RM 1590

My armored up k850

itz special to me... nice hp u got thr... if i not mistaken, u r the 1st black user... congratzzz...

Thanx. still hoping to find the nightwatch theme to use on it though. The colors would be quite matching IMHO.

first quicksilver black user shud be irontech

btw, tried toying the camera in the dark juz now...


the Xenon flash isnt strong enough for far objects in the dark =/


it's better to take photos without the flash during the night?

This post has been edited by Redundant: Apr 27 2008, 10:37 AM

iey, how come people near car door looks blurry?

without flash, shutter speed become slow. thats why any movement make the picture looks blur. correct me if i wrong.

what is the first picture looks so underexposed?

i think SE still dun make improvement on K850i cam

It's a flash sync problem which prevails in the older firmware problem, or probably just a camera setting problem ba.

Haih...so far 3 BRODs with the EA037 firmware. Anyone did NOT have ANY BROD with the new firmware?

Could anyone suggest some settings for the camera for basic picture taking?

i really wanted to buy this phone, but after i google on BROD, i found tons of issue regarding this problem. now really donno is it worth to buy or not...

the flash sync is ok but when the object is far away (notice the head lamps of the car is illuminated in the 1st pic), it's just not strong enough to light up the environment for it... cannot compare it to those from a real digital camera where the amount of flash can be adjusted according to the environment

here's one of the close up shot with the flash on =)


p/s: the place was realli dark as the picture was taken at the parking area outside jusco w.maju

This post has been edited by Redundant: Apr 27 2008, 10:39 AM

I could only think it'll be worse if it had an ordinary LED flash. Anyway, time and again here and other threads, don't compare with dedicated digicam. The smaller the flash the shorter its effective range, eventhough xenon or whatever.
Phone cam works best with good natural lighting or in sunlight, then you can tweak the photos digitally with software...thats about it. Thats why I keep and still use my 4 year old Olympus C-760 3.2MP BIG LENS camera for party pics or any other general purpose. It beats most and even latest compact cam in many departments. The bigger the lens, the bigger the flash..you get better results..thats it!.

BROD is NO rumor at home or abroard, its a serious issue that makes this model a liability and risk. Of course no one will stop you from buying if you still insist..just be forewarned.

This post has been edited by bsl555: Apr 27 2008, 11:44 AM

even upgrading to the latest firmware still does not solves the BROD problem? wonder when SE wanna solve it. its like SE phones tend to have so much problem nowadays. cracked keypad, peeling keypad, unstable firmware etc. not to really complaint about it but just feel kinda disappointed sometimes. SE produce great phones but they gotta start ensure their phones are up to the quality their customer expectations.

This post has been edited by teikwing: Apr 27 2008, 02:05 PM

Yea, i feel tat Samsung is still better in the R&D segment =)
I also hav my 5MP Nikon E5700 digicam but i dun really like bringing it out to everywhere i go... this is where the k850i could really come in handy

This post has been edited by Redundant: Apr 27 2008, 01:47 PM

might be SE not very good in customers feedback and customers service..even in p1i, the latest FW still has bug

As mentioned before, only a total reflash ( not only update through SEUS ) can solve the BROD problem in ver. 037

maybe SE office block all forums access where din't realize SE bugs posting

SE should start looking in forums like LYN, Esato, NSE-SE to get the real picture of what's happening to their phones. for real.