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post Jun 20 2008, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(calvin @ Jun 19 2008, 09:20 PM)
port polish usually cost how much o ? unsure.gif
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anywhere from 300-1500... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Krome @ Jun 19 2008, 10:16 PM)
No wor. I bought it from a shop in sunway then I install myself at home.

Must retune wan? What will happen if I dun retune?

Can take it to any mechanic shop and tune it?

Anyway will keep you guys update on the fuel consumption later after a few more rounds of pumping petrol.
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must retune lor... if not AFR not balance, fc might be affected...

QUOTE(blackpc @ Jun 19 2008, 10:39 PM)
hmm.. it's quite heavy/hard, but that's still acceptable... but cannot tahan the shuddering.
Yup, i used 2 different brand. Cant remember the first brand, but the 2nd one was exedy racing. Cant tahan both, so reverted back to stock exedy. Luckily i still keep my original flywheel. Now forever grateful with the smooth drive.  smile.gif
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shudder??.... how it shudders??.... means clucth pedal vibrates when letgo clutch??... unsure.gif

QUOTE(hamiru @ Jun 19 2008, 11:06 PM)
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how come mine so expensive?
kena con ke aku ni?
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market price is above rm550....

QUOTE(cheeann @ Jun 19 2008, 11:36 PM)
cheap sure confirm cheap lo~
then wen comes labour then  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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labour cheap only mar... mine rm150 include tuning...
or u ask singchaii pasang for u lor... belanja him teh ais enough... whistling.gif

QUOTE(pojam @ Jun 20 2008, 12:03 AM)
i had my dcnf sawed today.

details in my signature.

hopefully better fuel consumption in the future.
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ouch... saw ur dcnf... bazirnyaa... sad.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Jun 20 2008, 06:22 AM)
err guys,...about the engine block measurements lastime sum1 gave...
can pls post again?
cant find back from the old postings
was looking for the dimensions the other day but couldnt find
thanks  thumbup.gif

wuts HHO? rclxub.gif
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engine block measurement ah??.... u mean piston bore n stroke measurement or block size/dimension measurement??...

HHO is a kinda gas.... produced through a special electrolisis on water.... detailed i not sure coz all my kimia books give back teacher adi... biggrin.gif



QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jun 20 2008, 08:32 AM)
i wanna get k&n filter then retune my engine 1st coz i havent retune after i change my midbox biggrin.gif
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den quick quick tune lor...

QUOTE(feralee @ Jun 20 2008, 09:33 AM)
wah
high cam oooo
wat bout the crank rod, piston etc all got change arr?
must test drive his car already  brows.gif
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crankshaft n piston??... no money change la... besides, those stuff are kinda rare.... hard to find...

QUOTE(calvin @ Jun 20 2008, 09:43 AM)
i'm also waiting to grab K&N first biggrin.gif
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great choice... smile.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(blackpc @ Jun 20 2008, 11:29 AM)
when u want to start driving at 1st gear, it will shudder, unless u rev high at every green light. It will also shudder during gear change, if u 'slide' the car few milliseconds slower. Basically u have to drive 'race-like' to ensure perfect/smooth take off/gear change every time.

Not to mention the clutch will be hard to depress, kalau selalu masuk jam memang very good ankle training laa... (i actually gained few inches on my vertical jumps while using the 1.6 clutch  laugh.gif )
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shudder usually because clutch plate couldnt grip on the flywheel properly... it jumps while trying to grip the flywheel..... hmm.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 20 2008, 02:47 PM)
just came back from autogen. Changed to GAB absorber. Haha.. The GAB absorber, more thick that improve. When put GAB and Improve together, it look like catacomb standing beside me. laugh.gif
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meh si pull me into water pulak??... blink.gif blink.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jun 20 2008, 04:15 PM)
apa itu??? it seem like sifu cat diy b4 ler.... some more so expensive ler.....
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meh si??... i diy that one water injection... jz spray some water vapour inside engine... not water-powered engine ler....
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post Jun 20 2008, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 20 2008, 06:20 PM)
Yes.. SA Series. Actually i getting semi adjustable. But too bad suddenly something block my stuff.. Wanna get racing clutch and efi kit, then wanna apply turbo with my friend. Hehe..
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bro, u kena lottery ahh??... can help me kena??... i'm vr poor now... sad.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 20 2008, 07:34 PM)
No la.. Where got kena lottery..  doh.gif  Save it very long time liao. last time always spend on useless part for my car, and now finally wake up...  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 20 2008, 08:48 PM)
Now day dunno what happen with my fc. It getting awesome. Now Rm270 per liter, my fc is just 0.22 per km.
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fast n save minyak car... notworthy.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 20 2008, 09:28 PM)
I find business for you dey. Some classmate interested on your CAI hose when their saw my engine. Hehe... As spark plug, I wana help you do business also. but today instructor taught us about that. So everyone when to their car and remove their spark plug then go back classroom side gappeded it. So cannot give u business on this liao. haha.
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haha... good good... sparkplug leh??... got promote or not??... u order bulk from me la... i give u cheaper price, let u untung from ur classmate... brows.gif

apalah... ur lecturer also know about sidegapping plugs meh??... doh.gif

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post Jun 20 2008, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 20 2008, 09:33 PM)
know.. we not only study car repairing ler. we study motorsport and modification as well geh. Hehe.. Once the instructor teach only, everyone go car take tool and go remove. Very funny. haha.. Then use feeler gauge and gap it again.
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lolz... den u show them urs done sidegapping adi lor... icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 20 2008, 09:40 PM)
Haha.. no la. malas mau cabut out. Some more we treat our car like white mouse. Once study already, then go back cabut. haha... Some more we going to study bring our car issue got. Got what problem, then make it as class discussion. haha.
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good lor... ehh, any of ur classmate using campro engine and sidegapped their sparkplugs??... one of my customer claim cannot use, but i havent tried it myself...
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post Jun 20 2008, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 20 2008, 09:50 PM)
cam tak pro ar? Cannot use mean what? no spark? Got a class mate driving waja, but it not campro.
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cannot use means once start engine after awhile automatic shutdown, as per claimed my the complain fella...
means waja 4g18 can use lar??... i sold to my part time colleague... he havent install, waiting for me help him... i dont have tools to buka his plug also... doh.gif

ohya, what ur classmate say about the mod??.... they got feel the difference??...

QUOTE(andychan @ Jun 20 2008, 09:51 PM)
like a public thread liow =.=
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post Jun 20 2008, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 20 2008, 10:00 PM)
4g18 can use gua. Cause after class, I saw them flying car edi... If got problem, sure call us and stay back see de la. But no wow. No see any member car break down at road side.

Start engine after a while, then automatic shutdown? The spark plug not suitable izit? He use back stock plug got problem like this or not? call him change the 1st spark and see.. Usually can start, mean the spark plug ok de wow.
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no idea... i refund to him adi... he havent send back the plugs to me... gonna post his story up everywhere liao... mad.gif mad.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 20 2008, 10:04 PM)
Sent back the plug, then you test on ur car see got such thing or not. Cause campro very sensitive. Scare the heatrange different, also cannot liao. You gapped how much? 0.80mm?
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yeah... regap back to 0.8mm....

my mech also said campro vr sensitive engine due to its wiring and ecu.... stupid proton...
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post Jun 20 2008, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 20 2008, 10:13 PM)
What to do la.. Campro wat. Haha.. But, campro CPS is different.. Most of my classmate driving turbo car. Only I driving 1.3cc.. Got perdana evo3 turbo, gti turbo, L2 moderno. Poison with turbo. Even a satria 1.6 convert to 4g93 gsr turbo. he helping find single blade turbine for my car. hehe.
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fuhyoo... no wonder u also wanna turbo ur engine adi heh.... brows.gif brows.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 10:26 PM

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unichip main dealer in msia is viswork... what about microtech??... i heard quite ok... emanage too common adi.... not really suitable for high powered engine....
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post Jun 20 2008, 10:31 PM

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for u 3 step sap sap sui lah... loaded sial.... doh.gif

Added on June 20, 2008, 10:32 pm
QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jun 20 2008, 10:31 PM)
ooo. how much how much? the efi + unichip. fc should be awesome
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approx 2k... jz for barang...

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post Jun 21 2008, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jun 20 2008, 10:32 PM)
ei. turbo nid jpj approve ler.....
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ya meh??... no need kua.... stll same displacement... burning the same fuel....

QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Jun 21 2008, 12:25 AM)
u are not the 1st 4g13p turbo  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
y use unichip?so good meh???mortech?...etc?
4g13p max boots around 0.8-1.2.depands on the setting n ecu.
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too high lar for standard internal engine... around 0.5-0.7 will do...
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post Jun 21 2008, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(pojam @ Jun 21 2008, 04:48 AM)
is there anything you can do to the 4g15 stock so that you have that top end power band? sometimes i feel bad when a honda speed away from 130-180km/h.
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highcams, 4-1 extractor....

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Jun 21 2008, 06:23 AM)
ya
for this engine 0.5 boost cukup d
if not after 1+ year will be looking for new engine d
hahaha
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last time i've heard a standard 1.5 block turbocharged running on 1.5bar.... the owner/mechanic every month change engine block.... laugh.gif

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Jun 21 2008, 08:26 AM)

The Govt. announced the new petrol price at RM2.70 and all petrol stations set their meters at RM2.700 EXCEPT Petronas, who set their meters at RM2.704.
We don't really notice this and Petronas is taking advantage of this!!!
I say let's boycott Petronas for good!!

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lucky i dont pump petronas all the while... tongue.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 21 2008, 08:30 AM)
bigger the turbo longer the lag.. can u TT to minimize it nod.gif
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TT to minimize??... ur TT stands for what??...

QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 21 2008, 09:08 AM)
I found the picture on net. TD05 Single blade.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 21 2008, 09:08 AM)
Turbo Charge la. You know what, carburetor also can run turbo charge.  biggrin.gif
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jeng jeng jeng...

user posted image

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and the stock standard TC carbie engine... not bot geh... details spec on this engine i also dunno... it is called G32B...

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 21 2008, 09:08 AM)
Nope. If you have bigger turbo, then make sure the piping and intercooler is suitable to compress the pressure. Mean bigger turbo, bigger piping and bigger intercooler. Because turbo is running about pressure. If those air not compress in the piping and intercooler, then will happen turbo lag. That why usually you see those bigger turbo have bigger intercooler piping and intercooler. But not all turbo user care about this. What the care, janji ada turbo.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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reduce turbo lag, shorter intercooler pipings (better throttle response), correct size intercooler, increase static compression (not too much coz TC engines nature needs low compression engine), or inject nitrous at off boost... brows.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 21 2008, 09:14 AM)
singchaii
the new season of top gear will be air starting tomolo.. there is a nice challenge on the first episode! smile.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 21 2008, 09:58 AM)
About turbo lag, it still got many reason to made it happen.. I not very familiar with this yet since I'm just beginner and just started to learn in college. Maybe in future, I can give more sure about that.
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so good can get formal educations on this... i wanna find people teach me also cannot.... sad.gif
ehh, ur notes can photostat for me ahh??... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Jun 21 2008, 11:02 AM)
Added on June 21, 2008, 11:08 amhey guys, anyone know the market price of a 1.5EFI engine halfcut? thx
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approx 1.5k for svdo or mmc from wira....
approx 3.5k for iswara uk spec complete with fuel tank...
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post Jun 21 2008, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Jun 21 2008, 01:57 PM)
ok.. so the 1st option to change the fuel tank?
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u can maintain ur standard fuel tank and that would be a better choice.... because most old uk version, fuel tank might be rusty or what.... not vr good lor...
if maintain standard tank, must use external fuel pump... opt for a bigger fuel pump as many cases ppl convert to efi using external fuel pump, they experience fuel surge (insufficient fuel delivery)....

remember to use fuel pressure regulator to control the fuel pump extra pressure... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Jun 21 2008, 02:23 PM)
best option...do like tan sri...change car laugh.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 21 2008, 02:38 PM)
Note ar? No note de. But got book. 1000pages  sweat.gif  haha..
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photostat for me lor... hahahaha.....

let me see the content first lor... see see i interested or not... rclxms.gif
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post Jun 21 2008, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Jun 21 2008, 06:26 PM)
ok ok thx alot for info.. now sourcing.. hahah
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fuhyoo... fuel injection project... rclxms.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 21 2008, 06:33 PM)
Content? everything also got. hehe. later I type out the content la.
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tenkiu sifoo... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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