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TSericmaxman
post Aug 4 2008, 11:47 AM

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Sorry. Even if tekan harder? Still got delay?
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post Aug 4 2008, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Aug 4 2008, 11:47 AM)
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Sorry. Even if tekan harder? Still got delay?
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Not that sluggish but still delay a bit..Especially 3rd gear, sucks..Maybe will consider exhaust system or Mythelogy LCP..
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post Aug 4 2008, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Aug 4 2008, 08:03 AM)
I did hear some news about some guy's Campro disintegrated. As far as I can tell, this should not happen under normal circumstances, right?
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yeap.... the crank sensor misalligned, causing damage to the target wheel... the whole target wheel disintegrated inside the engine, causing the crankshaft to break into 2.... rclxub.gif

QUOTE(squareballs @ Aug 4 2008, 08:53 AM)
I was rushing home for badminton yesterday, and i trashed my campro like mad..Seriously cannot feel the umph..Tekan den after 1-2 sec only pecut.
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its normal... proton tuned it to allow the throttle body open progressively even how violent u step on the pedal....
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Aug 4 2008, 01:37 PM)
yeap.... the crank sensor misalligned, causing damage to the target wheel... the whole target wheel disintegrated inside the engine, causing the crankshaft to break into 2.... rclxub.gif
its normal... proton tuned it to allow the throttle body open progressively even how violent u step on the pedal....
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I did go through the website. But I don't undersatnd how did it happen. Can elaborate more?
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post Aug 4 2008, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Aug 4 2008, 01:48 PM)
I did go through the website. But I don't undersatnd how did it happen. Can elaborate more?
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i wasnt clear as well.... but i guess its the cranksensor misalligned... causing it to hit the target wheel.... the target wheel broke into half, causing a whole lot of mess inside.... and in the routine, jammed the movement of the crankshaft, causing the crankshaft to break into 2.... doh.gif
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post Aug 4 2008, 03:32 PM

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Quite complicated hmm.gif
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post Aug 4 2008, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Aug 4 2008, 03:32 PM)
Quite complicated hmm.gif
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yea... me too... how can the cranksensor sudently misalligned.... and how the target wheel can damage the whole crankshaft... and how the hell the strongest part of the engine, crankshaft, can break into 2... doh.gif doh.gif
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post Aug 28 2008, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(mTk @ Apr 8 2008, 11:26 PM)
OK, Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control then. Still, my same point remains. VTEC = variable valve timing. Just not as continuous and advanced as today's stuff like i-VTEC, VANOS and VVT-i biggrin.gif
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CPS is way better, similar to porsche VARIOCAM but in simplified form. Both came from Lotus Engineering Dept.
meanwhile, Toyotas' Variable Valve Timing and Lift is a flop.
do u know Toyota has now ceased production of its VVTL-i engines for most markets, because the engine does not meet Euro IV specifications for emissions. As a result, some Toyota models have been discontinued, including the Corolla T-Sport (Europe), Corolla Sportivo (Australia), Celica, Corolla XRS, Toyota Matrix XRS, and the Pontiac Vibe GT, all of which had the 2ZZ-GE engine fitted.
Exception on Lotus Elise which still use this powertrain, bcoz Lotus managed to reverse-engineering this 2ZZ-GE and made it compliant.
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post Aug 29 2008, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(sportivo @ Aug 28 2008, 09:53 PM)
CPS is way better, similar to porsche VARIOCAM but in simplified form. Both came from Lotus Engineering Dept.
meanwhile, Toyotas' Variable Valve Timing and Lift is a flop.
do u know Toyota has now ceased production of its VVTL-i engines for most markets, because the engine does not meet Euro IV specifications for emissions. As a result, some Toyota models have been discontinued, including the Corolla T-Sport (Europe), Corolla Sportivo (Australia), Celica, Corolla XRS, Toyota Matrix XRS, and the Pontiac Vibe GT, all of which had the 2ZZ-GE engine fitted.
Exception on Lotus Elise which still use this powertrain, bcoz Lotus managed to reverse-engineering this 2ZZ-GE and made it compliant.
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Where did you find this info? Quite enlightening to see that Toyota ain't that great after all.
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post Aug 29 2008, 07:39 AM

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copy paste from wikipedia laugh.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VVT-i
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post Aug 29 2008, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(zacevox @ Aug 29 2008, 07:39 AM)
copy paste from wikipedia laugh.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VVT-i
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reading thru this thread, is it correct that:
*both VTEC & VVT need to open valve for mixture to flow thru?
*the main difference is the way to open the valve; VTEC(mechanical) & VVT(electronic)?

i dunno much...

about the campro, i always drive the non-cps campro auto.
if i want to feel the acceleration, i choose the 3rd gear rather than D.
then slam the accelerator wink.gif

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Aug 29 2008, 12:25 PM)
pwned... laugh.gif
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but in wikipedia said vvtl-i engine is 10 years old, Lotus Elise is among that still using it until now.

This post has been edited by zacevox: Aug 29 2008, 09:16 PM
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post Aug 30 2008, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(farghmee @ Aug 29 2008, 03:41 PM)
reading thru this thread, is it correct that:
*both VTEC & VVT need to open valve for mixture to flow thru?
*the main difference is the way to open the valve; VTEC(mechanical) & VVT(electronic)?

i dunno much...

about the campro, i always drive the non-cps campro auto.
if i want to feel the acceleration, i choose the 3rd gear rather than D.
then slam the accelerator wink.gif
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vtec/cps/mivec system is more towards increasing the lift of the valve at certain rpm by switching to the higher cam profile...
while vvt is variable valve timing... it switches the cams advance or retard according to load of the engine...

both also controlled by electronics...
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post Sep 10 2008, 06:43 PM

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Are there any mechanical vvt?
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post Sep 10 2008, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Sep 10 2008, 06:43 PM)
Are there any mechanical vvt?
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nope.... if u understand what is vvt...
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post Sep 10 2008, 08:30 PM

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I don't.

I only know it makes more POWAHHH !!
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post Sep 12 2008, 09:22 PM

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Guys, I heard that Proton wont be putting the CPS system into the Persona, is it true? Heard from a salesman
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post Sep 13 2008, 01:49 PM

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persona is more towards family use, so they dun intend to make it for youngsters...

thts y u can c they use soft type suspension, coz persona more towrds comfort..

for wat they wan to plonk in cps to persona as normal one sufficient enuff to carry all the family from a to b..

rumors tht cps may be put into neo is still reasonable, coz neo is aiming for younsters n single ppl..
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now got 1.3 CPS or IAFM or not?
the Saga is using IAFM or normal Campro?

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