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 Stock Market V12, Stock Market talk, some are investors, some are gamblers..

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post Apr 21 2008, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 21 2008, 01:30 PM)
erm... after some mathematic works..
it seems i have put in too much portion of my money into stock market...
roughly 30% now... will it be too high in terms of financial allocation??
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It depends on individual risk appetide. There is no such thing of standard for it.
I don't 100% believe in most financial advice given one like if you are in mid-20, you can alloate up to 70% into stock while if you are 50, then it should be 20%.

Hey, if I am 20 years old, but I am a conservative one, then putting 20% into stocks still fine,as it is my risk appetide. While even I am 50, I put 50% into stocks beause I am a risk taker and aware of the risk and consequences of it, that's fine too. Most importantly, you feel comfortable with it and sleep well every night. I had seen plenty of people have sleepless night even buying shares only, then it is not a right way to do.

In the end of the day, as long as you know what you are doing and perfectly understand the risk and consequences when/if it goes wrong, then it is your money, you decide what to do with it.

But remember to distinguish out the stocks. When I mentioned about stock I mean some good fundamental stock, not purely 'goreng' stock.

Don't try to play long term with 'goreng' stock, most of the time won't work well.

Just my 2 cents.
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post Apr 21 2008, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 21 2008, 03:28 PM)
7000 x 100 x 1.50 = RM 1,064,000.. r u kidding me?? shocking.gif
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7,000 lots is small small nia by market standard.

Look at the Q at Sime 20,000 lots
20,000 x 100 x Rm10.00 = Rm20 millions.

Still somebody can take it all. Total trade for Sime currently is 166,000 lots.
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post Apr 21 2008, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 21 2008, 03:49 PM)
today SPsetia, KLCC property are leading the gain of all the property stocks.
Analysts has been saying that property stocks were bashed bad ly recently, blah...blah...blah....so up-lah, blah-blah.
Today's news.
(Oh.... if only I'm the writer & buy one day beforehand, grrr.....) vmad.gif
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Told you, mood swing very fast one.

One day analysts all said bad about finance stock in US, then after Citigroup reported 15 billions loss (more than most expected), then said this is the worst, and will become better. Haha, don't it just reported worst than you all estimated, now with sweet dream last night, mood change liao.

Just prior before locally, all said properties sector and company will have hard time ahead especailly in opposition contolled state. Now said have good future just after 1 week?
Sometimes, nothing to say then just put up a lame reason to support the claim. You can't leave the article space blank mah especially in newspaper one, very unprofessional sometimes. Even price qouting or dividend qoute also get it wrong.

Don't mean to criticise the analysts comments, but it is the reality and sentiment can change quite fast one.

But over the long term, sentiment is not the one determine how far a stock can go. Fundamental part is the one will lead a stock to higher or lower.

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post Apr 21 2008, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 21 2008, 04:06 PM)
lucky dude  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
haha.. kidding kidding... rclxms.gif
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As said, newbie always got newbie luck or virgin luck. icon_rolleyes.gif

Enjoy the KFC then.
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post Apr 21 2008, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 21 2008, 04:30 PM)
nth positive...  simply bcoz my sixth sense ask me to queue.. might be to holland if can get tongue.gif
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Airasia flies you to Holland then.
Joking only.

Airasia profit and growth wise has big potential. But with the non-stop rising oil price, it will put lot of pressure on all airliners. Fuel cost is the major cost of airliners which is uncontrollable by them.
That's why you see airliners are being left out in recent rally.

Also got thinking on it, play small small to earn few cents to ten, should be no problem. Just my taught.

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 21 2008, 04:36 PM)
what u meant by after this? will suffer? .. tongue.gif .
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After this, become greedy liao, and bet even bigger and playing in 'crocodile farm'. Sorry sorry no offence. tongue.gif


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post Apr 21 2008, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 04:47 PM)
cherroy~~!!

EXMOBIL-C1, an jua? ai mai? tongue.gif
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No, concern about its liquidity.
Need to at least take 1000 lots and above, only got 'meat' and get away with the min commission.
I more concentrate on Genting and Atrium currently and thinking of selling Shell. icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(sharesa @ Apr 21 2008, 04:48 PM)
aiyo, Cherroy, don't snarl rolleyes.gif  at him, tongue.gif or just a warning to newbies?

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Reminder only lah. icon_rolleyes.gif smile.gif
Saw too many examples. So don't want people to repeat it.

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 04:54 PM)
you know, saja gatal tongue.gif
emm emm, ATRIUM is not my cuppa of tea

GENTING yah, if it comes to 6.00 or 6.10, count me in then.
and set a short TP to sell at 6.50 - 6.70  laugh.gif
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Then I help you to scratch the 'gatal'. rclxms.gif

OT OT.

Reit is for old folks one. laugh.gif

Genting still in down trend even though market (KLCI) recover a bit.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 21 2008, 05:00 PM)
eeeee cherroy notti tongue.gif

yah actually i am not very keen on both ATRIUM & GENTING.

reasons, as per what you mentioned, one is for old folks as it barely move and the later one is currently in down trend.
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For Genting, only when the Singapore casino is fully running, only will see whether it is a good buy or not. Until now, it is under lot of scrutinise due to massive expansion programme which concern some.

For me, just may be take 1 or 2 for fun only, not my exactly my cup of tea either, won't put too much on it. Like you said, gatal mah. tongue.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 21 2008, 05:19 PM)
1 or 2 means???
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I mean 1 biji (x1000), not 1 lot (x100), 1 lot with min commissin will kill all the fun liao. icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Apr 21 2008, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Apr 21 2008, 10:42 PM)
Apple will announce 2nd quarter result on Wednesday night, analyst forecast to be 1.07, do u think apple-c1 will surge if actual record beat the forecast, just like what happened to google-c1 ?
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Even if Apple share surges, does it enough to make the Apple-C1 moves? This is the key question.

If a CW is massively 'out of money', unlesss the mothershare moves to a price that CW has potentially 'in money' situation, then the CW might not respond or just have little response.

Look at Google-C1, even though Google mothershare surge 20% from 460 to 540, Google-C1 still way 'out of money' of its exercise price 680. So Google-C1 situation has not much change, still value 0.

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post Apr 22 2008, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 10:27 AM)
yup .. last time i bought at 3.46 .. hold and hold .. but i scared it will go down again .. then i sold it off .. sad.gif ..

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Sorry, no offence, but with emotion like this (scare), it is difficult to make big buck in the market.
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post Apr 22 2008, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Apr 22 2008, 10:00 AM)
time and timecom volume quite high, y ah??
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This goreng counter is very heavy one, need very big goreng wok and lot of oils before it can actually move. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 10:35 AM)
yup .. no problem . but i have a thin pocket to pay for the loss .. that is better i give up rather than finding 'along' at the end of the day if it doesnt go the way i want ..
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Contra is a dangerous game to play, just a reminder. Play or invest until you are afford.

Cheers.

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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Apr 22 2008, 10:44 AM)
Cherroy, what do you think of TM? Sucker's bet? Or good fundamentals on TM? Should ppl be buying today?
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TM with fixed line and broadband business, it is hard to see breakthrough in the business as we knew fixed line is mature and potentially be challenged by HP and wireless product.

TMinternational (cellular business) might be better than TM due to the prospect of HP and wireless internet.

Buying today is mean you are speculate TM + TMinternational > current TM price, aka chalk up significant gain when they first listing.
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QUOTE(nofear0720 @ Apr 22 2008, 10:57 AM)
What is the pros and cons to play contra? Do you mean that if I wan to play contra, I need to sell my share in T+3 and beyong that, the share will be forced to sell?

Ya that's what i mean. I'm waiting for my TP to sell.

Appreciate your explanation.  biggrin.gif
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Contra - mean you take advatange of T+3. As normally, buying share, you don't need to pay when you buy. You only pay after 3 days, so basically, in this T+3, you don't need to pay up a single cent. So even you have no money, you still can buy but you need to sell off when payment data come. So if T+3 time, share price goes up, sell price > buy price + commission + clearing fee + stamp duty, then you are gaining money without any capital.
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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Apr 22 2008, 10:58 AM)
what is you view? sum price of post merger more or less than TM now? If you had to speculate... tongue.gif
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If I am forced to speculate then I speculate it will open flat.

This is not merger but the other way round, splitting.
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post Apr 22 2008, 11:39 AM

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Seadrill is accumulating Sapcres everyday 2.5 millions shares for the last week.
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post Apr 22 2008, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(aretla @ Apr 22 2008, 12:40 PM)
many gamblers here... young ppl very aggresive  blush.gif
there 1000+ counters.. how come the entire forum is only talking bout SAPCRES???!!!!! rclxub.gif
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Mainly because Sapcres is no the move.

If Genting on the move, then everyone also talk about Genting vice versa.

After all, it is a chit chat forum about stock market.

Cheers.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 01:31 PM)
bmaybe sap sap sui for Goldman tongue.gif
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Similar to to buy 1 lot of xx stock like us only. icon_rolleyes.gif


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