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 ASB loan, worth to get it???

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eastwest
post Feb 2 2017, 10:45 AM

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Currently I have 30k loan.. paid RM 187 monthly including takaful..

I'm considering to
1) take another 20k loan (maybe from cimb with 5% (if available and applicable) and 30 years). installment around RM 110.
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2) contribute RM100 monthly

I'm not too sure which route to follow. Using the calculator in my previous post, for 5 years projection

1) RM19266 (dividend)
2) RM12748 (dividend) + RM100x60=RM6000 (contribution) = RM18748

The difference is not that big... hmm.gif


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post Feb 2 2017, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(MiNoRiT @ Feb 2 2017, 11:09 AM)
1) RM19266 (dividend) + principal repayment = not sure the amount coz no time to calc for you but eventually will be more. So the difference will be significant smile.gif
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But for method 1, I will not contribute the RM100 on my own, just pay Rm110 for installment. So there's no principal repayment, right? confused.gif
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post Feb 2 2017, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(xeda @ Feb 2 2017, 11:20 AM)
When you pay ANY loan installment, part of the amount goes to principal payment, if not how are you going to finish paying your loan?

Imagine ASB loan like a house loan. You took a house loan valued at 20k, at the end of the loan tenure, you get a house valued at 20k, right? Because part of your loan goes to paying the house (principal) value and the interest for the loan.
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QUOTE(buggie @ Feb 2 2017, 11:21 AM)
That's right... the ammortized value you'd get back is about 4k.

So eastwest, it's RM19266 (dividend) + RM4000 (principal repayment) = RM23266

Plus, you're compounding bigger for the 6th year
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Thanks guys notworthy.gif Forgot about the amortized value blush.gif

So the difference will be around Rm5000... biggrin.gif

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post Feb 7 2017, 10:22 AM

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I'm considering to take another asb loan, but which amount not too sure... either 40k or 50k... but with the latest dividend rate for last year, I'm having second thought, whether to take it or not. confused.gif
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post Feb 7 2017, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Feb 7 2017, 10:55 AM)
as long as the dividend is higher than bank rate, just take it lorh
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the rate for new loan is 5% hmm.gif
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post Feb 7 2017, 01:31 PM

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For new loan, I'm thinking to get a 40k/50k loan (5%) with a 5 years takaful, following the compounding dividend route. But this year I'm already 34, meaning next year will be last year for me to get a full 30 years loan. Not sure whether I should get full takaful coverage or only for certain years?
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post Feb 7 2017, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Feb 7 2017, 08:39 PM)
Try to maxout as much as u can. Use the previous dividend to cover up for your new loan if suddenly u r having problem to pay for the installments. Try to hold the loan until the next dividend payout. Then you can decide either to continue or terminate your asb.

About takaful with asb loan its better for u to apply takaful with the 3rd party. U will get more benefit + cheaper. You can apply takaful to cover your loan.

And lastly dont be too analytic. If you think too much it wont give u a better result. Just do it. Like other say as long as the dividend given still relevant stay with asb. No more lock in period so u can exit anytime u want. Dont worry.
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How do you take takaful with 3rd party?
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post Feb 8 2017, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Feb 7 2017, 11:17 PM)
Go etika takaful, or any takaful out there...said u want to apply for takaful this much (same with your loan amount) they will calculate the premium for u and also the installments...usually u can paid one off for 1 year...i once help my client to calculate his takaful (etiqa) for 1 year his loan is 60k (takaful covered 50k) and only need to pay about RM65/year...yet he get many benefit...

You can ask takaful agent what are other benefits if u apply their takaful premium...different takaful have different benefit...Choose which one suit with you and worth your money. Usually apply with etiqa takaful...
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I see.. But more works though.. Anyway, thanks
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post Feb 8 2017, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Feb 8 2017, 09:25 AM)
Maybe more works but at least u get more benefit...

other suggestion, apply loan with 1 or 2 years takaful only. At least till u get your 1st dividend payout. Why? because if anything happen to you, your heir can still get the dividend and principal after the loan terminated. If u apply without insurance for the 1st year there is a risk if anything happen to u early and need to terminate less than 5 month your heir will get nothing. Or apply takaful with the same amount of year you target to terminate your loan. Example target to terminate in 5 years than u apply takaful for 5 years only. Hope this will help u to make the decision.  thumbup.gif
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Applying for 50k with 5 years takaful. I think that should be ok.
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post Feb 23 2017, 02:59 PM

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Usually how long does it take for cimb to disburse the money? If today sign document, before 28 feb can disburse?
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post Feb 23 2017, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Feb 23 2017, 03:22 PM)
nope it takes 3-4 weeks to disburse...
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1 mac is the last day to get the dividend for Mac, right?
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post Mar 14 2017, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Mar 14 2017, 04:08 PM)
Loan facility will always count as commitment. But because its generating dividend every year, many banks count it as source of income. Therefore it can increase your DSR to apply loan moreover you already let it compound for years. Still when you apply for loan and not approve because of your ASB than terminate it and your commitment will gone + your ccris remain virgin 😁. Great right.
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So, it will be our annual income + dividend?
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post Mar 14 2017, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Mar 14 2017, 04:17 PM)
Nett income + dividend
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Annual or net monthly?
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post Mar 14 2017, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Mar 14 2017, 04:19 PM)
Monthly for the income and the total dividend will be calculated in the form of monthly
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So dividend also divide by 12...
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post Mar 24 2017, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Mar 24 2017, 12:16 PM)
As far as i know can but u need to tell the bank.
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Does it count as lump sum payment? is asb loan the same like house loan? interest charges on reducing balance?
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post Mar 31 2017, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Mar 31 2017, 01:02 PM)
Every extra payment u make will carry forward to the next month

For example your loan 1100 and u pay 1300 the 200 will carry forward to the next month (only need to pay 900) It will not reduce your principal like housing loan.

Sorry u dun need to notify the bank. Asb loan use the same effective rate like housing loan but different terms.
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So is the point to do advance payment?
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post Mar 31 2017, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Mar 31 2017, 06:11 PM)
If u r using rolling dividend technique than this is the use of advance payment. It means u can take out ur dividend to pay every month, 3 month, 6 month or 12 month.
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I see... Previously i thought advance payment can reduce the principal
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post May 12 2017, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(HolySatan @ May 11 2017, 08:26 PM)
This is good news.. But this applies to all pnb product or just asb?
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post May 13 2017, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ May 12 2017, 03:28 PM)
Just want to update.

ASB application eligibility had been revised

Before DSR calculate based on this

Below 2000 = 90% dsr
Above 2000 = 95% dsr

new eligibility

Below 3k = 60% dsr
Above 3k = 85% dsr

This mean those with salary below than 3k will be harder to get full loan 200k after this. My advice if u r really interest to apply for ASB loan do it now. Can PM me directly for more info.

All submission need to be clear before 2 JUNE 2017. Thats mean those who are not clear till that date will follow the new requirement.
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Is this for cimb only?
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post May 13 2017, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ May 13 2017, 05:32 PM)
Actually if not mistaken other banks already use this dsr, now cimb follow them too...
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I see.

For cimb asb loan, monthly installment will be autodeduct from saving account or i've to do it manually?

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