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post May 25 2008, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ May 25 2008, 02:37 PM)
hahaha... I think he car sound more smooth and getting quiet...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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post May 26 2008, 05:40 AM

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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ May 25 2008, 08:22 PM)
wah..i never know ur plug can do alot of wonders...
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QUOTE(singchaii @ May 25 2008, 09:58 PM)
sifu sifu sekalian.. Wanna ask, can change engine sound like vtec engine ar? When vtec activate, from bassy will change to high pitch sound and that sound is so great.. Thinking wanna do on my car when high rev.. izit possible? Haha.. I mean sound only.
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can can... do active exhaust lor... low end s-flow muffler.... after certain preset rpm, switch to straight flow...

or...

QUOTE(pojam @ May 25 2008, 11:28 PM)
look for weber DGAV 32/36.

for normal speeding it will use the 32 jetting (save petrol) but when you floor the pedal,
the 36 kicks in, giving you the necessary power you need.

I'm currently on weber DCNF 40. really bad fuel consumption, RM 50 = 220 ++ km only.
but I drive also quite aggressive lah.

cheers.
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yea, this method... this is what i like about dgv carbs... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

QUOTE(wkho555 @ May 25 2008, 11:42 PM)
can DGAV32 fit saga? brows.gif
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yeap... nod.gif i'm using lor... sweat.gif

QUOTE(pojam @ May 25 2008, 11:51 PM)
bro, weber = universal carburetors.

so as long as your car is running on carbs, you can fit in weber carbs.

so far from what i gather the types starts from DGAV, DCNF, DCOE.

DGAV = most fuel efficient

DCNF = intermediate fuel/power ratio

DCOE = use petrol like water but power is the best lah.
I am thinking about getting the extractor from Powerzone.

Anyway paycheck's coming soon already, hooray for my car!

Cheers.
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not veli agree lo... my fc same or worse than friends using dcnf... rclxub.gif

tuning is vr important to determine ur power and fuel consumption...

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ May 26 2008, 01:10 AM)
fc wise can b better if u got the right tuning.. me lookin for weber too.. DCNF series..  sad.gif  but hard to find..
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dcnf vr hard to find adi.... halfcut hardly can be seen around... mostly also come from those previously used in 4g15/4g13 and upgrading to bigger engine....
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post May 26 2008, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ May 26 2008, 07:26 AM)
dengz.... ur exhaust cost how much? shakehead.gif
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my exhaust now vr cheap cheap only... tongue.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(pojam @ May 26 2008, 10:20 AM)
btw catacombs & dopeisgood, your idle RPM is how much? (mine is 1k RPM)
and when you turn on AC compressor? (mine is 700-800RPM)

you guys did the linkage/FICD thing? (going to do this also lah)
linkage/FICD is when you turn on aircond and it would not affect the engine performance that much.
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aircond off = 900rpm
aircond off = 800-1000rpm (not consistent doh.gif )

yea, using toyota ficd.... but because it is based on vacuum suction, sometimes suction is strong, sometimes is weak... that's why it is inconsistent.... rclxub.gif
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post May 27 2008, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(=Hanxz= @ May 26 2008, 04:17 PM)
so a car leaking of brake oil..will it do any damage to the car ar?
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u will die... brows.gif

QUOTE(kahheng @ May 26 2008, 04:51 PM)
rm90 plus workmanship = arnd rm80 so total not more thn 200
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if diy, cut the cost in half... icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ May 26 2008, 07:09 PM)
hav to try my luck.. if not den just look for DGAV like urs... haha
my car rpm not reali consistent too.. my stock carb autochoke kong-ed d.. when the engine reaches normal temperature den the idling is quite stable at around 900rpm.. when cold it will b like 100-300rpm..
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100-300rpm??... sweat.gif
same like mine la... early morning start car like 2 piston running only... doh.gif

QUOTE(domo_kun @ May 26 2008, 08:04 PM)
sigh, no one seems to know me anymore...
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piston... wave.gif

QUOTE(pojam @ May 26 2008, 08:08 PM)
EDIT: if you are still studying, i'd advise against putting a weber since your fuel consumption would be really really expensive.
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i'm still studying... sad.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ May 27 2008, 10:04 AM)
shd consider change to 1.5L EFi engine shd have better performance and better FC smile.gif
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no replacement for displacement thumbup.gif

QUOTE(pojam @ May 27 2008, 10:54 AM)
correct bro, i considered converting to injection too, but hard to find after parts,

you need not just the injection kit (not that hard to find), but an injection petrol tank as well (hard to find).
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can alwiz opt for external fuel pump ma... icon_idea.gif
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post May 29 2008, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(calvin @ May 27 2008, 10:37 PM)
went to a garage to check on my spark plugs.. and found out that my current plugs have engine oil on its tip .. wonder how it got there.. what replacement spark plugs should I look for ? I was recommended for NGK's G-power platinum
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change to this one...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=582529

QUOTE(pojam @ May 27 2008, 10:52 PM)
my engine now have the weirdest problem...

my black oil very fast used up as if it's leaking but it's not leaking,
and no white smoke from exhaust also...

damn weird...

now i check every couple of days and topup the oil. quite hassle...
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have u changed to different kinda engine oil lately??... for example from mineral upgrade to semi-syn??... if yes, ur engine oil might had burnt off or evaporated during usage...
if no, ur valve seal might had KO.... good example is mine... white smoke OCCASIONALLY comes out but engine kept decreasing... i've used up almost 6L of engine oil even before reaching 5000km mark...

anyway, sent my car for repair adi... replaced valve seal without removing the cylinder head... means its not considered top overhaul as carbon deposit still sits inside the combustion chamber... cry.gif cry.gif

QUOTE(cheeann @ May 28 2008, 02:18 AM)
btw any1 got a steering free play prob here?    blush.gif
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QUOTE(cheeann @ May 28 2008, 07:23 AM)
wat i mean is do u have tis kind of prob after wen u turn left then put ur steering straight n ur car a bit towards left but after a right turn then put d steering straight n ur car a bit straight or towards a bit 2 ur right? ?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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steering bush aka tie-rod bush KO??... steering rack KO??... allignment KO??...

QUOTE(pojam @ May 28 2008, 04:50 PM)
btw, dopeisgood & catacombs, my car have to really wait until the car warm up (the temp meter goes one notch up), otherwise, the car is very prone to dying... you face the same thing?
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yeap... need to warm up to optimum temp only works well.. if not, rpm remain at 500rpm even halfway warming up... nod.gif

QUOTE(calvin @ May 28 2008, 05:23 PM)
definitely is engine oil.. black in colour and kinda thick..
no white smoke emission from the exhaust as well...
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there might be, but vr minor... not significant....

QUOTE(PinkyWhite @ May 29 2008, 11:58 AM)
vrooom by........

ong time no see u guys le..lol
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pinky... wub.gif no more honda??.. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(PinkyWhite @ May 29 2008, 01:01 PM)
lol..thank u.. ^^ 2 days edited it ..
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is that really u in the avatar??... shocking.gif

QUOTE(AhBeng967 @ May 29 2008, 02:56 PM)
Most likely :-

Fluffy dice dangling from rear-view mirror
Soft toys stacked on the rear window panel
Tissue box wrapped in pink-colored Pokemon cover
Garfield toy stuck to side-window
'P' Licence sticker
'I go to KDU' sticker
'Baby On Board' sticker

...and two large 'spotlights'

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u know pinky well??... hmm.gif
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post May 29 2008, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(PinkyWhite @ May 29 2008, 04:08 PM)
yea... look fugly
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nola... not ugly... can improve ma... if u didnt wear the inner layer confirm wonderful... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post May 29 2008, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(PinkyWhite @ May 29 2008, 04:24 PM)
=,= wonderful enough
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QUOTE(leinnz @ May 29 2008, 04:25 PM)
buaya cat spotted.  brows.gif
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i look like a buaya meh??.. dry.gif


Added on May 29, 2008, 4:27 pmberambus mode..

byez..



This post has been edited by the_catacombs: May 29 2008, 04:28 PM
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post May 30 2008, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ May 29 2008, 05:35 PM)
i face that too..but i buat bodo jer...any side effect ar?
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side effect is u cannot let go ur steering and drive... tongue.gif

QUOTE(flyingteeku @ May 29 2008, 05:35 PM)
iswara version above is haywire carb? i remember sifoo cat mention that our stock carb is aisan carb..any1 can clarify that?
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ May 29 2008, 11:26 PM)
not enough lah...
the more wonderful the better  rclxms.gif
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yea... brows.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ May 30 2008, 05:54 AM)
sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif buaya besar ini doh.gif
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mana ada... blush.gif
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post Jun 4 2008, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jun 3 2008, 12:23 AM)
now searching 1.6 efi injection kit. dunno can fit or not
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some part fits... some dont...

fits:
wiring, injector, throttle body, ecu (but might not be ideal)...

dont fit:
stuff other than written above...

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 3 2008, 10:01 AM)
Still thinking. If I convert to EFI, i need to mod to play other thing. If I just convert to EFI and not doing anything, I prefer stay with carb. Furthermore, EFI kit is not light. Kinda heavy compare with carb kit.
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if u planning to mod ur car in long term (as in committed enthusiast), it is worth it... if ur mind already thinking of other car, stay with limited mods (as long as ur itchy hand can stand)... save up and get other car...

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 3 2008, 10:21 AM)
Let me count. EFI + Piggyback ECU + BOT = Costly, and the BOT I think will cost your engine die early.
Another option Weber + highcam + adj cam pulley + PnP = Cheaper, performance wise.

So think yourself.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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max horsepower for forced induction will alwiz more than natural aspirated...
but throttle response and simplicity wise, NA tuning is better...

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 3 2008, 03:01 PM)
Just now go cut hair, really so expensive.. Cut hair Rm18, repair car Rm100.. Accidently langgar divider when parking. Car too low. Bumper drop down. Baru fix come back.. Bumper bracket crack, lips crack. Now replace with metal bracket..
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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tu lah... driving lowered car alwiz watchout for kerbs and dividers... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(calvin @ Jun 3 2008, 03:34 PM)
edit: also thinking if we can somehow mod the BLM's air hose to work in LMSTs... that would be nice  drool.gif
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air hose??... which air hose??... blink.gif

if u mean IAFM system into lmst, quite close to impossible... but then, anything is possible... afterall, this is BOLEH-LAND... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jun 3 2008, 06:48 PM)
or maybe can efi + ngv keh.  brows.gif
dunno ngv can play turbo or not:D
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ngv has quite high octane if not mistaken... by theory it MIGHT be possible... but of coz there are more factors to consider... smile.gif

QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Jun 4 2008, 01:24 AM)
Pipercam RM620.
is this cam good? Opinion?
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mahalnya... whistling.gif

if from kedai aksesory, price lebih kurang like that lo...
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post Jun 4 2008, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Jun 4 2008, 04:02 PM)
SIOC bro selling that pipercam for rm620  sad.gif
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who is that fella??... justin ah??.. hmm.gif
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post Jun 8 2008, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(icyd @ Jun 6 2008, 09:27 AM)
hi guys, i need some help.where can i get a replacement carb for my iswara? my old carb giving prob dy and suck fuel.torque feels dead below 2k rpm.fuel so expensive now cannot tahan. i forgot where but i saw someone selling a mikuni carb if not mistaken that just plug and play.but long time ago la.dunno still can get or not.but please dont suggest weber la.worse on fuel
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now use weber carb vr makan minyak meh??... u tried before??.. unsure.gif

QUOTE(icyd @ Jun 6 2008, 12:15 PM)
i think ive done it several times dy.asked mech to retune but still same.or could it be the ignition system?i change spark plug at every service.my plug cable is bosch.last year change
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interested to try my plugs??.. brows.gif

QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Jun 7 2008, 01:27 AM)
ya anot oh  brows.gif
the sticker can get from wkho....
i tgh cari....1 of my fren finding twin dcoe. mao letak in his Toyota GL. let him tuning 1st. see worth it anot.
but i still find those weber or solex? got solex this kind of thing?

SKY~reply pls
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meh si??...

solex carb??... got la... got many brand one mah... weber, solex, mikuni, holley and so on... macam macam ada... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(blackpc @ Jun 8 2008, 08:32 AM)
hantar kedai le.. i oso donno how to open the carb and service myself.  sweat.gif
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open carb vr easy only ma... whistling.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 8 2008, 09:57 AM)
Wanna ask you guy ya.. Now I'm using mitsubishi oil filter which cost RM34 each.. Wanna know what the different compare with proton oil filter and taiwan oil filter?  hmm.gif
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got picture??.. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 8 2008, 05:32 PM)
No picture.. But it taller and smaller that oem proton.. Friend told me, it more better that original proton... It original mitsubishi and not those chap ayam oil filter ya. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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MIGHT or MIGHT NOT load ur oil pump... bigger/smaller oil filter might load ur oil pump abit... in long term might not be good for ur oil pump... coz we dont know what filter element inside the oil filter, ur oil pump might need more power to push the oil through the filter....

jz a friendly reminder... might not be any problem as well.. haha... jz a precaution... smile.gif

QUOTE(yewwing @ Jun 8 2008, 09:19 PM)
drove the new saga to PD and is so fuel saving..just use 2 bar to go and come back to kl..
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new saga fuel tank how big first??.... if tank is huge and use 2 bar, that 2 bar also alot... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Jun 9 2008, 06:56 PM)
tapi sudah tak virgin lagi.. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Jun 9 2008, 07:04 PM)
ala...u take out n cucuk new spark plugs pun kira gone d  rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jun 9 2008, 07:20 PM)
nod.gif even u change oil filter oledi tak virgin biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(blackpc @ Jun 9 2008, 07:57 PM)
once u sign the car delivery paper, considered pecah dara.  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(vickievox @ Jun 10 2008, 12:26 PM)
any1 of u here seen tis kind of spoiler? i can't find it anywhere in my place..
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where is ur place??.. sweat.gif
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post Jun 12 2008, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(mE_duNNo @ Jun 10 2008, 03:35 PM)
Add me to the club smile.gif
LMST owner...previously studying in MMU mlk and now jobless in KL.

Any lubang? lol
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last year final batch from mmu melaka??... fet ahh??... which course??.. hmm.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 10 2008, 04:06 PM)
sifu.. mana pergi recently? Go vacation edi ar?
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wa balik ipoh rot coz no internet connection... now back in melaka adi... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(kahheng @ Jun 10 2008, 06:39 PM)
ey me also in bintulu now lar ;p
some autofoam pics...
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strong car... notworthy.gif

QUOTE(calvin @ Jun 10 2008, 09:20 PM)
how much did u paid for the autofoam service ?  blink.gif
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yea, how much they quote u and which part u autofoamed??... A/B/C pillar??.. door sills??... unsure.gif

QUOTE(blackpc @ Jun 11 2008, 08:08 AM)
kau punye dah upgrade bolehla... seriously headlamps on older saga/iswara is way way way brighter. I know coz i got both iswara aeroback and LMSS at home.
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true... given that the headlamp is original BOSCH... if ciplak brand like mine, jz pray hard u dont bang anything at nite... doh.gif

QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Jun 11 2008, 02:38 PM)
my weber project hold..doing other things. hehe....when u free?
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weber project on hold... now busy with what project??... hmm.gif

QUOTE(hamiru @ Jun 11 2008, 07:16 PM)
blackpc,
can recommend me any workshop in bangi to fix in new camshaft, campulley?
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in melaka i can recommend... nod.gif

QUOTE(hamiru @ Jun 12 2008, 08:27 AM)
bought from SIC, Piper camshaft and Arospeed campulley, both same like catacomb punya
camshaft banyak mahal woo, rm650 + trade ur original cam, the price alone rm1230  doh.gif
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mahalnya... mine brand new cams with campulley with pasang and tuning, rm960... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(nightzstar @ Jun 12 2008, 01:51 PM)
want to ask, i just service my engine and i found my black oil is leaking, wat could be the problem?
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leaking on the floor??... check rocker arm cover gasket, main gasket and oil sump gasket... check distributor O-ring seal as well... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 12 2008, 05:42 PM)
When I came out from TOC just, KNNCB. Kena sama from MPSJ. Saman RM100.  cry.gif
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Is tiring to study from 8am till 5pm. It crazy..
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tiring coz angkut engine in and out everyday??.. icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(feralee @ Jun 12 2008, 07:45 PM)
my friend teach me
said
"encik tolong la, saya masih belajar/student. tak ada duit."

so they wil give RM30

try  icon_rolleyes.gif
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doh.gif doh.gif

jz show them ur student card can adi...
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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Jun 12 2008, 10:00 PM)
wah...sifoo cat...so long dee u in mmu..bile graduate?  wink.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 12 2008, 10:10 PM)
tired tengok camshaft, tired tengok engine campro. Tired tengok instructor removing the waja campro 1 compartment by 1 compartment and then see him installed all back alone. See him put the valve back we also ki siao liao.. Then evening, go in sound system class.. Instructor was an uncle. The speaker and amp inside, it enough to shake the whole toc. The display set their is awesome.. Today learn about roll cages and pasang roll cages. Haha...
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lolz... da instructor didnt let u all try pasang back the valve spring and valve retainer meh??.... last time i tried once... kanasai... da retainers damn small and need to fit into small tight place inside the valve spring... rclxub.gif

wah... pasang rollcage... drool.gif they got say rollcage is legal??.. rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 13 2008, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Jun 13 2008, 12:45 AM)
guys, how much summons if kena caught for expired driving license?
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hukum gantung sampai mati
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post Jun 13 2008, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 13 2008, 08:13 AM)
Didn't said the rollcage is legal la.. But when their teach, they use track car to teach us. That track car really used to race. And MME, TOC got 2 cars for the race.
Then will saman, Driving with expired license + No insurance. If I not wrong, is Rm600 because double charge.
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fuhyoo... when TOC gonna hire u as their race car driver??.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 14 2008, 12:23 AM)
Orang rumah kaler apa korang pun nak sibuk.. isk isk isk.. Banyak senang ker korang? kalau senang sangat, tolong I buat portfolio untuk assessment TOC can ar? haha.
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 14 2008, 12:47 PM)
For those who have in the mind wanna convert to NGV, i think you guy should not continue to think about that. It suck alot!! Today I drove a wira 1.5 NGV into bukit antarabangsa and you know what? It can't climb hill!!! No power at all... WTF! But if in highway, it still can average get 100kmh.. When I climbed using NGV, i feel damn tulan.. No power for hill climbing... It 1500cc.. What if done on 1300cc?
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hahhaa... wanna jimat is like dat lor....

what if u turbocharged ur car and convert to NGV/CNG??....sure got more power rite??... brows.gif
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 14 2008, 01:33 PM)
Turbocharged cannot convert into NGV. It must have petrol to work. Haha... Or else, that will be a pondan turbo. Haha.
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pondan turbo... sweat.gif sweat.gif

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