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post May 30 2008, 09:57 PM

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Back 28/5/2008

Wide grip suppinated pulldowns
Warm up
110lbs x 12
130lbs x 10

Work sets
190lbs x 9
190lbs x 8
170lbs x 7
150lbs x 8

Close grip cable rows
120lbs x 11
130lbs x 10
130lbs x 10
130lbs x 10
100lbs x 15

Machine medium grip rows
100lbs x 11
110lbs x 10
110lbs x 10
100lbs x 11
100lbs x 11

Comments:-
Still regaining neural efficiency. No PRs attempted yet.
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post May 30 2008, 10:03 PM

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Chest 30/5/2008

Warm up
45lbs x 12
50lbs x 10

Work sets
Incline dumbell press (per hand)
90lbs x 10
100lbs x 9
80lbs x 7
70lbs x 8

Flat dumbell bench press (per hand)
60lbs x 12
70lbs x 10
60lbs x 9
60lbs x 9

Bodyweight dips
BW x 12
BW x 10
BW x 9
BW x 8

Cable crossovers
50lbs x 15
60lbs x 12
50lbs x 13
50lbs x 13

Comments:-
Neural efficiency almost fully regained. Watch me do the 110's again next rotation. Vids will be taken. =)

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post May 31 2008, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ May 30 2008, 11:18 PM)
Dark, while doing dips, how would you target the tension? I notice that when i dip there is a very strong tension on the upper mid chest.
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If i'm focusing on my triceps, i stay upright. If I want to hit my chest, i lean forward.
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post Jun 1 2008, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Disciple @ Jun 1 2008, 07:36 AM)
Hello Darkie, i was wondering what exercises that i can do for my forearms...i have weak forearms and its affecting my other exercises like the bench press, dumbell press and even the EZ bar curls....

I currently finished HST Cycle 2 and in that cycle i was rotating between EZ bar curls and dumbell curls, would it be wise if i substitute the EZ bar curls with some wrist curls in the next cycle?
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Work your forearms on arm day. Reverse curls and some wrist curls. You're lucky you still have the potential for strong forearms. I fractured both of my wrists during a rollerblading incident many years ago. My wrists will never be up to full strength.

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post Jun 1 2008, 07:21 PM

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Arms 1/6/2008

Warm up
Hammer chins
BW x 9
BW x 9

Dips
BW x 9
BW x 9

Dumbell curls
45lbs x 8
50lbs x 7
45lbs x 8
40lbs x 8

Supersetted with:-
Weighted dips
BW + 45lbs x 11
BW + 70lbs x 11
BW + 80lbs x 10
BW + 95lbs x 10

Concentration curls (drop sets)
35lbs x 7, 30lbs x 7, 25lbs x 4
30lbs x 7, 25lbs x 7, 20lbs x 4
25lbs x 7, 20lbs x 7, 15lbs x 4
25lbs x 7, 20lbs x 7, 15lbs x 4

Supersetted with:-
One arm db overhead extensions (per hand)
35lbs x 10
35lbs x 10
30lbs x 12
30lbs x 12

Hammer curls
20lbs x 12
20lbs x 10
20lbs x 10
20lbs x 10

Supersetted with:-
Tricep rope extensions
100lbs x 10
100lbs x 10
90lbs x 10
80lbs x 15

Comments:-
None. Just new PRs on dips. Drop sets on conc curls gave me a new kind of pump. Tried them out after watching Milos Sarcev's vid on bicep training.

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post Jun 1 2008, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(JIB-89 @ Jun 1 2008, 07:31 PM)
got vid??? Btw is it a big deal to lock out on dips?
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I thought i already took a vid of me dipping 90lbs? Extra 10lbs isn't much of a difference. Lemme get to around 120lbs dips then i'll take another vid. =) And yeah, i lock out very briefly at the top. Max contraction.
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post Jun 1 2008, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroLeingod @ Jun 1 2008, 11:06 PM)
Hi darklight79,
sry if i miss something... but
can you elaborate your abs exercise?
please and thank you
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When you want abs to show, it's not the exercises which matter but the amount of cardio you do and your diet which influences their visibility. That said, if a person has a naturally wide waist, i would advise him from doing any weighted abdominal work as doing so would cause the midsection to look thicker which is not pleasing in an aesthetic way.


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post Jun 3 2008, 08:43 PM

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Back (Thickness oriented) 3/6/2008

Barbell rows
Warm up
Bar x 12
135lbs x 12

Work sets
205lbs x 10
205lbs x 10
185lbs x 10
185lbs x 9
135lbs x 12

Cable rows
110lbs x 10
100lbs x 11
100lbs x 11
100lbs x 11
100lbs x 11

Hammer grip pulldowns
100lbs x 10
100lbs x 10
100lbs x 10
100lbs x 10

Dumbell shrugs (per hand)
90lbs x 15
90lbs x 15
90lbs x 15
90lbs x 12

Comments:-
I upped the ante on intensity. All sets were done within 30 - 45 seconds. My training partner (who benches 405lbs for reps) pushed me to the limit, allowing me to rest only when he was working in with me during his sets. That ba$tard. tongue.gif

Strength levels pretty good despite the fact that it's still a lil' fresh after my 2 weeks layoff and it's been a month since I've done barbell rows. Motivation levels are strong and steady. That's it folks.


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post Jun 4 2008, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(kege @ Jun 4 2008, 12:34 AM)
hey dark, do you think you could post a video of your barbell rows the next time around? thanks biggrin.gif
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Yeah sure.
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post Jun 4 2008, 07:48 PM

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Legs 4/6/2008

Rotation Day 10

Squats
Warm up
135lbs x 12
225lbs x 8

Work sets
315lbs x 6
325lbs x 6
335lbs x 5
225lbs x 13

Leg curls
5 plates x 11
5 plates x 11
5 plates x 11
4 plates x 13

Leg extensions
180lbs x 15
195lbs x 13
210lbs x 12
225lbs x 11

Standing calf raises (per leg)
BW + 20lbs x 23
BW + 30lbs x 20
BW + 30lbs x 20
BW + 20lbs x 20

Comments:-
Mmmm... good. I needed 2 spotters for squats. tongue.gif Chest tomorrow.



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post Jun 5 2008, 08:44 PM

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Chest/Shoulders 5/6/2008

Rotation Day 11

Incline dumbell bench (per hand)
Warm up
45lbs x 12
50lbs x 12

Work sets
90lbs x 10
100lbs x 8
90lbs x 7
80lbs x 5

Flat dumbell bench
60lbs x 12
70lbs x 10
70lbs x 8
60lbs x 10

BW Dips
BW x 12
BW x 12
BW x 12

Cable crossovers
60lbs x 12
60lbs x 12
50lbs x 13

Dumbell lateral raises
35lbs x 10
30lbs x 10

Seated dumbell laterals
25lbs x 12
20lbs x 12



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post Jun 6 2008, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(kege @ Jun 6 2008, 12:24 AM)
how come you reduce your volume by so much? and also how come u flat bench so much less than your incline? going for higher reps?
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I need a change. Besides overall volume is the key here, not total number of sets. Notice how im beginning to go for straight sets. If in one workout I do 90lbs x 10, then 80lbs x 10, it would be (90lbs x 10) + (80lbs x 10), the total poundage would be 1700lbs.
Then my next progressive workout, I do (100lbs x 10), then (90lbs x 10), that would be 1900lbs total. Obviously i don't need that many burn sets later. But my RM maxes would still be around 75% to 80% as to still induce hypertrophy. I'm lazy to calculate the total poundages of all my sets here but you get the idea. If i get stronger i obvious would have to reduce the volume slightly to compensate, then work my way up to the same number of sets of reps again.
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QUOTE(sanesaint @ Jun 6 2008, 06:37 AM)
hey i just wanna ask, is WPI better in terms of cost and benefit compared to a WPC or should I just stick with a WPC for post-workout?
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I thought most powders come in both WPI and WPC content, just that the ratio differs? I wouldn't sweat it though, protein is protein and unless we're preparing for IFBB competitions, it wouldn't be really an issue. =)

QUOTE(shanecross @ Jun 6 2008, 09:22 AM)
How are ya dark?

See, I have this silly issue, My triceps tend to get messed up during my push routine so this basically affects my dips. I have to actually do my dips first and then go for the shoulder press and db chest press. I am wondering, how do you train to keep the triceps steady even after chest work. Oh yes another one is, my wrist tend to hurt when I curl, does it mean that my forearms are weak?
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Imo, the push/pull/legs routine may not be for everyone. It depends on your goals and muscular endurance. Hola Bola did it for a while but he later switched to a routine where he gave arms its own separate day. Some people work shoulders together with arms. Either you eliminate dips from your workouts or try giving arms a separate day if their your priority.

Lol.... my wrists hurt after EZ and straight bar curls too. That's why i dropped them for a while and switched to db curls and preachers. You can try that.
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Jun 6 2008, 12:20 PM)
I paused and started thinking, its bloody true, I probably suffered some endurance drop. I am actually looking at the rotations. Thanks, been alot of help
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Bob Chic always believed in working each bodypart fresh. I feel the same way too. The only time i do 2 push parts in a day are chest and shoulders because i only do lateral raises for my delts anyway. =)

So what're your plans?
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Jun 6 2008, 04:10 PM)
I am currently looking into a 8 day rotation. ( credits to Hola Bola from bb.com )

Workouts will be modded to suit the gym

It has a much more friendly approach especially on hitting the body parts. Planning to start of on Monday. I am also having my interns but there is no reason no neglect working out.

Oh yes, when its incline db press, how many degrees do you go up? 45?

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Anything from 35 to 65 degrees hit the chest. That's my range too. The rotation looks good.
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jun 6 2008, 06:50 PM)
6 days a week training. hooo.. not easy to put into the timetable.
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It's the same as mine. I do 3 days on, 1 off.
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Arms 7/6/2008

Rotation Day 1

Warm up
Chin ups
BW x 9
BW x 9

Dips
BW x 9
BW x 9

Barbell curls
135lbs x 8 (Light weight babyyyyyy)
135lbs x 8
135lbs x 5

115lbs x 9

Supersetted with:-
Weighted dips
BW + 45lbs x 11
BW + 70lbs x 10
BW + 80lbs x 10
BW + 100lbs x 8

Concentration curls Milos Sarev's style
35lbs x 7, 30lbs x 7, 25lbs x 4
35lbs x 7, 25lbs x 6, 20lbs x 4
30lbs x 7, 20lbs x 6, 15lbs x 4

Supersetted with:-
Tricep overhead extensions
70lbs x 10
80lbs x 9
80lbs x 8

Prone curls Charles Glass' style
5 plates x 12
4 plates x 11
4 plates x 12

Supersetted with:-
Tricep rope extensions
80lbs x 10
70lbs x 10
70lbs x 10

Comments:-
Amazing pump after a change of routine. Watching both Charles Glass and Milos Sarcev's vids for arm training have definitely helped my arm workout.

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jun 8 2008, 03:12 AM)
im easily bored everytime of the day
so i go like 5-7 days a week...
usually 4 days on 1 day off
the last day of the week is the less packed training

darkie, then they say 8 hours of sleep is it necessary for it to be 10-6 or 12-8?
i mean, i sleep at 3 or 4 and wake up at 11 or 12
its the same right?
or not?
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Well, I had a hard night out. I'm still awake. Probably gonna wait till 7am to drink my protein shake and sleep till 3pm. That's 8 hours. Does that answer your question? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(4Rings @ Jun 8 2008, 07:21 AM)
Wow! you got strong arms. I could only bb curl 90lbs at my best. I got very weak biceps.
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Well buddy, even if you may not be able to curl as much as me, I'm very sure you have much better genetics than me for biceps. The peaks for my bi's seriously suck. I inherited good triceps from my mom though. Hers show even when she's not flexing. My dad however had flat biceps.
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QUOTE(kege @ Jun 7 2008, 11:31 PM)
are the videos online? could you post the link pls smile.gif

is the charles glass video the one titled "get cut with glass" with adam kirby?
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Sorry, I didn't see your post earlier.

Milos Sarcev's bicep workout. Here, for concentration curls he suggests taking a poundage where you can hit 5-7 reps with good form, then drop weight and curl out another 5-7, then drop weight and squeeze out just a few more with emphasis at squeezing the bicep at the top of the movement:-
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/fitshow32.htm


Charles Glass' upper arm workout. Here for machine preacher and machine prone curls, Glass suggests not sitting at the machine but standing over it and leaning forward so that you don't tend to use your body and jerk back the weight.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/glasscut5.htm

QUOTE(gleko @ Jun 8 2008, 02:32 PM)
Thats because for the average trainee, (like most of the rest of us) it is way too much work. darklight is obviously not as hard a gainer as the average Joe, which puts him in about the top ten percent of trainees, if I did that much work I would have to sleep all day to recover. rclxub.gif
My whole workout is often no longer than 15-20 mins and I get great results, for an old bloke that is laugh.gif


Dead right, most people as long as they deadlift and squat would never need to do ab work except perhaps just before a comp, and some not even then.  Abs are like any other muscle group and if you train them they get bigger which then gives you a bigger waist.  Lose tummy fat, see abs.  When you squat or deadlift heavy your abs work very very hard, no need to add anything else.
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Hi. You're new here. Welcome to the boards and to my journal. Actually gleko, i am quite a pure hardgainer. I was 55 kilos before i started working out, I possess a very small bone structure (evident from my very tiny wrists) and if i don't eat properly for a few days, I tend to shrink. I just found that high volume training works very well for me.

Imo, with proper nutrition and good rest, it's very hard to overtrain. What's your workout like? 15-20 mins seems pretty fast but i know some trainees who can do quite a lot during that short period.

QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jun 8 2008, 05:22 PM)
damn right it has to be genetics
in my family, no one...i repeat that no one had ever got ripped/muscular in their whole life before
so im trying and hope to god will never retire...no matter the outcome
haha
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Sadly, to also be an elite bodybuilder, it's 97% genetics and 3% everything else. There's a saying that we can't make a pitbull out of a chihuahua. A muscular one yes, but still a chihuahua. Which is why i would never compete despite being asked by many people to.




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