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post Jan 30 2009, 01:56 AM

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Shoulders 30 January 2008

Dumbell shoulder press
Warm up
30lbs x 12
35lbs x 12

Work sets
70lbs x 12
80lbs x 8
70lbs x 9
60lbs x 9

Barbell front raises
75lbs x 10
75lbs x 10
50lbs x 10

Lateral raises

20lbs x 10
20lbs x 10
15lbs x 10
10lbs x 12 x 7

Rear delt raises
15lbs x 10 x 3
10lbs x 12 x 5
5lbs x 12 x 2
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post Jan 30 2009, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(bata @ Jan 30 2009, 02:11 AM)
holy crapppp..i didnt know too  blink.gif
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Lol, it's been a while. Old news bro.

QUOTE(mofonyx @ Jan 30 2009, 12:47 PM)
I'm terribly heartbroken that darklight is off the market.
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post Feb 1 2009, 03:28 PM

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Arms 6 February 2009

Preacher curls
85lbs x 8
85lbs x 10
75lbs x 11

Overhead dumbell triceps extensions
90lbs x 12
90lbs x 12
80lbs x 10

Concentration curls
30lbs x 8
25lbs x 10
25lbs x 10

French presses
85lbs x 10
80lbs x 10
75lbs x 10

EZ barbell curls (30 secs rest between sets)
50lbs x 10 x 5
40lbs x 10 x 2

Tricep pressdowns (30 secs rest)
70lbs x 10 x 5
50lbs x 10 x 2


Added on February 4, 2009, 1:02 pmChest 2/2/2009
High Incline Dumbell Press
Warm up
40lbs x 12
45lbs x 12

Work sets
95lbs x 9
95lbs x 9
95lbs x 6 drop set 70lbs x 4

Flat dumbell bench
80lbs x 9
80lbs x 9
70lbs x 9

Decline barbell bench
135lbs x 12
155lbs x 12
185lbs x 12

Cable crossovers
50lbs x 12 x 2
40lbs x 12 x 5

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post Feb 4 2009, 01:10 PM

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Back 3/2/2009
Barbell rows
Warm up
115lbs x 12
115lbs x 10

Work sets
205lbs x 10
205lbs x 10
185lbs x 12

Wide grip lat pulldowns
140lbs x 10
140lbs x 6 drop set 120lbs x 4
130lbs x 10

Cable rows
140lbs x 10
140lbs x 10
130lbs x 10

Machine hammer rows
140lbs x 10
140lbs x 10
120lbs x 12

Cable pullovers
70lbs x 10 x 7

Shrugs
295lbs x 12
295lbs x 12
295lbs x 12
295lbs x 10

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post Feb 5 2009, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Feb 4 2009, 10:41 PM)
How are your barbell rows?

Like Pendlay says it or no deloading in between?

A video would also be awesome.
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I once showed Pendlay rows to Terry and he said they were useless. Deloading means no time under tension means the targeted muscles aren't put under continuous stress. My barbell rows are the classic type which bodybuilders use and my back has improved a lot. A vid next week then.

QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Feb 5 2009, 12:25 AM)
Hey darklight... been doing hvt for the 3rd week now... not too sure how is my progress going but i feel that i got weaker,

Is it usual to feel that the same 25lbs dumbbells are dead heavy on this week compared to last week?

Would really appreciate if you could pop by my training log [  http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/805200  ]  to give comments...

Thank you.
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post Feb 5 2009, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Feb 5 2009, 09:55 AM)
Which one do you reckon is more difficult? The pendlay is supposed to be better for your back.

I've seen dudes row 100kg with a solid back so I may be wrong.
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Lol, definitely conventional barbell rows are more difficult. When you deloaed you get rest time. I ain't got no back problems so far.
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post Feb 6 2009, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Feb 6 2009, 08:40 AM)
I tried conventional rows today, I'm still evaluating it and I actually kinda like it.

Not questioning Terry's experience, but apparently the Pendlay style of rowing activates the lats more than bent over rows.

I'm sure you already have this link, but I'll link you anyway
http://stronglifts.com/how-to-perform-the-...rect-technique/
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Well think about it. Name me any professional bodybuilder who does Pendlay rows first. Go to the IFBB section at bb.com and ask any pro in his thread if he does Pendlay over conventional barbell rows. Seen any vids of Dorian Yates or Ronnie or Jay Cutler doing Pendlays? Need i say more? =P

QUOTE(anonymousover9000 @ Feb 6 2009, 11:07 AM)
dude, this workouts are for probably maintaining and toning.
but wwat exercise do you do get big sizes all over your body?
rippotoe?
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Sorry, wrong mate. I have a training partner who started based on this program and he has already put on 20 pounds of lean mass and deadlifting around 350lbs. He never did Rippetoe, just did what i did.

QUOTE(shanecross @ Feb 6 2009, 11:59 AM)
Hey darklight, HVT is looking good on ya, by the way, just a quick one, how do you go on your deloading ?
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I don't. I take a break when I feel I need it. Do you know what separates pro bodybuilders from other struggling trainees? Let's just put steroids and superior geneticsout of the equation first. The advantage is that they know how to listen to their body. Ask yourself, why Dorian Yates or Wong Hong don't do the conventional barbell squat? Instead they do the Smith and hack squats and leg presses. And why Ronnie doesn't do that but does the opposite? Because they figured out what works for them.

Rippetoe and 5 x 5 are templates. They are a guide, not something you can do forever. The best bodybuilders never follow a fixed, rigid, pen and paper program. They go by instinct and feel. It's really that simple.

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post Feb 6 2009, 01:17 PM

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Legs Wednesday 4/2/2009

Squats
Warm up
135lbs x 12
155lbs x 12

Work sets
255lbs x 12
255lbs x 12
255lbs x 12

Leg press
425lbs x 12
425lbs x 10
375lbs x 10

Leg extensions
240lbs x 12
240lbs x 12
225lbs x 12

Leg curls
6 plates x 12
6 plates x 10
6 plates x 10

Leg extensions
205lbs x 10 x 5
190lbs x 10 x 2

One legged calf raises
BW + 50lbs x 12 x 3

Calf presses
Full weight stack x 12 x 7

Comments:-
Surprising. I skipped legs for almost a month and strength levels were still good. I didn't try to make PR's in squats, just cruised through with a light weight to get back into the groove.
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post Feb 6 2009, 01:24 PM

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Shoulders Thursday 5/2/2009

Dumbell shoulder presses
Warm up
40lbs x 12
40lbs x 12

Work sets
80lbs x 9
70lbs x 10
80lbs x 6 drop set 50lbs x 5
70lbs x 7 drop set 50lbs x 4


Barbell front raises
75lbs x 10
75lbs x 10
75lbs x 12

Lateral raises
20lbs x 12
20lbs x 12
20lbs x 12
15lbs x 10 x 7

Rear lateral raises
20lbs x 12 x 3
10lbs x 12 x 7


Comments:-
At this rate I'll be dumbell pressing the 90 pounders for shoulders soon. Then i'll take a vid. =)

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post Feb 9 2009, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Feb 8 2009, 07:19 PM)
routine:

-Flat db bench press
-Declined db bench press(plan to change to machine based)
-Inclined barbell bench press
-Db flyes

Sample of daily diet (eg school day):
7am: 1 scoop whey + oats(just enough to sustain 1hr)
8am: chicken rice / mee hoon + 2 eggs depending on the availability
11am: Choc milk
12pm: rice + chicken + vege + egg
3pm: sweetie potato bread
7pm: grilled chicken + rice <--pre workout
9pm: workout
11:00pm: 2 scoop whey + oats <-- post workout
1am: sleep


But the schedule above isn't really fixed, depending on my class time. About the 7am and 8am gap, I would be driving to uni (takes around 1 hr drive) and then immediately search for food when arrived lol.
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Here's a question. How long does whey last in your system, especially when it's the last source of protein of the day you're consuming before you sleep? Do you see the nutritional mistake there mate?
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post Feb 10 2009, 03:35 AM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Feb 9 2009, 04:13 PM)
Aikz...i guess not long, perhaps within an hour? Should i eat some solid food as protein source too? Or perhaps a cup of milk ...? Or maybe sleep earlier? Because at such late night, I cant find any solid food to consume unless there is leftovers :/
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You need to understand that whey lasts in your system only 1.5 - 2 hours. And you're sleeping for 8 hours or so. That means after the whey wears off, it's 6 hours of catabolism. No wonder you're losing muscle. How about a meal of chicken and rice before you sleep? Or half a litre of milk with a scoop of peanut butter. Or milk with whey?
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post Feb 17 2009, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Feb 10 2009, 06:39 AM)
Yikes... i guess i'll have to go with a meal of chicken and rice(would either buy back or cook more during dinner), perhaps tuna and bread or maybe the existing oats with a little bit more + some meat if that is good too. How much serving are we considering here? I don't dare to eat so much esp when its getting late..scared of gaining fats. What about on days where I don't go to workout? Do the same too?

Really sorry to bother you with so much questions  sweat.gif
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You still need some protein before you sleep. Doesn't matter on workout or non workout days. And use your judgment as to how much. Whey alone won't cut it for prebedtime.
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post Feb 17 2009, 09:27 PM

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Chest 16/2/2009

Incline dumbell press
100lbs x 10
100lbs x 9
70lbs x 10

Flat dumbell press
70lbs x 9
70lbs x 8
60lbs x 9

Decline dumbell bench press

200lbs x 8
185lbs x 12
185lbs x 9

Cable crossovers
40lbs x 12 x 6
30lbsx 12

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QUOTE(dksh1892 @ Feb 17 2009, 10:55 PM)
is it true that when we mix whey protein with milk it will then make the whey protein turn into a slow releasing protein base? hmm...

and one thing DL.. i saw ur machine rowing vid on utube.. must we keep our body 90 degrees to the ground or is it ok to use our body to pull the weight back alil? and also...saw ur bicep curls vid... saw that u used a lil of momentum to help u there... i always think that it is ok to help with a lil of momentum esp when it is heavy weights we're talking bout as it is all bout conditioning the muscles to be able to accpet such weight next time... but alot of ppl say it is wrong... well.... i noticed my strength in doing bicep curls increase after cheating a lil with a slight momentum push to complete the sets... judged by doin the preacher curls.. hmmm.. thanks DL! =)

btw...where u work out at? FF? CF?? somewhere else? XD
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When a beginner utilizing light poundages, use absolutely strict form. When advanced, use fairly strict form. Think about it, there's no way i can bicep curl 60 kilograms without swaying my body. And about the milk, there's actually conflicting studies. Chocolate milk is said to be extremely anabolic postworkout when mixed with whey as it gets the anabolic cascade working. So i'm neutral on both stances.

I train at Malacca.

QUOTE(registryeditor @ Feb 17 2009, 11:47 PM)
yo darkie, its me. i was wondering if you could enlighten me on d abs workout. bcos, im just scared if my abs wouldnt be cut enough unlike other parts prior to competition. do i superset or just stick to a super high rep till failure and continue to another exercise.
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Hey bro. When people prepare for a comp, they don't try to make any PR's because that's not gonna happen with the caloric reduction. They go for higher reps and lighter weight, the aim is to volumize the muscle. But for a pre comp, Terry is definitely the master here, not me. He can definitely give you better advice.

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post Feb 20 2009, 02:55 AM

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Back 18/2/2009

Barbell rows
Warm up
115lbs x 12
135lbs x 10

Work sets
225lbs x 10
225lbs x 9
205lbs x 9

Cable rows
160lbs x 10
140lbs x 10
140lbs x 10

Hammer grip pulldowns

110lbs x 10
110lbs x 9
100lbs x 9

Machine rows
160lbs x 8
140lbs x 9
120lbs x 10

Cable pullovers
70lbs x 10 x 5
60lbs x 12 x 2

Barbell shrugs
295lbs x 12
295lbs x 10
225lbs x 12


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Shoulders 20/2/2009

Dumbell shoulder press
Warm up
35lbs x 12
35lbs x 10

Work sets
80lbs x 10
70lbs x 10
70lbs x 9
50lbs x 12

Front barbell raises
65lbs x 10
65lbs x 10
45lbs x 10

Dumbell lateral raises
15lbs x 10 x 3
10lbs x 12 x 7

Rear lateral raises
20lbs x 10 x 3
10lbs x 12 x 7

Comments:-
Lots of pump sets today. Joints showing wear and tear. Need to go on a light phase for a few weeks or maybe a layoff.

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Feb 21 2009, 12:29 PM)
yo dark! ... i have a feeling my chest is still shrinking even though im with hvt now doh.gif  ...im one of those with moobs and its getting more obvious now when i wear any t-shirts..previously it wasnt that obvious(previously with rippetoe, and before rippetoe was on some random 3 times a week full body workout)... what should i do?  :/  :/  :/
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Lol. You ain't eating enough buddy. Both my partners are going crazy with chest growth. And it takes time. You just modified your diet. Don' tell me you expect instant gains. doh.gif
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Feb 22 2009, 01:02 PM)
give it a few months dude
make realistic goals not idealistic
get to know your body first before making goals u dont think u cant achieve
else you'll be dejected

btw darkie, one quick question
i like to change my routines every other week
like if week 1, my back routine is lat pulldowns (front), lat pulldowns (back), hammer grip pulldowns, cable rows, bb rows and lastly t-bar rows
and week 2 i terbalikkan the routine like start with barbell rows, t-bar rows, then go the machines etc....and then week 3 start again with week 1's, will it affect growth?
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It's fine. I do that too, unless you want to specifically gain strength in a particular lift, then stick with the same order or start with that exercise first.

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QUOTE(sprix @ Feb 23 2009, 12:47 PM)
bro.. just wanna ask ur opinion..

starting from today, im switching my programme from full body to HVT, the problem is... i really hate when it come to legs day.. huhu.. squats.. calf raises.. yucks.. it's a bore day to me.. at the same time, I jog everyday, can I skip my legs day and doing something else?

One more thing, any other idea to do preacher curl without using the bench, coz im workout-ing at home.. i do have a simple tools like barbell, and dumbell...

any idea?

ps:i edi asked the same quest at the BB thread, but no answer.. huhu..  doh.gif
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Sure you can skip legs, if you want to look like a total Johnny Bravo retard and let all the girls laugh at your skinny legs. You think women are blind? They can see skinny legs even through thick baggy pants.
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Feb 28 2009, 03:16 AM)
well since dark belum reply let me help
its been 5 weeks dude
wait la...
its not a bout routine that much

u jaga diet?
if u relied too much on whey/true mass/serious mass and all those supps, then yeah, no gains

water intake? at least 3l per day

routine?
up to u but do the basics only la wei

wait about 3-4 months then come back and see ur chest
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You keep expecting magic! sleep.gif I don't know what else to say. If you ask these kind of questions in bb.com you'll get laughed at. How can you expect instant results in such a short time??
Chest routine:-
Incline, Flat, Decline/Machine
Then some sort of isolation, flyes or cable crossovers, 3 sets each. Don't overdo it. More isn't better.

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