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 ASB loan, worth to get it???

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soulmixx
post Dec 15 2015, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 12 2015, 03:13 PM)
banks gonna stop asb loans & would focus on asb2 loans next year onwards.. So now your last chance to get asb loans!
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what is the different between asb loan and asb2 loan??
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post Dec 15 2015, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(soulmixx @ Dec 15 2015, 08:43 PM)
what is the different between asb loan and asb2 loan??
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what I know the % rate is higher for asb2 compare with asb blush.gif
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post Dec 16 2015, 03:09 PM

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I have a RM50k loan. Thinking of getting another RM50k. But I wonder if it's possible to 'upgrade' the loan? I mean, part of your monthly payment is for insurance or something right, so no sense to pay double. Thoughts?


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post Dec 19 2015, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(sense_less143 @ Dec 16 2015, 03:09 PM)
I have a RM50k loan. Thinking of getting another RM50k. But I wonder if it's possible to 'upgrade' the loan? I mean, part of your monthly payment is for insurance or something right, so no sense to pay double. Thoughts?
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I dont think that's possible. When you get the first 50k loan, your insurance is for that 50k. Getting another 50k will require another insurance for that 50k.

By the way, there are banks that offer ASB loan with no insurance, or at least shorter insurance period (e.g. 5 years), try ask around. Unless they already stop the ASB loan and only sell ASB2 loan.
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post Dec 19 2015, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(exitsortie @ Dec 19 2015, 01:20 AM)
I dont think that's possible. When you get the first 50k loan, your insurance is for that 50k. Getting another 50k will require another insurance for that 50k.

By the way, there are banks that offer ASB loan with no insurance, or at least shorter insurance period (e.g. 5 years), try ask around. Unless they already stop the ASB loan and only sell ASB2 loan.
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What you said made sense, thanks.

Speaking of insurance, is it even a necessity to get insurance? I went under Maybank and was told it was mandatory. I didn't know other banks offer without insurance.
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post Dec 19 2015, 06:40 PM

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Which bank offer asb loans without insurance thingy?
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post Dec 20 2015, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(sense_less143 @ Dec 19 2015, 06:10 PM)
What you said made sense, thanks.

Speaking of insurance, is it even a necessity to get insurance? I went under Maybank and was told it was mandatory. I didn't know other banks offer without insurance.
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Think about it, if you borrow 100k today for 30 years, and some time during the tenure you suffer from death/TPD and defaulted on your loan, the bank could easily resell the certificate for 100k to PNB, and even return you some of the excess money.

The reasons why some banks require mandatory loan is because either:
- they get commissions out of selling the insurance AND
- assuming the borrower suffer from death/TPD some time during the tenure and defaulted, it's true the bank can resell the certificate and get back their money, but the loan will still be considered as a non-performing loan because the best case scenario for the banks is for you to continue paying for 30 years, thus they get to collect maximum amount of interest.

I applied for CIMB LASB in june and was allowed to take a 5-year insurance, you might want to check with them. YMMV though.
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post Dec 20 2015, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(exitsortie @ Dec 20 2015, 12:47 AM)
Think about it, if you borrow 100k today for 30 years, and some time during the tenure you suffer from death/TPD and defaulted on your loan, the bank could easily resell the certificate for 100k to PNB, and even return you some of the excess money.

The reasons why some banks require mandatory loan is because either:
- they get commissions out of selling the insurance AND
- assuming the borrower suffer from death/TPD some time during the tenure and defaulted, it's true the bank can resell the certificate and get back their money, but the loan will still be considered as a non-performing loan because the best case scenario for the banks is for you to continue paying for 30 years, thus they get to collect maximum amount of interest.

I applied for CIMB LASB in june and was allowed to take a 5-year insurance, you might want to check with them. YMMV though.
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Ahaha I had to google YMMV to find out what that meant tongue.gif

Re: was allowed to take 5-year insurance. Were there negotiations involved? To me this sentence implied that the bank begrudgingly allowed you to take 5 year instead of full term.


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post Dec 21 2015, 01:46 AM

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CIMB ASB interest 5.0 if got offer letter / family link 30yrs.. optional insurance..
affinbank pon macam okay.. 5.2 rate..

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post Dec 21 2015, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(sense_less143 @ Dec 20 2015, 10:38 AM)
Ahaha I had to google YMMV to find out what that meant tongue.gif

Re: was allowed to take 5-year insurance. Were there negotiations involved? To me this sentence implied that the bank begrudgingly allowed you to take 5 year instead of full term.
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Yeah at first the loan officer said a full-term insurance is required, then i mentioned about people who were able to get shorter insurance from CIMB. A few hours later the loan officer called back and said it's ok to take 5-year insurance. So i guess we can say they begrudgingly allowed me to take shorter insurance.

One thing to remember, insurance is not necessarily a bad thing. It's definitely a good thing if you suffer death/TPD during the tenure. But I applied for the ASB loan with the aim to maximize my capital, not protection. I do plan to terminate before the 30-year term is up which means i dont need a full insurance, but even if i ended up not terminating and suffer death/TPD during my unprotected years, i'm fine with it. If my family cant pay for it, i'll just terminate the loan and the bank can resell the cert. In short, i wanted short-medium term profit against long-term protection.
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post Dec 21 2015, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(HolySatan @ Dec 21 2015, 01:46 AM)
CIMB ASB interest 5.0 if got offer letter / family link 30yrs.. optional insurance..
affinbank pon macam okay.. 5.2 rate..
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I'm interested in that CIMB 5%/30years/optional insurance plan. What is the offer letter/family link referring to?
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post Dec 21 2015, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 19 2015, 06:40 PM)
Which bank offer asb loans without insurance thingy?
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affin bank and cimb-i offers lasb without insurance package
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post Dec 21 2015, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(exitsortie @ Dec 21 2015, 09:27 AM)
I'm interested in that CIMB 5%/30years/optional insurance plan. What is the offer letter/family link referring to?
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if refinance to CIMB from another bank.. offer letter ASB from old loan..
family link tak tau hmm.gif hmm.gif

ask here..
https://www.facebook.com/asbloanterbaik
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/261420023932547/



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post Dec 21 2015, 11:49 PM

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so it's confirm there's no ASB loans next year?

or there's some last minutes "extension" given hmm.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 21 2015, 11:49 PM)
so it's confirm there's no ASB loans next year?

or there's some last minutes "extension" given  hmm.gif
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Extension or better dun happen please biggrin.gif
nexona88
post Dec 22 2015, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Dec 22 2015, 10:03 AM)
Extension or better dun happen please biggrin.gif
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well everyone it to be as usual, but hey asnb need to get asb2 sales up too right tongue.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 22 2015, 12:24 PM)
well everyone it to be as usual, but hey asnb need to get asb2 sales up too right  tongue.gif
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Already quite fast asb2 loan haha
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post Dec 22 2015, 03:31 PM

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bila nak announce dividen this year..
duit dah habis bayar loan ASB & ASB2..
next year rolling dividen jer..
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post Dec 22 2015, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(HolySatan @ Dec 22 2015, 03:31 PM)
bila nak announce dividen this year..
duit dah habis bayar loan ASB & ASB2..
next year rolling dividen jer..
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dengar info kata minggu depan Selasa atau Rabu hmm.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 22 2015, 04:02 PM)
dengar info kata minggu depan Selasa atau Rabu  hmm.gif
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lame betul... last year 18 dec ..

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