Yeah, wonder why another selling is putting up RM1690 for AP Final Choice. Wonder he got stock also.

Anyway reviews will definitely help. Might want to get one. Hehehe!

I think ok lar for the time being. Those response times will improve when Nokia release software updates. So no worries. I'm more interested in checking out the demo sets. I've been to KLCC and Pavilion's Nokia and none had it. So looks like I went to the wrong places. I hope Pyramid still have it cause I was there last Friday and there was nothing.

Yeah very nice number. Anyway, 9 January 2009 isn't that far away from now. The question is, how accurate is the launch date. Will we see stocks available on that day. I would prefer a pre-sale. Hehehehe....

Wonder the sales person have any clue haha! RM23xx to 24xx. That would be a disaster as many expected it to be around RM18xx-2000 (max RM2199). But next week got stocks? Could be a pre-sale? Or the period where they fulfill pre-orders?

Just got back from Lowyat Plaza and most of the sellers don't have Nokia 5800. The ones that have sell for RM1899 AP from BBS.

Unlikely due to production ramping up and supply chain management processes. It takes approximately 3 months lead time for a product to be shipped from source to retail if you consider the parts ordering, production process, assembly process, shipment and stocking processes. The ones that will be put on sale in January will most likely originate from October/November production dates.

Considering that the report came into the forum recently, it'll take Nokia some time to realize and verify within its own labs. If there are in deed a hardware fault, it'll take some time before the hardware revisions trickle down to retail side. If it is a software problem, then its just a matter of time for releasing the next phone software update.

Kekekekeke.... I bite the bullet and ordered myself a unit from AP Final Choice. Couldn't wait and too much temptations here. Price is RM1650 but at the last moment, no stock. So waiting for tomorrow, hoping there is a unit left for me. I chose red color because it looks cooler in that. Anyway most XpressMusic phones are in hot red and it ain't that bad on the Nokia 5800.

Well gonna keep it for the moment since I like the QWERTY keyboard so much. But if there are takers, I don't mind letting it go.

Anyway no stock yet lar. So I am not an owner yet.

This post has been edited by davidmak: Dec 17 2008, 09:46 PM

But seriously, the N85 is a revamp of the old N95 plus newer Symbian OS revision. Guess he did made up his mind already. Hahaha! The Zitron 5800, well take it as a grain of salt for the moment. I don't think the original ones will sell at RM16xx-17xx price range. Its probably AP.

Guys, if all goes well I will be receiving my set tonight! Very excited.

Today during lunch time, I walked around IOI Mall and received 'insider' news that apparently Nokia concept stores are quietly selling the original sets. He didn't mention which store, but pointed to KL Nokia stores. This is consistent to the claims by a Lowyat Plaza store saying the LY Nokia Concept Store is the only one selling the Nokia 5800 before launch. However, upon asking LY Nokia sales person, they deny. very very strange.

Anyway APs will have a certain amount of risks. If it is software ones, I am not worried since I can always find solutions for it. Hardware ones will be a headache though. QC wise, doesn't matter from which country of origin. You should be enjoying the same quality from Nokia no matter which country of origin. However, for Nokia 5800 we want to know the country of origin due to the Comes with Music service that Nokia will launching separately next year.

Oops, got the phone. More pictures coming tomorrow

Nope, same case as you. Everything sit in the box. I don't like the feeling of having something dangling on my phone. The pouch is a little tight now, so I am afraid it might scratch the plastic frame.

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INITIAL REVIEW

Guys here's my initial review. No pictures yet. Just my general impression of the phone.

Casing/Built
Apparently, I have no problems with the built quality that I am expecting. So far it is within my expectation. No squeaky plastic noise. The cosmetic and finishing is really nice. Its great because I thought it is only a solid black plastic with red stripe/ring. Truth is, it is a more attractive translucent black with red tint and the red striped embedded inside. The finishing doesn't look susceptible to scratches but I am not sure. Overall feel is good and the hand grip is just great cause its not too wide. And its very light too.

Screen Quality
It is one of the best things of the XpressMusic 5800. The resolution is high enough making everything look crispy and the contrast is acceptable. 3.2" is a nice size without being too wide. I think the 3.5" would look wider with an overall same vertical length. The touchscreen is amazing because its is very sensitive like the capacitive screens. The surface texture is slightly soft so it'll dent a bit when you use the stylus like any other resistive screens.

OS/UI/Homescreen
The OS is optimized enough for smooth operation. The rotation thingy is better than what others have said. On the regular menu, it takes less than a second to complete rotation. On the gallery/picture/video mode however, it'll take longer due to the fade-in/fade-out action. Swiping action on the photos are good enough without much lagging. The only problem is the slow showing of thumbnails. It'll take some seconds before it could refresh all the thumbnails unlike N-series phones like N95 for example. The homescreen is a little of a disappointment in the sense that you can only put up to 4 of your favorite contacts. I would like the option to put more.

Camera/Video Quality
The camera feature is decent enough for regular use. I have no problems working with a 3.2MP camera resolution. The features are good enough unless you're expecting smile/face detections. I am a little concern on the white balance detection part. Pictures are ok but would do better on the color accuracy under artificial lighting. The video quality is just GREAT! Great in the sense that full resolution at 30fps is magically smooth! However, the quality is fuzzy and very noisy under poor lighting. I think this can be solved via software updates. I'm very confident.

Speaker
The integrated stereo speakers are very good. Music player has all the features you need for playback.

Internet Browsing Experience
This is something you can expect on all Nokia S60 browsers. It'll work with flash and JAVA objects. WIFI is fast enough. The browsing part is a little different than normal S60 browsers because you now have to work a touchscreen like iPhone/iPod Touch/WinMo devices. The normal swiping up and down (for scrolling), double tap (for zooming in and out), etc all applies here. The scrolling part is pretty smooth and can be further improved. The 3.2" work its magic in this area too, displaying everything you can see on the website without too much left and right scrolling (assuming you work in horizontal orientation).

Thats all from me at the moment. I'll post some photos later. In summary, the phone meets my expectation except for the imaging and video part which is a little of a disappointment. I knew the E71's camera sucks, so I thought 5800 would easily trump it. I haven't check the actual photos on my PC yet, maybe they will be different.

This post has been edited by davidmak: Dec 19 2008, 08:52 AM

Unknown yet. Just charged and its the beginning of the day now. I'll report again in a few days time.

Yeah lu, when are you getting? So nice the phone. It has so many cool features. The screen is just so crisp and nice! No need coffee break, just browse. If you buy the 5800, you can use the super cool wide screen to view this review liao. Got wifi mah.

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Added on December 19, 2008, 10:20 amComplaints: Definitely the camera and video part which can be a lot better.

Camera
The color accuracy is not there yet and there's some slight tinting at the left and right side. Looks like vignetting to me but vignetting usually happens on the corners. AF is accurate and responsive.

Video
The refresh rate of 30fps is fine. But the quality is very fuzzy under poor lighting conditions. Also in video mode, the pictures is zoomed.

I would say these are preliminary problems with the software which can be updated when the time comes. So I am not worried. I am just pleased that this phone has better video recording capability, something like the Samsung INNOV8. I've seen the quality on INNOV8 which is superb and smooth. Makes every N-series phones out there wanting to be better. Probably the N85/96 would have 30fps but I can't confirm.

This post has been edited by davidmak: Dec 19 2008, 10:20 AM

Wait till you see the pictures tonight.

True. But we've seen better output from other non-Nseries phones. So I would expect at least on par lor. Come to think of it, if Nokia puts in a Carl-Zeiss marketing gimmick but skimp on the post processing part. It'll ruin the same marketing gimmick put on N-series phones. Users would have the wrong impression.

I tell you the Global Racer game is so chun! You have to steer the phone like a steering wheel manipulating the accelerometer to control the vehicle. And it feels just like driving.

Anyway too bad, there are no compatible Garmin Mobile XT and Windows Live. Would be great if Nokia 5800 was launched with a small library of compatible software. Perhaps, in the next few months I guess since N97 is coming. So it makes perfect sense. Launch the 5800 to trigger software community to support it. Use the 5800 as an experimental tool. When N97 is released probably in the mid of 2009, we should have a good number of compatible software. These applications drive the sale of phones too you know.

Wow... very big difference like the Touch Diamond case.

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Added on December 19, 2008, 1:39 pmYou got ah. Where you buy? Where is your place?


This post has been edited by davidmak: Dec 19 2008, 01:39 PM

Yeah, product haven't release already reach 80 over pages. Now AP available liao, already more than 100+. Truely awesome. Show that people are interested with the product. Sales don't know lar.

Probably the plastic overlay meant to protect the camera can catch finger print and oily stuff. So it'll reduce resolving power of the lens. In the end, you get less accurate colors and stuff like that.