproof strategy, it can go wrong. I tend to use this kind of strategy from time to time, otherwise, make a lot of paper profit but once share fell afterwards, paper profit evaporate, and earn nothing finally. This is more applicable to 'goreng' stock as movement of price can be volatile in between.

So, it is just for some illustration, don't mean it is a correct way to do.
Judge you own.
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I am using the method now. I might lose on broker fees, but, I am still making staggered profit. Did the same for Kencana; went in at 1.85, come out 1.90. Went in again at 1.93 (can't get the full matching though, price moved too fast and my internet slowed down here in Melbourne).

Earlier made a mistake holding too long and loss a bit of $$. This way, I am happy making some money. Now I keep a very tight cut-loss regime; kena burn kow-kow a few weeks ago by waiting.
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 22 2008, 05:38 PM)
hahaha...dun worry...i won't hold too long...i'ved already targetted tat if it cant reach 1.70 then i'll sell anything above 1.6 to gain profit for ah yat  abalone + 'soon hok' fish hehhehhe

thanks for ur advice

PS: i think due to my holdings currently mostly stable or for long term....i hardly get xcited over price increase liao....unlike last time.....like now PBBANK 11.1.....i bought at 10.....also feel like nothing although profit more than my SAPCRES!

but....i'm a bit worried bout my Genting la..hehehehe


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ishh we all have starbucks, kfc, burger king only, even the most luxurious one also at victoria station, now you say you are getting ah yat abalone! ish ishh!
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ishh we all have starbucks, kfc, burger king only, even the most luxurious one also at victoria station, now you say you are getting ah yat abalone! ish ishh!
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Yalo, abalone term come back already.

A month ago, people only talk about having KFC, now become Ah Yat Abalone, what a contrast.
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Yalo, abalone term come back already.

A month ago, people only talk about having KFC, now become Ah Yat Abalone, what a contrast.
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All due to 1 stock : SAPCRES rclxm9.gif
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About Sapcres... the same old feeling

When it drops to the bottom, investors start to curse.

But when it moves to no body's teritory, then people start to fall in love.

There were many people refused to sell the shares at RM 9.00 in those days.
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Congratulation to all the sapcrest buyers. All gain a lot today.


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guys,

what do u think about sapcres? will it goes up to 1.70 for tomorrow? .. i might be in again at 1.61 or 1.62 .. and let it go at 1.67 or so .. is it a good practice?

and kencana, do u still is it worth it to in at 1.98 tomorrow? .. give your opinion please ..

dont tembak me like "if everybody here knows, sure all of us become millionaire" .. biggrin.gif .. i just ask your honest opinion on those 2 .. smile.gif .. tq ..

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 06:54 PM)
guys,

what do u think about sapcres? will it goes up to 1.70 for tomorrow? .. i might be in again at 1.61 or 1.62 .. and let it go at 1.67 or so .. is it a good practice?

and kencana, do u still is it worth it to in at 1.98 tomorrow? .. give your opinion please ..

dont tembak me like "if everybody here knows, sure all of us become millionaire" .. biggrin.gif .. i just ask your honest opinion on those 2 .. smile.gif .. tq ..
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If you can get in at 1.61, u shld be safe, but not sure will reach 1.70. The momentum is there, but nobody knows for sure until the market starts to move. I believe all the profit takers have been filtered out except for peanuts like me. I will wait until 1.65 to let go.

As for Kencana, it is already very high, gained 20 sen in a day. It might fall back to 1.95 tomorrow, my guess. If it can pass 2.00 tomorrow, it might hit 2.10. But I doubt will happen anytime soon due to the steep rise today; unless oil price shooting up again. You might wait and see. If there is a pullback and sustainable, then you can go in. Don't rush in tomorrow morning.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 05:20 PM)
1.70 can be a big hurdle to cross. There was double top formed during Dec 2003 & around April 2007.

But after May 2007 once the resistance (1.70) being broken, it went straight up to as high as 2.60 before forming a downwards trend until today.

From my point of view (not necessary correct), it needs to cross 1.70 to stage a upwards trend, otherwise it is not deemed a totally break through. Just my taught (don't flame me on this, if I am wrong, so many Sapcres supporters here)  icon_rolleyes.gif
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good of you to warn everybody beforehand, though the final decision will be in our own hands nod.gif
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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 22 2008, 07:10 PM)
If you can get in at 1.61, u shld be safe, but not sure will reach 1.70. The momentum is there, but nobody knows for sure until the market starts to move. I believe all the profit takers have been filtered out except for peanuts like me. I will wait until 1.65 to let go.

As for Kencana, it is already very high, gained 20 sen in a day. It might fall back to 1.95 tomorrow, my guess. If it can pass 2.00 tomorrow, it might hit 2.10. But I doubt will happen anytime soon due to the steep rise today; unless oil price shooting up again. You might wait and see. If there is a pullback and sustainable, then you can go in. Don't rush in tomorrow morning.
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oo .. thank you very much .. smile.gif .. btw, how about MRCB? dont u guys watch it? .. I watched it since 1.24 on last friday .. want to enter yesterday but think, it rise a lot d .. then hold .. today, want to in at 1.42 but was thing, could it break 1.45? .. then MRCB proof it again .. from u guys point of view, is it good to in MRCB at 1.50 tomorrow?
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 22 2008, 05:24 PM)
hi ppl....wat happened to my sapcres...y u all so xcited until when i refresh my page almost 80 quote liao!

i have a meeting just now....wat a time to have a meeting.....now sapcres broke 1.60 liao w/o telling me.....hope tomolo will b a better day....but...dunno y....still has not got the 'urge' to sell wor....y ar y ar....Master cherroy....Sharesa...fast fast whack me a bit......

hmm...sharesa...u sell i sell..when u sell ar?? wat TP?? hehehehe
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I oso need whacking leh.... laugh.gif
Please don't follow me when to sell-ar, Kinwawa,..... sweat.gif cause my decision may not be right.
I will still hold because I don't mind waiting for the 2 sens dividend,plus end of this year result may be better.
I target for 2 Vuitton bags tongue.gif ,
but in the event it drops like post-election times, I will buy more for trading or hold.


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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 05:37 PM)
One of the way to adopt some strategy is using profit locking mechanism. You set a profit lock at certain price let say 1.55 ot whatever you would like to have (for those already profit at this level). So as long as it doesn't fall below it, you hold, once it break, you sell. In between you see how it progress, so if it goes to higher let say 1.70, then bring up your profit lock level, (let say 1.60).

Then in this way, you won't be scare profit running away while still can enjoy the show. But it is not a foolproof strategy, it can go wrong. I tend to use this kind of strategy from time to time, otherwise, make a lot of paper profit but once share fell afterwards, paper profit evaporate, and earn nothing finally. This is more applicable to 'goreng' stock as movement of price can be volatile in between.

So, it is just for some illustration, don't mean it is a correct way to do.
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yeah, I remembered you told us this last year, I think this is one of the good strategies

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EVERGRN is forming an uptrend. RSI is just reaching 70% + bullish candlestick + the gap between the MACD line and signal line is increasing (MACD crossover signal line). It's very good buy signal there.

How do you think?

If it can breakthrough 1.50, it might be able to its second resistance level at 1.64.

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 22 2008, 07:44 PM)
I oso need whacking leh.... laugh.gif
Please don't follow me when to sell-ar, Kinwawa,..... sweat.gif  cause my decision may not be right.
I will still hold because I don't mind waiting for the 2 sens dividend,plus end of this year result may be better.
I target for 2 Vuitton bags tongue.gif ,
but in the event it drops like post-election times, I will buy more for trading or hold.


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yeah, I remembered you told us this last year, I think this is one of the good strategies
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When will it gives dividend? I'm not aware that Sapcres will be giving dividend oso drool.gif
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When will it gives dividend? I'm not aware that Sapcres will be giving dividend oso  drool.gif
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2 sen nia tongue.gif

ex-date not confirm yet.
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2 sen nia tongue.gif

ex-date not confirm yet.
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2 cents better than nothing LOL. Some more last time it did not pay a single cent dividend. So this can be a bonus rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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i read newspaper today...
those analysis said a buy call on properties, i.e: spsetia, mrcb...
this is so contrast to wat had been mentioned a month ago.. dunno how to follow rclxub.gif
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Hi all, it's already 4 month since I didn't active in this thread (my stocks drop a lot .. sweat.gif ) .. by today, the stock company shares that I've bought a month ago make an announcement that I didn't understand .. so, hope that someone can summarise it whether it's a good news or bad for me individually .. sweat.gif .. Thank you for your help .. notworthy.gif


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I bought 44 lot - Rm 0.42 each (on Disember 2007). Did I need to sell it or stay for a moment?

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When will it gives dividend? I'm not aware that Sapcres will be giving dividend oso  drool.gif
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If not mistaken, the payment for dividend last year was in July?
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Apr 22 2008, 09:11 PM)
Hi all, it's already 4 month since I didn't active in this thread (my stocks drop a lot ..  sweat.gif ) .. by today, the stock company shares that I've bought a month ago make an announcement that I didn't understand .. so, hope that someone can summarise it whether it's a good news or bad for me individually ..  sweat.gif .. Thank you for your help ..  notworthy.gif
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I bought 44 lot - Rm 0.42 each (on Disember 2007). Did I need to sell it or stay for a moment?
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Basically, it has to do with capital reduction aka your shareholding with 'shrink'

It cancels 84% of its Par value.
But it consolidate back with 500 of 0.16 Par value into 160 share of par value of RM0.50

So your 44 lots become 14.08 lots only for the DBhd. Should be right, will double check it.


Then the company will let you buy 1:2 right issued, mean it offered you 14.08/2 = 7.04 right issued (but it didn't say how much it will for the right issue, should be RM0.50, just my guess due to Par value, need to go through the entire proposal to confirm)

Then others blar blar is about acquisition of properties which company which company will issued more right issue and loan stock as the form of payment.

So for you, it affects you on the sharesholding and right issue.

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Apr 22 2008, 09:11 PM)
Hi all, it's already 4 month since I didn't active in this thread (my stocks drop a lot ..  sweat.gif ) .. by today, the stock company shares that I've bought a month ago make an announcement that I didn't understand .. so, hope that someone can summarise it whether it's a good news or bad for me individually ..  sweat.gif .. Thank you for your help ..  notworthy.gif
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I bought 44 lot - Rm 0.42 each (on Disember 2007). Did I need to sell it or stay for a moment?
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whoa....its been a long time, tongue.gif Sorry the above appear complicated & susah, maybe those who is on the same boat with you can give some idea?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 09:25 PM)
Basically, it has to do with capital reduction aka your shareholding with 'shrink'

It cancel 84% of its Par value means your 44 lots x 0.16 and become 7.04 lots only

Then the company will let you buy 1:2 right issued, mean it offered you 7.04/2 = 3.52 right issued (but it didn't say how much it will for the right issue, should be RM0.50, just my guess due to Par value, need to go through the entire proposal to confirm)


Then others blar blar is about acquisition of properties which company which company will issued more right issue and loan stock as the form of payment.

So for you, it affects you on the sharesholding and right issue.
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Wah .. tq Mr Cherroy .. so as a shareholder, to avoid any big loss .. I need to sell it A.S.A.P tomorrow right?


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whoa....its been a long time,  tongue.gif  Sorry the above appear complicated & susah, maybe those who is on the same boat with you can give some idea?
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Ya ya .. so shame to talk in here while I'm "rugi" a lot a past few month .. doh.gif

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Apr 22 2008, 09:28 PM)
Wah .. tq Mr Cherroy .. so as a shareholder, to avoid any big loss .. I need to sell it A.S.A.P tomorrow right?


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Ya ya .. so shame to talk in here while I'm "rugi" a lot a past few month ..  doh.gif
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I made a mistake on the calculation of the reduction side previously, so please check it back my edited post.

Whether you need to sell, is up to your choice.
That's why it is always advisable not to buy and hold on a losing money company with no sight of turn around into profitability.



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One of the way to adopt some strategy is using profit locking mechanism. You set a profit lock at certain price let say 1.55 ot whatever you would like to have (for those already profit at this level). So as long as it doesn't fall below it, you hold, once it break, you sell. In between you see how it progress, so if it goes to higher let say 1.70, then bring up your profit lock level, (let say 1.60).

Then in this way, you won't be scare profit running away while still can enjoy the show. But it is not a foolproof strategy, it can go wrong. I tend to use this kind of strategy from time to time, otherwise, make a lot of paper profit but once share fell afterwards, paper profit evaporate, and earn nothing finally. This is more applicable to 'goreng' stock as movement of price can be volatile in between.

So, it is just for some illustration, don't mean it is a correct way to do.
Judge you own.
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This method is very good thumbup.gif

Sounds like profit guarantee ( profit locking ), and let profit runs.

I want to use it on HUAAN.

Thanks a lot. Cherroy. notworthy.gif

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I made a mistake on the calculation of the reduction side previously, so please check it back my edited post.
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Tq for the explanation .. but need to admit I'm a little bit stupid to understand it (I'm no good in economy sweat.gif ) .. so, as conclusion, it's a bad news to me right?

Bought on Disember : Rm 0.42
By today price : Rm 0.275
Future price : Rm 0.16

I need to sell it ASAP right? look like a very dangerous situation for me .. rclxub.gif . Need your suggestion as veteran ..

Thank you Sir

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i read newspaper today...
those analysis said a buy call on properties, i.e: spsetia, mrcb...
this is so contrast to wat had been mentioned a month ago.. dunno how to follow  rclxub.gif
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where u read it? .. i am interested with MRCB actually but in between either want to in or not for tomorrow .. looks good at the moment but who knows it already reach it max ... what do u think guys? .. should i in? ..
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Apr 22 2008, 09:38 PM)
Tq for the explanation .. but need to admit I'm a little bit stupid to understand it (I'm no good in economy  sweat.gif ) .. so, as conclusion, it's a bad news to me right?

Bought on Disember : Rm 0.42
By today price :  Rm 0.275
Future price : Rm 0.16

I need to sell it ASAP right? look like a very dangerous situation for me ..  rclxub.gif . Need your suggestion as veteran ..

Thank you Sir
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Future price is not RM0.16.

If the final share price of the stock before it carries out the proposal is RM0.25, it will become around RM0.78 on the first day listing. But your 44 lots become 14.08 lots only.

But with the news of massive capital reduction come out, tomorrow its share price will under some pressure.

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 22 2008, 09:36 PM)
This method is very good thumbup.gif

Sounds like profit guarantee ( profit locking ), and let profit runs.

I want to use it on HUAAN.

Thanks a lot. Cherroy. notworthy.gif
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Huaan slowly creeping up, waiting for steel-related stocks to shine.....looks like time to accumulate biggrin.gif
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Huaan slowly creeping up, waiting for  steel-related stocks to shine.....looks like time to accumulate biggrin.gif
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Someone says Good fundamental share is always boring, but at least can sleep well.

Hoping for a brighter future !

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Still a question I keep wondering why Huaan want to list in Malaysia? considered that it is not a Malaysia based company nor having interest or business in Malaysia. Got some relationship with Antah? N.S. royal family owned.
Also, consider that it can list in China or HK which easily can chalk up higher price at IPO there. hmm.gif

No doubt based on its financial result, it looks good.

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Huaan,

The increasing demand and
constrained supply of steel are
expected to drive coke prices

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Existence of long-term contracts
Huaan has sealed long -term electrical supply contract and long-term
transport contract to ensure continuous and reliable power supply as well as
strategic linkage to national railway system. Both the contracts entitle
Huaan to enjoy 10% discount to price yielding cost savings from electricity
consumption, coal transportation cost and cost savings to customers for
coke transportation.

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Gross margin well-protected
Gross margin improved almost by 17% YoY and is well-protected between
20-22% which is higher compared to other coke players in China. The
positive uptrend pricing of metallurgical coke coupled with economies of
scale and savings in costs should help to guard the margin going forward.

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Ability to command premium pricing
Huaan is able to command premium pricing due to its higher quality coke
which is mainly preferred by steel manufacturers. Besides that, the Group is
also able to pass on additional cost to the steel makers who in turn, are
willing to pass full cost burden to price given the high demand for steel.

Outlook

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Steel market remains strong
World steel markets remain strong in general, led by buoyant activity in
Asian markets. A recent survey conducted by Steel Business Briefing
shows that 52% of steel traders have an optimistic view of steel market
conditions. Crude steel production in China grew at 7.0% YoY to 40.9m
tonnes in March 2008 implies that steel production is more or less solid in
China.

We believe the resilient China's economy, mammoth infrastructure projects,
booming car industry and increase in production of white goods to underpin
the rising demand for steel production which in turn, will spur strong coke
demand.

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Increase capacity to augment growth
Shandong is expected to produce 14.9m MT of coke in 2010 (+19.2% from
12.5m MT in 2005) while its coke demand is anticipated to reach around
15.1m MT in 2010 which is in line with the increase in iron and steel market.

The Group is adding 2 more ovens by May 2008 to boost current capacity
from 1.2m MT to 1.8m MT p.a. Initially increase current capacity by 300,000
MT to 1.5m MT in 2H2008, the ovens are expected to go on full stream to
1.8m MT starting from FY09 p.a.

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Coke prices to rise
Coke prices have increased about 52% since 2H 2007 and can still rise
further driven by the expanding demand for steel in China. The recent steel
export tax revision from 15% to 25% undertaken by the Chinese
government to curb export indicates the constraint of supply of steel in the
country.

We are assuming coke price of RMB1,760/mMT for Huaan vs. the current
regional spot price of RMB2,000/MT. Our price assumption is at a
conservative level given coke prices at certain regions of China have
reached as high as RMB2,350/MT in April 2008.


Est. free float: 37.6%
Major shareholders:


Tuanku Naquiyuddin 28.49%

Ibni Tuanku Ja 'afar:
Liu Guodong: 15.86%
Rise Business Inc: 9.09%
CIMVI Ltd: 8.91%





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Anynews?
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ORNASTEEL, MASTEEL, ANNJOO are the superstar share in steel industry.
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Sleeping time now, already 12am over here. See you guys tomrw
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 09:57 PM)
Still a question I keep wondering why Huaan want to list in Malaysia? considered that it is not a Malaysia based company nor having interest or business in Malaysia. Got some relationship with Antah? N.S. royal family owned.
Also, consider that it can list in China or HK which easily can chalk up higher price at IPO there.  hmm.gif

No doubt based on its financial result, it looks good.
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that question also ran across my mind.
What I understand before was, Antah was loss-making for a long period.
Then, when the restructuring was on-going, the royals were buying a lot that period. hmm.gif
Maybe here less competitors compared to being listed in China?

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Hi

Mind to ask one question over here? Do you guys noticed that something is brewing in here "Unisem" ?

Hope Master cherroy can give us some guidances.

Thank You.

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no, no news

ORNASTEEL, MASTEEL, ANNJOO are the superstar share in steel industry.
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but their trade vol is low ..
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masteel and anjoo I like
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I prefer ornasteel and kinsteel .


Thank You. smile.gif
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masteel good fundamentals...didn't run much yet...one for the future...
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guys,

no body eying on MRCB?? what u guys thinks about this? what is the next resistance level? ..
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i did ....plan to buy yesterday but i was abit afraid....anyway no more news about this counter
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goreng list for tomorrow.. brows.gif brows.gif

engtex , borneoil-wb, jaks flex.gif flex.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Apr 22 2008, 11:06 PM)
goreng list for tomorrow..  brows.gif  brows.gif

engtex , borneoil-wb, jaks  flex.gif  flex.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Jongkolkhoo also well-planned ahead tongue.gif
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Hi guys,


Sure goreng or not? This time i shall play a bit in order to master goreng skills.


Thank You.
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goreng list for tomorrow..  brows.gif  brows.gif

engtex , borneoil-wb, jaks  flex.gif  flex.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Goreng for me tomorrow by lunch time.
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Goreng for me tomorrow by lunch time.
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what a joke laugh.gif I was curious what you wanted to get, sekali tengok....!
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 22 2008, 10:08 PM)
Jongkolkhoo also well-planned ahead tongue.gif
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actually the list is longer and i got a feeling that i am not alone.. icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif

alivecmh where are you??? saw you in tailou.
i also wan ah yat ablone. today's killing not reach 0.5k

i also going to using stop profit or what ever you call it on my thplant (fluke buy at 3.36 many months ago) ... too bad only got 10 lots rclxms.gif ( thanks cherroy)
a very good strategy which i would not have known without this forum/moderator. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

but i would have to monitor the share every minute..
any way to still use this method and don't need to monitor the market every minute?
tomorrow got meeting with all branch manager. I cannot put laptop infront of all my branch manager. later my bigger boss also angry with me.
how?

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QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Apr 22 2008, 11:19 PM)
actually the list is longer and i got a feeling that i am not alone..  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif

alivecmh where are you??? saw you in tailou.
i also wan ah yat ablone. today's killing not reach 0.5k

i also going to using stop profit  or what ever you call it on my thplant (fluke buy at 3.36 many months ago) ... too bad only got 10 lots  rclxms.gif  ( thanks cherroy)
a very good strategy which i would not have known without this forum/moderator.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

but i would have to monitor the share every minute..
any way to still use this method and don't need to monitor the market every minute?
tomorrow got meeting with all branch manager. I cannot put laptop infront of all my branch manager. later my bigger boss also angry with me.
how?
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If you have to monitor shares on hourly , then actually you are working for Bursa.

Later part, you start to think Bursa pays you peanut to monitor their shares.

If you have good fundamental shares, it helps you to sleep better bcos it is boring. But the rewards would be better in long term.

Share investment is about patient, and more patient.

Just my 2 sen opinion.

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QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Apr 23 2008, 12:19 AM)
actually the list is longer and i got a feeling that i am not alone..  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif

alivecmh where are you??? saw you in tailou.
i also wan ah yat ablone. today's killing not reach 0.5k

i also going to using stop profit  or what ever you call it on my thplant (fluke buy at 3.36 many months ago) ... too bad only got 10 lots  rclxms.gif  ( thanks cherroy)
a very good strategy which i would not have known without this forum/moderator.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

but i would have to monitor the share every minute..
any way to still use this method and don't need to monitor the market every minute?
tomorrow got meeting with all branch manager. I cannot put laptop infront of all my branch manager. later my bigger boss also angry with me.
how?
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I think jongkolkhoo is going to buy huge numbers of unit of shares tommorrow morning based of his findings. It's up to us whether to join in or not. I got a feeling that the shares he mentioned would probably UP ! UP ! UP ! tommorrow. Let's wait and find it out the next day.

I wish you luck and all the best. As i got the same attitude also. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

Best of luck rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif biggrin.gif
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Hi All,

I think jongkolkhoo is going to buy huge numbers of unit of shares tommorrow morning based of his findings. It's up to us whether to join in or not. I got a feeling that the shares he mentioned would probably UP ! UP ! UP !  tommorrow.  Let's wait and find it out the next day.

I wish you luck and all the best. As i got the same attitude also.   icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

Best of luck    rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif       biggrin.gif
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Don't follow me. i play play only.. i am the small fish. this time gua buy small small only . holland don't blame me.
tomorrow looks more like down . today go mamak eat roti pisang no goreng stuff so plan to eat goreng tomorrow.
i never buy huge. i buy small small nia.


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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 22 2008, 10:30 PM)
If you have to monitor shares on hourly , then actually you are working for Bursa.

Later part, you start to think Bursa pays you peanut to monitor their shares.

If you have good fundamental shares, it helps you to sleep better bcos it is boring. But the rewards would be better in long term.

Share investment is about patient, and more patient.

Just my 2 sen opinion.
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thanks sky for your advice. it's more for the fun plus little profit .For rewards , i trust my business. (i doing legal tai yee long paying taxes. Got finance licence here). long time never hear from you. wink.gif wink.gif

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goreng list for tomorrow..  brows.gif  brows.gif

engtex , borneoil-wb, jaks  flex.gif  flex.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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so, US DJ down by 104 points ... still high chance in those counter u mentioned? .. how about MRCB or O&G? ..
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Investors are taking profit after last week's rally. Waiting for MSFT earnings and guidance.. Yahoo might have to accept MSFT's offer.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 09:51 PM)
Future price is not RM0.16.

If the final share price of the stock before it carries out the proposal is RM0.25, it will become around RM0.78 on the first day listing. But your 44 lots become 14.08 lots only.

But with the news of massive capital reduction come out, tomorrow its share price will under some pressure.
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So, should I assumed that it only convert from low price to high but still maintain the total money that I've invest before(14.08x0.78 equivalent to 44*0.25)? In theories, I'm not losing anything right? And I need a suggestion, if you face the same thing, what will you do? Stay or sell? or there's something else to do?

Tq Sir

P/s: Luckily this thread has so many expertise and veteran to help a beginner like me .. notworthy.gif .

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2008, 09:57 PM)
Still a question I keep wondering why Huaan want to list in Malaysia? considered that it is not a Malaysia based company nor having interest or business in Malaysia. Got some relationship with Antah? N.S. royal family owned.
Also, consider that it can list in China or HK which easily can chalk up higher price at IPO there.  hmm.gif

No doubt based on its financial result, it looks good.
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Huaan's plants start to operate in mid 2004, but listed ( took over fr Antah ) in Mrach 2007.

I believe it is not easy to list directly in HK or China if their operations are less than 3 years.

It is relatively unknown in Malaysia either ( not discovered by others yet ), and most people want to wait and see first,
like the Sapcres case.

Risks

Change in political, economic and regulatory in China could materially
and adversely affect Huaan's business operation. Notwithstanding, Huaan
will continue to focus on its core business and evaluate new business
opportunities that arise. The Group will also seek to minimize its business
risks through inter-alia careful contractual terms, adopting prudent credit
policy and regularly monitors its cash flow.

Reliance on the steel industry in China. The largest market for Huaan's
metallurgical coke is the steel industry in China. Growth in production of
metallurgical coke augurs well with the China's economy because of
potential strong steel demand which is used across various key industries.
Any decline in th e demand for steel may affect the demand for Huaan's
products. Nevertheless, China's economy is expected to grow resiliently at
8% annually.

Competition. Huaan is operating in a competitive coking industry and its
competitors include independent coke suppliers, coking plants set-up by
steel manufacturers and coking plants set-up by coal mining companies.
Huaan's strategy is to constantly meet and improve on fulfilling customers'
needs and requirements. Additionally, Huaan is operating in close proximity
to coal suppliers and major steel manufacturers, thus, yielding efficient
stock availability and distribution channels which is an added advantage.

Investment Case

Coke production is highly reflected by future dynamism of the steel
market. China's metallurgical coke industry is likely to correlate with the
steel industry which bodes well with Huaan's business operation. The
demand for steel in China is expe cted to continue to increase (Growth
drivers: Rapid urbanization projects, Summer Olympic 2008, Shanghai
Expo 2010 and the 3 Gorges Dam) and therefore, we expect Huaan's
production to be easily absorbed by the market.

The only listed company with operations entirely in China. Huaan's
business operation is insulated from any deceleration of the economy or
slowdown in the property and construction industry in Malaysia. On the
other hand of Huaan's target market, China offers bigger and more
promising market potential with stronger GDP growth momentum expected
at an average rate 8.5% from 2006 to 2010 and 8% from 2011 to 2015.

Earnings growth of 27% CAGR to be underpinned by a 50% increase
in production capacity from 1.2m MT to 1.8m MT p.a by FY09. Further
margin improvements can be expected as production efficiency improves
with economies of scale and savings in cost.




My type of investment method is different from yours. I do not look for heavy weight blue chips.

Instead I look for cheap light weight chips with low PEs, but track records might not be good compared to your blue chips.

Normally, if i buy , i prefer to buy 10,000 shares to make the real impact to justify my research. 1 or 2 lots would not be justified my time for it, I have a normal job to take care too.

Just for sharing. Not asking anyone to buy.

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Apr 23 2008, 08:36 AM)
So, should I assumed that it only convert from low price to high but still maintain the total money that I've invest before(14.08x0.78 equivalent to 44*0.25)? In theories, I'm not losing anything right? And I need a suggestion, if you face the same thing, what will you do? Stay or sell? or there's something else to do?

Tq Sir

P/s: Luckily this thread has so many expertise and veteran to help a beginner like me ..  notworthy.gif .
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from my point of view, you are losing because the price you bought was 0.40++ right and the current price is 0.25 ..

about the vol u have, it is count the current price. that mean, it is same between 14.08 lots at 0.78 and 44 lots at 0.25. The decision is in your hand! .. smile.gif ..
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Apr 23 2008, 08:36 AM)
So, should I assumed that it only convert from low price to high but still maintain the total money that I've invest before(14.08x0.78 equivalent to 44*0.25)? In theories, I'm not losing anything right? And I need a suggestion, if you face the same thing, what will you do? Stay or sell? or there's something else to do?

Tq Sir

P/s: Luckily this thread has so many expertise and veteran to help a beginner like me ..  notworthy.gif .
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This is assume that the price doesn't drop prior and after the capital reduction, but reality, in general market doesn't accept well with capital reduction restructuring. So price might fall.

Don't mean to suggest anything (buy or sell).

So judge your own.
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 23 2008, 08:51 AM)
from my point of view, you are losing because the price you bought was 0.40++ right and the current price is 0.25 ..

about the vol u have, it is count the current price. that mean, it is same between 14.08 lots at 0.78 and 44 lots at 0.25. The decision is in your hand! .. smile.gif ..
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 23 2008, 09:01 AM)
This is assume that the price doesn't drop prior and after the capital reduction, but reality, in general market doesn't accept well with capital reduction restructuring. So price might fall.

Don't mean to suggest anything (buy or sell).

So judge your own.
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Thanks .. couldn't sleep until this morning just to think what to do .. look like I need to sell it asap today, thank you all .. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Apr 23 2008, 08:36 AM)
So, should I assumed that it only convert from low price to high but still maintain the total money that I've invest before(14.08x0.78 equivalent to 44*0.25)? In theories, I'm not losing anything right? And I need a suggestion, if you face the same thing, what will you do? Stay or sell? or there's something else to do?

Tq Sir

P/s: Luckily this thread has so many expertise and veteran to help a beginner like me ..  notworthy.gif .
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Irzani,
last year, these 2 companies went through restructuring process, probably you may want to read up on them & see whether they were viable:
1) former was PSCI (now Boustead Heavy Industries)
2) former was Antah (now Huaan-hot topic now)

Upon listing, price went up very high, whether it justifies your buying price, I think you need to study from previous companies.
Either you sell them now or take up their offer for a bet.
Just my 2 sens tongue.gif
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so, anybody buy JAKS this morning?

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Goreng for me tomorrow by lunch time.
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luckily is not a real counter name... otherwise 90% folks here will be follow u sweat.gif
u know ur reputation la tongue.gif
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luckily is not a real counter name... otherwise 90% folks here will be follow u  sweat.gif
u know ur reputation la  tongue.gif
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yeah! at first glance...tot u ask us buy MAMEE mee goreng! hahahhaha
good boring div stock tongue.gif

Surprisingly...KLCI green now!
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 23 2008, 09:08 AM)
Irzani,
last year, these 2 companies went through restructuring process, probably you may want to read up on them & see whether they were viable:
1) former was PSCI (now Boustead Heavy Industries)
2) former was Antah (now Huaan-hot topic now)

Upon listing, price went up very high, whether it justifies your buying price, I think you need to study from previous companies.
Either you sell them now or take up their offer for a bet.
Just my 2 sens tongue.gif
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The words I bold, do you mean stay for a moment until the listing day and wait for it to hike? Just afraid if I waiting until they the proposal run, the prices by today (0.275) will drop until 0.16 .. or sell it today, and buy it again when it reach 0.16 like in the proposal?

Anyway, got a question, will the prices drop down until the minimusminimum as suggested (0.16?) rclxub.gif

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look at all the monitored (watch only, no buy) shares.. all up so much liao...
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 23 2008, 09:19 AM)
yeah! at first glance...tot u ask us buy MAMEE mee goreng! hahahhaha
good boring div stock tongue.gif

Surprisingly...KLCI green now!
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TM, the heavyweight, plays an important role, contributed to the green CI.

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TM, the heavyweight, plays an important role, contributed to the green CI.
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yalo..y TM suddenly surge one?? any news?
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So was it worth it for ppl buying TM yesterday? Did pre-merger price less than both combined today? I haven't done the maths..anyone know?
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it's up-ing now..
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yalo..y TM suddenly surge one?? any news?
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TM & TMI demerger.

TM reference price: RM 3.05
TMI reference price: RM 7.85

http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...85?OpenDocument
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TM & TMI demerger.

TM reference price: RM 3.05
TMI reference price: RM 7.85

http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...85?OpenDocument
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so both together less than RM11.00? so whoever bought yesterday at RM11 losing>?
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so both together less than RM11.00? so whoever bought yesterday at RM11 losing>?
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not sure how to calculate,
but based on TM reference price - 3.05
current price - 3.66 (surged 20% already)
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all you have to do is plus both the price now i think and you'll get what ppl have..so if it is more than TM price yesterday then they're making..
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so, anybody buy JAKS this morning?
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aiseh man, nobody mention about JAKS, looks like the JAKS-fever is gone laugh.gif

price is tug-of-war between 0.765 - 0.780, doesn't look convincing enough to break 0.80

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 23 2008, 09:39 AM)
aiseh man, nobody mention about JAKS, looks like the JAKS-fever is gone laugh.gif

price is tug-of-war between 0.765 - 0.780, doesn't look convincing enough to break 0.80
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doesn't look good sister..i'm into mrcb..
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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Apr 23 2008, 09:39 AM)
all you have to do is plus both the price now i think and you'll get what ppl have..so if it is more than TM price yesterday then they're making..
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yah kah? if that's the case:

TM current price: RM 3.62
TMI reference price: RM 7.85

total = RM 11.47 (yesterday closed at 10.90 right)
so, gaining?


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btw...sapcres green liao! yay yay.....
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 23 2008, 09:42 AM)
yah kah? if that's the case:

TM current price: RM 3.62
TMI reference price: RM 7.85

total = RM 11.47 (yesterday closed at 10.90 right)
so, gaining?
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ya i think this is the way...good play for ppl bought yesterday
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i Q for sapcres at 1.59 .. try my luck again with old love .. tongue.gif ..

and .. i want to refer back to my x-wife, kencana .. i proposed 2.00 .. still no answer from her .. maybe she already in loves with some1 else .. who knows .. sad.gif ..

naz, any news on MRCB? i watch this counter since a few days ago ..
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HUAAN also making a move......will monitor it more .....c how the price movement pattern first before indulging....
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GOGOGO SAPCRES-W !!! come to papa's TP !!!!
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i Q for sapcres at 1.59 .. try my luck again with old love .. tongue.gif ..

and .. i want to refer back to my x-wife, kencana .. i proposed 2.00 .. still no answer from her .. maybe she already in loves with some1 else .. who knows .. sad.gif ..

naz, any news on MRCB? i watch this counter since a few days ago ..
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Seng, the inside ppl goin to push high bcoz they've been accumulating for last 4 weeks..
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tips from my broker BJCORP !!!! goldman is investing in ???
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tips from my broker BJCORP !!!! goldman is investing in ???
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Yes
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Seng, the inside ppl goin to push high bcoz they've been accumulating for last 4 weeks..
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tips from my broker BJCORP !!!! goldman is investing in ???
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TP?
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tips from my broker BJCORP !!!! goldman is investing in ???
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me yesterdat posted jor

he acquired 12,000,00 BJCORP shares

big amount, but kacang putih for them only (yesterday price was around RM 1.09 -1.10 when i saw it)
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r u sure?? remember not to buy blindly ar.......make ur own study first.....
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Can see in the charts that there was accumulation..
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Aiyoh rclxub.gif Massive profit taking this morning. Funny, the KLSE still can withstand it, good sign indeed rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 23 2008, 09:51 AM)
me yesterdat posted jor

he acquired 12,000,00 BJCORP shares

big amount, but kacang putih for them only (yesterday price was around RM 1.09 -1.10 when i saw it)
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so pana .. u Q for any stock for goreng2 today? ..
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Can see in the charts that there was accumulation..
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i mean r u sure they r going to push high???? sorry.....just to be safe for ppl who r interested...mean no harm....
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i mean r u sure they r going to push high???? sorry.....just to be safe for ppl who r interested...mean no harm....
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Market up so much last two days, but Genting and Resorts underperforming.
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Hi smile.gif im Q-ing for resorts now at 3.32..hope can get it!!! Verbatim u up for it?

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Hi smile.gif im Q-ing for resorts now at 3.32..hope can get it!!! Verbatim u up for it?
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I'd rather go in at 3.30... already queing 3000 shares at 3.30. smile.gif
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so pana .. u Q for any stock for goreng2 today? ..
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certain sector rally only. O&G rally, water shares rally.

my KULIM doesnt move much either.
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water play this week only IMO..
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today sore throat
therefore no goreng stuff for me
you guys go ahead biggrin.gif
certain sector rally only. O&G rally, water shares rally.

my KULIM doesnt move much either.
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water play this week only IMO..
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yesterday O&G rallied (SAPCRES, KENCANA, RAMUNIA, etc)

today main attention fall on TM (while next monday for TMI)
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wah anyone bought TM?

damnit man...was contemplating hard yesterday to buy. i thought no potential lah TM & TMI. how to compete with all the other players. GLC my foot.

see see today up >50sen. sigh...could have made a KFC bucket. :sob:

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wah anyone bought TM?

damnit man...was contemplating hard yesterday to buy. i thought no potential lah TM & TMI. how to compete with all the other players. GLC my foot.

see see today up >50sen. sigh...could have made a KFC bucket. :sob:

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u guys love kfc so much ha .. kesian mcD .. no1 mention .. tongue.gif .. ayam goreng mcD is much better than KFC .. tongue.gif ..
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 23 2008, 10:15 AM)
u guys love kfc so much ha .. kesian mcD .. no1 mention .. tongue.gif .. ayam goreng mcD is much better than KFC .. tongue.gif ..
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Added on April 23, 2008, 10:17 amPana, Jaks looking better now but out of my buy in at 0.75

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 23 2008, 10:15 AM)
u guys love kfc so much ha .. kesian mcD .. no1 mention .. tongue.gif .. ayam goreng mcD is much better than KFC .. tongue.gif ..
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McD got FOC one ma...so no need wish for it heheehhe......
btw...today TM go up ...but can it sustain???? tat's another Q for......

for KFC-playing then can la...today can eat KFC liao!!! hahaahha

PS: Again i will avoid goreng food.....bad for health! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 23 2008, 10:20 AM)
McD got FOC one ma...so no need wish for it heheehhe......
btw...today TM go up ...but can it sustain???? tat's another Q for......

for KFC-playing then can la...today can eat KFC liao!!! hahaahha

PS: Again i will avoid goreng food.....bad for health! tongue.gif
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Yes avoid now..
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wah anyone bought TM?

damnit man...was contemplating hard yesterday to buy. i thought no potential lah TM & TMI. how to compete with all the other players. GLC my foot.

see see today up >50sen. sigh...could have made a KFC bucket. :sob:

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Malaysians love KFC more than US ppl...in US it was reversed..


Added on April 23, 2008, 10:17 amPana, Jaks looking better now but out of my buy in at 0.75
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JAKS ahh, not looking at it anymore.

best time to get in was yesterday, when the oven is hot!
now oven cooler jor, might be trapped if you plan to play contra.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 23 2008, 10:24 AM)
KLSE set a limit up of 300% for TM (geng!)
while limit down 30%
JAKS ahh, not looking at it anymore.

best time to get in was yesterday, when the oven is hot!
now oven cooler jor, might be trapped if you plan to play contra.
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Bornoil-WB really shoot up, sigh... didn;t buy it.
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Quite surprised TM surged so much after de-merger too, I was uner the impression the better bet would be TMI and TM would more or less stay the same.
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Quite surprised TM surged so much after de-merger too, I was uner the impression the better bet would be TMI and TM would more or less stay the same.
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This is what most ppl thought..even cherroy
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I'd rather go in at 3.30... already queing 3000 shares at 3.30. smile.gif
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Good luck to u smile.gif its pretty tough to get at 3.30 but if u can get it at that price..its a very good buy

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i was thinking to put TM in my watch list.

wanna buy & hold it at the price of 3.10 - 3.20 rolleyes.gif
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bornoil, up up up, gogogo.............
anyone got bornoil? starting to climb up.
sapcres has went too far, can reach it.

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 23 2008, 10:34 AM)
i was thinking to put TM in my watch list.

wanna buy & hold it at the price of 3.10 - 3.20 rolleyes.gif
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pana, TM already surge so high..u still want to buy and hold it?

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pana, TM already surge so high..u still want to buy and hold it?
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This is what most ppl thought..even cherroy
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Yup, may be someone intentionally push it up so that they can gain some from it, especailly those substantial shareholders. You know, I know one who lah, just guessing, no concrete evidence icon_idea.gif

Easy to push at first day listing mah, as people will have a 'wrong' perception (not wrong, I struggle to find a word to describe), due to previosuly TM was a Rm11.00, now Rm3.05 so aritificailly look cheap.

Someone is putting a buy Q of 60,000 to 'support' it.
Now become 70K vs few hundreds lot of seller. Need to put so much meh, if really want to buy?
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Yup, may be someone intentionally push it up so that they can gain some from it, especailly those substantial shareholders. You know, I know one who lah, just guessing, no concrete evidence icon_idea.gif

Easy to push at first day listing mah, as people will have a 'wrong' perception (not wrong, I struggle to find a word to describe), due to previosuly TM was a Rm11.00, now Rm3.05 so aritificailly look cheap.

Someone is putting a buy Q of 60,000 to 'support' it.
Now become 70K vs few hundreds lot of seller. Need to put so much meh, if really want to buy?
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FTEC B-Q is over 100K wo.... wat to say?
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FTEC B-Q is over 100K wo.... wat to say?
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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 23 2008, 11:01 AM)
FTEC B-Q is over 100K wo.... wat to say?
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i hold 260 of this share and i am bingung .. a lot of B-Q everyday at 0.075 and a lot of S-Q at 0.08 .. never habis ..
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today forum quite huh......
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no pana no havoc la ..tongue.gif ..
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Pana...PBBANK cont to surge...11.2 now....more abalone pls...hehehe
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despite Dow closing red...regionally all r green now...it this an indicative that ppl r no more tat worried bout the subprime issues...n tat...they feel...it has not much (or minor) effects anymore???
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see my net , satu share pun tara dapat. queue for 10 different fish in the morning. all shoot up . today might be a trap. maybe tomorrow would be a good day.
scomi go up like rocket... within a few days..
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 23 2008, 11:39 AM)
despite Dow closing red...regionally all r green now...it this an indicative that ppl r no more tat worried bout the subprime issues...n tat...they feel...it has not much (or minor) effects anymore???
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Last week Dow went up several hundred points. So, any small drops people really doesnt bother is a norm during profit taking. It might go up again today and the futures oredi shows green
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jongkolkhoo, didn;t u buy bornoil-WB ? IF you did, u should have earn some.
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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 23 2008, 11:43 AM)
Last week Dow went up several hundred points. So, any small drops people really doesnt bother is a norm during profit taking. It might go up again today and the futures oredi shows green
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but previously when Dow closes red....markets esp HSI n STI sure follow one...KLCI already de-tached.....
but now....all like dun care bout DOW liao hahahhaa
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how the sapcrese?
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ok la. since so boring, net also cannot catch anything

push engtex-wa abit and see ....

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Pana...KULIM moving liao
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how the sapcrese?
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the hype is over, all quiet edy. read from newspaper (i believe cherroy and dsugumus did mention, too), in order for SAPCRES to be on the uptrend, it has to be above 1.70

current stage is not yet on the bullish stage.
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jongkolkhoo, didn;t u buy bornoil-WB ? IF you did, u should have earn some.
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queue 1 cent lower tak dapat anything ..
i push engtex a bit and see .. (itchy hand) atleast i got a reason to see the screen. sweat.gif
buy ticket to see football but no betting where got fun?

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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 23 2008, 11:50 AM)
Pana...KULIM moving liao
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hehe i saw that this morning, "ok ok" only la, not those +0.500 surge tongue.gif

today sore throat ah (that's why i say, no goreng goreng for me today), thus hands also lazy to type jor, hehe
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 23 2008, 11:55 AM)
hehe i saw that this morning, "ok ok" only la, not those +0.500 surge tongue.gif

today sore throat ah (that's why i say, no goreng goreng for me today), thus hands also lazy to type jor, hehe
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drink more water lo....i'm sneezing too now.......kelian kelian.....so cold in office
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 23 2008, 11:31 AM)
no pana no havoc la ..tongue.gif ..
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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Apr 23 2008, 11:33 AM)
No Pana no life  cry.gif

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I think pana's price will definitely move very high everyday. There is so much demand on pana day in day out. Mind to share some background on this 'counter'? tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif Is pana must be one 'hot property' stock? tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

Later pana or any other moderator come warning me or ban me. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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got, PANAMY (3719)

boring dividend counter, but can assure you sleep sweet every night biggrin.gif

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kinwawa, you take care too biggrin.gif
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sapcres is making a move......monitor monitor....
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get so frustrated. wasted 4 hours yesterday to plan out my shopping list until wife also complain and ask me to marry the computer and now get nothing this morning..
meeting also not so boring..

and who is the joker who go and sell me some odd lot in engtex wa ?
rugi my water money ... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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Wow, sapcres and kencana moving again. need to move my TP goal post again whistling.gif
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sapcres is moving!! .. i Q at 1.59 this morning and will not get it .. nevermind la .. will Q again if it reaches 1.70 above .. biggrin.gif ..

as cherroy said, next resistance for sapcres is 1.70 .. if it does breaks it, then it would be bullish . smile.gif ..
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haha your wife funny rclxs0.gif j/k dun angry tongue.gif
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same goes to JAKS leh! 0.795 now, woot!
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Wow, sapcres and kencana moving again. need to move my TP goal post again  whistling.gif
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wowww .. i missed the boat at 2.01 .. i Q at 2.00 .. it is moving fast the the moment .. nevermind then ..
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 23 2008, 12:07 PM)
same goes to JAKS leh! 0.795 now, woot!
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Looked weak but just playing weak...kill off all the weak contra players dy and now it's moving
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 23 2008, 12:01 PM)
got, PANAMY (3719)

boring dividend counter, but can assure you sleep sweet every night biggrin.gif

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kinwawa, you take care too biggrin.gif
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So are you suggesting that PANAMY is a boring counter but panasonic88 is a 'hot property' counter? tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 23 2008, 12:04 PM)
sapcres is moving!! .. i Q at 1.59 this morning and will not get it .. nevermind la .. will Q again if it reaches 1.70 above .. biggrin.gif ..

as cherroy said, next resistance for sapcres is 1.70 .. if it does breaks it, then it would be bullish . smile.gif ..
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Why so many ppl buying SAPCRES? Are they winning some big contract again? Is this surge a short term (goreng) thing?

QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 23 2008, 12:07 PM)
same goes to JAKS leh! 0.795 now, woot!
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I thought JAKS is somewhat related to the previous Selangor administration and we should stay away from it? What is happening with it now?
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 23 2008, 11:04 AM)
sapcres is moving!! .. i Q at 1.59 this morning and will not get it .. nevermind la .. will Q again if it reaches 1.70 above .. biggrin.gif ..

as cherroy said, next resistance for sapcres is 1.70 .. if it does breaks it, then it would be bullish . smile.gif ..
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i q 1.58 this morning .. ok ok we hantam this time double hard if this guy reach 1.7
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QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Apr 23 2008, 12:12 PM)
i q 1.58 this morning .. ok ok  we hantam this time double hard if this guy reach 1.7
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must break 1.70 convincingly first

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sapcres cannot see wht is the resistance at 1.70 hmm.gif

Ooops, not so strong indeed, for now rclxms.gif

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yo, JAKS 0.80, geng lah!

i didnt buy though tongue.gif
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Heh, hope you guys make money today.

Sept 08 KLSE futures contract up...wooohooo. smile.gif


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sapcres 1.68....bit more to 1.7! come on come on!!!!
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KHSB almsot very geng. Cheap stock but move so much.. up 0.035 at the moment.

Within 1 week rose from 0.47 to now 0.595
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alivecmh, manage to get any stock this morning?

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Go go go go !
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what did you buy? (asking on behalf of everyoneeeeeeee)
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Pana get too excited dy haha drool.gif
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Din buy any.. Rushing to do POC. do not have time to monitor the market so often... sigh.. 1 month later only i can start buying again.
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I bought one contract Sept 08 KLSE future at 1261.5. We'll see how it does later on when DJIA futures open.

Hope all of you make good money today!

Happy trading, and remember STOP LOSS! smile.gif



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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Apr 23 2008, 12:30 PM)
Din buy any.. Rushing to do POC. do not have time to monitor the market so often... sigh.. 1 month later only i can start buying again.
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mate, we used to talk in msn that April would be a ugly month for stock market
looks like we both are wrong sweat.gif

see, market is rebounding "bang bang sheng"
and not so much negative news from U.S either (or i might be wrong)

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I will quickly run after this week hehehe thumbup.gif
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Oil at USD 120 per barrel, and EUROs is at 1.60. Commodities are hot right now. LOOK at rice!
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 23 2008, 12:33 PM)
mate, we used to talk in msn that April would be a ugly month for stock market
looks like we both are wrong sweat.gif

see, market is rebounding "bang bang sheng"
and not so much negative news from U.S either (or i might be wrong)
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Remember Penang's God says H2 should be good, so people start to buy now.

Sub prime is not so scary now aday.


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what an exiciting & unpredictable morning session!

quiet in the morning, then suddenly goreng goreng start again right before the 1st session ends biggrin.gif


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Remember Penang's God says H2 should be good, so people start to buy now.

Sub prime is not so scary now aday.
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Penang's God? H2? what are those? *scratch head*


QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Apr 23 2008, 12:38 PM)
The worst is not over yet in the US.....smile.gif
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i believe so. better be safe than sorry.
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Just like when we reached 1,500 points on KLCI..nothing can go wrong mentality will set in...I love it! rclxms.gif
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Market probably going up the last few days maybe because the loud mouth Mahathir is not in the country to send jitters into the market tongue.gif

Once he comes back and opens his mouth, market will go sideways again vmad.gif

Sapcres is still going up. Sharesa will eventually get her Louis Vuitton bag after all rclxms.gif
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The only O&G counter that has not moved yet is B.I.G.

Wonder why hmm.gif Maybe can sapu a bit to speculate. Even Bornoil can shoot up drool.gif

Mahsing warrants are in the money now at 93 sen, with instant profit of 5 sen drool.gif Exercise price is 0.50 sen with share price at 1.48

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 23 2008, 12:01 PM)
got, PANAMY (3719)

boring dividend counter, but can assure you sleep sweet every night biggrin.gif

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The only O&G counter that has not moved yet is B.I.G.

Wonder why  hmm.gif Maybe can sapu a bit to speculate. Even Bornoil can shoot up  drool.gif

Mahsing warrants are in the money now at 93 sen, with instant profit of 5 sen  drool.gif  Exercise price is 0.50 sen with share price at 1.48
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May be just like its name implied, too BIG to move.
But once it moves, moves big one. laugh.gif

Nonsense talk from me.

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Apr 23 2008, 12:31 PM)
I bought one contract Sept 08 KLSE future at 1261.5. We'll see how it does later on when DJIA futures open.

Hope all of you make good money today!

Happy trading, and remember STOP LOSS! smile.gif
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Good for you, make nearly 2K liao.

Virgin trade as well?

anyone else (virgin) laugh.gif , must follow liao like this

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cherroy in a joking mood today laugh.gif laugh.gif

/me hunting for virgin players now, so ong! drool.gif

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