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P1 P1 W1Max Thread unofficial thread., The One and Only WiMax Broadband

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post Aug 15 2008, 11:48 AM

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Setapak area is covered. At least Wangsa Maju section 1/2 is.
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Anyone know whether PJS9 in SUnway is covered?

it seems it only covered Dataran Sunway but not the housing area near it.
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post Aug 16 2008, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(eksk @ Aug 13 2008, 02:30 PM)
just got my wimax half an hour ago... my speed test

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wow high latency arrghh for Wimax

this is my Screamyx 512kb package

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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Aug 16 2008, 09:34 AM)
wow high latency arrghh for Wimax

this is my Screamyx 512kb package

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of course, wired connection always beat wireless in terms of latency, no matter the speed......

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post Aug 16 2008, 09:53 AM

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how much is the wimax modem?
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post Aug 16 2008, 05:30 PM

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May the experts out there enlighten us the backbone bandwidth which P1 WiMax is running on and also links to which international carrriers / links, is it also sharing with the TMnet backbone / international links (gateways) to outside of Malaysia ?

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post Aug 16 2008, 06:00 PM


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This i want to know too, so far they stated they are using their very own P1 backbone which i'm not too convinced.
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QUOTE(dragna @ Aug 16 2008, 06:00 PM)
This i want to know too, so far they stated they are using their very own P1 backbone which i'm not too convinced.
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Yea, no matter what speed they offer from their exchanges to the consumers, the clients, the main concern will be their bankbone links (bandwidth) as well as hook up to which international gateways / carriers in order to go outside of Malaysia. Unless there are developments on new / upgrade international carriers to other countries, else every ISPs here also using the same gateways, the bandwidth may not suffice to the growing bandwidth usage, that is another reasons they impose bandwidth throttle.. etc.. with the so-called Fair Usage Policy. sweat.gif

Obviously, the business corporations will be given higher priority and using different backbone channels as compared to general public consumers.

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QUOTE(nickelby @ Aug 15 2008, 11:48 AM)
Setapak area is covered. At least Wangsa Maju section 1/2 is.
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How about taman sri rampai , setapak ?
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post Aug 16 2008, 08:58 PM

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Hope P1 can help us say good bye to shytty tmnut screamyx
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QUOTE(Silfrijin @ Aug 16 2008, 05:30 PM)
May the experts out there enlighten us the backbone bandwidth which P1 WiMax is running on and also links to which international carrriers / links, is it also sharing with the TMnet backbone / international links (gateways) to outside of Malaysia ?

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Only P1 internal staff will know the backbone bandwidth, I don't think they will publish it on the website cause it's non of the user concern. As an ISP, the backbone bandwidth can always be upgraded when neccessary and most will be running on fiber.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Malaysia only has only one international gateway by TM. All overseas traffic will pass by there.

For most users who are using Streamyx, please bear in mind that just because your connection is slow, that does not mean TMnet backbone is slow!
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Aug 16 2008, 09:33 PM)
Only P1 internal staff will know the backbone bandwidth, I don't think they will publish it on the website cause it's non of the user concern. As an ISP, the backbone bandwidth can always be upgraded when neccessary and most will be running on fiber. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, Malaysia only has only one international gateway by TM. All overseas traffic will pass by there.

For most users who are using Streamyx, please bear in mind that just because your connection is slow, that does not mean TMnet backbone is slow!
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JARING has their own gateway as well , just FYI !

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post Aug 17 2008, 01:03 AM

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Ok, Let say TM got 100Gbps to US backbone.

they will rent / let 10Gbps to Maxis, 10Gbps to Celcom, 10Gbps to PenangFon and so on..

The remaining will be data centre and lastly streamyx user.

Y Jaring is faster eventhough they are using TM backbone as well. Bcoz did not overselling their US bandwidth which rent from TM.
Well, Any extra bandwidth will give to streamyx user. so we got down time, msn can not sign in, Youtube slow and etc.
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post Aug 17 2008, 01:07 AM

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screamyx gave me 406kb/s download and 194kb/s upload. zzz . anyway w1max is wireless so its not good for gaming? because of what? will get dc frequently? but compare to screamyx and w1max , will u choose sceamyx to play games or w1max..? wink.gif
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post Aug 17 2008, 06:37 AM

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I'm using Streamyx for 6 years, my connection is always good, speed test always shows the bandwidth that i'm supposed to get. P2P is hard to just since it has been throttled. Ping time reasonable. So it's really depends on the location, maybe my location is not congested with alot of users, that's why.

That's why I don't think it has anything to do with TM backbone/backhaul capability.

If you are willing to pay TM for leased line, they can guarantee your QoS as much as you want it.

So, even if P1 W1MAX is riding on Fibercom, Fiberail, etc to TM gateway ... I don't see an issue ... since the backhaul is TM leased line but not RM88 Streamyx 1 Mbps package.
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QUOTE(Suk @ Aug 17 2008, 01:03 AM)
Ok, Let say TM got 100Gbps to US backbone.

they will rent / let  10Gbps to Maxis, 10Gbps to Celcom, 10Gbps to PenangFon and so on..

The remaining will be data centre and lastly streamyx user.

Y Jaring is faster eventhough they are using TM backbone as well. Bcoz did not overselling their US bandwidth which rent from TM.
Well, Any extra bandwidth will give to streamyx user. so we got down time, msn can not sign in, Youtube slow and etc.
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Wrong , your concept is wrong. TM has a huge International link. Try comparing TM's Lease Line to your Streamyx. You'll feel the difference. The problem with residential package is that TM just applies QoS rules aka fair play , since we have been allocated some resources , and in order to manage it , TM just has to throttle connection , etc to ensure everyone gets to enjoy the broadband. For lease line , the experience is totally different - its you and the Internet and there is no middle man. No funny QoS rules , that speed belongs to you and there is no way TM can throttle.
QUOTE(Angelodeath @ Aug 17 2008, 01:07 AM)
screamyx gave me 406kb/s download and 194kb/s upload. zzz . anyway w1max is wireless so its not good for gaming? because of what? will get dc frequently? but compare to screamyx and w1max , will u choose sceamyx to play games or w1max..?  wink.gif
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Whats wrong with 406kbps and 194kbps. You're on the 512Kbps package and it seems fine to me. 75% of the advertised speed , so whats the big fuzz ?
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post Aug 17 2008, 08:58 PM

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I visited a booth today. I was informed that P1 will officially launch their WiMax tomorrow, by their CEO with press releases and introduction on their packages. Hmm...

QUOTE(p4n6 @ Aug 16 2008, 09:33 PM)
Only P1 internal staff will know the backbone bandwidth, I don't think they will publish it on the website cause it's non of the user concern. As an ISP, the backbone bandwidth can always be upgraded when neccessary and most will be running on fiber. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, Malaysia only has only one international gateway by TM. All overseas traffic will pass by there.

For most users who are using Streamyx, please bear in mind that just because your connection is slow, that does not mean TMnet backbone is slow!
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Yea, P1 internal staff, especially those work for WiMax network infrastructure teams. brows.gif
Malaysia has few international gateways. Search around on the Networks and Broadband, there are threads on this information, the international links such as ACPN2 and few others. There is one soon to be completed by year end or so, from here to US if not mistaken.

QUOTE(Angelodeath @ Aug 17 2008, 01:07 AM)
screamyx gave me 406kb/s download and 194kb/s upload. zzz . anyway w1max is wireless so its not good for gaming? because of what? will get dc frequently? but compare to screamyx and w1max , will u choose sceamyx to play games or w1max..?  wink.gif
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Well, that is quite OK already for that speed rate. WiMax is still a wireless transmission mode of communication, generally, wireless has higher network latency compared to cable. We will see how WiMax will fare in terms of this. Advertised speed rating does not mean anything if the latency is high. We will see how they actually implement their infrastructure to optimize the radio transmissions and also how to mitigate the high latency if it is high.

QUOTE(p4n6 @ Aug 17 2008, 06:37 AM)
I'm using Streamyx for 6 years, my connection is always good, speed test always shows the bandwidth that i'm supposed to get. P2P is hard to just since it has been throttled. Ping time reasonable. So it's really depends on the location, maybe my location is not congested with alot of users, that's why.

That's why I don't think it has anything to do with TM backbone/backhaul capability.

If you are willing to pay TM for leased line, they can guarantee your QoS as much as you want it.

So, even if P1 W1MAX is riding on Fibercom, Fiberail, etc to TM gateway ... I don't see an issue ... since the backhaul is TM leased line but not RM88 Streamyx 1 Mbps package.
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So far, my Streamyx is fairly OK, able to achieve more or less the speed I subscribe, exception to some of the time where they have isssues. Some of the users experience bad services are probably due to alot of factors, congestion on their areas... etc. I guess we cannot really compare the general consumer broadband with the corporate / enterprise services like leased line, different class of services. I am also curious about how their transmission towers interlink to their backbones, how much concurrent connections they are able to handle and etc. Maybe WiMax forum / whitepapers can shed lights on this. Well, Intel is pushing this technology by investing RM50 mil on P1.

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post Aug 17 2008, 10:05 PM

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Yup! In term of latency, I don't think any wireless broadband can fight with wired broadband. But bear in mind that, not all application services on internet need to low latency (120ms considered fine).

What wireless broadband can offer is more than what wired broadband, similar to fixed line phone and mobile phone, which one is more popular to date?


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