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TSericmaxman
post Apr 7 2008, 09:38 PM, updated 14y ago

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What is it with Proton? Why so many name? We have the Waja CPS, Persona with IAFM. SO which is which? I know that CPS is Cam Profile Switching..but the rest? blink.gif blink.gif
Why so many names?then what about the previous generation Waja Campro? or GEN-2 Campro?

This post has been edited by ericmaxman: Apr 8 2008, 01:26 PM
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post Apr 7 2008, 09:42 PM

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post Apr 7 2008, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 7 2008, 09:38 PM)
What is it with Proton? Why so many name? We have the Waja CPS, Persona with IAFM. SO which is which? I know that CPS is Cam Profile Switching..but the rest? blink.gif  blink.gif
Why so many names?then what about the previous generation Waja Campro? or GEN-2 Campro?
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yeah i wonder why too?
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post Apr 7 2008, 09:43 PM

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Because simply its -----> Buatan MALAYSIA?
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post Apr 7 2008, 09:45 PM

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Malaysian like buzz word, eg VVT-i, DVVT, VTEC, IAFM, CPS, lol.
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post Apr 7 2008, 09:58 PM

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IAFM mean what?
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post Apr 7 2008, 10:01 PM

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Here you go..

http://www.proton.com/innovation/rnd/campro.php
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post Apr 7 2008, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(andychan @ Apr 7 2008, 10:58 PM)
IAFM mean what?
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IAFM = ! M Fat Man
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post Apr 7 2008, 10:17 PM

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more info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campro_engine

For those lazy ppl, i'll try to summarize. There are 3 Campro engines out there:
1. Plain old CamPro (all proton cars after Waja and before New Saga)
2. CamPro IAFM (New Saga and latest batch Persona)
3. CamPro CPS (Gen-2 CPS and Waja CPS)

The plain CamPro was supposed to have cam profile switching technology since the very first version, but it was dropped to save cost(?). As a result it had a big ugly torque dip at lower rpms (i.e. no power unless you rev high).

IAFM stands for Intake Air Fuel Module (lol @ i am fat man). I dont know how it works, but basically the torque dip is gone. No need to rev so high, easier to handle in city driving and traffic jams.

CPS is the real Cam Profile Switching technology, which also has the same effect as IAFM. Maybe a little bit more overall power. It comes together with something called VIM (Variable Intake Manifold) but usually it's shortened to CPS only.

Interesingly, if you try to read CamPro CPS in full (no short form) then it sounds like Cam Profile Cam Profile Switching. blink.gif It should also be noted that none of these are cutting edge technology developed by proton. They exist in many other cars, probably under different names.

Sorry if i made any mistake in my post...cya icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 7 2008, 10:17 PM

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campro = no variable cam, no variable valve, no nothing

iafm = TVIS found on 1st gen 4AGE from AE86 from year 1985 yawn.gif

cps = variable valve lift which dont work. a sophisticated and well designed engine with valve lift tech should make 165hp like B16A. this "new technology" could be found in 1988 EF9 CRX B16A

vim = variable inlet manifold

today is 7/4/2008. phailed

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post Apr 7 2008, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(yu_wang @ Apr 7 2008, 10:17 PM)
more info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campro_engine

For those lazy ppl, i'll try to summarize. There are 3 Campro engines out there:
1. Plain old CamPro (all proton cars after Waja and before New Saga)
2. CamPro IAFM (New Saga and latest batch Persona)
3. CamPro CPS (Gen-2 CPS and Waja CPS)

The plain CamPro was supposed to have cam profile switching technology since the very first version, but it was dropped to save cost(?). As a result it had a big ugly torque dip at lower rpms (i.e. no power unless you rev high).

IAFM stands for Intake Air Fuel Module (lol @ i am fat man). I dont know how it works, but basically the torque dip is gone. No need to rev so high, easier to handle in city driving and traffic jams.

CPS is the real Cam Profile Switching technology, which also has the same effect as IAFM. Maybe a little bit more overall power. It comes together with something called VIM (Variable Intake Manifold) but usually it's shortened to CPS only.

Interesingly, if you try to read CamPro CPS in full (no short form) then it sounds like Cam Profile Cam Profile Switching.  blink.gif It should also be noted that none of these are cutting edge technology developed by proton. They exist in many other cars, probably under different names.

Sorry if i made any mistake in my post...cya  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thats why they doesn't mention Campro CPS, just CPS. Even the emblem at the boot also just CPS 1.6.

QUOTE(athlonxp @ Apr 7 2008, 10:17 PM)
campro = no variable cam, no variable valve, no nothing

iafm = TVIS found on 1st gen 4AGE from AE86 from year 1985  yawn.gif

cps = variable valve lift which dont work. a sophisticated and well designed engine with valve lift tech should make 165hp like B16A. this "new technology" could be found in 1988 EF9 CRX B16A

vim = variable inlet manifold

today is 7/4/2008. phailed
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To be fair, the hp in CPS is low than the older VTEC engine, some are contributed by complying with Euro-4 standard (something about polution etc... sweat.gif ).

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post Apr 7 2008, 10:35 PM

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technology followed far from behind the century eh?
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post Apr 7 2008, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Apr 7 2008, 10:30 PM)
Thats why they doesn't mention Campro CPS, just CPS. Even the emblem at the boot also just CPS 1.6.
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Whoops. I stand corrected, thanks. doh.gif
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QUOTE(RCrex @ Apr 7 2008, 10:35 PM)
technology followed far from behind the century eh?
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from the 80s rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


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post Apr 7 2008, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(RCrex @ Apr 7 2008, 10:35 PM)
technology followed far from behind the century eh?
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What to do.. sweat.gif Even CPS they got from Lotus, if develop from scratch.. doh.gif

QUOTE(yu_wang @ Apr 7 2008, 10:37 PM)
Whoops. I stand corrected, thanks.  doh.gif
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Maybe they want to drop the name 'Campro' becoz it already have bad reputation.. whistling.gif
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post Apr 7 2008, 10:45 PM

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Then again, Gen-2 CPS engine block still says Campro CPS. I have photographic evidence. whistling.gif
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post Apr 7 2008, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(yu_wang @ Apr 7 2008, 10:45 PM)
Then again, Gen-2 CPS engine block still says Campro CPS. I have photographic evidence.  whistling.gif
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Same with Waja, but Campro is not mention in car registration.. whistling.gif
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post Apr 7 2008, 10:48 PM

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then what is in the registration?

campur?
o maCAMPRO ?
hehe
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post Apr 7 2008, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(RCrex @ Apr 7 2008, 10:48 PM)
then what is in the registration?

campur?
o maCAMPRO ?
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CPS 1.6 only. nod.gif
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post Apr 7 2008, 11:47 PM

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btw, rebore the campro block and fit bigger bore piston to increase the displacement lor....

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